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That's a fun roster for the game, wondering how folks from different communities will interact.
Btw Hedin, I can see some Moderation options in this forum, you may want to check privileges again? Unless "Delete Thread" is supposed to be there. Won't complain if you leave my shadow mod powers intact tho.
Btw Hedin, I can see some Moderation options in this forum, you may want to check privileges again? Unless "Delete Thread" is supposed to be there. Won't complain if you leave my shadow mod powers intact tho.
Huh that's weird. I don't see anything unusual in your user settings or in the thread settings that would cause that. I will have to get the boss man to look at it.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
I think there was a Nesquick cereal way back when - never had it myself (I was a Coco Pops kid), but I remember it being around. Maybe it was just a UK/EU thing?
I also learned today that they stopped making Sugar Puffs years ago. Thankfully, the Honey Monster's still around, so it's not a total loss.
I also learned today that they stopped making Sugar Puffs years ago. Thankfully, the Honey Monster's still around, so it's not a total loss.
Must be nothing to worry about then.
Anyways, to the point: I loved Nesquick as a kid. Thank you.
But the cereal version was meh iirc.
Liking the vibe so far, they're slowly getting serious but the thread is still v chill. On that note Maol and yzma stand out in a good way imo with more direct questions/comments. Would like to see more from the latter especially. And also Nat, he always brings in some great insights. Aaand also from Alloy, interested in how that slot develops.
Hisoka pinged me for asking Alterable something he had answered already iirc. Probably not w/w. Can't tell if the Fran push is genuine but I'd understand it from someone without previous meta. Otherwise he looks town, I'd agree.
laoni reads towny in tone, but is approaching things differently this time around. Despite this being Closed I'd expect her to try and speculate setup a bit. Someone warned her in a different chat? Then again it'd be weird of non-town!laoni to willingly bring up the point as that highlights the contrast even more for no reason at all.
Liking Akane so far. Willingness to share early thoughts on all players is something that wolves are more wary of imo, especially if they're unfamiliar with the meta of the roster. They'd be more inclined to focus on a few folks and call it a day, so they don't have to worry that much about consistency later on. Let's see where that goes, as Mao said.
Can't shake the feeling Wiz is/was being set up. By who exactly idk tho. It may be whatever honestly, Wiz always feels towny to me.
Btw where is Ty? I thought he wanted to play/would enjoy spectating at least. I need his MU-knowledgeable commentary.
Hisoka pinged me for asking Alterable something he had answered already iirc. Probably not w/w. Can't tell if the Fran push is genuine but I'd understand it from someone without previous meta. Otherwise he looks town, I'd agree.
laoni reads towny in tone, but is approaching things differently this time around. Despite this being Closed I'd expect her to try and speculate setup a bit. Someone warned her in a different chat? Then again it'd be weird of non-town!laoni to willingly bring up the point as that highlights the contrast even more for no reason at all.
Liking Akane so far. Willingness to share early thoughts on all players is something that wolves are more wary of imo, especially if they're unfamiliar with the meta of the roster. They'd be more inclined to focus on a few folks and call it a day, so they don't have to worry that much about consistency later on. Let's see where that goes, as Mao said.
Can't shake the feeling Wiz is/was being set up. By who exactly idk tho. It may be whatever honestly, Wiz always feels towny to me.
Btw where is Ty? I thought he wanted to play/would enjoy spectating at least. I need his MU-knowledgeable commentary.
I don't know about the wallposting comments, there's been what, four or five? Like, Champ games are way more unmanageable with larger cases and like 3x the posts. Guessing MU folks just prefer shorter, more lively chatting. Interesting difference.
The "Alloy is someone we know with an alt" speculation has weird vibes. They don't seem to want it and I believe it wouldn't fly on a regular game at Era. It's also explicitly against the site rules, with one potential exception I'm not really sure about. MU is way more open to that stuff, but Alloy didn't seem like a regular with that "Sir Chris" mention. So I thought they most likely were someone from outside that'd be in a bit of a unique position in the middle of the two "groups" in the game.
I'd be pushing Alterable for the "clear me" self-awareness if I was in there rn. It also made me wonder if he's running interference for Wiz or malus, trying to divide votes to weaken wagons. He said he's panicking tho so, maybe carefully? Hope he's having a good time anyways.
Also hope Nat's alright. Guessing nin may be replacing out too?
The "Alloy is someone we know with an alt" speculation has weird vibes. They don't seem to want it and I believe it wouldn't fly on a regular game at Era. It's also explicitly against the site rules, with one potential exception I'm not really sure about. MU is way more open to that stuff, but Alloy didn't seem like a regular with that "Sir Chris" mention. So I thought they most likely were someone from outside that'd be in a bit of a unique position in the middle of the two "groups" in the game.
