Pair Thread THE LOVE BOAT... OF SUBMARINE!

[Submarine]

How I have reacted is not right no matter what, but especially as someone on the discord mod team and apart of game running.

 

[Submarine]

I locked myself outside of my car with even my wallet inside while at a job site and now have to wait on my car’s help service to unlock me.

I was supposed to go home and have a nice night with friends watching twin peaks and not worrying about shit and now I’m stuck on this god forsaken island with a phone battery slowly going down.

 

[Submarine]

I really wonder who scum is killing tonight… keeping in mind that basically anyone could be a suspect now, killing the wrong person will ruin their chances to mis elim. I guess Gondola is a good candidate if life really isn’t town?

I am going to WIFOM the hell out Lifeboat if they aren't the kill. On paper you should kill the green check at this point in time but there has been enough suspicion on that slot that I can see scum leaving them if they are town just so we do WIFOM it. Did Gondola say if they were only 3 shot or not? That's probably their safest kill so nothing gets picked up.

I really have no idea who it might be at this point. My gut tells me its Gondola/Lifeboat and Kayak/Yacht looking at D1 votes but I know how imprecise that is. Inflatable was wrong in their read on Beluga but I came to a lot of the same conclusions and their process was pretty pure.

 

[Submarine]

I kind of want to a do a stupid bait today.

 

[Submarine]

And by stupid I mean if it goes badly, which odds are it would, then we lose in humiliating fashion. But also on the 10% chance it works it would be really fun.

 

[Submarine]

Hey Bear, you forgot to tell us that we're dead.

 

[The Bear]

Hey Bear, you forgot to tell us that we're dead.

 

[Submarine]

And by stupid I mean if it goes badly, which odds are it would, then we lose in humiliating fashion. But also on the 10% chance it works it would be really fun.

If you think it'd be fun at least and let us go in a blaze of glory then do it LOL.

I'm going to be in and out today as I got work and like 45 minute drives and shit. I am mainly focused on not getting upset at Kayak so I may dip just to avoid them.

 

[Submarine]

If you think it'd be fun at least and let us go in a blaze of glory then do it LOL.

I'm going to be in and out today as I got work and like 45 minute drives and shit. I am mainly focused on not getting upset at Kayak so I may dip just to avoid them.

So it would be to vote for someone and then immediately be prepared to unvote the second someone else votes. In theory we could bait out the other team while they are trying to hammer, in reality the timing would be very difficult.

 

[Submarine]

Well its WIFOM time

 

[Submarine]

3 people around....

 

[Submarine]

one is def scum waiting for town to be idiots.

 

[Submarine]

yep

 

[Submarine]

Just thinking it out I think its Lifeboat and Yacht. LB is a GF, Yacht strongman or ninja.

 

[Submarine]

Yacht felt more paired to HB to me than Kayak did and as I have said, LB is just really scummy.

 

[Submarine]

I have really really really wondered if Kayak is just town Zeke focusing hard like he does

 

[Submarine]

Sounds like Yacht might be the one everyone agrees on.

 

[Submarine]

I agree that submarine is townie.

Here is a question. What does mafia houseboat get from throwing shade at submarine? To me it makes them seem more like a cautious townie.

I am very comfortable with my red read on kayak

that vote on houseboat is so hesitant and clause filled. It is half way through day 1. You don't need a good reason to vote for anyone but it seems like they were feeling exposed by not having a voted down. I honestly don't even know why they voted other than to fit in. I don't see how pressuring houseboat does anything but it looks like they are playing when they are not really engaged at all.

We're 2 away from majority on Housboat btw.

Not sure what to make of them tbh. The posts confusing the timeline do seem to be quite damning on a reread. Why not come forward with the clarification on their own if they knew it would be a source of confusion?

Also this post feels strangely doomerish:

I don't feel like there is a general sentiment against them but they seem to be convinced that if HB isn't voted out it's going to be them.

I am not 100% that Houseboat is town but I think it is way more likely that they the doctor than any fake claiming nonsense. Voting them today is ridiculous.

