Scum Thread OH NO! IT IS THE DEN OF THE LOVELESS!
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Gondola
Costume
LOL :parmesan:
Houseboat
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Yeah that's my guess too, now I feel bad :cor:
Houseboat
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I am also destressing, we don't need to worry about night actions just yet but do think about them. Personally I like to put in temp actions sooner than later in the case we forget, you can always change them as much as needed later.
I'm open to performing the kill tonight, but I'm also open to doing nothing. That way if I get tracked I can say I tried to use my doctor ability on someone but I guess it failed because I guessed wrong. Tracking the claimed doctor is pretty bad form and basically a waste of a track shot though so I don't know, depends who rolled tracker I guess. Alternatively, strongman can do the kill so it isn't wasted in case they're offed tomorrow or vigged overnight.
I think Submarine, Rubber Duck, Jet Ski are good kill candidates. Jet Ski and Kayak are good Role Cop candidates since we are pretty sure we know their identities.
I'm starting to think Jet Ski is both Chuggs and Sorian which is a terrifying combination.
I'm open to performing the kill tonight, but I'm also open to doing nothing. That way if I get tracked I can say I tried to use my doctor ability on someone but I guess it failed because I guessed wrong. Tracking the claimed doctor is pretty bad form and basically a waste of a track shot though so I don't know, depends who rolled tracker I guess. Alternatively, strongman can do the kill so it isn't wasted in case they're offed tomorrow or vigged overnight.
I think Submarine, Rubber Duck, Jet Ski are good kill candidates. Jet Ski and Kayak are good Role Cop candidates since we are pretty sure we know their identities.
I'm starting to think Jet Ski is both Chuggs and Sorian which is a terrifying combination.
Gondola
Costume
Hi, I'm the new half-a-Gondola, same as the old half-a-Gondola but three times more likely to get scum read.
I'm Ephi. We can work out overnight if I attempt to cosplay wearing the skin of my former self or admit I'm a replacement or *whatever* during this night phase.
I need to read the game thread, I have not yet done so. At all.
But hi.
I'm Ephi. We can work out overnight if I attempt to cosplay wearing the skin of my former self or admit I'm a replacement or *whatever* during this night phase.
I need to read the game thread, I have not yet done so. At all.
But hi.
Houseboat
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I think that's just WIFOM so we don't need to worry about being obvious. Like half the game was on Yacht at one point.
I do think we should kill a town leader type player, don't worry about protection.
Houseboat
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Houseboat
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Rubber Duck was one of the options I was bandying about. I disagree on Submarine, since they were very against voting for us, and it might help to help such a player in the game for a bit longer.
Houseboat
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Yeah that's true. I think we won't get much guff tomorrow but Day 3 the heat will really turn up. Having more folks in our corner could be useful then. The issue with Submarine is if they keep this up they will absolutely not be voted out and they can be a pivotal town leader. They were also okay with voting Yacht.
Gondola
Costume
Yeah i think we kill one of the high post counts for sure. Would be inclined to leave sub since they didn't want houseboat at all and also town might have less faith in them tomorrow anyway. I'd probably shoot jet ski tbh without looking back at all the reads, unless we think they get heat for the last minute vote
Gondola
Costume
Aw hey ephi! Just a friendly neighbour chatcover here :parmesan: sorry to see you go EC
Houseboat
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:walter:
Houseboat
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The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Maybe Gondola is the friends we made along the way.
Gondola
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The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
That's not very friendly! What are you, Loveless?
Houseboat
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Houseboat
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The pfps all look very similar to me, the only ones that stick out in my mind are Submarine for being darker blue, Kayak for having red, and Beluga for not being a boat
I keep making sure to check the names so I know who I'm talking about/to
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
If Genesis appears in Rebirth I'm blaming you :crying:.
Houseboat
Costume
That's boatist.
Houseboat
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Gondola
Costume
I'm notoriously bad at looking for this kind of thing, did anyone pick up any crumbs? Otherwise i guess we just role cop whoever. If it makes sense as someone we could claim later as checking as alignment cop bonus points but i don't think it matters too much. We definitely can check kayak, tbh i think i could guess someone off of most boats
Yacht
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Open to discussion on it.