I'd be pushing Alterable for the "clear me" self-awareness if I was in there rn. It also made me wonder if he's running interference for Wiz or malus, trying to divide votes to weaken wagons. He said he's panicking tho so, maybe carefully? Hope he's having a good time anyways.
Also hope Nat's alright. Guessing nin may be replacing out too?
It's been kinda interesting to see how people from either community repeat "I'll leave that slot to the folks that actually know them" and so in a mixed group like this, regular meta still prevails somehow.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Very interesting playing with the people from MU, but it was certainly a culture shock at first. Creating alts to use different play styles is a funny concept to me.
The site functions are also really cool. It took me a while to find out how to unvote after I accidentally voted Wizard with the "reply with vote" button, lol.
The site functions are also really cool. It took me a while to find out how to unvote after I accidentally voted Wizard with the "reply with vote" button, lol.
Chaos mode has been activated.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Should I reach for the popcorn or the Corn Pops?
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
When I saw MU profiles had a form for alt accounts I really wanted Donnie to put Launch in his for the laugh.
The funny thing is I felt prepared pre-game that if I rolled scum I would play it differently enough to avoid having the sort of day 1 I just had after getting heat in my last 2 scum games early - in essence by making fewer and more pointed comments. And then I rolled town and threw that out the window deciding to just post freely and see what comes.
Sorry malus! There were points where I was like maybe you are fine but I was being a little selfish with my PR and thinking parking on a viable counter wagon wouldn't be the worse outcome. Turns out your role was a lot better than mine!
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Also interesting bit of game theory:
I understand the dogma behind no ties, move the game forward, keep the elims coming. But in a triple claim situation, is it actually beneficial to let things sit and go with an intentional tie or sleep/ no vote? Those claims have moved the game forward and they are probably more likely to be 2/3 town because 2/3 scum situations have better options in bussing / winning the tie. So by hitting into that pile you probably help scum more often than you hurt them and you increase the odds on a town PR doing something.
Or do you think it's still worth breaking? In any case would have been very hard to employ a strategic move here with the time crunch.
I understand the dogma behind no ties, move the game forward, keep the elims coming. But in a triple claim situation, is it actually beneficial to let things sit and go with an intentional tie or sleep/ no vote? Those claims have moved the game forward and they are probably more likely to be 2/3 town because 2/3 scum situations have better options in bussing / winning the tie. So by hitting into that pile you probably help scum more often than you hurt them and you increase the odds on a town PR doing something.
Or do you think it's still worth breaking? In any case would have been very hard to employ a strategic move here with the time crunch.
no you need the flip the claims don't move the game forward in a substantial enough way. You need to see the allegiances that were taken, the voting patterns, and the flip as it tell you if they are green or red and that tells you what they have been saying in thread is sincere and coming from the uninformed majority. I get your argument though it does feel a bit compelling. It would have been better if town could have switched to another wagon.
probably a better track target should be track people you don't have a clue on or null reads since if theoretically if we both lived the night we would have thunderdomed today. I was planning on claiming tracker too as soon as the thread opened. But I am terrible as scum.
Eh, I would track whoever I felt most suspicious of rather than a null.
Let's say you track player x that you suspected all of day 1 and you're a 2 shot tracker. it tells you no new information. It's basically, what's it called? moral dessert I think. You wanted the sweetness of being right. If you track player y instead it tell you their alignment and someone you can call town and look at the game with fresh eyes and a different perspective that you can trust.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
I did consider if it was wasteful but my plan was basically going to be hold my info and see if you claimed anything contradictory and then reveal about halfway through the day phase after people had a chance to believe or doubt your claim. I felt a little bit better about the odds of resolving the thunderdome correctly if I knew for sure where the lie was although if you went with "tracked wiz to the body" it'd be a tossup.
Suspicion for me is not confirmation. I have been suspicious of people and been totally wrong, I would wager most of us have been wrong far more than we've been right. For how I approach things I would want to try to find confirmation on my suspects. Stuff gets lost in the shuffle throughout the day so having a check helps to break through if you need to make an argument. I totally understand where you are coming from, I think it's more personal preference based on how you approach the game.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Also the funniest possibility with the yzma kill for me is that it was a serial killer but they don't want to claim it, so a scum mate of yzma claims it as a vig shot and the sk knows they are lying but can't call them out without blowing up their own spot.
If there's a town vig/"town friendly" SK - as I believe they'd need to be to have targeted yzma - I'd guess you wouldn't want to risk them catching you in a lie for fear of nightly retaliation.
I guess it just depends on the outcome of the games you've played. If finding town has worked more for you than hunting scum. The ev of this game might be a good analysis if 3 pr revealed end of day 1 with a no kill what would happen.
Liking tepig so far, no idea about his alignment tho.
