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I was wondering why scum didn't off Oscar either. Looks like they decided to off people Oscar had confirmed though (Charlie, then howdy died due to town poison though). The Topo giogio kill is random though

Actually...

@Oscar the Grouch please fully role claim, including limitations of your role and what each of your night actions was
 

Abby Cadabby

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I was wondering why scum didn't off Oscar either. Looks like they decided to off people Oscar had confirmed though (Charlie, then howdy died due to town poison though). The Topo giogio kill is random though

Actually...

@Oscar the Grouch please fully role claim, including limitations of your role and what each of your night actions was
Yeah. Topo death is weird. Re-reading and Oscar made their Charlie green check obvious (hindsight 20/20) but Mew had to have noticed it so why didn't Charlie die that night. Both Oscar and Charlie surviving is goofy.
 
==== DAY 6 VOTES ====
Day Start - Day End

Mr. Mew (5 votes)
Abby Cadabby - #1,541
Triumph the Comic Dog - #1,593
Lamb Chop - #1,604
Elmo - #1,606
Jeff Tracy - #1,613

Abby Cadabby (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #1,576

Not voting: Mr. Mew, Fozzie Bear

Post Counts:
Abby Cadabby: 25 Triumph the Comic Dog: 20 Elmo: 11 Jeff Tracy: 7 Mr. Mew: 5 Oscar the Grouch: 4 Lamb Chop: 3

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With a burst of courage in the 11th hour, the puppets decided that all 9 of Mr. Mew's lives were up.

Mr. Mew has died!

He was...
Welcome to Puppet Mafia!

You are Cait Sith. You are aligned with the Bad Puppets (that is, MAFIA).

Your team-mates are [REDACTED]. You share a chat with them and may talk with them at any time.

Your employer, Shinra, is paying you to help take out the trash. You swear it’s purely business and nothing personal.

You are a Mafia Goon.

You can use the standard Mafia factional kill.

You have the ability to vote.

You can use the fake role name of Mr. Mew, as well as the Mr. Mew costume account.

You win when the Bad Puppets control 50% of the votes.

Costume Name: Mr. Mew
Costume Password: nope
Game thread is here: https://www.outermafia.com/threads/968/
Scum thread is here: nah

Good luck and have fun!

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I was wondering why scum didn't off Oscar either. Looks like they decided to off people Oscar had confirmed though (Charlie, then howdy died due to town poison though). The Topo giogio kill is random though

Actually...

@Oscar the Grouch please fully role claim, including limitations of your role and what each of your night actions was
Sure, I am a 2 shot hider. I used both my shots on the exact people I said (howdy and Charlie)

if i hide behind scum, I die, if i hide behind someone who dies I die.
 
The triumphant evening instilled in the puppets a new sense of hope, but a terrible morning was certain to follow.

As the puppets awoke, one of them did not arise from their trash can like normal.

They were still present in the can, but their body was cut to pieces…

Oscar the Grouch has died!

She was…
Welcome to Puppet Mafia!

You are Oscar the Grouch. You are aligned with the Good Puppets (that is, TOWN).

You are trash. That’s okay though, you love trash, as well as hiding in it. Your hiding skills can be quite handy.

You are a 2-Shot Weak Hider. During the Night Phase, you may use the command Hide: <player> to hide behind a target. You will be protected from all actions that Night. If your target is a threat to the Good Puppets, you will die. If your target is killed the same Night you hide behind them, you will also die. This is a two-shot skill.

You have the ability to vote.

You win when all threats to the Good Puppets are eliminated.

Costume Name: Oscar the Grouch
Costume Password: nada
Game thread is here: https://www.outermafia.com/threads/968/

Good luck and have fun!

Please confirm your Role by replying to this PM or posting in the game thread.

