The Network Focus Group

[Hedin]

Gather round as we observe a collection of cartoons and see who makes the cut. Snacks and drinks can be found on the table behind you and please remember to be kind to the hardworking cartoon characters out there just looking to entertain their audience.

 

[Alexem]

As Bert Raccoon's in the game banner, I'm just going to come out with it now - I may not have been a fan of the show itself, but that ending theme still slaps.

If there's a Raccoons related flip and isn't accompanied by this song, that'd be an unforgivable waste.

 

[Hedin]

I can safely say there are no Raccoons in the game because this is the first time that I think that I have ever heard of it. Looking at the wiki it looks like it was only on the Disney Channel instead of broadcast TV and we didn't get cable until 91 so that makes sense why I hadn't heard of it.

That song is a bop though.

 

[Alexem]

Presented without comment.

Wtf is this bullshit?

 

[Hedin]

Not much mafia playing so far, even for a D1.

 

[lokiduck]

Not much mafia playing so far, even for a D1.

don't worry boss :catcop: I posted the vote tool to remind them what they are playing.

 

[Alexem]

I love that even though Jam's new to the community, he's already found a rival in Corrik after the last game.

 

[Zookfoodle]

This will be fun

 

[Hedin]

This will be fun

Especially for you since you accidentally saw the roles but not who got them.

 

[Zookfoodle]

Especially for you since you accidentally saw the roles but not who got them.

i dont know if it was an accident
i think the big guy in the sky was looking out for me cause i definitely would not have wanted to play that game with the role i got, lol, given what i knew about everyone else
so i guess everything worked out

 

[Hedin]

i dont know if it was an accident
i think the big guy in the sky was looking out for me cause i definitely would not have wanted to play that game with the role i got, lol, given what i knew about everyone else
so i guess everything worked out

I had too many tabs open and the one that you got would probably have been the only one to cause an issue unfortunately.

 

[Zookfoodle]

I had too many tabs open and the one that you got would probably have been the only one to cause an issue unfortunately.

its fate
but i am excited to see how everything turns out. while i do know the roles and stuff, i don't know anything about the events you have planned so i will be waiting patiently for those like everyone else

 

[jman1954goat]

Why take out Jam over Sparks here?

 

[Hedin]

Sparks is safe from elimination.

 

[Hedin]

That was a bit of no action cluster at the end.

 

[Alexem]

Ah, there's no better way to start the game than by offing your doc straight out of the gates.

 

[Hedin]

Yeah and unfortunately nin came in like seconds before the end and couldn't do anything about it.

 

[Chuggernaut]

God damnit I even did a sketchy vote switch too

 

[Chuggernaut]

It's hard to not look too town when town isn't doing anything

 

[Chuggernaut]

Oh there's some funny business going on I see

 

[Hedin]

There is? News to me.

 

[lokiduck]

I too don't see anything.

 

[Maolfunction]

that's an interesting flip

 

[Hedin]

Looks like two perfectly normal flips to me?

 

[Zookfoodle]

Seems fine to me.

 

[Chuggernaut]

that's an interesting flip

Interesting is a strong word. I'm neutral on it myself

 

[Alexem]

If they're serious about stopping Reptar, someone ought to send Mr Friend in to terrify him.

 

[Hedin]

If they're serious about stopping Reptar, someone ought to send Mr Friend in to terrify him.

Now I don't mind inflicting a level of trauma on to my players but that might be a few levels too far.

 

[Hedin]

People do stuff in mafia I don't understand all the time.

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Hedin]

For the record in here, Reptar is just a big bag of hit points to distract them for a day. There is a phase 2 but its only if half of the players are eliminated.

 

[Maolfunction]

Interesting is a strong word. I'm neutral on it myself

hm

 

[Hedin]

I mean, I DID get hit twice and that's pretty unlikely to be random

The joys of random generation. It won't get that far and he would be at 0 before it got there but ATP is listed 4 times in a row on the list to be hit.

