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Well if they seemed genuine then you could put them in the town for now pile. Sounds like you don't have piles. As in, not solving.

I am thinking maybe voting you now is fine.
That’s fine. You are clearly fishing for a reaction but I’ve already made my stance on Howdy known, I like the Dynamite vote and have already explained all of that, I already said I think you are town. Past that, it’s more conjecture than anything. I don’t need a “town for now” pile, if I have no interest in voting someone then clearly that’s close enough to what you are expecting. The only thing otherwise that I haven’t really shared is I think I know who fozzie is but I’m not about to bring player conjecture in the game especially since it does nothing for solving.
 

Mr. Mew

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Howdy, partner! I understand why you've decided to vote on me today, but who would be your second choice?
Oscar. Abby gets a side eye for his aloof aww golly posts too. He talks a lot without saying a lot.

I'd like if you fought more for your life. Town needs to go out fighting.
 
Oscar. Abby gets a side eye for his aloof aww golly posts too. He talks a lot without saying a lot.

I'd like if you fought more for your life. Town needs to go out fighting.
Well said, partner! But to be honest, I'm not too sure if this account can do too much work for the good of Town; using my body as a springboard to look into people who bandwagon'ed onto me might not be the worst idea, at least in my eyes.
 

Miss Piggy

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The Dynamite wagon is feeling loosey goosey to me. Needs more of a spark. I think there is more weight behind this one.
Hi-ya!
Vote: Howdy Doody
 
I've been sitting on it for the last few hours but I keep coming back to the same conclusion. Unironically, I just like the Dynamite vote. I'm getting a weird feeling over the whole laying down on purpose thing and I'd rather just know for certain if I am dealing with good or bad here on his account. He seems to have a plan regardless of how this goes so I expect a push from his other account one way or another tomorrow anyway.

VOTE: Dynamite Headdy
 

Ernie

Costume
I've been sitting on it for the last few hours but I keep coming back to the same conclusion. Unironically, I just like the Dynamite vote. I'm getting a weird feeling over the whole laying down on purpose thing and I'd rather just know for certain if I am dealing with good or bad here on his account. He seems to have a plan regardless of how this goes so I expect a push from his other account one way or another tomorrow anyway.

VOTE: Dynamite Headdy
If you have two accounts getting 1 of them gone is not something to worry about I guess.
 
Not feeling great about Miss Piggy. She first backs her vote on Headdy, but when support seems to dwindle she switches to the next best wagon.
Feels a bit too opportunistic for my taste.

vote: Miss Piggy
 
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Dynamite Headdy (3 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25 #204
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111 #208
Mr. Mew - #192
Shang Bu Huan - #205

Oscar the Grouch (2 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Abby Cadabby - #171

Miss Piggy (2 votes)
Ernie - #183
Charlie McCarthy - #208

Howdy Doody (2 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99 #205
Kutaro - #105
Miss Piggy - #204

Triumph the Comic Dog (1 votes)
Grogu - #144

Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21

Grogu (1 votes)
Jeff Tracy - #157

Shang Bu Huan (1 votes)
Bert - #198

Not voting: Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Lamb Chop, Dynamite Headdy, Pinocchio, Elmo, Triumph the Comic Dog

Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 25 Abby Cadabby: 20 Bert: 19 Ernie: 13 Charlie McCarthy: 10 Pinocchio: 10 Howdy Doody: 10 Mr. Mew: 9 Triumph the Comic Dog: 9 Fozzie Bear: 8 Topo Gigio: 8 Grogu: 8 Dynamite Headdy: 7 Miss Piggy: 7 Jeff Tracy: 6 Oscar the Grouch: 4 Kutaro: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Elmo: 3 Lamb Chop: 3

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Mr. Mew

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We still have a lot of players not voting.

Well said, partner! But to be honest, I'm not too sure if this account can do too much work for the good of Town; using my body as a springboard to look into people who bandwagon'ed onto me might not be the worst idea, at least in my eyes.
Is there anyone voting for you that gets a side eye?
 