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Vote tool: https://vote.fireblend.com/om/968/
 

Fozzie Bear

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I was really hoping they would kill me but too much to ask for. I did have a chance to check in early in the day phase but I've been shitting up the game and wasn't really feeling it. After doing father's day stuff on Saturday, I came back to the turbo which honestly, good job. Doubt I would have tried to change that vote since I already screwed it once but better that I wasn't here honestly.
 

Fozzie Bear

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Fwiw, my opinion is that the pinocchio vs. mew day is now the best data we could have and har har, I put pinocchio on the table so I must be scum but think about mechanically why that is extremely unlikely and you realize I'm just dumbass town. Regardless, Abby looks the worst which checks out since that's the opposite of my read. Past that, I think we're either looking at Jeff (more likely) or Lamb (spicier and only if Lamb is literally Mew's alt).
 

Abby Cadabby

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Gooood shit. Soooo. Jeff/Elmo or Fozzie. Of Jeff/Elmo for EoD on the Mew and Pinocchio vote, Jeff looked the most sus with the "wadda you wanna do?" so they could ride the ride. Not feeling that the Lamb and Mew back-and-forth was fake.

In response to Lamb Chop's vote on Mew:
Here is my problem with this vote and any others like it. What we have here is an echo chamber of players saying nothing of substance about me while talking as if I got caught because what, I voted for Headdy and said it was the easy vote? In a game where players didn't hit post counts. Where players have said they're struggling. Where others made the same vote but didn't use the word "easy"? Is that how I got caught? Saying the same thing as others, doing the same thing as others, just not the proper way as described in Town 101. Nah. This vote is weak as hell.
I had two or three other quotes and changed page on accident and lost it, but yeah. Just search Mew's posts on Lamb and tell me that's all fake.

I can't see Lamb as scum after that flip. Triumph not so much either after yesterday's push. That leaves Fozzie/Jeff/Elmo.
 

Lamb Chop

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Ok this was the easy one, now the 2 others are much harder to find but I agree with Abby, gotta be one of these 3, unless Abby is scum but I really don't think that's the case.
 

Jeff Tracy

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I'm gonna try and reread more later in the day, no promises. Off the top of my head, I feel best about Triumph at this point. Abby pushed hard for Mew last day phase but Mew had already rolled over so I wouldn't rule out bussing. I go back and forth on Fozzie, I don't love the way they turned on Kermit, but it is hard to be that loud about being wrong as scum. I'd rank Elmo higher as town above Lamb but neither has been a huge presence in the game.
 

Elmo

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Fozzie has pretty much exclusively only voted for town except miss piggy. Even then he puts a vote down on piggy first here.

To be fair, it doesn’t look like Shang knew that Dynamite was town. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to assume that a Hunter is going after a town player for balance sake so she probably knew but inherently, that player would probably be playing for their other puppet’s team goal while still making sure Headdy died asap.

VOTE: Miss Piggy

I’m not sold on the Mew votes at all. I’m also not sold on Charlie being 100% town but I have to assume that is some weird puppet baiting on Oscar.

Shading votes on scum mew and trying to bring into question town Charlie. He also continues to heavily defend Mew, there are multiple posts but I just grabbed one.

For a day 2, this vote activity is enough to be called a dogpile imo which tells me scum is taking the easy vote. On its own, its hard to say if that is scum trying to get an easy mis-vote or trying to bus but Mew randomly unvoting as the only wagon contender on the basis of "something I saw" tells me this is a town player who legitimately thinks they saw some secret crumb and doesn't want to share it so scum don't find it.

Even before all of that though, Mew has read to me like confused and not sure how to navigate this thread and, again, I'll double speak myself and point out that it could all be an act but I doubt it.

At this point, mew has a sizeable lead in votes with 5, two people joined Fozzie on piggy, we know now this is scum Vs scum. Piggy claims and fozzie says this:

The timing is impeccable. Regardless, in what world do you think this is a good time to claim this?

VOTE: Charlie McCarthy

Miss Piggy is a useless vote now. We can come back to her later if there is no sign of poison by mid-late game.

