Game Thread MafiEra Mafia Ultimate Day 3

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Lightning Strikes

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So sorian is now a stump, neat
Well hes out of contention either way
We should move on from this and think bigger picture what we want to do the rest of the day
 

Pink Ranger

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So wait.

Sparks was a one-sided lover. And the other side of the lover wasn't Sorian.

So someone was in a chat with Sparks and should know what they did.
 

Rey

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Okay so his created role was some kind of cop check.

His own role got boosted by his item so he not only can come back to life but could bring kawl back too.

Okay I feel a little better now
 
Don’t blame Pazzo

I know the real red check but do we do it today while we are in costumes, I’m not going anywhere
 

Illuminati member 2

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Sparks literally said in our lovers chat I AM SCUM
That does sound like Sparks. It was way too sparks. The only way you would doubt this was sparks is if this was Costume Game and believed someone else was impersonating sparks.

Oh wait.

I can't stop laughing. The mod chat must be rolling right now.
 

Pink Ranger

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Yep but he doesn't count for Town winning Majority or Voting Majority during the Day

@Geno wait does he count for Vote majority in non mylo situations when he is still voting

The way Geno has done it in the past is that the MAJORITY is having more votes than 50% of alive players. So Sorian won't be counted in the alive players number but their vote will still count.
 

Lightning Strikes

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Don’t blame Pazzo

I know the real red check but do we do it today while we are in costumes, I’m not going anywhere
In theory, wouldn't you vanish completely if you got salva role removed? I dont think its likely but if there are switcher shenanigans it is something to keep in mind
 

Rey

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Sparks lover is probably scum.

He probably got confused between the lover chat and the costume pair chat
 

Bob Ross

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So either the sorian/sparks pairing today is some rng bullshit or these pairs are not completely random — given how tied Sorian and Sparks were in D1 and 2.
 

Illuminati member 2

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So either the sorian/sparks pairing today is some rng bullshit or these pairs are not completely random — given how tied Sorian and Sparks were in D1 and 2.
I mentioned that before and if Sorian was not Sparks original lover that does raise some questions. Whoever had the chat with Sparks probably could still talk with him until Sparks flipped.
 

Minecraft Steve

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I mentioned that before and if Sorian was not Sparks original lover that does raise some questions. Whoever had the chat with Sparks probably could still talk with him until Sparks flipped.
i also mentioned this before

i think i know who my partner is and it would be ironic to be paired with them if so

that's 2 coincidences
 
In Hindsight It was probably fine to share I was Marked since multiple people were.

I thought it only happen to me and if I said it early I could never directly mention it again in the main thread and people would have no idea real Me was marked

I feel silly i misread how this costume stuff works and was stressed so hard for nothing.
 

Illuminati member 3

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Don’t blame Pazzo

I know the real red check but do we do it today while we are in costumes, I’m not going anywhere

We have 20+ townies here who can offer opinions about which costume this person is hiding behind. It feels like it should be possible to identify most people with this many eye pairs. Or are you worried about losing the lover? -1 is sad, but we have plenty of folks around and if the lover is super town of immense importance, we can consider doing something else (though I feel at that point away the scum goes anyway).
 

Pink Ranger

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Yeah we might as well hear the red check. What are they going to do. Make themselves not mafia?

Thresh you are already dead. And how do you know Sparks didn't lie to you in the pairs chat. Maybe his lover is mafia and told him to say all that fake stuff
 

Illuminati member 2

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Pazzo had the money. Pazzo thought scum should not have it.
Well, Pazzo was right about that.

I'm trying to think of scum reasons to drop the nuke then and there, but I feel that your motivations are probably not scum. I don't think scum would want to waste the nuke now, or miss their chance of nuking two players at once.

Hmm, this makes me think scum is not allowed to know who the other members are in costume. Think about it, it's an unfair advantage if they have day kills, they can nuke two players and they'll be safe from repercussions as long as no people figures who they are or votes them out, and they can avoid getting voted out by either justifying their kill or maybe an item or power.

But if they don't know who their teammates are, they have to be careful who to daykill or even vote out. They are just too strong if they know who each other is during this phase.
 