Jeff Tracy

Costume
That is pretty strange behavior coming from Howdy, I must say. Dropping that and then disappearing is a little suspicious
Why is it suspicious?
To be honest this feels more like forced engagement than what Howdy did.
Mostly just a gut feeling. However, Howdy's more recent posts make me feel better about them so I'm not voting there today
I feel like if Grogu were Scum, they wouldn't have backed down on their suspicion on Howdy that quickly.
Not sure I follow the progression here. Grogu offered a flimsy read, got called out on it and then wavered.
Pinocchio who do you like/dislike so far?
 

Miss Piggy

Costume
Not feeling great about Miss Piggy. She first backs her vote on Headdy, but when support seems to dwindle she switches to the next best wagon.
Feels a bit too opportunistic for my taste.

vote: Miss Piggy
I'm not tracking with either of these points. How was support dwindling on the vote? And when you say opportunistic what was the opportunity?
 
We still have a lot of players not voting.


Is there anyone voting for you that gets a side eye?
Miss Piggy is still a little suspicious to me; and it is also weird to me that both Miss Piggy and Charlie McCarthy, who had been voting for me for sometime now, both switched off of me. I don't really know why, but it stuck out to me. That being said:
Vote: Miss Piggy
As much as I'm ok dying, I won't just roll over if I think a better option is available to me; but as Shang just said above, I do hope there are no shenanagins
 
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Dynamite Headdy (3 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25 #204
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111 #208
Mr. Mew - #192
Shang Bu Huan - #205

Miss Piggy (3 votes)
Ernie - #183
Charlie McCarthy - #208
Dynamite Headdy - #214

Oscar the Grouch (2 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Abby Cadabby - #171

Howdy Doody (2 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99 #205
Kutaro - #105
Miss Piggy - #204

Triumph the Comic Dog (1 votes)
Grogu - #144

Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21

Grogu (1 votes)
Jeff Tracy - #157

Shang Bu Huan (1 votes)
Bert - #198

Not voting: Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Lamb Chop, Pinocchio, Elmo, Triumph the Comic Dog

Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 26 Abby Cadabby: 20 Bert: 19 Ernie: 13 Mr. Mew: 10 Charlie McCarthy: 10 Pinocchio: 10 Howdy Doody: 10 Triumph the Comic Dog: 9 Dynamite Headdy: 8 Fozzie Bear: 8 Miss Piggy: 8 Topo Gigio: 8 Grogu: 8 Jeff Tracy: 7 Oscar the Grouch: 4 Kutaro: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Elmo: 3 Lamb Chop: 3

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Bert

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Miss piggy is a fine choice. Their early vote is flimsy and questioning it brought nothing new from them.

vote: miss piggy
 

Pinocchio

Costume
Not sure I follow the progression here. Grogu offered a flimsy read, got called out on it and then wavered.
Pinocchio who do you like/dislike so far?
I've liked what I read from Shang so far.

Not sure about the current wagon leaders. Dead thread - Dead Townie and all that.
 
I’m not moving my vote because then I’ll probably just end up doing what Bert and Elmo did. I think Dynamite is still the better choice anyway so I’m fine letting it fall where it does.
 

Abby Cadabby

Costume
This cowboy is interested in why there's suddenly a lot of heat on our fine Piggy friend; could be worth looking into in the future
-Puts on tinfoil hat-

This post makes me nervous now lol. "If Piggy flips town, let's make sure we flip Piggy voters next." If you're scum, you know Piggy vote is clean?
 
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Dynamite Headdy (4 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25 #204
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111 #208
Mr. Mew - #192
Shang Bu Huan - #205
Elmo - #217 #224
Miss Piggy - #226

Miss Piggy (4 votes)
Ernie - #183
Charlie McCarthy - #208
Dynamite Headdy - #214
Bert - #216

Oscar the Grouch (2 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Abby Cadabby - #171

Mr. Mew (1 votes)
Triumph the Comic Dog - #220

Triumph the Comic Dog (1 votes)
Grogu - #144

Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21

Grogu (1 votes)
Jeff Tracy - #157

Howdy Doody (1 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99 #205
Kutaro - #105
Miss Piggy - #204 #226