I'm aware of what I said about Charlie earlier. He heavily changed my mind with all the peacocking he did pretending to work through the Shang thig.

Calling piggy a useless vote and again going back to Charlie.

He does eventually vote piggy but by that time the vote had swung piggy's way big time.

Of course this could all just be unfortunate town but it does look terrible in hindsight.
 

Abby Cadabby

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Morning. I'll be a bit dicey today with availability. Will try to pop in here, but unless something blows my mind I think Elmo's post kinda seals Fozzie for me. We just gotta be sure.
 

Fozzie Bear

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I am not scum and it makes 0 sense for me to be scum, yes great I was super wrong on Mew but I'm not going to defend how I handled Piggy. It was textbook logic down to the letter. She had claimed a role that is easily counter claimed and is typically town. There was no point to vote her until Kermit said something. It has nothing to do with the tides changing or whatever, she was dying regardless because Bert had 0 interest in actually assessing the situation and he was in his tunnel. Congratulations that he was right but we got to the same conclusion, in a much safer way, once Kermit claimed.

It is clear as day what I did between my day 1 and day 2 play. This slot cannot be scum at all, it would be a catastrophically bad choice to balance a game this way and you all know it.
 

Fozzie Bear

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Morning. I'll be a bit dicey today with availability. Will try to pop in here, but unless something blows my mind I think Elmo's post kinda seals Fozzie for me. We just gotta be sure.
Elmo is Bert or Ernie. I'm still not sure on Lamb but you came into today with a plan on Jeff and you are now seeing the winds change. You're opening post was made well after mine but you purposely acted as if I didn't post because you wanted to read the room and see what a town member thought of me. You're welcome on all the mislynches I handed you on a silver platter but the show is over.

VOTE: Abby Cadabby
 

Abby Cadabby

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Elmo is Bert or Ernie. I'm still not sure on Lamb but you came into today with a plan on Jeff and you are now seeing the winds change. You're opening post was made well after mine but you purposely acted as if I didn't post because you wanted to read the room and see what a town member thought of me. You're welcome on all the mislynches I handed you on a silver platter but the show is over.

VOTE: Abby Cadabby
I came in saying it has to be you and Jeff/Elmo. Nothing's changed.
 

Fozzie Bear

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Jeff/Elmo or Fozzie.

you and Jeff/Elmo.

Something changed and it's not just semantics. My play has been shit but enough people have entertained the fact that it would be very hard for me to be scum in this set up and you weren't sure how the room would be reading me today. You listed my name in a non-committal way and put more pressure on Jeff because people had been looking to that as the next lynch in the previous day phases. Now that Elmo brought me up as more likely, you followed suit because you know you don't need to be as stealthy today, one more mislynch and it's done so whoever you can get killed is fine. If you actually cared to "be sure" you would have interacted with me in that opening post. You chose to ignore me though even though I called you out directly. It's extremely transparent what you are doing.
 

Fozzie Bear

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I just realized that I should be assuming occam's razor here. Mew and Abby both played the same way, I felt the same feelings towards them where little parts of their play just got me to trust them for no real reason other than feelings. I was sitting here mildly annoyed that I fell for that twice but it makes more sense if you are both just the same player.
 

Abby Cadabby

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I don't even know what I'm reading anymore, especially between those two quotes....This feels like you and Bert nitpicking over nothing all over again. "Now that Elmo brought me up" ---I BROUGHT YOU UP. lol. And if I cared to be sure----I haven't voted. And we have well over 24 hours! There's no rush. You're the one acting like there's a time bomb about to go off in 2 minutes. Lordy.

Vote: Fozzie Bear

Here, I'll respond to this because it's the only leg you have left to stand on:
It is clear as day what I did between my day 1 and day 2 play. This slot cannot be scum at all, it would be a catastrophically bad choice to balance a game this way and you all know it.
Mew was the first player to call out the connection between you and Shang. I absolutely don't think your slot and Shang would be neutral/scum. But now I heavily doubt that connection and am left assuming you and Mew set that up because well....it's a pretty beautiful defense.
 