 

[heymonkey]

I only asked for spec so I could laugh over Geno asking for an auto-win in the minigame.

 

[Hedin]

I only asked for spec so I could laugh over Geno asking for an auto-win in the minigame.

I'm glad he gets to experience the other side of it.

 

[Hedin]

I actually focus on work for 30 minutes and what do I come back to....

 

[heymonkey]

I actually focus on work for 30 minutes and what do I come back to....

you did this to yourself

 

[Hedin]

you did this to yourself

I should have made three Reptar phases.

 

[lokiduck]

this is why events suck :bouncy: well it's not the only reason LOL.

 

[Donnie]

:weegee: hello fellow cereal lovers!

 

[Hedin]

:weegee: hello fellow cereal lovers!

Thats a different game waiting to be scheduled.

 

[Donnie]

 

[Donnie]

Ngl it was a little disappointing to jump into a bastard game and roll vanilla

 

[Hedin]

I wonder what Fran and rac are talking about....

 

[Chuggernaut]

Yeah I kind of felt like Fran and rac were figuring it out yesterday

 

[Hedin]

I keep waiting for someone to spill it rather than dancing around.

 

[Donnie]

I got out right before the nightmare began

 

[Maolfunction]

So, now that everyone knows, were the kills on Chuggs and I pure meta?

 

[Hedin]

They still need to figure out who is killing them at least. Plus go for their individual win cons.

 

[Hedin]

So, now that everyone knows, were the kills on Chuggs and I pure meta?

I think Chugg was more of a loud voice. I'm actually not sure about why you were killed.

 

[Hedin]

Despite them realizing the gimmick it keeps going until they get the killers.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Maol if you were alive on day 3 I was going to invite you to my fire chat. The other person on the list was ATP, with Geno and Swamped being alternates if that didn’t work out. Bummed I died early because I was really excited for that role lmao

 

[Donnie]

A fireside chat with Chuggs

 

[Maolfunction]

Maol if you were alive on day 3 I was going to invite you to my fire chat. The other person on the list was ATP, with Geno and Swamped being alternates if that didn’t work out. Bummed I died early because I was really excited for that role lmao

I was surprised I died considering I purposefully wanted to look bad D1 to avoid the NKs. Love how many people thought they saw an opportunity to kill me early on D1 tho. I was legitimately not around for EoD though, so I got lucky with the nin flip.

 

[Donnie]

I was surprised I died considering I purposefully wanted to look bad D1 to avoid the NKs. Love how many people thought they saw an opportunity to kill me early on D1 tho. I was legitimately not around for EoD though, so I got lucky with the nin flip.

I habe no idea who did it or why but I think it depends on what your own default state is lol like if I had had a killing ability I would of killed you because I can't help but play townie, I like trying to catch. Trying you + clearing up the competition wagon in one is a good move if you're thinking like that.

 

[Donnie]

I suppose it depends what the actual wincon is too

 

[Hedin]

I felt bad for nin, all he literally had to do was survive D1 and he had a good chance. The longer he was in the better chance but he still would have had a chance.

 

[Donnie]

I felt bad for nin, all he literally had to do was survive D1 and he had a good chance. The longer he was in the better chance but he still would have had a chance.

The community loves to default to nin lol it's unfortunate for him. I really was away for the evening when I said I was out for the night but wasn't shocked to find that as the result hah

 

[Hedin]

I think Mao, nin, and Chugg had my favorite roles.

 

[Hedin]

Jam's is pretty cool too I think. Might be a bit tricky for him at this stage though.

 

[Hedin]

I'm sorry if we are fucking up the game for everyone but this time Hedin made it too obvious.

It was the chat. I didn't consider what would happen if Chuggs got killed. Could have cheated a bit and made him flip town gossip or neighborizor but that felt like cheating.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Wow Fran thinks I was King Kitty? I’m insulted. Hurt even

Anyway yeah I was trying to do players I had a history with just to meme it as much as possible. Fran was scum in the first game I ever played and had me fooled for a good while, Swamped was my mentor in my first game, Maol was my scum buddy in this last game, Geno designed a game with me, ATP knows why I would invite him lol. Mad at myself for not dropping any fire jokes but I felt like that would start raising red flags pretty quickly with players that know the whole KingKitty thing

 

[Alexem]

[Reads overnight posts]

Finally, a bastard game to surpass Geno!

