Oh yeah and he was apparently vanillized? What scum team targets nin and Salva?
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Oh yeah and he was apparently vanillized? What scum team targets nin and Salva?
Verelios
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They're popular miselims T_T
Verelios
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I guess.
Also Zeke with the dramatic soft claim. Unless he's an IC I don't see myself being swayed on this.
Verelios
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I don't know, I'm still not convinced. His town reads being only you and Ty also feels like he's keeping a wide net open. I'll see how he does the rest of the day.
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That he would invite him to Gossip? Otherwise no.
Yep. That makes me very tempted to really focus elsewhere knowing thats possible.
So I think I figured out what's bothering me about Thorny but I don't know what conclusion to draw from it. Her vote on me was a misreading of what was going on but she didn't change or even reevaluate when pointed out, she just kept it there. With Zeke today she was again implying that he said something he did not and twisted it to a dislike.
So my struggle is whether or not I think she's doing that on purpose or just making bad assumptions and reads.
So my struggle is whether or not I think she's doing that on purpose or just making bad assumptions and reads.
Verelios
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I definitely saw when she did it to you. With Zeke, did you mean when she said he could confirm Swamped's role?
They won't copy over here great but look at the exchange from #662-668. Say what you want about Zeke's play but he never said he had a strong town read on Swamped, she twisted things there. He was solely focused on the claim, it was the claim that got him to try to switch to you.
Also the more I think about it, if they were paired wouldn't Swamped had claimed just a few minutes earlier so Zeke could have explained better?
Also the more I think about it, if they were paired wouldn't Swamped had claimed just a few minutes earlier so Zeke could have explained better?
Verelios
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I have doubts that it was the claim that made him try to switch to me, but I agree that he didn't say strong town read. She was the only person he townread D1, but he never said strong.
As for the second, I don't like speculating on activity but Swamped claimed and voted for me the moment she appeared in thread and that was 3 minutes to EoD. I don't think she could have appeared earlier. That makes me think she 1). Didn't think she'd be on the chopping block and 2). Had the presence of mind to follow Zeke onto me.
Verelios
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I've been thinking about if I was wrong about Zeke and he's just a neutral hunter...it would make sense for him to desperately try and save Swamped when she claimed if he needed her for his WC. It also puts into another light him trying to fish out HPs role name and his high self-interest.
Yeah as soon as I wrote that I realized that I was way too snarky.
I have wondered if there would be a neutral in a game of this size. I can see that as a role, having to correct guess X amount of players.
Verelios
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Yeah, I'm wavering on my Zeke read and wondering if I should switch to Haw. I still think he's anti-town but not sure he's scum. Her last post felt too opportunistic.
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Yeah, a bit. Felt all over the place.
I really wanted to spend more time pushing Thorny I just got way too busy at work this afternoon. I'm not exactly sure on the pivot to Kopite, it felt like people had moved off of Hawthorn and Zeke and just wanted to go somewhere.
We'll see if Chugg follows through or not tonight.
We'll see if Chugg follows through or not tonight.
Verelios
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Yeah, I think it's fair to say Kop jailed Geno and Geno was telling the truth about being rbed.
BP is bulletproof right? What's the relation there?
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I'm going to say Chuggs doesn't follow through. The 'smart' thing to do would be to predict the NK and make Haw protect that person. If she doesn't or if they die then...got some explaining to do.
Ultimately it's a gamble on trust and daring. How much are they, mostly Chuggs if he's telling the truth, willing to bet on each other.
Verelios
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Yeah, smart move would be to deal with that and settle the dome. I understand why it happened, but really dislike the last minute swerve by all three of the TD participants with Kop gone. Maybe that's hindsight bias.
Verelios
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Survival mostly, but I can't tell why ATP and Ty started going hard for it.
Also weird that Zeke and Thorny both came off it rather than continuing to push for each other.