Fozzie Bear

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I don't even know what I'm reading anymore, especially between those two quotes....This feels like you and Bert nitpicking over nothing all over again. "Now that Elmo brought me up" ---I BROUGHT YOU UP. lol. And if I cared to be sure----I haven't voted. And we have well over 24 hours! There's no rush. You're the one acting like there's a time bomb about to go off in 2 minutes. Lordy.

Vote: Fozzie Bear

Here, I'll respond to this because it's the only leg you have left to stand on:

Mew was the first player to call out the connection between you and Shang. I absolutely don't think your slot and Shang would be neutral/scum. But now I heavily doubt that connection and am left assuming you and Mew set that up because well....it's a pretty beautiful defense.
You said my name with no other commentary. Elmo actually went and pulled quotes and made a big deal that she wants to vote me today. You didn't bring me up, you shot gun blasted everyone's name who could potentially be a vote today. I'm also not pretending there is a rush, I just know you are scum. I'm getting under your skin though which tells me I'm right. I've been in this position plenty and it usually doesn't go well for me so I expect the same now but I figured it out in the end and I'll kick and scream all the way to the end.

As far as your last sentence there, I can't really provide much direct commentary but it sure is weird that everybody has made that assumption and no one has tried to call bullshit on it. It doesn't really matter that Mew brought it up first, you'd think someone would try to allude to it being a lie if they felt it was since this has been an ongoing thread since day 2.

I also don't know for sure that Mew brought it up first but I like that you had that knowledge ready offhand, wonder why that is :)
 
I'll say it again: I believe Fozzie is town because of Miss Piggy's dying words suddenly turning on Fozzie (see a previous post of mine where I quote them). This play makes more sense now that we know both the leaders that day were scum (D2, Miss Piggy and Mew). So there is no way she would throw another fellow scum under the bus

(in hindsight, her claim now also makes sense. It could ostensibly have been a town role, since poison is usually a neutral/scum role, and way maybe trying to get heat off Mew)
 
My problem with Piggy is a similar problem I have with a bunch of accounts. Fake isn't the word I'd attribute so much as ... Rushed? Like they're struggling to hit their 10 post count, and not having enough to say. If I re-read the few pages we have now and find something interesting to point out, what do I as a player now do with my other account but fluff and nonsense, or quote my own other account, nod along, and say, "yup, genius stuff!" and make it super obvious. This will probably, hopefully, get easier as we get deeper into the game, but D1 is a struggle-and-a-half. Now double that struggle cuz you have two accounts you have to talk with on D1. Hence, I think, the post from Rando for all of us. (Or maybe I'm just projecting way too much). Okay, now I'm really truly done with Piggy for now.


Fuck me. I actually laughed at this one.

But I would like to hear more from Mew. In fact, I'm a big fan of puttin' votes down early when able so let's get some prod voting down:

Vote: Mr. Mew

You kind of gave me the business yesterday and were a bit short with responses.
@Fozzie Bear Do you think Mew would have voted for himself? And not moved it to get some townie points for voting Miss Piggy?

I do agree that Abby's pinnochio vote on D5 is sus, but so is Jeff's (and elmo's lack of vote that day too)
 
Is this what you think? Will you move your vote then?

Where do you want to go? I think we can reasonably hit scum with either, but we should bring the wagons to 5 votes to avoid accidental ties.

Honestly super unsure. Pinnochio was someone on my radar earlier on, but I guess I'm a little nervous of this late swing to them. I was kind of sold on mew as this day phase has gone on. I also feel generally better about the people on pinnochios wagon.

Hmm Jeff and Elmo have been engaging each other quite a bit, mostly in D5 (where both their day end actions were sus). Still, not sure scum would openly engage each other like this.

BUT we are a double costume game. So they could be the same account and they are trying to make it appear like they are two different people.

with only 6 accounts alive, I am assuming most townies only have 1 account left.