Shang Bu Huan (0 votes)
Bert - #198 #216

Not voting: Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Lamb Chop, Pinocchio, Elmo

Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 28 Abby Cadabby: 21 Bert: 20 Ernie: 13 Pinocchio: 12 Mr. Mew: 10 Triumph the Comic Dog: 10 Charlie McCarthy: 10 Miss Piggy: 10 Howdy Doody: 10 Dynamite Headdy: 9 Fozzie Bear: 8 Topo Gigio: 8 Grogu: 8 Jeff Tracy: 7 Elmo: 6 Oscar the Grouch: 4 Kutaro: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Lamb Chop: 3

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-Puts on tinfoil hat-

This post makes me nervous now lol. "If Piggy flips town, let's make sure we flip Piggy voters next." If you're scum, you know Piggy vote is clean?
I just find it interesting that after a lot of disparate attention, there comes a counter-wagon in like the last 10 minutes. But I guess Piggy definitely wasn't scot-free today, and I don't know if Piggy is guaranteed scum or not
 
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Dynamite Headdy (4 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25 #204
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111 #208
Mr. Mew - #192
Shang Bu Huan - #205
Elmo - #217 #224
Miss Piggy - #226

Miss Piggy (4 votes)
Ernie - #183
Charlie McCarthy - #208
Dynamite Headdy - #214
Bert - #216

Oscar the Grouch (3 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Abby Cadabby - #171
Pinocchio - #229

Mr. Mew (1 votes)
Triumph the Comic Dog - #220

Triumph the Comic Dog (1 votes)
Grogu - #144

Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21

Grogu (1 votes)
Jeff Tracy - #157

Howdy Doody (1 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99 #205
Kutaro - #105
Miss Piggy - #204 #226

Shang Bu Huan (0 votes)
Bert - #198 #216

Not voting: Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Lamb Chop, Elmo

Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 29 Abby Cadabby: 21 Bert: 20 Pinocchio: 13 Ernie: 13 Dynamite Headdy: 10 Mr. Mew: 10 Triumph the Comic Dog: 10 Charlie McCarthy: 10 Miss Piggy: 10 Howdy Doody: 10 Fozzie Bear: 8 Topo Gigio: 8 Grogu: 8 Jeff Tracy: 7 Elmo: 6 Oscar the Grouch: 4 Kutaro: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Lamb Chop: 3

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==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start - Day End

Dynamite Headdy (5 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25 #204
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111 #208
Mr. Mew - #192
Shang Bu Huan - #205
Elmo - #217 #224
Miss Piggy - #226
Charlie McCarthy - #234

Oscar the Grouch (3 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Abby Cadabby - #171
Pinocchio - #229

Miss Piggy (3 votes)
Ernie - #183
Charlie McCarthy - #208 #234
Dynamite Headdy - #214
Bert - #216

Howdy Doody (1 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99 #205
Kutaro - #105
Miss Piggy - #204 #226

Mr. Mew (1 votes)
Triumph the Comic Dog - #220

Triumph the Comic Dog (1 votes)
Grogu - #144

Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21

Grogu (1 votes)
Jeff Tracy - #157

Shang Bu Huan (0 votes)
Bert - #198 #216

Not voting: Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Lamb Chop, Elmo

Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 29 Abby Cadabby: 21 Bert: 20 Pinocchio: 13 Ernie: 13 Charlie McCarthy: 11 Dynamite Headdy: 10 Mr. Mew: 10 Triumph the Comic Dog: 10 Miss Piggy: 10 Howdy Doody: 10 Fozzie Bear: 8 Topo Gigio: 8 Grogu: 8 Jeff Tracy: 7 Elmo: 6 Kutaro: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Oscar the Grouch: 4 Lamb Chop: 3

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After a day of careful deliberation, the puppets gathered and decided who should be the first to go.

Dynamite Headdy has died!

He was…
Welcome to Puppet Mafia!

You are Dynamite Headdy. You are aligned with the Good Puppets (that is, TOWN).

An expert at using your head, you’ll surely have to put on your thinking cap to solve this one. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any heads around that you can use, so your abilities are quite limited.