Donnie feels slightly off, less jokey and more direct. Probably just because of the vote confusion? Can't shake the feeling that meanies would be a bit upset to lose the Strongman so early tho.
Also speculating these high numbers for the wolf team may be detrimental for town in late game, imo.
Donnie feels slightly off, less jokey and more direct. Probably just because of the vote confusion? Can't shake the feeling that meanies would be a bit upset to lose the Strongman so early tho.
Also speculating these high numbers for the wolf team may be detrimental for town in late game, imo.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Yeah you're right, realized after scum can't really take cred cause they don't want to show the real killer where they are. Guessing it goes unclaimed today and double kill down the line would clear it up
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
The feature to post reminders of earlier vote counts is a nice touch. If nothing else, those earlier figures from D1 tally with my policy of never trusting a train that seemingly pops up out of nowhere and suddenly brings a new player into the crosshairs - there's no guarantee that scum made it happen (after all, why do the dirty work when town can do it for you), but the train on Wiz saved Yzma's bacon, if only for a phase.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Those votes feel a bit too laidback to get a red flip today. Akane and Achro strongly +1ing Frans fairly minor observation of Yzma liking a Hisako post when the Hisako wagon had taken the lead feels like it could be something since it had been brought up before and overlooked and maybe that was just a convenient time to pump the brakes. Kinda like the Akane/Hisako theory Aeroyi is bringing but I think they need to show their work if they expect anyone to follow.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
you're supposed to target me for night kills during odd nights. you did it wrong
I’m sorry to disappoint but I really am not from around here
I figured you weren't with some terminology that you used which wouldn't typically be used here.
I wasn’t sure how to sort you so I had you as a little scummy, but not as scummy as yzma
I’m curious what terminology I used that looked out of place
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah hope that didn't weird you out or anything lmao. I actually had the same thought as a lot of them had before landing on that you were someone we were playing with for the first time. You have a very similar posting style to like 4 different people here imo
I remembered you referring something or someone as "wolfie" and I can't remember anyone here doing that, wolves really aren't in our terminology much.
I think I saw someone else mention wolves first, but I was trying to stick to words other people were using to keep things clear
I don’t really mind that you considered it but there’s not much else for me to say other than ‘no’. I wanted to stay focused on the game and not talk about ‘who is alloy really’
Thank you! I enjoy the image of the Quaker Oats guy just going around murdering everyone.
Welcome folks! I enjoyed reading your work in the second half of the phase.
Just caught up and D2 was v weird, yeah. I'm inclined to think there's non-town in the folks comfortably sitting back and posting just enough to get by, and wolves in at least one of the trusted players who control thread ambient with little opposition. Like, there has to be something in Mao/Fran/Donnie.
Also I didn't think Aeoryi was wolfy, but she overreacted to little pressure which was ???. Laoni is PoE but I really dig the effort, thanks for laying out stuff like that!
Don't think it's Hisoka, unless it's literally Hisoka/Fran. Which would be kinda blatant considering the defense.
HP would be asking for a mass claim right about now.
Just caught up and D2 was v weird, yeah. I'm inclined to think there's non-town in the folks comfortably sitting back and posting just enough to get by, and wolves in at least one of the trusted players who control thread ambient with little opposition. Like, there has to be something in Mao/Fran/Donnie.
Also I didn't think Aeoryi was wolfy, but she overreacted to little pressure which was ???. Laoni is PoE but I really dig the effort, thanks for laying out stuff like that!
Don't think it's Hisoka, unless it's literally Hisoka/Fran. Which would be kinda blatant considering the defense.
HP would be asking for a mass claim right about now.
Ain't much left to claim at this point. Also this scum team seems to want to punish claims (which as a member of the anti-claim faction I support) so that would be a little dangerous.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
It's that smirk on his face. You just know he's up to something.
Don't think they're all town, but I'm cheering for Fran, Laoni and tepig from now on. They've been nice to read for different reasons so, it'd be fun to see them win. You got this folks!
Off the top of my head the "Vig" may be one of Laoni/Mao/Achro (the self-pats would be so funny). Then you put in some protection, right? And that should be it, can't recall much more tbh.
Wouldn't stop him tho.
Off the top of my head the "Vig" may be one of Laoni/Mao/Achro (the self-pats would be so funny). Then you put in some protection, right? And that should be it, can't recall much more tbh.
There is a doc who has one more shot and then one other quasi protectionist role.
I didn't think they were going to get there. Getting Hisoka there keeps town in it, if they had missed today I don't know if they would have pulled it out.
Mulling going spoilers when the day starts so if you have guesses now might be a good time to get them in.
Mulling going spoilers when the day starts so if you have guesses now might be a good time to get them in.
