Scum Thread Scum Volcano Island

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Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
it's incredible lmfao. Pretty tough roster, but I think we got this. Open setup so we could try the nightless play of just busing to a stupid degree
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
yeah i was thinking that too but im not sure how serious people will be here. i say we wing it and if bussing seems like a good thing then floor it.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
okay yeah seems like we're just vibing and chilling. Want to use this chat as a pair chat until this is over?
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
i honestly kinda do? because why shoot kawl at all. he hadn't mentioned him in the game at all beforehand.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I just don't really see it. Like from a scum perspective I just can't see the advantage to it at all, so it honestly just kind of looks like he meme'd a bit too hard
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Nah, scum get the bonus of shooting a 'random' townie. Brazil doesn't really have scum reads in the main thread and sorian had a point that he was Neutral hunting and not scum hunting at the end there. So he comes into today with no scum reads, no mention of kawl at all, and just so happens to shoot him?

it says he never cared what kawl's alignment was when taking the shot. he did want to get a vote off of him in this mini game though
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I'm sorry I know it's a legit read, but this was such a good spot to bus and I had to take it. Do you have anything else you want to talk about by the by?
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
whelp, i reread the rules and only the living remainder of the team gets a gift/item. so uh, good luck?

i was town leaning a bit on you yesterday in the main thread but something seems more off today. less involvement from you and more of a detachment kinda vibe. you doing okay?
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
whelp, i reread the rules and only the living remainder of the team gets a gift/item. so uh, good luck?

i was town leaning a bit on you yesterday in the main thread but something seems more off today. less involvement from you and more of a detachment kinda vibe. you doing okay?

Oh god I legit thought we diced rolled between us two regardless of who was alive I'm sorry.

I'm trying to be kind of detached from this little game within a game,

Honestly I am kind of trying to wait to see how these ITA's turn out before I go too hard into anything. How I'm trying to approach is to kind of take a step back when all the genoness is going on and then trying to sort it out a bit later after things have calmed down and the thread slows a bit.

You have any general thoughts from the game you want to shoot around? I feel like we're seeing the game from two different places but I don't think your position comes across as scummy
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Nah, I can understand that. It's basically how I'm approaching this game in general knowing things can change drastically so quickly so I'm trying focus more on the 'in the moment' gameplay rather than deep dives. It's honestly leaving me a little lost given how much is going on but I'm hoping what im doing is laying down the work for future Town to figure all this out. getting info down on the page that can be looked at later sorta thing.

i guess....idk, who do you trust so far? I still think Rando is good, Ephie's posts from last day phase still say town to me (though pending today given that message about alignment changes), and Neon giving you the buck bumble cart and then admitting it felt too pure to be underhanded lol.

im trying to work from town outwards and see how it goes. too many nulls to even keep track of
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Bless that Neon post for giving me an off ramp.

I like the approach of looking outwards from town reads. Here's some of mine but these aren't the strongest

I think Fran is town. Feel like he put a lot of work in when he got called out by us, and I thought the conclusions he reached seemed genuine.

Hedin feels good. Liked his back and forth with Fanto and I feel like his reaction to that tracks with what I expect from town Hedin

I think ATP getting heated there was genuine. I've pushed him for his games starting off a bit slow recently, and I think he's trying to find his footing here still, but it feels townie and I think this leads to heartbreak for town

Wee seems aggressively town. Her vibes have been great so far.

Ephi also just seems aggressively town. As the certified Ephi whisper none of her usual scum tells are here and she just gives off the eager and excited vibe.

Fate is probably town

Fanto/nin. I think this slot got pushed a lot because Fanto was putting the spotlight on herself, but she came across as pretty townie to me

100% agreed on Neon. He is townie as fuck

I hate saying this, but Sorian as only been trending upwards on my town read scale since my initial town read.

Ael's energy just seems real relaxed. Could see them maybe being neutral or something, but I do not get scum vibes from them at all.

Holy fuck there's so many players in this list I'm just going to list off my other town reads and I will tell you about them if you're curious why did I think this was a good idea.

Maol, Faddy, Terra, Random, EC, Leo, Stan, Fando, and Brazil.

Actually let me explain Fando and Brazil a bit because I feel like that's a hot topic. This is super fucking meta but with how much they keep gravitating toward each other it honestly feels like they just rolled town and they're seeing town in themselves. If they're on opposite teams I don't think they do this to this degree, and if they're on the same team there's no way they do this to any degree. I think they've kind of latched onto each other because they're not on a team.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
oh wow you're doing a lot better than i am lol.

but reading these im nodding along to some of them. Hedin seemed fine from what I remember, Fran's return was also fine but nothing agressively townie, ATP i agree on his reaction being town, Wee's claim still gave me town vibes.