Seems to believe it.
Some concern it could be a fake claim and an urge to suppress a counter.
1st half of Sub seems to think it is not credible.
Seems to take claim at face value.
Considering the counter claim situation.
2nd half of sub liked it too.
A bit more nonchalant with a wait-and-see approach.
Considering both sides of the claim.
Does go and make a vote assuming the claim can be true.
Doesn't really believe in it as a fake claim.
Not a big direct reaction to the claim, but does talk about scum knowing HB would flip town.
Cruise didn't react directly but did use the flip as a town tell in basing their vote.
Inflatable was the last to the party and thus most able to see that it wasn't worth contesting.
Unlikely docs
Skiff, Sub, Duck
Less likely
Jet Ski, Lifeboat
More muted reactions
Belgua, kayak, Cruise, Inflatables
Of course I'm not even sure we would want to off a protective tonight since it would be better to have contention in the thread.
Yacht
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Would kill
Jet Ski, Sub
Mid-tier
Duck, Beluga, Inflatable
Wouldn't kill
Kayak, Lifeboat, Skiff, Cruise
Defintely want to off people with the most presence
Thinking HB is the best one to submit the kill. Unlikely to be tracked / blocked, ok if watched (strong went through). We could use our strong as well, but a no kill isn't a disaster with a claimed doc.
Don't have much thoughts on role cop yet. I think there are 2 main decisions to make:
1. picking whichever boat we are most concerned about and trying to find the player vs. picking a boat we have a good guess on the player
2. Role copping someone we want to kill soon vs role copping someone we are not thinking about killing to see if we should worry about them
For 1, I'd lean more on the sure hit with a "solved" slot.
For 2, I'm fine with either.
Jet Ski, Sub
Mid-tier
Duck, Beluga, Inflatable
Wouldn't kill
Kayak, Lifeboat, Skiff, Cruise
Defintely want to off people with the most presence
Thinking HB is the best one to submit the kill. Unlikely to be tracked / blocked, ok if watched (strong went through). We could use our strong as well, but a no kill isn't a disaster with a claimed doc.
Don't have much thoughts on role cop yet. I think there are 2 main decisions to make:
1. picking whichever boat we are most concerned about and trying to find the player vs. picking a boat we have a good guess on the player
2. Role copping someone we want to kill soon vs role copping someone we are not thinking about killing to see if we should worry about them
For 1, I'd lean more on the sure hit with a "solved" slot.
For 2, I'm fine with either.
Yacht
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Also welcome Ephi! We had a rough day one but still plenty of time to turn things around.
I was wondering if town replacements would announce themselves since most folks are concealing their identity (whether out of caution or just for fun)
I was wondering if town replacements would announce themselves since most folks are concealing their identity (whether out of caution or just for fun)
Yeah the problem became that everyone else took houses side so it just stood out more to want to stay on there. I think we have some distance but it's hard to figure which one of the two of us will go first. I guess since HB will struggle to get to endgame we'd want to start thinking about not looking like a bus. Someone like Jet Ski has me the most afraid they'd pull on that thread.
Gondola
Costume
Hmm. I don't necessarily want to come into the day just *announcing* myself as "new" just because that's not how I play costume games.
Additionally it's not how most people in this game are even approaching this game.
I love me some costumed game hijinks and I'm pretty sure people know me attempting to pull some bullshit with a costume account would be pretty nai
But I can also see why others including you might think I should have learnt better by now.
There's also that based on our role if someone else has something similar it paints a far smaller target on meus -- the replacement list was short, I'm obviously not sparks, etc.
I'll defer to your judgement.
Drawing unnecessary heat getting caught in that obvious lie wouldn't be fair to you.
Because I confess, fun though it might be to think about, as I read through the thread my former self's posts ring clear and distinct from the ones they did not post.
I don't think I've played enough games with them nor do I know them well enough to fake being them. I'm not good enough or cute enough.