You are Vanilla.

You have the ability to vote.

You win when all threats to the Good Puppets are eliminated.

Costume Name: Dynamite Headdy
Costume Password: nope
Game thread is here: https://www.outermafia.com/threads/968/

Good luck and have fun!

Please confirm your Role by replying to this PM or posting in the game thread.

But oh, what’s this? Suddenly, crude laughter rang out. The source of the noise was Shang Bu Huan.

“Nothing personnel, kid. It seems like there were no worthy rivals here after all.”

With that, she swished her cape and disappeared.

Shang Bu Huan has won!

She was…
Welcome to Puppet Mafia!

You are Shā Wú Shēng. You are aligned with nobody (that is, NEUTRAL).

You do not concern yourself with petty squabbles between puppets. You prefer to find and defeat a worthy rival. Out of all the puppets gathered together, Dynamite Headdy is the closest to fitting that role.

You are a Hunter. You win and exit the game if Dynamite Headdy dies before you, or if you survive until the end of the game.

You have the ability to vote.

You can use the fake role name of Shang Bu Huan, as well as the Shang Bu Huan costume account.

Costume Name: Shang Bu Huan
Costume Password: nah
Game thread is here: https://www.outermafia.com/threads/968/

Good luck and have fun!

Please confirm your Role by replying to this PM or posting in the game thread.
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Day 2 Begins in:
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Hey everyone, just making an announcement to please do your best to reach the daily post limits for both accounts. I understand this is a weird and experimental game and it will take some time to get used to, and we started on a weekend which usually has less activity, but the sign-ups and rules clearly said that you need to hit those minimums and there's quite a few accounts that did not. Nobody is getting a formal warning yet, but please ensure you hit the minimums going forward.
 
The despairing night led into an uneasy morning.

As the dawn arrived, manly sobbing could be heard from one of the puppets, slumped over their dear friend. Red confetti streamers poured from the open wound. Bert cradled Ernie in his arms, one last time.

Ernie has died!

They were…
Welcome to Puppet Mafia!

You are Ernie. You are aligned with the Good Puppets (that is, TOWN).

You love living with your absolute best bud in the world, Bert. Truly, you are roommates.

You are a Mason. You know that your best bud, Bert, is a member of the Good Puppets. You may speak with him at any time in your Mason chat.

You have the ability to vote.

You win when all threats to the Good Puppets are eliminated.

Costume Name: Ernie
Costume Password: nada
Game thread is here: https://www.outermafia.com/threads/968/
Mason thread is here: sorry

Good luck and have fun!

Please confirm your Role by replying to this PM or posting in the game thread.

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Day 2 Begins

Day 2 Ends in:
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Vote tool: https://vote.fireblend.com/om/968/
 
Damn I wish I were active yesterday, I totally forgot day ended then. I have a couple of observations
Headdy was obviously town, like there was no posts that were even close to trigger my scum radar. Grogu on the other hand, is either a newbie or scum, because saying there's no benefit in finding the pairs is ridiculous since we are forced to connect the dots to vote out both scum accounts of that player.
Vote: Grogu
 

Bert

Costume
Damn I wish I were active yesterday, I totally forgot day ended then. I have a couple of observations
Headdy was obviously town, like there was no posts that were even close to trigger my scum radar. Grogu on the other hand, is either a newbie or scum, because saying there's no benefit in finding the pairs is ridiculous since we are forced to connect the dots to vote out both scum accounts of that player.
Vote: Grogu
Jeez if Headdy was "obviously town" you sure as hell didn't try too hard to make a case for another player that day.
 

Fozzie Bear

Costume
Well that was crazy.

Anyway, I kind of expected the masons or lovers angle. You two made it too obvious.

I think I can be much more effective today and Grogu did come out of that day 1 smelling terrible but I do still agree that finding the pairs is pointless until we have one scum hit anyway.
 

Howdy Doody

Costume
GAH so frustrating. Poor Ernie.

Shang played a good game. But does that mean there's a second neutral account running around? Not that there's any point in speculating, especially as there's some OK scum leads
 
GAH so frustrating. Poor Ernie.

