Scum Thread In the secret meeting place.

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Half of Maol's case on ATP was him being teamed with Sneeks. If she's the vote, when she flips town the case looks weaker
 
At this point I'm really hoping an SK exists to lower town's numbers. I'm thinking we leave Maol so he can lead them to Sneeks if she lives and kill someone middle of the road.
 

Hawthorn

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RIP ATP. It was an honor to be on a team with you for this one day. Your sacrifice won’t be in vain.
 

Hawthorn

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Maol clearly said that he thinks ATP is teamed with Sneeks not me. Sneeks is the clear second vote leader. I think the plan is we kill Maol (since sooner or later he will be on to us) and subtly push that he was killed b/c he was about to go after saw.

second option is to kill Salva, who I think may be a cop
 

Hawthorn

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Maybe worth using the strong kill tonight? And IMO, of Geno's powers, track could be good tonight. Not sure who.
 

Hawthorn

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How town will look soon:

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I'm more in favor of someone like Nat or Terra for a kill but if you insist on Maol then Maol it is. Strong kill if so, then Fate can rb Salva and I can track or I can do the kill since I can't be tracked.
 

Hawthorn

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Not insisting — that’s what I think, but I want us to have a consensus & I trust you. Tell me why you think nat or terra over maol? I think both are good choices, the only concern I have re terra is that a miller who stays alive too long is a good push for a mis vote.
I'm more in favor of someone like Nat or Terra for a kill but if you insist on Maol then Maol it is. Strong kill if so, then Fate can rb Salva and I can track or I can do the kill since I can't be tracked.
 
Not insisting — that’s what I think, but I want us to have a consensus & I trust you. Tell me why you think nat or terra over maol? I think both are good choices, the only concern I have re terra is that a miller who stays alive too long is a good push for a mis vote.
I think Maol is more useful to us alive right now, when he fixes his mind on something then it's over, you remember how he was in horror movie mafia, he thought I was scum and nobody changed his mind. He will lead town to a Sneeks lynch, while we kill someone who's good and unlikely to be protected.
 

Hawthorn

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I think Maol is more useful to us alive right now, when he fixes his mind on something then it's over, you remember how he was in horror movie mafia, he thought I was scum and nobody changed his mind. He will lead town to a Sneeks lynch, while we kill someone who's good and unlikely to be protected.
OK, this makes sense to me. My only concern is that Maol sometimes lies about his reads in order to see people's reactions. Could be he intends to go after me today, or in another direction entirely -- clearly he did suspect Saw, but could go somewhere else after the flip. By killing him we could preserve his reads in amber as they were at the very moment of death. But maybe this is paranoia -- willing to kill elsewhere.

Alright let’s go with geno
Terra is a sweat, I’d go him over nat tbh

However, the problem with Terra, as I said above, is that town eventually turns on a miller. He will be a good potential mis-vote-out. We don't want to kill too many of those.

In addition to Nat, I would throw out Salva (everyone will believe he is town after that claim; I like Fate's plan of blocking him though), or Donnie. Willing to go Nat though.

Also what do we think about the strong kill? I'm usually into using it early.
 
I think Maol was being genuine in his Sawneeks read, I think he's going to push in that direction, ofc if a vig kills her then that plan goes out the window, but precisely the reason I asked him near day end is because I wanted to see where his head was at, and I think he's not going to pursue you right now. As for Terra, this community doesn't usually go after millers, even later in the game, but it's a fair point. Salva I think we're better off roleblocking for now. As for the strong kill, either I do it since I can't be tracked and we keep it for later or we use it now, but we run the risk of you getting tracked by someone.
 

Hawthorn

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I think the rough consensus is kill Nat, block Salva. Question is are we more worried about protection or about trackers? I kind of like using the strong kill, because that way Geno can use the item steal or track -- not shot limited, right?
 

Hawthorn

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Could be fun to take a chance on the item steal, but if they're given out by vendors there might not be that many out there yet.
 
I think the rough consensus is kill Nat, block Salva. Question is are we more worried about protection or about trackers? I kind of like using the strong kill, because that way Geno can use the item steal or track -- not shot limited, right?
Not shot limited yeah, but I prefer tracking from stealing item right now, if I do use track, who should I use it on? Maol just to see if anything's up with that?
 