I'm still not sure where I am on Fate. What is making you trust him?

sorian i begrudingly agree. though part of me hopes his weird sparks knowledge isn't actually secure just because it would be funny.

what's got you town on EC? he's in that conglomerate of people i dont have a real read on.

think i might disagree on stan but it's mostly gut. on the surface he's fine but when i went back to check why he took zook's vote away i came away from it a little unsure about him. I don't know if he's scum just enjoying the weird fame he got or he's neutral having a laugh. but he's not doing a lot of pro-town stuff.

And noted on the Fando/Brazil thing. I still think it's possible one could be scum and the other town but i'd agree that they likely aren't W/W teamed. T/T is definitely possible thoughl ike you said, i'm just still grumbley about brazil's shot and his continued refusal to answer my question in the main thread even IF the answer is obvious. i want to hear him say it. :x
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
oh, actually, add Bear to the likely Town list. he genuinely seems lost and i dont think that would happen if he had a team behind him. possibly neutral pending future posts but i dont think he's scum at the very least
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Geno game and all that, but I really don't see a gladiator as a scum role and him getting emotional didn't strike me as a scummy reaction tbh. I could be wrong here, but I feel like it's going to resolve itself before it ends up mattering.

EC changed up his town game a bit in the last game he played were he's trying to be more open about his thought process and that's kind of shining through a bit here for me.

I got the vibe he's trying to not rock the boat too hard with the power, but I do like how he used it today more or less. Felt like more of an unpressured vibe, but this read isn't all that strong

I don't have any strong feelings toward Bear, but yeah I would agree he seems pure.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Hopefully I make it through this first phase just so I can keep talking to you here. It's been good to get my thoughts all sorted out and in a better place compared to the chaos of the main thread.

And if I die, well....idk, maybe you're pocketing me hardcore with this but hopefully you win the item here. I'd trust you with it at least.

Gnight chuggs
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
bahhhh, i'm sorry friend I have to blend and even then it's probably a long shot. If you make it back before the day is over try to push for me as well
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Nah it's k. If I'm not here for n2 you should try for Fran or something. We could try pushing the brothers?
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I think our best bet might be trying to aim for town for the most part and make them think we might be the jester and hope they eat themselves in paranoia, I don’t know if we’re going to sell anyone but Neon on pushes. Also I’ll probably just vote Random if he claims jester tbh
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Nat’s still kind of a null for me but there’s a possibility this game might just be pure in terms of alignment so I’m not too stressed about which way this goes
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
god, trying to catch up on two games is soulcrushing. RIP

i'll follow your lead here, i need to read the chaos of main thread
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
i was going to come in here and say 'dont shoot fando' but i forgot when reading the main thread oops.

uh, good luck?

i mean if anything and we lose at least Rando gets the item
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
He honestly didn’t seem to be trying to get himself killed but I kind of had a feeling it was between him and Fran. Brazil was probably the better kill, but I feel slightly better about him than Fando.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
hahahaha, true true.

anything you want to talk about from the main thread before this thing implodes?
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
im still puzzling over salva's vote coming back and stan's being decreased. it seems related given it happened right after his vote was taken away which makes me think it's a reflexive kind of ability. i agree with other's that he's been around a lot but isn't actually scumhunting in any way - he's just enjoying being here and having a good time. considering other's are doing the same and still looking for scum it gives me a bad vibe but not one i'd gun for today. guess i'd watch him? but he wouldn't be someone i'd be opposed to seeing flip

Blarg i have no fucking clue. him being on vacation and not posting as much is making it harder to even read him when he's a bit difficult in general. i still stick by the rule of thumb that if blarg isnt trying to solve by D3 or D4, even if it's just conspiracy theories, then he's likely scum. i havent seen solving here so far either but i remember thinking his shot choice was interesting at least. he'd be one i'd watch as well.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
just in case the turbo happens when i'm sleepin' this is going to be the kill overnight

KILL: Randomless
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
The safe move here is to kill Brazil and implicate Fran but that's meh.

The sweaty move is to kill neon and play harder

Hmmmm

KILL: Neon
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
hoping we can talk about this in the main thread soon because i went from 'YEAH VI2!!' to burnt out in record time. im tired
 
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