Shang played a good game. But does that mean there's a second neutral account running around? Not that there's any point in speculating, especially as there's some OK scum leads
It would suck having to win twice, I think there's something else going on
 

Fozzie Bear

Costume
With how fake it was? Sure.
If you think voting me is a good option, you can feel free, I’m going to stop entertaining you now since it’s pointless. We both know what you’re thinking and it’s your call but I have scum hunting to do.
 

Grogu

Costume
Damn I wish I were active yesterday, I totally forgot day ended then. I have a couple of observations
Headdy was obviously town, like there was no posts that were even close to trigger my scum radar. Grogu on the other hand, is either a newbie or scum, because saying there's no benefit in finding the pairs is ridiculous since we are forced to connect the dots to vote out both scum accounts of that player.
Vote: Grogu
I said I think there were risks involved if we didnt have roles that helped determine pairs, but (and i could be wrong) i dont think bert and ernie are two accounts shared by the same player (unless the gamerunner hates us) so that piece of information reveals to me at least we might have similar roles that could help us find pairs. Its very easy to behave in two different ways on different accounts, especially if you are experienced, and I would hazard a guess and say people here haven't played a game like this before. It's something we need to do with caution, as firing blind could get us into an even deeper mess.
 

Topo Gigio

Costume
GAH so frustrating. Poor Ernie.

Shang played a good game. But does that mean there's a second neutral account running around? Not that there's any point in speculating, especially as there's some OK scum leads
Maybe, maybe not. Since Shang was a survivor neutral I’m not exactly sure how Randomless would have classified that role (town threat or not). Definitely Dynamite Heady threat, but not necessarily a town threat.

So Shang’s puppet pal could be any alignment,
 

Bert

Costume
If you think voting me is a good option, you can feel free, I’m going to stop entertaining you now since it’s pointless. We both know what you’re thinking and it’s your call but I have scum hunting to do.
Well the fact is you did play as a scum would play in the previous day and now you are trying to distance yourself from Piggy. Your play was at best lazy and at worst scummy. Maybe you realized Piggy is the next logical vote.
 

Fozzie Bear

Costume
I said I think there were risks involved if we didnt have roles that helped determine pairs, but (and i could be wrong) i dont think bert and ernie are two accounts shared by the same player (unless the gamerunner hates us) so that piece of information reveals to me at least we might have similar roles that could help us find pairs. Its very easy to behave in two different ways on different accounts, especially if you are experienced, and I would hazard a guess and say people here haven't played a game like this before. It's something we need to do with caution, as firing blind could get us into an even deeper mess.
It was clear that Bert and Ernie were not the same player. It would have been too obvious but they were still playing off of each other perfectly. It was cute, sure, but they kind of mucked up by outing themselves as masons or lovers so early. I also still think thread rules apply in secret chats so they probably don’t know for sure who each other’s other puppet was unless they got real clever with it. Finding puppet pairs will be good but it’s really just a case of identifying a scum first. Finding Shang, Heady, or Ernie’s pair would at least help eliminate some potential votes but it shouldn’t be our main focus, yet.

Especially since a clever scum could just muck that up anyway.
 

Grogu

Costume
Piggy saying to look into Charlie is interesting because they both shared a vote on Dynamite for a decent part of the day
 

Abby Cadabby

Costume
Home and catching up. I now feel dumb saying this:
Welp, think that confirms Bert as town.
After realizing the flip flatout says: "You know that your best bud, Bert, is a member of the Good Puppets." I assumed scum wouldn't take out a mason buddy they could feed lies to and gather info from, and completely missed that sentence in the flip.

Going back to our votes and who was on who:

The vote on Miss Piggy was:
Ernie - Town
Headdy - Town
Bert - Town
Charlie - ???