HMMMM
 

Jeff Tracy

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Glad we got Mew and I don't have to second guess all my reads at least

@Jeff Tracy can you explain your swing to Pinnochio on D5?
Yeah, I had been sus of Pinocchio for awhile and thought they might be scum with Mew, it seemed like the way the votes were going scum were prepared to lose Mew so I wanted to see if anyone moved to save Pinocchio instead. I also thought Pinocchio could have been Piggy's alt, although obviously that's not the case.
I will say if I knew the outcome there I think I would have been more likely to stand in place. Part of the reason I thought Elmo felt good at day end was her being unsure of what to do.
 

Jeff Tracy

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Elmo is Bert or Ernie. I'm still not sure on Lamb but you came into today with a plan on Jeff and you are now seeing the winds change. You're opening post was made well after mine but you purposely acted as if I didn't post because you wanted to read the room and see what a town member thought of me. You're welcome on all the mislynches I handed you on a silver platter but the show is over.

VOTE: Abby Cadabby
What did you see with Elmo?
I agree that Abby doesn't feel good today, seems like they are just gonna follow whichever way the wind blows.
 

Elmo

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Yeah, I had been sus of Pinocchio for awhile and thought they might be scum with Mew, it seemed like the way the votes were going scum were prepared to lose Mew so I wanted to see if anyone moved to save Pinocchio instead. I also thought Pinocchio could have been Piggy's alt, although obviously that's not the case.
I will say if I knew the outcome there I think I would have been more likely to stand in place. Part of the reason I thought Elmo felt good at day end was her being unsure of what to do.

Yeah it's frustrating getting scum read for being uncertain, I'm actually in awe of how confident Abby and triumph seem to be because I really don't feel particularly positive about anyone.
 
Not sure why my off wagon vote yesterday is seen as sus, I had been pretty vocal about Kermit being very unlikely to be scum so the question became if we were on the right track with Kutaro or not.

It's sus that you expressed doubt kutaro was scum but didn't engage with kutaro at all despite you both being around at eod and him directly replying to you.

Kind of like you knew he was going to flip town, get to give yourself kudos for not voting him when he does flip town but you weren't actually wanting any other wagon to take off.

You didn't even try to engage tho. Like absolutely no interest, why not say that to him instead of replying as if he wasn't there.

Was just really weird imo.

In fact Vote: Jeff Tracy

These are from D4. Lots of back and forth between Jeff and Elmo, culminating with Elmo voting for Jeff. It actually reads kind of town to me re: Elmo.

Let's look at yesterday. Kutaro appeared twelve minutes before we end. That's not a lot of time for talking.


Jeff voted Grogu. Kutaro posted:

Why aren't ppl outside of Jeff getting lumped in here with your engagement criticism.

Mr Mew lightly defending Jeff, this was when Jeff had 3 votes on him and Grogu had 1
 
So hypothetically who's next on your list because one of these names is for sure incorrect.

lamb is the only credible option imo

I just can't see abby being scum. But that may be because I just don't want them to be. Well ultimately, I sign up for these games to get betrayed so...
 

Elmo

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Abby and Lamb chop are scum together, trying to make a Fozzie case? and jumped on when Elmo made a case against Fozzie?

I was just about to ask you do you not find Abby opening up by saying I'm one of the potential scum, then almost immediately completely backing my post about fozzie. I know fozzie was also in his list of where scum is, but saying my post "seals" it when you think I might be scum does seem kind of quick.
 
I was just about to ask you do you not find Abby opening up by saying I'm one of the potential scum, then almost immediately completely backing my post about fozzie. I know fozzie was also in his list of where scum is, but saying my post "seals" it when you think I might be scum does seem kind of quick.
Yeah, especially because your argument wasn't super convincing against Fozzie either...you yourself said they could be wrong town lol. it does seem opportunistic.