Verelios
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Gotta say, after scum reading each other all day the way they came together to plan and deviate the train away from themselves felt so bad. I think Haw is more understandable since she seemed like she'd do anything not to be the vote.
I think Zeke not really doing much work on any of the others he was in a dome with isn't a good look either, he bounced around based on what others were doing rather than build something himself. I mean he wasn't even voting for Hawthorn until I came out with my stuff.
Sigh...
Sigh...
Verelios
Were-elios
Zeke's first priority is Zeke. I asked him for a case on Kop and he pointed to Ty's vote.I think Zeke not really doing much work on any of the others he was in a dome with isn't a good look either, he bounced around based on what others were doing rather than build something himself. I mean he wasn't even voting for Hawthorn until I came out with my stuff.
Sigh...
Verelios
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Me too it seems.
Verelios
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Hm, yeah, they're easy miselims if we stop thinking. But I don't want to dismiss them you know? Like, they're not giving us much of anything to work with.
Well, ATP is giving us more today.
Verelios
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Yeah, probably. I got nothing on Zipped, like, he's blank to me aside that really weird EoD yesterday. He backed down on Zeke so quickly and changed to Haw...which was weird.
Yeah his probability stuff plus his lack of any real stance was a bit weird.
Verelios
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Hmmm, well let's see how he does under pressure rn. I'm lost on Zeke, I don't feel like Salva is it, ATP feels...okay?
Verelios
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Yeah, he does.
Do you really think Geno was rbed then? Uh...wait, could it be Ty was jailed?
Verelios
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Pretty much. Geno is probably telling the truth but I wonder how he matches with HP?
Verelios
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Her true nature overpowered her role.
Verelios
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I would need to go back and read but I don't remember Geno scumreading anyone D1?
Just one post of positive town reads, no scum reads.
Verelios
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Yeah, saw it now. It could really be anything then. Landing on scum without any prior contact is odd but I'm not sure if it's too odd, you know.
Verelios
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Chuggs did good yesterday. We would have been in a much worse position if people went at his head like they were rearing to.
It's probably just awkward phrasing but I'm going to WIFOM that bolded part.
Verelios
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I'm sitting here thinking, Zeke is not convincing me with these mechanics arguments. I really think he's going after Geno like this because Geno scumread him coming into today. Salva is obvious.
Look at who never talked about badly him and his reaction to them. He's cool with everyone else and Zipped is like...oh, yeah, I guess.
Look at who never talked about badly him and his reaction to them. He's cool with everyone else and Zipped is like...oh, yeah, I guess.
I think you called it here, first priority is himself second is his alignment.
Really hard to move forward without Zipped around. I can throw out some bad arguments to see if it brings discussion but knowing they are bad makes that doesn't seem like a worthwhile pursuit.
Verelios
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You would think we'd be getting more information in a bastard game >.>
Yeah, this is a very low information game. The supposed two cops are weak and can only really catch someone on a lie.
Verelios
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Maybe HP gives out a cop shot?
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You would think he'd come out stronger knowing how much fire he's under...hm.
Eh, the more I think about it his claimed role does complement ATP's claim. I can't imagine another neutral, if that's the case we have to only have one more scum.
I'm debating between Zipped and Geno, I just wish Zipped would do something to make me want to look elsewhere.
I'm debating between Zipped and Geno, I just wish Zipped would do something to make me want to look elsewhere.
Thinking back what Chugg said in our gossip chat, Geno would totally throw a random vote on a teammate who was under no pressure on D1 and sit there. Looking at his D1 and I know he was busy but there is one post with town reads, no posts with scum reads, and he throws out the first vote on Swamped with no explanation (and really I think I was the only one semi questioning her at that point). He claimed he was RB'd on N1 which could be explained from the jail depending on who was jailed, and then claimed to target Ty on N2 so now we have two nights where he supposedly has a confirmable role and has not been able to be confirmed. Beyond that he's being really passive, not really engaging, just sitting on the periphery really.
Verelios
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True.