-I had Charlie as a town lean D1, but I also had Shang there too.
-We were tied with 4 (Piggy), 4 (Headdy). Oscar next closest with 3.
-If Piggy and Headdy are both town, and Charlie is scum, he wouldn't want to leave that a tie and lose out on a kill.
-If Piggy or Headdy was scum, Charlie had to choose between bussing or saving a scummate.
-Charlie hasn't said anything to send up red flags, but this post comes from Piggy after having said nothing about Charlie prior:

If I flip, Charlie skeeves me the most on my wagon. Good luck!
If Piggy winds up being scum, this makes Charlie look worse in my eyes. Feels like a last ditch save to muddy the waters and create distance.
 

Fozzie Bear

Costume
Home and catching up. I now feel dumb saying this:
After realizing the flip flatout says: "You know that your best bud, Bert, is a member of the Good Puppets." I assumed scum wouldn't take out a mason buddy they could feed lies to and gather info from, and completely missed that sentence in the flip.

Going back to our votes and who was on who:

The vote on Miss Piggy was:
Ernie - Town
Headdy - Town
Bert - Town
Charlie - ???

-I had Charlie as a town lean D1, but I also had Shang there too.
-We were tied with 4 (Piggy), 4 (Headdy). Oscar next closest with 3.
-If Piggy and Headdy are both town, and Charlie is scum, he wouldn't want to leave that a tie and lose out on a kill.
-If Piggy or Headdy was scum, Charlie had to choose between bussing or saving a scummate.
-Charlie hasn't said anything to send up red flags, but this post comes from Piggy after having said nothing about Charlie prior:

If Piggy winds up being scum, this makes Charlie look worse in my eyes. Feels like a last ditch save to muddy the waters and create distance.
Now we’re cooking. This is a sound argument.
 

Abby Cadabby

Costume
Going back, Charlie's posts against Piggy read genuine? And he does get the wagon going on Piggy. That's an early unnecessary bus....? But when you have two accounts, throwing one away ain't a big deal. Hell, some might actually really like having just one account. I dunno. I can go REAL tinfoil. Having two accounts opens up tons of shenanigans and opportunities for silly. I'm just going to put a pin on these two for now and let some others chew on it if they think there is something interesting there. If I keep going, I'm going to have yarn up on the wall in a few minutes.
 

Abby Cadabby

Costume
I want to know what @Miss Piggy was doing yesterday. Everything you did yesterday read extremely fake.
My problem with Piggy is a similar problem I have with a bunch of accounts. Fake isn't the word I'd attribute so much as ... Rushed? Like they're struggling to hit their 10 post count, and not having enough to say. If I re-read the few pages we have now and find something interesting to point out, what do I as a player now do with my other account but fluff and nonsense, or quote my own other account, nod along, and say, "yup, genius stuff!" and make it super obvious. This will probably, hopefully, get easier as we get deeper into the game, but D1 is a struggle-and-a-half. Now double that struggle cuz you have two accounts you have to talk with on D1. Hence, I think, the post from Rando for all of us. (Or maybe I'm just projecting way too much). Okay, now I'm really truly done with Piggy for now.

So it turns out our dear friend Shang was a neutral. But you know there's something I can never be neutral about : that silly hairdo AHAHAHA

I keed, I keed
Fuck me. I actually laughed at this one.

Anyway, I'm liking my Mr Mew vote even better today. He was fairly early to the dynamite bandwagon, adding fuel to fire
But I would like to hear more from Mew. In fact, I'm a big fan of puttin' votes down early when able so let's get some prod voting down:

Vote: Mr. Mew

You kind of gave me the business yesterday and were a bit short with responses.
 

Kutaro

Costume
In the spirit of prod voting

Vote: Pinocchio

I didn't love Grogu's quick backtrack but I found pinnochios engagement with Grogu even stranger. Right now this is where I want my vote.
 

Jeff Tracy

Costume
The Dynamite wagon is feeling loosey goosey to me. Needs more of a spark. I think there is more weight behind this one.
Hi-ya!
Vote: Howdy Doody
Piggy abandons the Dynamite vote here. Could be prescient knowing Dynamite will flip town? Or they could have realized that Dynamite was likely vanilla and tried to redirect to bait PR claims.
 

Jeff Tracy

Costume
Maybe, maybe not. Since Shang was a survivor neutral I’m not exactly sure how Randomless would have classified that role (town threat or not). Definitely Dynamite Heady threat, but not necessarily a town threat.