Sigh, an excellent town player would have baited a fozzie vote from the scum here after your post. I wish I was that good.
 
I was just about to ask you do you not find Abby opening up by saying I'm one of the potential scum, then almost immediately completely backing my post about fozzie. I know fozzie was also in his list of where scum is, but saying my post "seals" it when you think I might be scum does seem kind of quick.
So who is scum with Abby?
 

Abby Cadabby

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I'm getting under your skin though which tells me I'm right.
I mean....once you get to this point logic has gone out the window sooooo.

Why can't the two left be both jeff and elmo?
I mean yeah, could be, but I think it's Fozzie as one option, then Jeff/Elmo (meaning one or the other). And Jeff feels like the better pick. At that point, it's PoE to Elmo because I feel good enough you and Lamb aren't scum.

What did you see with Elmo?
I agree that Abby doesn't feel good today, seems like they are just gonna follow whichever way the wind blows.
Jeff cool as a cucumber here.
 
Lamb chop or Jeff. You coming in the way you did on the fozzie Abby omgus feels town, the easy thing to do as scum would have been to keep pushing that.

So, two questions then:

1. Do you feel lamb chop vs Mew from thorughout the game was manufactured?
2. How do you feel about fozzie now?
 

Elmo

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So, two questions then:

1. Do you feel lamb chop vs Mew from thorughout the game was manufactured?
2. How do you feel about fozzie now?
1. I think it's definitely possible. Looking at the vote records of all of us remaining and lamb chop is far and away the best voting scum because pretty much every vote was for mew everyday.
2. Fozzie feels more genuine to me than Abby in the exchanges since my post. Also Abby opening previous day immediately throwing shade at me and Jeff pings me now. Because it can be seen as trying to deflect from their vote on pinnochio.
 

Abby Cadabby

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So, two questions then:

1. Do you feel lamb chop vs Mew from thorughout the game was manufactured?
2. How do you feel about fozzie now?
1. Mew was busy as fuck if they manufactured all that with Lamb and me.
2. Fozzie feels like someone coming into a day knowing the player they defended most just flipped scum. They have their target (me) and are doing their best to yank you all in. They haven't even bothered to give other reads. No need to bother. They just have to flip me.
 

Elmo

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This game is in the balance right now, scum can't really afford to bus when it's this tight, their vote together is much stronger, which is why abbys insistence that lamb isn't on the table pings me too.
 

Abby Cadabby

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1. I think it's definitely possible. Looking at the vote records of all of us remaining and lamb chop is far and away the best voting scum because pretty much every vote was for mew everyday.
2. Fozzie feels more genuine to me than Abby in the exchanges since my post. Also Abby opening previous day immediately throwing shade at me and Jeff pings me now. Because it can be seen as trying to deflect from their vote on pinnochio.
I guess I goofed being uncertain and going through my PoE to put you with Jeff. Can't take it back so just gotta eat the sandwich for it. I've said a bajillion times where I am with Triump and Lamb, and you can follow my logic yesterday including where I was with you. The only doubt I've had with you was how you and Jeff ended the Pinocchio/Mew vote. That hasn't changed, but if you stacked it all up it doesn't come close to Fozzie and Jeff.
 

Jeff Tracy

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I guess I goofed being uncertain and going through my PoE to put you with Jeff. Can't take it back so just gotta eat the sandwich for it. I've said a bajillion times where I am with Triump and Lamb, and you can follow my logic yesterday including where I was with you. The only doubt I've had with you was how you and Jeff ended the Pinocchio/Mew vote. That hasn't changed, but if you stacked it all up it doesn't come close to Fozzie and Jeff.
If you think Fozzie is scum how do you account for day 2? Mr. Mew was slowly building votes, then Piggy claims and tries to throw shade at Fozzie, so scum made zero attempt to redirect votes toward town?
 

Abby Cadabby

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*Also, can you factor in checking in to a thread before work, before your first coffee, and dropping a post just to show you're here so you can chat with people if they around? Then you get mauled by a bear? That was my morning.
 