Minecraft Steve

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scum have plausible deniability to nuke spider-man but its also classic mafiera town to kill the cop/doctor

do think was a bit rushed, thresh claiming spidey open wolfing did not help matters, the decisive action was funny and gave us stuff to talk about, pazzo was consistent wiht doubting spidey, isoing pazzo i can see townie there especially the "feeling a bit lost" post

i think pazzo is town
 

Bob Ross

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I for one dont think pazzo is scum, at worst misguided town

Have to agree with my pair. I guess the nuking is not 100% aligment indicative, but it definitely did not scream scum to me. I think actual scum would rather let the discussion on Spider-Man take over and distract for as long as possible instead of quickly nixing it.
 

Minecraft Steve

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Well, Pazzo was right about that.

I'm trying to think of scum reasons to drop the nuke then and there, but I feel that your motivations are probably not scum. I don't think scum would want to waste the nuke now, or miss their chance of nuking two players at once.

Hmm, this makes me think scum is not allowed to know who the other members are in costume. Think about it, it's an unfair advantage if they have day kills, they can nuke two players and they'll be safe from repercussions as long as no people figures who they are or votes them out, and they can avoid getting voted out by either justifying their kill or maybe an item or power.

But if they don't know who their teammates are, they have to be careful who to daykill or even vote out. They are just too strong if they know who each other is during this phase.
scum have huge advantages the whole game i dont see why itd be different here

we know they get items of people that they kill, they can jsut stack items all game long and pass them to scummates if theyre in danger

i think the counter to scum daykills is we can vote them out, or scum are all paired with each other like in fate/mafioso
 

Illuminati member 2

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Pazzo could be scum if pazzo doesn't know who their partners is and didn't want to risk hitting them, I guess.

But, hmm, I still don't think scum pazzo would drop it right here and now. Their shot to me was aiming for scum flip.
Hell, even if scum pazzo didn't want to hit a partner, the narrative was that spider was scum at the moment, scum pazzo could believe spider was actually a teammate and in that case wouldn't nuke there.

The more I think about it the more I think Pazzo was trying to hit scum.
 

Illuminati member 2

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scum have huge advantages the whole game i dont see why itd be different here

we know they get items of people that they kill, they can jsut stack items all game long and pass them to scummates if theyre in danger

i think the counter to scum daykills is we can vote them out, or scum are all paired with each other like in fate/mafioso
Yeah, it's kind of a pointless hypothetical. It doesn't really matter since we are going to exit our costumes anyway.
 

Illuminati member 3

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On-demand kill is a very powerful tool for scum and if Pazzo is town read enough in the main thread, there could've been an incentive to save it for later. On the other hand this was a perfect opportunity to use it in a manner that'd give him all the plausible deniability he could get - and to drop it on cop and Sorian of all things.

The manner how it was done though feels more town to me. Felt like there was contemplation, patience and progression there. Would be opposed to flipping Rita-Pazzo today.
 

Pink Ranger

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Yeah, it's kind of a pointless hypothetical. It doesn't really matter since we are going to exit our costumes anyway.

I can tell you right now that I am in a chat and we can post in costumes in there. So even if you can't work out exactly who each person is everyone in the chat knows the costumes of the others in the chat. I assume it is the same for mafia.
 

Illuminati member 2

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I can tell you right now that I am in a chat and we can post in costumes in there. So even if you can't work out exactly who each person is everyone in the chat knows the costumes of the others in the chat. I assume it is the same for mafia.
That is very interesting, thank you.

All together I feel ok about Pazzo. If I had the nuke I'll probably nuke there too.
 

Minecraft Steve

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im starting to feel better about member 2 in here but i also think i was wrong in assuming who they were

i think theyve been using this nuke stuff as an opportunty to solve which is townie
 
Ok I’m back, now that I’m dead dead, we can do some facts

I can still vote and hammer and all that, I’m just not alive for the purposes of saying “8 is today’s majority” and I’m not blocking the scum win condition anymore.

You can’t interact with me, I know my PM says items but I was actually confused on that too, I’m not valid for votes, roles, anything.

The role I created was chief of police, I was given the name of one random cop in the entire game before it started and then I was allowed to once see all cop results in a single night (not who they targeted just a list of what everyone got back in PMs)

Backing up a second, when I won roulette, the item I received turned into 2000 mafiera bucks instantly, sounds like Fran got something similar after VI. After you all rudely passed me on pub lord, I was no longer obligated to supply a prize for trivia so I spent my money on a map. Two people had a map yesterday as the one yesterday was bought as well. The map MAKES IT SO THAT YOU ARE NOT LIMITED BY ANY MAP NONSENSE. So last night, I could act on the entire monopoly board and one other person could have as well.