So Shang’s puppet pal could be any alignment,
Wanting a town player dead skews anti-town at the very least
 
I said I think there were risks involved if we didnt have roles that helped determine pairs, but (and i could be wrong) i dont think bert and ernie are two accounts shared by the same player (unless the gamerunner hates us) so that piece of information reveals to me at least we might have similar roles that could help us find pairs. Its very easy to behave in two different ways on different accounts, especially if you are experienced, and I would hazard a guess and say people here haven't played a game like this before. It's something we need to do with caution, as firing blind could get us into an even deeper mess.
Unless I'm missing a post, no this is clearly not what you previously said.
 

Lamb Chop

Costume
Sorry everyone, very busy weekend. I agree the Mew vote looks really bad in hindsight, but I'll hold until they can defend themselves.
 

Howdy Doody

Costume
Going back, Charlie's posts against Piggy read genuine? And he does get the wagon going on Piggy. That's an early unnecessary bus....? But when you have two accounts, throwing one away ain't a big deal. Hell, some might actually really like having just one account. I dunno. I can go REAL tinfoil. Having two accounts opens up tons of shenanigans and opportunities for silly. I'm just going to put a pin on these two for now and let some others chew on it if they think there is something interesting there. If I keep going, I'm going to have yarn up on the wall in a few minutes.
I agree you could do some shenanigans, especially like doubling down on votes. But I maintain that scum would want to keep every account. For them, it's a game of survival
 

Howdy Doody

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Home and catching up. I now feel dumb saying this:
After realizing the flip flatout says: "You know that your best bud, Bert, is a member of the Good Puppets." I assumed scum wouldn't take out a mason buddy they could feed lies to and gather info from, and completely missed that sentence in the flip.

Going back to our votes and who was on who:

The vote on Miss Piggy was:
Ernie - Town
Headdy - Town
Bert - Town
Charlie - ???

-I had Charlie as a town lean D1, but I also had Shang there too.
-We were tied with 4 (Piggy), 4 (Headdy). Oscar next closest with 3.
-If Piggy and Headdy are both town, and Charlie is scum, he wouldn't want to leave that a tie and lose out on a kill.
-If Piggy or Headdy was scum, Charlie had to choose between bussing or saving a scummate.
-Charlie hasn't said anything to send up red flags, but this post comes from Piggy after having said nothing about Charlie prior:

If Piggy winds up being scum, this makes Charlie look worse in my eyes. Feels like a last ditch save to muddy the waters and create distance.
So flip Miss Piggy first then Charlie huh. Interesting. I guess I was thinking the other way. But I do agree that miss piggy's last minute quote saying "look at Charlie" could be read as a bus. Could also be a last minute town plea though
 

Grogu

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Unless I'm missing a post, no this is clearly not what you previously said.
It is a normal complexity game, so while I do think we might have a neutral single or pair running around, I suspect it won't end up too confusing on that front. I feel less like pair-hunting will provide as much value, though, as it would really just be conjecture unless someone has a pair related invest role
This is what I meant to say here; apologies that I wasn't as verbose back then as I thought I was.
 

Howdy Doody

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Damn I wish I were active yesterday, I totally forgot day ended then. I have a couple of observations
Headdy was obviously town, like there was no posts that were even close to trigger my scum radar. Grogu on the other hand, is either a newbie or scum, because saying there's no benefit in finding the pairs is ridiculous since we are forced to connect the dots to vote out both scum accounts of that player.
Vote: Grogu

I am interested in reading grogu, but I guess I don't see the argument of finding pairs or not to be alignment indicative.
 

Mr. Mew

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My problem with Piggy is a similar problem I have with a bunch of accounts. Fake isn't the word I'd attribute so much as ... Rushed? Like they're struggling to hit their 10 post count, and not having enough to say. If I re-read the few pages we have now and find something interesting to point out, what do I as a player now do with my other account but fluff and nonsense, or quote my own other account, nod along, and say, "yup, genius stuff!" and make it super obvious. This will probably, hopefully, get easier as we get deeper into the game, but D1 is a struggle-and-a-half. Now double that struggle cuz you have two accounts you have to talk with on D1. Hence, I think, the post from Rando for all of us. (Or maybe I'm just projecting way too much). Okay, now I'm really truly done with Piggy for now.