Jeff Tracy

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I'm looking at Lamb but there isn't much aside from butting heads with Mew for most of the game. Mew tunneled on Lamb pretty hard most of the game even if it meant being off-wagon, although on day 5 Mew mixes it up by chasing Abby and Triumph for voting Grogu instead.
 

Fozzie Bear

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@Fozzie Bear Do you think Mew would have voted for himself? And not moved it to get some townie points for voting Miss Piggy?

I do agree that Abby's pinnochio vote on D5 is sus, but so is Jeff's (and elmo's lack of vote that day too)
Mew was a goon and Piggy had a PR even if it was a weak one. If you have to choose scum vs scum vote, wouldn't you bus the goon?
What did you see with Elmo?
I agree that Abby doesn't feel good today, seems like they are just gonna follow whichever way the wind blows.
It's a hunch, I think they are Ernie specifically. Ernie was following Bert's lead for sure and there was a point where Elmo piped up to say she didn't like they way I was talking about Bert (which probably means Elmo was not Bert). In a game where Elmo has been fairly lost the whole way through, I'm not surprised if she is going back to Bert's biggest push in lieu of other info.
1. Mew was busy as fuck if they manufactured all that with Lamb and me.
2. Fozzie feels like someone coming into a day knowing the player they defended most just flipped scum. They have their target (me) and are doing their best to yank you all in. They haven't even bothered to give other reads. No need to bother. They just have to flip me.
Remember that post you didn't engage with? Maybe read it again. I laid out my thoughts. I was less sure when I wrote that but seeing you froth at the mouth when Elmo wanted me dead filled in the blanks.
Fwiw, my opinion is that the pinocchio vs. mew day is now the best data we could have and har har, I put pinocchio on the table so I must be scum but think about mechanically why that is extremely unlikely and you realize I'm just dumbass town. Regardless, Abby looks the worst which checks out since that's the opposite of my read. Past that, I think we're either looking at Jeff (more likely) or Lamb (spicier and only if Lamb is literally Mew's alt).
 

Abby Cadabby

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If you think Fozzie is scum how do you account for day 2? Mr. Mew was slowly building votes, then Piggy claims and tries to throw shade at Fozzie, so scum made zero attempt to redirect votes toward town?
I don't think we're ever going to know what was going through their heads with that claim until this is all over. I wouldn't think they'd go after Fozzie if they were scum, but....lord, it was so low effort that I don't know if they really did "go after" Fozzie.

Reading Mew's posts with Pinocchio on Piggy and Fozzie, and Mew really wanted us to believe that definitely no way would scum Mew would allow Piggy to burn Fozzie like they did.
 

Fozzie Bear

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If you think Fozzie is scum how do you account for day 2? Mr. Mew was slowly building votes, then Piggy claims and tries to throw shade at Fozzie, so scum made zero attempt to redirect votes toward town?
Scum 100% believed I was a neutral on day 2. Piggy only claimed like that because she figured the poisoner had to be neutral and she wanted to get me out. It's extremely obvious with hindsight.
 

Abby Cadabby

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You keep quoting me and cutting out all the content to only highlight fluff. I know I'm being snarky to you but you aren't even addressing my logic, you are just relying on emotional/joke appeals.
Well yeah. I told you earlier I was done with ya. Not letting scum try to rile me up and bait me no matter how much logic is peppered in between.
 

Fozzie Bear

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Well yeah. I told you earlier I was done with ya. Not letting scum try to rile me up and bait me no matter how much logic is peppered in between.
Did you realize your accusation held no water? You want to accuse me of having no other reads today but when I quote it for you, you don't actually reply. Other people are pointing out the obvious things about me and you are hand waving them away. You aren't trying to solve despite you whole due diligence shtick you were trying to preach. You just need a mislynch and I put you on the back foot.
 