I used my role last night and I only got back one report, someone scanned as not town. What I was referring to earlier in the day is that I’m shocked there was no role cop activity which makes me feel like scum might have been unable to act last night. It was only N2 and I’d think a role cop would have more than 1 shot.

More importantly, Sparks did report a red check in private to me which obviously matched the only cop check that should have happened last night.

The red check was Ephi

I do not want to hear any nonsense that Spark told me the wrong name, this was before he started getting weird. Idk who his other lover was or what was going on there but I trust the check
 

San Franpsycho

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I thought pazzo was kyan and I’ve town read kyan so I’d like to think they’re town.

Again, thinking sparks behavior is “too exaggerated to not be roleplay” is self defeating. It’s people who try to imitate it that are off.

Sparks’ Lover could be scum in theory but I don’t think they should be required to out themselves. I highly doubt sparks himself was converted. A mixed pair lovers can only exist in a game like this, but it’s also a place where having lovers be same alignment doesn’t give the same trust level that lovers normally have, so it could just be a setup meant to invite suspicion of each other.
 

Lightning Strikes

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Ok I’m back, now that I’m dead dead, we can do some facts

I can still vote and hammer and all that, I’m just not alive for the purposes of saying “8 is today’s majority” and I’m not blocking the scum win condition anymore.

You can’t interact with me, I know my PM says items but I was actually confused on that too, I’m not valid for votes, roles, anything.

The role I created was chief of police, I was given the name of one random cop in the entire game before it started and then I was allowed to once see all cop results in a single night (not who they targeted just a list of what everyone got back in PMs)

Backing up a second, when I won roulette, the item I received turned into 2000 mafiera bucks instantly, sounds like Fran got something similar after VI. After you all rudely passed me on pub lord, I was no longer obligated to supply a prize for trivia so I spent my money on a map. Two people had a map yesterday as the one yesterday was bought as well. The map MAKES IT SO THAT YOU ARE NOT LIMITED BY ANY MAP NONSENSE. So last night, I could act on the entire monopoly board and one other person could have as well.

I used my role last night and I only got back one report, someone scanned as not town. What I was referring to earlier in the day is that I’m shocked there was no role cop activity which makes me feel like scum might have been unable to act last night. It was only N2 and I’d think a role cop would have more than 1 shot.

More importantly, Sparks did report a red check in private to me which obviously matched the only cop check that should have happened last night.

The red check was Ephi

I do not want to hear any nonsense that Spark told me the wrong name, this was before he started getting weird. Idk who his other lover was or what was going on there but I trust the check
Ok so do you think there is any value in trying to figure out who Ephi is today while in costume, or do you think that is a lost cause?
 
No clue who Ephi is in this game, if someone has a clue please share. If not, we can deal with them tomorrow.

Also, Sorian you can create whatever role you want and you make that? Booooring.
 

Illuminati member 2

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Ok I’m back, now that I’m dead dead, we can do some facts

I can still vote and hammer and all that, I’m just not alive for the purposes of saying “8 is today’s majority” and I’m not blocking the scum win condition anymore.

You can’t interact with me, I know my PM says items but I was actually confused on that too, I’m not valid for votes, roles, anything.

The role I created was chief of police, I was given the name of one random cop in the entire game before it started and then I was allowed to once see all cop results in a single night (not who they targeted just a list of what everyone got back in PMs)

Backing up a second, when I won roulette, the item I received turned into 2000 mafiera bucks instantly, sounds like Fran got something similar after VI. After you all rudely passed me on pub lord, I was no longer obligated to supply a prize for trivia so I spent my money on a map. Two people had a map yesterday as the one yesterday was bought as well. The map MAKES IT SO THAT YOU ARE NOT LIMITED BY ANY MAP NONSENSE. So last night, I could act on the entire monopoly board and one other person could have as well.

I used my role last night and I only got back one report, someone scanned as not town. What I was referring to earlier in the day is that I’m shocked there was no role cop activity which makes me feel like scum might have been unable to act last night. It was only N2 and I’d think a role cop would have more than 1 shot.

More importantly, Sparks did report a red check in private to me which obviously matched the only cop check that should have happened last night.

The red check was Ephi

I do not want to hear any nonsense that Spark told me the wrong name, this was before he started getting weird. Idk who his other lover was or what was going on there but I trust the check
This all tracks. Also I love the Chief role. I also have no reason to doubt the check since you have a way to confirm it and sparks is dead.

So, we have to find Ephi.
 