Gondola
Costume
Gonna be honest, there was a read post from Lifeboat that flagged them as a concern to me, but they have enough doubt about other people too that I don't know they feel like the right kill for tonight.
Also it's faint but if they die now there might be a risk they'll be listened to more than if they're alive.
Also it's faint but if they die now there might be a risk they'll be listened to more than if they're alive.
Gondola
Costume
Yeah, I think the Gondola speaks with the one voice on this one, I would do Jet Ski. If the rest of you think someone is more pressing then fair but I think that's a good kill. Even though the flip was town they probably don't get too much heat for the last minute vote move at EoD onto Galleon since they very loudly called out that they were going to.
Gondola
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lmfao not cute enough :cor: you can be as cute as you want Ephi, don't let the wotld tell oyu otherwise. I wouldn't pretend to be Kyan but tbh I don't think it really matters if you say or not. Someone wil probably notice eventually and it'll be a good meme when they do. The only reservation i can think of is the realistic part that people do read into replacements (even though they should not) and if they think we were hiding it that might work into certain assumptions. BUT. Our account is in a good place right now other than being on a bad elim which half the game was, and they don't know if it was TvS for sure yet.
Gondola
Costume
Houseboat/Yacht we probably want to get an action in for the kill next time you all are around since this game starts on the early end for a bunch of you. It would be good to get that strong man used, if there's a vig in this game i absolutely would shoot that slot to clear up the wagons lol but yacht would be a good track candidate as well so fine enough if you think houseboat is a better pick to do the kill.
Gondola
Costume
Thinking about these two lists re: who to role cop, if we want to check someone we aren't planning to kill for a bit/and someone quieter who could be a good role, there's crossover between the two tiers with Kayak and Cruise. We definitely can check kayak no doubt. I think Cruise Ship has ATP on it, 90% chance of a check working there. I should probably put down my notes on guesses in case I just randomly evaporate at night end
Gondola
Costume
sorry let me try that again lol
Thinking about the possible doc list and the kill list Yacht put up: re: who to role cop, if we want to check someone we aren't planning to kill for a bit/and someone quieter who could be a good role, there's crossover between the two tiers with Kayak and Cruise. We definitely can check Kayak no doubt. I think cruise ship has ATP on it, 90% chance of a check working there. I should probably put down my notes on guesses in case I just randomlu evaporate at night end
Thinking about the possible doc list and the kill list Yacht put up: re: who to role cop, if we want to check someone we aren't planning to kill for a bit/and someone quieter who could be a good role, there's crossover between the two tiers with Kayak and Cruise. We definitely can check Kayak no doubt. I think cruise ship has ATP on it, 90% chance of a check working there. I should probably put down my notes on guesses in case I just randomlu evaporate at night end
Gondola
Costume
alright for most boats I think I had a good idea who at least one voice was
Inflatable Boat - Ael
Kayak - Zeke and either zook or zipp - z-core either way
sub - think this could be thorny and loki
Lifeboat - this felt like faddy to me a bunch of times
Galleon - wee was on there I'm sure
Cruiseship - ATP
Skiff - I think sneeks made that meme, the partner seemed like they were not around at all so I would guess nin maybe
duck - didn't have a good feel for this one
beluga - Vere?
Jet Ski - I think Chuggs and Sorian could be here
That would leave VA, Nat, Fran, Malus, Fanto, Ty
Struggling with duck a little, maybe fanto is on this?
Inflatable Boat - Ael
Kayak - Zeke and either zook or zipp - z-core either way
sub - think this could be thorny and loki
Lifeboat - this felt like faddy to me a bunch of times
Galleon - wee was on there I'm sure
Cruiseship - ATP
Skiff - I think sneeks made that meme, the partner seemed like they were not around at all so I would guess nin maybe
duck - didn't have a good feel for this one
beluga - Vere?
Jet Ski - I think Chuggs and Sorian could be here
That would leave VA, Nat, Fran, Malus, Fanto, Ty
Struggling with duck a little, maybe fanto is on this?