Hawthorn

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Not shot limited yeah, but I prefer tracking from stealing item right now, if I do use track, who should I use it on? Maol just to see if anything's up with that?
Sure, sounds as good as any, and helpful to have info if he doesn't go the way we expect

Rough plan:

Hawthorn: Strong kill Nat
Fate: Block Salva
Geno: Track Maol

Tomorrow -- try to subtly go along with expected Sawneeks push

Are we all good with that?
 

Hawthorn

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Yeah, but more than one vote thief? I think most people will think that’s too unlikely
 

Hawthorn

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Stuff sometimes gets redacted from pms. Like I remember from risk, one of my top 3 favorite mafia games ever…
 

Hawthorn

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Loki, can we put the block command in for fate if he’s busy/can’t check in before actions close?
 
If it comes up I'll push the narrative that it couldn't be him because the PM doesn't mention it, it might lead to a Sparks vote later down the line.
 

Hawthorn

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If it comes up I'll push the narrative that it couldn't be him because the PM doesn't mention it, it might lead to a Sparks vote later down the line.
Cool, I'll probably go with the opposite to create distance, but weakly
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
@Geno No Result!

@Hawthorn You have received a HAPPY MEAL! Would you like to Open it or Leave it closed? You may keep your happy meal until you pick one of these two options.
 
My reasoning for opening the happy meal is that I have an item steal, and since that exists I'm assuming items are good to have. Since it's a happy meal I'm assuming captain nuevo's character is giving them out.
 
Liking this kill, if they claimed they'd be soft confirmed so we'd have to take them out at some point anyway, plus it took out LP as well who's not a bad player and Sneeks did not die from a vig, I'm guessing no SK for now.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
J/K open happy meal
Your Happy Meal contains a Birdie toy! She’s that loveable bird who’s there to brighten up everyone’s day and – oh, what’s this? Sorry, we’ve just been informed that Birdie “officially sucks”. Who said that? But if that’s true, then I suppose… You will be hated during the next day phase and will require one vote less than majority to be eliminated.
 

Hawthorn

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I'm thinking that the happy meals are probably a mix of good and bad effects. I just happened to get the bad toy.
 
Ok so 19 players, assuming no extra deaths in play
16v3 ML
14v3 ML
12V3 ML
10V3 ML
8V3 ML
6V3 ML
4V3 ML
Win
That's 7 mislynches there's gotta be an extra kill in here somewhere, I don't think this balance makes sense otherwise. I really hope at least.
 

Hawthorn

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Ok so 19 players, assuming no extra deaths in play
16v3 ML
14v3 ML
12V3 ML
10V3 ML
8V3 ML
6V3 ML
4V3 ML
Win
That's 7 mislynches there's gotta be an extra kill in here somewhere, I don't think this balance makes sense otherwise. I really hope at least.
Four is too tiny. My guess is a killing neutral who's biding their time.
 

Hawthorn

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Forgetting how annoying it is to be suspected as mafia. It’s like, get off my back! Do you know how hard I’m trying to sound town???
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
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i have no idea whats going on
every 2nd post being a sparks post isnt helping either
 
So sounds like the plan is
Kill Nat
Roleblock Geno
Track Haw
Did I get that right? If so then we aren't we tracking someone like Maol, I think we're way more likely to see something there than with a shot in the dark like with Haw, and I do think we roleblock Salva here since it's confirmed he has a role that acts.

I'm planning to make the above post 300 times in this thread non stop so Maol gets this on N2, any changes you want me to make?
 

Hawthorn

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So sounds like the plan is
Kill Nat
Roleblock Geno
Track Haw
Did I get that right? If so then we aren't we tracking someone like Maol, I think we're way more likely to see something there than with a shot in the dark like with Haw, and I do think we roleblock Salva here since it's confirmed he has a role that acts.

I'm planning to make the above post 300 times in this thread non stop so Maol gets this on N2, any changes you want me to make?
Will Loki mod kill us if you do that though?
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
So sounds like the plan is
Kill Nat
Roleblock Geno
Track Haw
Did I get that right? If so then we aren't we tracking someone like Maol, I think we're way more likely to see something there than with a shot in the dark like with Haw, and I do think we roleblock Salva here since it's confirmed he has a role that acts.

I'm planning to make the above post 300 times in this thread non stop so Maol gets this on N2, any changes you want me to make?
Like the substance. Fewer run-on sentences. They sound like someone
 
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