I read through Kayak's posts and there are no town vibes at all. it is all very stilted and strained. Someone who seems flustered and argumentative about everything. it is day 1. Townies should be chill

 

[Submarine]

damn wrong thread

 

[Submarine]

lol silly mistake number 3

 

[Submarine]

lol it was weird seeing you mention me by name.

 

[Submarine]

I’d point out Kayak has been putting suspicion on everyone all game too but whatever I’m ignoring him today :lamp:

 

[Submarine]

Kayak just won't let me feel comfortable with them.

 

[Submarine]

Kayak just won't let me feel comfortable with them.

I mean this is how they normally roll if I am right lol

 

[Submarine]

I am going to be busy for a few hours but I might throw down a LB vote later tonight if you are game. If I am wrong I would rather be wrong on something that I feel more strongly about, even if it's a bad play on paper.

Where are you landing right now?

 

[Submarine]

If I was scum I would go for an "accidental" partner chat slip here to try to sell it.

 

[Submarine]

I am going to be busy for a few hours but I might throw down a LB vote later tonight if you are game. If I am wrong I would rather be wrong on something that I feel more strongly about, even if it's a bad play on paper.

Where are you landing right now?

I honeslty have no clue, but I sort of see the argument for Yacht.

I’m hesitant to put down a vote just because if we are wrong scum may take advantage of it.

additionally I am almost at my client’s job site where I will be for the best 3 hours and able to put in mafia work.

Is there anything you want me to work on for now I am able to?

 

[Submarine]

The worst part about trying to find scum today is that if we somehow succeed today, I feel like some are going to come for us hard (I doubt scum will kill us lol) and I’m not looking forward to that.

But no matter! We gotta get scum first

 

[Submarine]

Never mind on me being able to work on the game today probably. My client is doing a new task and I can’t sit at my usual spot and watch him while he’s n my computer.

 

[Submarine]

I’ll have to do any actual isos or work when I get home which will be in like 5 hours from now.

 

[Submarine]

I honeslty have no clue, but I sort of see the argument for Yacht.

I’m hesitant to put down a vote just because if we are wrong scum may take advantage of it.

additionally I am almost at my client’s job site where I will be for the best 3 hours and able to put in mafia work.

Is there anything you want me to work on for now I am able to?

I definitely see the arguments for Yacht and I don't really disagree with them but I just feel like LB is more of a sure thing. Also everyone is fine for there and no pushback at all.

 

[Submarine]

Yeah I guess that’s true. It’s sort of like no push back with beluga yesterday too .

could me scum is taking advantage of yacht seeming scum all day

 

[Submarine]

They should be prepared to bus so I don't want to read too much into it but it does look odd.

 

[Submarine]

Posted my thoughts on yacht because I just don’t know there if they are scum or not

 

[Submarine]

Oh they are having him do boxes after all. Then I’m that case I can work on the game once they starts. I’ll start with looking at Lifeboat, Yacht, and Gondola again

 

[Submarine]

Congrats your name has changed from Sunmariner 3 to sub sub lol

 

[Submarine]

I wanna know how LB could have ben baiting a cop check XD

 

[Submarine]

I'm supposed to be looking at reads while I can lol. But accross the street are some very cute birbs dirt bathing and it's so cuteeeeeeee

 

[Submarine]

And now there's a cute little fox sparrow below me x3 Birbsssss so much cuter that Mafia Isos.

 

[Submarine]

oooh right LB was the boat where I thought wee might be. lol

 

[Submarine]

I wanna know how LB could have ben baiting a cop check XD

They seemed to be acting incredibly scummy on D2 around Houseboat.

 

[Submarine]

Yeah I'm looking at this now. Basically they went from townreading HB after the claim on day 1, and continue to do so until Cruise claims doc then they auto flip on HB.

 

[Submarine]

But also still not sus of HB and humoring two docs??? okay then.

 

[Submarine]

dammnn I'm starting to lean LB with you.

 

[Submarine]

Yacht was consistent and I town read them even a bit now because of that. THey were on HB but looked at the situation with Cruise logically and went to HB. LB is just "yeah I guess Cruise is doc, but what if HB is too?!" and fishing like crazy lol.