Gondola
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Yacht
Costume
Not sure how much of this was directed to other Gondola but I think changing voices without addressing it directly makes sense.
Yeah we are prob dead to a vig if one exists but nobody posting a spinny revolver gif so we're totally safe right?
Agreed on Jet Ski here, will defer to @Houseboat on who should submit. Strong is better if we fear protection on Jet Ski or a vig whereas no movement on us is better against a tracker.
It would be funny / chaotic. Maybe we can wait a little into the day phase to see how people feel going into the day and if a real sparks emerges?
Yacht
Costume
Bolding the ones I think are 90% and underscored the name I feel is strongly where there are 2.
Lifeboat and cruiseship are interesting to me, I was kinda viewing lifeboat as ATP based on an early comment here but you would know them better. Faddy does sound plausible though. I thought Ty could be one half of Cruise.
Sub is playing like a Vanilla I think.
Gondola
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Oh wait there was the cringe comment from lifeboat lmao i thought that was cruiseship, now I'm not sure. I could see Ty on Cruise with the games done quick reference, I think he likes that kind of stuff.
Sub as vanilla would make sense, although tbh if I were town I wouldn't let a good role stop me posting frequently and giving reads. If Kyan had posted at the same frequency as me yesterday I think i would have been one of the top posters lol
Gondola
Costume
Doing some isos to try and keep a good grip on the game.
- the only real loud town read Inflatable gave was jet ski, they didn't like yacht but they liked beluga whale less, also didn't like cruise ship (who did a lot of the galleon push beside sub). Didn't quite say it out loud but does seem to dislike the sub town reads at times. Could get stick for being quite hard on houseboat but a lot of folks did so that might not be the easiest point.
- kayak is a bit of a mess. Sheeps the houseboat vote then the yacht vote, in a kind of backwards order and quite self consciously. Zeke is more consistent with what you expect but does try to get Beluga to start an inflatable wagon at EoD while on yacht, so that could be exploited if yacht flips at some point as an attempt to start a new wagon but too worried about optics to get off the bus. This account literally gives no town reads all day phase, and I pinged them for some at least twice.
- Life Boat liked Sub but did present a bit of a conspiracy theory about scum chat in regards to them. One half felt towny with Duck. Felt Jet Ski posted some real towny stuff. Wanted Yacht or Galleon early on but ended up pivoting to Kayak for partner 1's votes. Would be less interested in Kayak if Yacht flipped red after Kayak's vote on them, mentioned above where that could be turned around logically. This account was never that interested in the houseboat stuff. Not 100% on them but thought the claim was way more likely to be correct. By the end had yacht as top scum beside Galleon so expect this one to be after Yacht unless something about EoD changed their mind.
- the only real loud town read Inflatable gave was jet ski, they didn't like yacht but they liked beluga whale less, also didn't like cruise ship (who did a lot of the galleon push beside sub). Didn't quite say it out loud but does seem to dislike the sub town reads at times. Could get stick for being quite hard on houseboat but a lot of folks did so that might not be the easiest point.
- kayak is a bit of a mess. Sheeps the houseboat vote then the yacht vote, in a kind of backwards order and quite self consciously. Zeke is more consistent with what you expect but does try to get Beluga to start an inflatable wagon at EoD while on yacht, so that could be exploited if yacht flips at some point as an attempt to start a new wagon but too worried about optics to get off the bus. This account literally gives no town reads all day phase, and I pinged them for some at least twice.
- Life Boat liked Sub but did present a bit of a conspiracy theory about scum chat in regards to them. One half felt towny with Duck. Felt Jet Ski posted some real towny stuff. Wanted Yacht or Galleon early on but ended up pivoting to Kayak for partner 1's votes. Would be less interested in Kayak if Yacht flipped red after Kayak's vote on them, mentioned above where that could be turned around logically. This account was never that interested in the houseboat stuff. Not 100% on them but thought the claim was way more likely to be correct. By the end had yacht as top scum beside Galleon so expect this one to be after Yacht unless something about EoD changed their mind.