Jeff Tracy

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It's a hunch, I think they are Ernie specifically. Ernie was following Bert's lead for sure and there was a point where Elmo piped up to say she didn't like they way I was talking about Bert (which probably means Elmo was not Bert). In a game where Elmo has been fairly lost the whole way through, I'm not surprised if she is going back to Bert's biggest push in lieu of other info.
See I was thinking Kutaro from the way they reacted to end of day 3. I was wondering if Bert and Ernie were really just the same person and the mason chat is just a meme, having 4 town know each other seems strong unless there is a restriction in the chat about talking about the paired accounts.
 

Fozzie Bear

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See I was thinking Kutaro from the way they reacted to end of day 3. I was wondering if Bert and Ernie were really just the same person and the mason chat is just a meme, having 4 town know each other seems strong unless there is a restriction in the chat about talking about the paired accounts.
I would be shocked if they were allowed to outright say who their other puppets were. I'm sure they could have done some clever play to figure it out but they'd never be able to ouright tell the rest of us either. It could be worth going back and seeing if there is someone that Bert consistently town read against all scrutiny while he was alive but I never noticed anything like that while interacting with him.
 

Jeff Tracy

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So you say: "he tries to nudge the attention on Kermit possibly being neutral and potentially a threat to Town." But when I go back to Kermit reveal, this is you almost immediately:


Are you projecting what you all were up to/trying to do?

Vote: Pinocchio
I have to head out for now, but I am going to struggle to unsee this. I like Pinocchio or Triumph, but my case on Triumph is thin unless someone finds something more than "they're a nice doggo."
It's not a question of you believing the claims or not. It's about you thinking Mew nudged attention to Kermit possibly being neutral while you yourself first shoved the idea out there by directly asking Kermit right after the claim. I'm trying to sort out why what Mew did is a problem while your move wasn't too.
Abby's progression on Pinocchio looks pretty forced here.
 

Abby Cadabby

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OK, genuinely last post then I gotta go back to work you buttheads. Leave me alone for a bit.

Your first post of this day says elmo is one of your top scum. So why were you so quick to agree with her logic?
Think you're reading this wrong. My first post is this, and it's a bit backwards. I should've started by saying I don't think Lamb Chop is scum. Already said you're town. Therefore, I'm left with Jeff/Elmo and Fozzie, which is where the post starts. Sorting out those 3:

Gooood shit. Soooo. Jeff/Elmo or Fozzie. Of Jeff/Elmo for EoD on the Mew and Pinocchio vote, Jeff looked the most sus with the "wadda you wanna do?" so they could ride the ride. Not feeling that the Lamb and Mew back-and-forth was fake.

In response to Lamb Chop's vote on Mew:

I had two or three other quotes and changed page on accident and lost it, but yeah. Just search Mew's posts on Lamb and tell me that's all fake.

I can't see Lamb as scum after that flip. Triumph not so much either after yesterday's push. That leaves Fozzie/Jeff/Elmo.
So it's either Jeff/Elmo. Not both. That's why my sentence after is saying, "Jeff looked the most sus."
 

Fozzie Bear

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See I was thinking Kutaro from the way they reacted to end of day 3. I was wondering if Bert and Ernie were really just the same person and the mason chat is just a meme, having 4 town know each other seems strong unless there is a restriction in the chat about talking about the paired accounts.
Just had a random musing but it would be pretty funny if the hunter had to kill a Mason's alt account. Could also explain why Bert was so adamant about me. I'm not sold on that but I figure I'll say it out loud for the post game memes.
 

Abby Cadabby

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@Abby Cadabby what made you think Pinocchio was Piggy? It didn't see you mention it before Fozzie brought it up here.
My downfall is going to be sheeping a lot of Fozzie's thoughts....That's gonna bang me now that it's being spun around in some kind of "oh boy, you manipulated me."

Sorry all. Really don't have the time to do more today. Wrap it up or I'll be back tomorrow.

(Or just kill Jeff while I'm gone and do yourselves a favor)
 
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