Ok so do you think there is any value in trying to figure out who Ephi is today while in costume, or do you think that is a lost cause?
I haven’t pinged Ephi at all, she is probably one of the RPers honestly.
No clue who Ephi is in this game, if someone has a clue please share. If not, we can deal with them tomorrow.

Also, Sorian you can create whatever role you want and you make that? Booooring.
I had stipulations but I liked the role! I got banned from being allowed to revive someone forever with my second create a power which was kind of lame
 
No clue who Ephi is in this game, if someone has a clue please share. If not, we can deal with them tomorrow.

Also, Sorian you can create whatever role you want and you make that? Booooring.
Sorians role is fantastic. super creative and useful.

Im so sorry i did not vote sorian pub lord.
 
Do we think Ephi could be Sparks lover partners? That sounds like something Sparks would mention.
I had no indication pre flip that Sparks was in another lovers role, I just started getting the weird messages that someone else was posting from the account but I have to assume that was Sparks playing games
 

Bob Ross

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I haven't noticed anyone close to Ephidel, but I'm also pretty bad at these things.

Ephi was the last voter on the Turmoil wagon yesterday, at the same minute as the day ended.
 

Minecraft Steve

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Do we think Ephi could be Sparks lover partners? That sounds like something Sparks would mention.
time to cross thread iso

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Pink Ranger

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Ok I’m back, now that I’m dead dead, we can do some facts

I can still vote and hammer and all that, I’m just not alive for the purposes of saying “8 is today’s majority” and I’m not blocking the scum win condition anymore.

You can’t interact with me, I know my PM says items but I was actually confused on that too, I’m not valid for votes, roles, anything.

The role I created was chief of police, I was given the name of one random cop in the entire game before it started and then I was allowed to once see all cop results in a single night (not who they targeted just a list of what everyone got back in PMs)

Backing up a second, when I won roulette, the item I received turned into 2000 mafiera bucks instantly, sounds like Fran got something similar after VI. After you all rudely passed me on pub lord, I was no longer obligated to supply a prize for trivia so I spent my money on a map. Two people had a map yesterday as the one yesterday was bought as well. The map MAKES IT SO THAT YOU ARE NOT LIMITED BY ANY MAP NONSENSE. So last night, I could act on the entire monopoly board and one other person could have as well.

I used my role last night and I only got back one report, someone scanned as not town. What I was referring to earlier in the day is that I’m shocked there was no role cop activity which makes me feel like scum might have been unable to act last night. It was only N2 and I’d think a role cop would have more than 1 shot.

More importantly, Sparks did report a red check in private to me which obviously matched the only cop check that should have happened last night.

The red check was Ephi

I do not want to hear any nonsense that Spark told me the wrong name, this was before he started getting weird. Idk who his other lover was or what was going on there but I trust the check

That all makes sense to me.

Sparks was limited to a few people. Geno kind of just took his post about asking if he could use the card for actually using the card.

We had a whole bunch of people who were roleblocked last night. Why do you assume the lack of role cop activity means that they are mafia. Everyone in jail was roleblocked. Wee was roleblocked and they claimed a cop role.
 
i think it would be best to wait until tomorrow for ephi to be sure even though it gives her a night to do something, i have no idea who should could be.

if we all come to that decision do we want to no vote today then? we already lost two town and have a line on scum but aren't sure who they are.
 

Rey

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i think it would be best to wait until tomorrow for ephi to be sure even though it gives her a night to do something, i have no idea who should could be.

if we all come to that decision do we want to no vote today then? we already lost two town and have a line on scum but aren't sure who they are.

I'm in favour of a no vote
 

Illuminati member 2

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i think it would be best to wait until tomorrow for ephi to be sure even though it gives her a night to do something, i have no idea who should could be.

if we all come to that decision do we want to no vote today then? we already lost two town and have a line on scum but aren't sure who they are.
I don't agree, I think we should make an effort to try and find ephi now. Scum has an interest in obfuscating and making it harder for town to find Ephi and we can learn a lot about the game now if we are able to make a convincing list of who is who in this thread.
 
That all makes sense to me.

Sparks was limited to a few people. Geno kind of just took his post about asking if he could use the card for actually using the card.

We had a whole bunch of people who were roleblocked last night. Why do you assume the lack of role cop activity means that they are mafia. Everyone in jail was roleblocked. Wee was roleblocked and they claimed a cop role.
I just think there was a role cop in jail. Tbh, I kind of side eye Wee too now that we are on that topic, I don’t think she is another alignment cop, especially now seeing that Sparks was 3-shot
 
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