Gondola
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Skiff - this account is just a meme. Didn't want to vote Duck, sub, gondola or Yacht. Seems like they'd like to go after lifeboat if given the chance and wouldn't be surprised if they go back to that. Believed houseboat consistently so they don't really want any of us. Think Galleon is being performative in their vote post but goes with yacht in relation to a suspected life boat connection so kind of does go back on it's reads but I would probably leave this account alone for now in any erious manner since it seems good with all of us (and it's genuinely amusing) and might look bad on a houseboat or gondola flip. Might look better to town on a yacht flip.
Houseboat
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Kill: Jet Ski
Just putting this in so we don't forget. If we want to strong instead we can switch whenever.
If I get tracked to Jet Ski I'm doomed but that's okay.
Also we can put in commands for each other. Feel free to put commands in for me if I'm not around I won't be bothered.
I don't think Yacht should pretend to have replaced because I don't really know the ethics of that but if Bear says it's okay then go for it if you like.
Yeah Lifeboat might contain ATP with that cringe comment lmao
Just putting this in so we don't forget. If we want to strong instead we can switch whenever.
If I get tracked to Jet Ski I'm doomed but that's okay.
Also we can put in commands for each other. Feel free to put commands in for me if I'm not around I won't be bothered.
I don't think Yacht should pretend to have replaced because I don't really know the ethics of that but if Bear says it's okay then go for it if you like.
Yeah Lifeboat might contain ATP with that cringe comment lmao
Gondola
Costume
I just want to note it was actually Bear who brought it up -- it was in the day start flavour.
Which marks inflatable as someone who reads it. I know not everyone does. I don't know if any of you know people who are more likely to. Gamerunners, probably.
I have no idea what reference you're referring to, but I've seen Sneeks and Zipped post about it before.
Just a general note that despite what you said those are both actually sub #2's reactions (the italics got knocked off the first quote but they're in the original post).
Houseboat
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I totally missed that. But yeah I'm even more sure it's Vere now, he's the type to both read the flavour and make the joke.
Gondola
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- Cruise ship actually doesn't post much at all. Had that thing where they thought sub was exploiting the game that could be characterised as throwing shade. Liked Sub after that though, Jet Ski, Gondola, did not like Galleon. Started out fine with houseboat then shakier but really was just focused on Galleon most of the day. There really isn't much else here so with the galleon town flip this one that could be pushed especially if they don't have a strong day today
Gondola
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will we guess kayak? that makes sense as a cop check too imo if we claim that later. if anyone asks why we didn't check someone more important to clear up like lifeboat can just say we hadn't the foggiest who it was and didn't want to waste the opportunity and that we figured the claimed doc would solve itself
Gondola
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Inbuilt excuses \o/
Houseboat
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Yeah that works. If we're correct that Kayak is Zeke I'd like to check there because Zeke is a bit of a wildcard. He can be a really strong town leader that practically wins the game for town, or he can muck things up a bit, depending on the game. If he's vanilla I'd be more willing to leave him alive.
Yacht
Costume
Beluga - makes puns, understood a tumblr reference, questioned for clarification a few times, feels like one voice is more prominent.
Lifeboat - one voice sound more enthusiastic/ goofy e.g the opening about lifeboats at the front and back, one is a bit more cynical (the cringe comment) used the phrase "doomerish". Cautious around the claim. Sometimes puts words in CAPS. Comment about gondola making a tie is a bit snarky. Concern with breaking a tie.
Cruise ship - concerned with the spirit of the costume game, understood a gacha reference, thinks inconsistencies can be a crutch, mentioned a language barrier around exploit, watches gdq, early ISO on Galleon which they wanted feedback on as a case
Duck - one half likes light mode, other does not. Said role playing was too nerdy to be scum. Posted the launchpad meme. Used the phrase "concern trolling". Talked about boosting their ego in the post game. Used "scummies" for mafia. Mentioned ISOing people. One voice uses lowercase and skips punctuation including contractions on I'm and don't but unclear if this is an affectation for differentiated.
Beluga: Vere makes sense as the main voice, VA could be the second ("took the words out of my spout", "glad my partner isn't a stiff' seem like his voice)
Lifeboat: Faddy/ATP fits nicely I think.