 

[Donnie]

Corrik's outrage at the game state coupled with the complete commitment to the insistence he's town is kind of wonderful lol

 

[Donnie]

I'm really interested to know what's the discussion in spec chat.

"Poor Fran"

 

[Donnie]

Was there a high post killer previously in fantasy star/another game or is this just a kind of paranoia rac has conjured up haha? I would just accept Death in that scenario :cor:

 

[Hedin]

I have no idea where rac is getting the high post killer thing. I mean people with killing roles tend to prefer taking out the loud voices but I don't think I have actually ever seen a mechanic that forces that to happen.

 

[Alexem]

High post killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

 

[Donnie]

@jman1954goat did you see how day 2 played out

 

[Hedin]

than vote the person who has been lying to you the whole game?

Hedin? I don't think we can.

This got me good, nice tag team.

 

[Donnie]

Actually, who is Bullwinkle here? That's the person Sparks was after. You are safe now, so you can claim.

Oh Bullwinkle is safe alright

 

[jman1954goat]

@jman1954goat did you see how day 2 played out

No. What happened?

 

[Donnie]

No. What happened?

Spoiler: For jman's eyes only if you don't want straight role spoilers

i managed to catch sparks on being rocky, got the vote wincon and peaced out at End of D2 lol

 

[Donnie]

Does jam need to vote for all the people on his list in a single day phase or something haha? I think that's the 5th vote he's placed on someone different this day phase

 

[Hedin]

Oh Jam has been lying his ass off all game. It's been fun to watch.

 

[Donnie]

Oh Jam has been lying his ass off all game. It's been fun to watch.

 

[Alexem]

Y’all are very silly.

He's learned about us so quickly in only one and a bit games.

 

[Hedin]

Also for the record there is no town, there is no scum, everyone is a neutral of some flavor.

 

[Alexem]

Funnily enough, this isn't the first time that I've come across the concept - Loki might remember the design I'm thinking of - but it's the first time that I've seen it get through to actually running.

EDIT - Nope, wait, Fantasy Star, I forgot that one. OK then, second time.

 

[Donnie]

LOL no flip?? That's going to drive them nuts

 

[Hedin]

LOL no flip?? That's going to drive them nuts

Jam isn't done playing yet....

 

[Hedin]

Actually I should say Jam just now started playing.

 

[rac]

i am so glad to be out of the game and to never be playing mafia again

just awful play, including my own
but seriously i don't know what the fuck anyone was doing

just absolute clown shoes

 

[Donnie]

The high post killer has struck again!

 

[Hedin]

i am so glad to be out of the game and to never be playing mafia again

just awful play, including my own
but seriously i don't know what the fuck anyone was doing

just absolute clown shoes

While it was cool watching you and Fran mind meld I wonder how things would have gone if you two kept things to yourself (I'm saying this as a player not the game runner, as game runner knock your socks off).

 

[Donnie]

i am so glad to be out of the game and to never be playing mafia again

just awful play, including my own
but seriously i don't know what the fuck anyone was doing

just absolute clown shoes

Fwiw I don't think you or anyone has played badly at all, everyone is just grappling with a very loaded game haha it maybe got a bit circular/snipey with you and corrik/jam but at least from the outside you were all clearly invested and trying your best from your own positions

 

[rac]

While it was cool watching you and Fran mind meld I wonder how things would have gone if you two kept things to yourself (I'm saying this as a player not the game runner, as game runner knock your socks off).