I really didn't think it was going to be you today the way things were going, I thought you would get one more.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
I think Akane would still be my scum pick here based on the wagons. Yzma vote is a lone vote when discussion is focused on townies (me/malus), easy to redeem for points later. Was resistant on Hisako day 2 and joined that late today - though admittedly might have been able to swing it away from him without a bus.
If last scum is Achro I think town will be in big trouble because he gave so much momentum to two separate flipped scum elims on days with multiple viable candidates. If it's Akane it should be tough but possible.
SK is a trickier pick. Laoni is possible but I kinda bought the speculation / paranoia. Maybe CO/Tepig? I would be tempted to flip CO for missing a vote on two days, seems like they are okay being under scums radar.
If last scum is Achro I think town will be in big trouble because he gave so much momentum to two separate flipped scum elims on days with multiple viable candidates. If it's Akane it should be tough but possible.
SK is a trickier pick. Laoni is possible but I kinda bought the speculation / paranoia. Maybe CO/Tepig? I would be tempted to flip CO for missing a vote on two days, seems like they are okay being under scums radar.
Boo Berry was the hardest to write for so far. Had to Google "how to kill a ghost" (which I am sure the algorithm will enjoy) and then he doesn't have any catch phrases that I could use, the only thing is that the monsters typically would get scared by something else.
Flavor has been fun Hedin. Considerably more violent than I expected given the theme, but good anyways.
Kinda unrelated but I can't stop thinking there's evilness somewhere in Donnie/Mao/Fran. It just has to be, idk. Fran's kinda twtbaw tho, voting record is fun, D1 unvote and all.
Last two things I'm wondering about; will the w flip leave Laoni more space to maneuver? She was pretty good in what I skimmed of the last game, probably v dangerous if non-town. On that note, last meanie or the SK could very well get shot soonish. Pool's getting smaller and I'm not sure they've identified each other correctly.
I could see the case on Akane, but that'd be a bit bold to try in a game in which you're unfamiliar with half the roster imo. Altho it has given him a lot of cred indeed. There's also the fact that'd mean a whole non-Era team, NKs could be telling in that case, maybe?
Kinda unrelated but I can't stop thinking there's evilness somewhere in Donnie/Mao/Fran. It just has to be, idk. Fran's kinda twtbaw tho, voting record is fun, D1 unvote and all.
Last two things I'm wondering about; will the w flip leave Laoni more space to maneuver? She was pretty good in what I skimmed of the last game, probably v dangerous if non-town. On that note, last meanie or the SK could very well get shot soonish. Pool's getting smaller and I'm not sure they've identified each other correctly.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Yeah I feel like Fran unvoting on both his partners would be odd scum behavior. Hisoka abandoning a Fran case no one is following too.
It's funny to see how Mao has been chasing Donnie when they are next to each other on all the end of day wagons so far.
Well one of those is about to join us here....
I'm not sure why they killed you, didn't get an explanation. Alloy is not an Era alt.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
For full transparency that was not actually a crumb lol
Ok spoiler time:
Remaining scum: Archo
SK: Donnie
I think Donnie's only route to winning this if he get through this day is to kill Archo tonight, he's just found himself on the wrong side of the POE. If he kills Archo it might help his POE because I think most people seem to think he could be the last scum as opposed to the SK. I don't think town is getting Archo.
Remaining scum: Archo
SK: Donnie
I think Donnie's only route to winning this if he get through this day is to kill Archo tonight, he's just found himself on the wrong side of the POE. If he kills Archo it might help his POE because I think most people seem to think he could be the last scum as opposed to the SK. I don't think town is getting Archo.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Oof yeah Achro is a rough one, they navigated that well.
oh I had the feeling something wasn't right with donnie but I did not pick up sk. oops! all berries
Its now been 12 hours since there has been any game related posts. Even the all scum game had more posting than this.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Oh it’s gg scum alright
Well they didn't trade but one of them got got. I think town will be able to pull this out.
I decided to shoot into maol, town has this
I knew I wouldnt be likely to win a 2-1-1 lol
tried my best
I knew I wouldnt be likely to win a 2-1-1 lol
tried my best
donnie probably thought i was obv town lmao
;_;
;_;
Ngl I was really hoping for a 2-1-1 because I was fascinated how that might have turned out. I think you would have had a good chance of getting Donnie out before you (assuming of course Donnie had shot someone else). But yeah, I don't think Donnie can survive two eliminations.
I feel like you could’ve had a chance at getting donnie out over you. both of you had your best chance likely in a 2-1-1 scenario I think. it would be fun if sk wins still.
oh isn’t it still 3 v 1 anyway? so donnie just needs to not be voted today. everything will be more difficult for town to figure out because there is only sk left.
no I shot into the bp, it's 4-1
they are toast lol
they are toast lol