Cruise: Ty for the main voice, Fran for the second IMO.
Duck: yeah, I don't know. Looking at the leftover names could be Natiko but this would be a shot in the dark.
I feel good we could role cop 7/9 or 8/9 of the roster tho.
Lifeboat - one voice sound more enthusiastic/ goofy e.g the opening about lifeboats at the front and back, one is a bit more cynical (the cringe comment) used the phrase "doomerish". Cautious around the claim. Sometimes puts words in CAPS. Comment about gondola making a tie is a bit snarky. Concern with breaking a tie.
Cruise ship - concerned with the spirit of the costume game, understood a gacha reference, thinks inconsistencies can be a crutch, mentioned a language barrier around exploit, watches gdq, early ISO on Galleon which they wanted feedback on as a case
Duck - one half likes light mode, other does not. Said role playing was too nerdy to be scum. Posted the launchpad meme. Used the phrase "concern trolling". Talked about boosting their ego in the post game. Used "scummies" for mafia. Mentioned ISOing people. One voice uses lowercase and skips punctuation including contractions on I'm and don't but unclear if this is an affectation for differentiated.
Beluga: Vere makes sense as the main voice, VA could be the second ("took the words out of my spout", "glad my partner isn't a stiff' seem like his voice)
Lifeboat: Faddy/ATP fits nicely I think.
Cruise: Ty for the main voice, Fran for the second IMO.
Duck: yeah, I don't know. Looking at the leftover names could be Natiko but this would be a shot in the dark.
I feel good we could role cop 7/9 or 8/9 of the roster tho.
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Costume
I thought Duck might be Fran or Faddy, the ego comment feels like something they would say. They are also both posters who are fine with absolutes "too nerdy" etc. I think the punctuation is purely to distinguish between voices and not related to their normal, un-costumed posting style.
Gondola
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Beluga - this account liked Sub, gondola, lifeboat yesterday, initially didnt like yacht and houseboat + kayak, inflatable and skiff, REALLY did not like kayak and ended up flipping to feeling good on yacht and was fine with the houseboat claim. Would expect this one to go after Kayak again or maybe inflatable. Yacht might be on the radar but I don't think the main push
Gondola
Costume
lmao :sicko:
alright cool seems everyone is good with Kayak and I agree with the assessment on Zeke
Guess: Kayak, EzekelRAGE
I actually have no idea if that's how this action is intented to be entered lol
Yacht
Costume
Ah good catch, I had this quote for sub #1 but thought it was extraneous
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Okay I caught up and saw HB claim doc. I was really starting to like their posts so I like 2 am more willing to believe their claim.
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Gondola
Costume
yeah I think we've done a good job here lol
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Command input like it works well enough!
Yacht
Costume
Good with role cop on kayak. I think the group jet ski sussed for having a lower profile (cruise + inflatable) as well as beluga could also be good targets in the future since they might be trying to stay out of the spotlight. Lifeboat could be a good pick soon as well, they actually are making some good points and it would be handy to know if we should prioritise them.
Beluga vs Kayak might be good noise for tomorrow.
How sus do we feel town in general would be at HB surviving? Would they want to resolve then or wait one more day?
Beluga vs Kayak might be good noise for tomorrow.
How sus do we feel town in general would be at HB surviving? Would they want to resolve then or wait one more day?
Gondola
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Just did a read through on duck and ther'es basically nothing there which is surprising, I remmebered them being active but in terms of actual firm reads it's basically just not liking houseboat all day and then voting yacht with a brief "they look sus". This one might be good to reference later in the game if yatch flips and they're still there, could look like scum jumping on a bus after their easy push evaporated.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
I'm confused by the wording of the question. What do you mean?
Yacht
Costume
A boat has player X and player Y in the costume account. Player X replaces out and player Z takes over half the account.
If Gondola wanted to role cop this boat, would guesses for any of {X, Y, Z} be valid or only the current pair {Y,Z}
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
X, Y and Z would all be valid answers in this case.