i was going to be the next lunch

it was being set up since sparks got lunched
i was dead no matter what

Fwiw I don't think you or anyone has played badly at all, everyone is just grappling with a very loaded game haha it maybe got a bit circular/snipey with you and corrik/jam but at least from the outside you were all clearly invested and trying your best from your own positions

circular logic is one thing

nothing corrik said made any sense at all, it was just fucking bullshit and everyone wanted to shade me for it



one thing i did not anticipate was everyone getting deflated after the reveal, made no sense to me

 

[rac]

sometimes i feel like im shadowbanned from the game or some shit

no one engages with me at a real level and even the person who knows i am 100% not lying will not see eye to eye with me

 

[Hedin]

one thing i did not anticipate was everyone getting deflated after the reveal, made no sense to me

Some people are not far along on their wincons so I think it might have been a case of seeing that not everyone can win, I dunno. Right now aside from the survivors and Donnie I think only 2-3 people have a realistic chance.

 

[Donnie]

sometimes i feel like im shadowbanned from the game or some shit

no one engages with me at a real level and even the person who knows i am 100% not lying will not see eye to eye with me

:( well that sucks that you get that impression, I really don't think it's personal or specific , I just think you're going to get that with a Loaded game like this where everyone really is out for themselves. Like removing the negative connotations from the idea, Corrik probably was talking bullshit ( I don't know his role or wincon) and others probably could see that to varying degrees but everyone in the game is a solo character with their own best interests so people are going to let it go along if there's something they can get out of it.

Hopefully you come play again, and feel better on it when there's been a little space from the play

 

[Donnie]

Some people are not far along on their wincons so I think it might have been a case of seeing that not everyone can win, I dunno. Right now aside from the survivors and Donnie I think only 2-3 people have a realistic chance.

We need to go spoils on wincons at some point so we can understand what we're seeing here lmao

 

[rac]

, I just think you're going to get that with a Loaded game

it's not this game

it's the way i play

 

[rac]

last thing ill say
well played to corrik

edited

 

[Hedin]

Spoiler: Spoiler only rac should read

Corrik was the one who killed you

 

[rac]

Spoiler: Spoiler only rac should read

Corrik was the one who killed you

like i said well played to him

i made the mistake of thinking that people that don't care would still try and solve or at least give me any good will at all
lesson learned

pce

 

[Donnie]

Let's try and keep it about the plays and not disparage other people personally, no one needs to come in here after a tough game and see themselves described as an idiot or not caring.

Totally understand you're feeling down rac and all I can say is I had fun playing with you, I'd be happy to play again.

 

[rac]

Let's try and keep it about the plays and not disparage other people personally, no one needs to come in here after a tough game and see themselves described as an idiot or not caring.

Totally understand you're feeling down rac and all I can say is I had fun playing with you, I'd be happy to play again.

you are right about this though

i apologize
i understand corrik is a very strong player and had a way better grasp of the game than i did

for real now this time i gotta stop caring

 

[rac]

also yeah @Jam

i would like to apologize to you as well
i acted really immature

if it makes you feel any better
i don't like when i post either

hope you guys continue to enjoy mafia in this community
it really is great

 

[Hedin]

After Jam does his thing when the day starts I'll go with open spoilers.

 

[Chuggernaut]

also yeah @Jam

i would like to apologize to you as well
i acted really immature

if it makes you feel any better
i don't like when i post either

hope you guys continue to enjoy mafia in this community
it really is great

I like when you post and you better play again (if you would like to) you goober

 

[Hedin]

Remaining players:

Swamped - mind controller who wins as a survivor
Geno - clairvoyant who wins if guesses 3 eliminations correctly
Fran - fake item giver who wins if 3 people try to use his hits
LP - even night RB, wins if RBs 3 players
EC - network executive, wins as a survivor
Ephi - 1 shot BP survivor
Jam - ghost war gamer, wins if defeats 3 players post death
Zbeat - odd night Siren, wins if he kills 3 players (he targeted Corrik last night, Corrik was immune but it counted as a successful target)
Corrik - SK, wins if only one standing

Any remaining players after the killing roles are eliminated will win as survivors regardless of their wincon.