 

[Submarine]

Yep

 

[Submarine]

Let me finish my read and make the post. I still want to look over the others but I'm willing to say we want to vote LB today. I wanna hear what the other say before we actually vote LOL.

 

[Submarine]

No problem. I am still mostly busy for a little longer, just had some spare time to jump in.

 

[Submarine]

glad no one is questioning why I'm around when I said I might be gone for 5 hours lol. Thank fuck for pizza boxes and someone being needed to make them is a thing otherwise I wouldn't be able to.

 

[Submarine]

Besides one half of Kayak I don't really have good guesses who the other players are and I haven't even really looked at the player list to figure it out. Been kinda nice.

 

[Submarine]

Besides one half of Kayak I don't really have good guesses who the other players are and I haven't even really looked at the player list to figure it out. Been kinda nice.

yeah while I feel like some players are obvious in who they are (Shirou as skiff sub) others aren't and that's part of the fun in the game in not knowing who is who.

 

[Submarine]

Yes Fate was definitely one half of Skiff.

 

[Submarine]

Anyways Lifeboat saying they townread someone because of us is sus as fuck because they haven't always townread us either

 

[Submarine]

Yes Fate was definitely one half of Skiff.

I thought it was him or Ephi doing a super good Shirou impression XD BUT I think she's part of Gondola as they had a replacement too. :< Hope they town. I will forgive her tho if she is scum.

 

[Submarine]

I thought it was him or Ephi doing a super good Shirou impression XD BUT I think she's part of Gondola as they had a replacement too. :< Hope they town. I will forgive her tho if she is scum.

I won't forgive her for not killing us.

 

[Submarine]

I won't forgive her for not killing us.

You better because she's my friend :Catcop: Mind you the replacement might have ben LP lol.

 

[Submarine]

... hmmm a town Motion detect might balance a scum GF. They could catch them doing the mafia kill at the very least which balances the cop being one shot.

 

[Submarine]

two pages and I will have finished my reread of LB. I may do Gondola next for Yacht's benefit since they asked for why I townread them lol.

 

[Submarine]

lol oh no. I got like 15 minutes before my client finishes work and Haven't made the post. I may need to stay behind a bit before I leave here for my last client. Also means the other iso have to wait.

 

[Submarine]

lol stayed here for 15 extra minutes but I did it Sub sub! I put out a read on LB.

 

[Submarine]

But frick tho, I hope we are right about LB. Would be embarrassing to lose the game because we voted the green check lol

 

[Submarine]

I am like 60/40 or 55/45 with Yacht. It does feel like they knew the claim would be fake but the rest wasn't as strong as I recalled it being.

 

[Submarine]

Lol then I guess I really will have to do that reread on yacht for sure.

also gondola thinking we are scum really really really makes me think scum is purposely keeping alive only only sus peeps but ones sus of us for the finale just in case. ;w; inflate town read us after all.

 

[Submarine]

I also can’t help but be a itty bitty annoyed with Fanto for how she acted with HB say one lol. The so called defense of HB was all her.

 

[Submarine]

But oh well.

 

[Submarine]

I also can’t help but be a itty bitty annoyed with Fanto for how she acted with HB say one lol. The so called defense of HB was all her.

When I was reading through I was constantly oof.gif a lot but that was with hindsight. I have certainly had bad reads of my own in the past that got me in trouble so I basically just chalk it up to this game is hard and shit happens.

 

[Submarine]

Whoever the scum are they have played well.

 

[Submarine]

When I was reading through I was constantly oof.gif a lot but that was with hindsight. I have certainly had bad reads of my own in the past that got me in trouble so I basically just chalk it up to this game is hard and shit happens.

Yep. Honeslty this has been my worst game reads wise. I rely a lot on my gut reads and usually I hit at least one scum but so far I’ve been wrong lol

 

[Submarine]

Whoever the scum are they have played well.

Yep.

 

[Submarine]

I think at this point I am going to sit back and see what the others do. Will ask questions and stuff but I kind of feel like we have been driving things a bit and I am curious to see other arguments.

 

[Submarine]

I am tired. i worked until 8 today and my brain is crying at the thought of rereading Gondola and Yacht since i already have read them.

I am happily not crying actually and am actually having a good time! I am feeling positive about playing mafia again and might not perm retire like I wanted lol. I will def avoid playing if i feel my emotions aren't up to it tho.

Anyways >> <<

I sort of want to chill tonight and maybe do the other reads tomorrow. I'll be more willing at 5:30 than 8!

 

[Submarine]

PLUS I secretly wanna see Yacht's big ole essay on Gondola they are promising. It might be better to wait on my post about them until after they do it

 

[Submarine]

PLUS I secretly wanna see Yacht's big ole essay on Gondola they are promising. It might be better to wait on my post about them until after they do it

It appears that we are still waiting for that one.

 

[Submarine]

The Gondola case from Yacht is ok but doesn't feel particularly strong. Then again, I am not sure my potential case against Yacht is super strong as well.

 

[Submarine]

Kayak...sigh

 

[Submarine]

I'm working from home because I have a bit of a upset stomach so I might be able to sneak into the game more than expected. However, I do need to work so not sure what I can do exactly lol.

 

[Submarine]

didn't particularly like LB's dig about "players who seemingly can't keep things civil"

 

[Submarine]

I'm in that bad spot where my mind has been mostly made and I start half-assing my isos because I just make them fit however I need them to go.

 

[Submarine]

I'm in that bad spot where my mind has been mostly made and I start half-assing my isos because I just make them fit however I need them to go.

I mean I was doing similar with Kayak lol.

 

[Submarine]

Also Yacht has done just enough today to cause me hesitation. I looked over Kayak on D1 again and they still don't quite seem paired with HB but also the half of that pairing that we think we know has been really good at distancing in the past so I'm trying to keep that in mind.

 

[Submarine]

Also Yacht has done just enough today to cause me hesitation. I looked over Kayak on D1 again and they still don't quite seem paired with HB but also the half of that pairing that we think we know has been really good at distancing in the past so I'm trying to keep that in mind.

Yeahhhh I don't want Yacht honestly.

 

[Submarine]

I'm going to be busy most of the day tomorrow in case this goes to the deadline.

 

[Submarine]

I will not be busy so I can probably man the fort.

 

[Submarine]

I will not be busy so I can probably man the fort.

ooh wait. That'd require getting up early. Nooooooo I don't want that.

 

[Submarine]

Don't have to get up early if you never go to bed....

 

[Submarine]

Don't have to get up early if you never go to bed....

good point. It's that or we end the day phase today before I go to bed lol.

 

[Submarine]

welp.

 

[Submarine]

I think that's gg

 

[Submarine]

That's a game potentially.

 

[Submarine]

lol if Yacht is scum.



I feel like we fucked. There's no way they don't vote us tomorrow for defending Yacht.

I sort of hope Yacht is town and I was right about that shit. Because then I can vindicated and not blame the loss on myself.

 

[Submarine]

No truffleshuffle at least?

 

[Submarine]

No truffleshuffle at least?

lol Either case. It's been fun Sub Sub. You really helped a lot in keeping me sane. I hope my outburts didn't ruin the fun for you.

 

[Submarine]

I'm going to constantly refresh until I see the flip. I gotta know.

 

[Submarine]

Tho I should be working lol.

 

[The Bear]

We can start D6 as soon as night actions are here or in 23 hours. What approach would you prefer?

 

[Submarine]

Yacht was scum. Dammit I was wrong ;w; We getting yeeted tomorrow. *sets allarm for 11:30 so I can be there to defends us against them.* I very much doubt I can convince them not to vote us out tomorrow but I will try sub sub ;w;

 

[Submarine]

We can start D6 as soon as night actions are here or in 23 hours. What approach would you prefer?

Let's get it over with. "ghostblush: Plus this way sub sub is available. I know they are going to yeet us, but we need all hands on deck.

 

[Submarine]

I am good to go after the orders are in.

 

[Submarine]

:mothvibrate: I wonder who they will kill.

 

[Submarine]

It has to be Lifeboat if they are town right? We are the only ones majorly scumreading that slot. Scum has a better push of us as scum than LB.