Fuck me. I actually laughed at this one.

But I would like to hear more from Mew. In fact, I'm a big fan of puttin' votes down early when able so let's get some prod voting down:

Vote: Mr. Mew

You kind of gave me the business yesterday and were a bit short with responses.
Big surprise one of the players I shaded yesterday came gunning for me early. If you want to call me out for something, go ahead, but if it's about my vote on Headdy then you better call out every other vote there.

That sounds like a really flimsy reason to vote someone
Show me a vote that wasn't flimsy on the first day of a costume game.

So you think he could be scum.......?
Just noise. I thought they could be. I voted. I was wrong.
 

Mr. Mew

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Damn I wish I were active yesterday, I totally forgot day ended then. I have a couple of observations
Headdy was obviously town, like there was no posts that were even close to trigger my scum radar. Grogu on the other hand, is either a newbie or scum, because saying there's no benefit in finding the pairs is ridiculous since we are forced to connect the dots to vote out both scum accounts of that player.
Vote: Grogu
The 20/20 hindsight here is so strong I have to think scum wouldn't be brazen enough to post this thinking it would fly.
 

Topo Gigio

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GAH so frustrating. Poor Ernie.

Shang played a good game. But does that mean there's a second neutral account running around? Not that there's any point in speculating, especially as there's some OK scum leads
Maybe, maybe not. Since Shang was a survivor neutral I’m not exactly sure how Randomless would have classified that role (town threat or not). Definitely Dynamite Heady threat, but not necessarily a town threat.

So Shang’s puppet pal could be any alignment,
 
Literally the only town aligned potential vote on dynamite Heady yesterday is Charlie McCarthy. Charlie voted to potentially keep it from tying and I get that from town POV.

Literally every other vote there should be looked at.

Of those that Mr, Mew vote is rough. Brazenly voting for the “easy” vote? I don’t like it
 

Topo Gigio

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In fact, Charlie is so for sure town. I guarantee it.
Put an Oscar the grouch seal of approval on Charlie McCarthy.
What?!?

how do you go from town aligned to top town?
Your approval is trash.

vote: Oscar the Grouch

@Abby Cadabby i like your thought process on the day 1 vote. Why Mr. mew over Fozzie bear though from a Heady vote perspective?
 

Howdy Doody

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Bleh I don't want to agree with Oscar the Grouch but I do agree the last minute vote from Charlie on Dyna to avoid a tie looks town
 

Fozzie Bear

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Wanting a town player dead skews anti-town at the very least

To be fair, it doesn’t look like Shang knew that Dynamite was town. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to assume that a Hunter is going after a town player for balance sake so she probably knew but inherently, that player would probably be playing for their other puppet’s team goal while still making sure Headdy died asap.

VOTE: Miss Piggy

I’m not sold on the Mew votes at all. I’m also not sold on Charlie being 100% town but I have to assume that is some weird puppet baiting on Oscar.
 

Howdy Doody

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Piggy abandons the Dynamite vote here. Could be prescient knowing Dynamite will flip town? Or they could have realized that Dynamite was likely vanilla and tried to redirect to bait PR claims.

The more I think about it, the more scummy vibes I get from this post.

I think it's the convoluted logic and assumption that Miss Piggy is definitely scum. Which... Why? Townes vote for townies all the time

Total doody
 

Lamb Chop

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What?!?

how do you go from town aligned to top town?
Your approval is trash.

vote: Oscar the Grouch

@Abby Cadabby i like your thought process on the day 1 vote. Why Mr. mew over Fozzie bear though from a Heady vote perspective?
It's not that serious, Oscar could've thought about it a bit more and said they're their top town.
 

Jeff Tracy

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Probably Mr. Mew and Triumph.
Mew I can see, what caught your eye with Triumph?
The more I think about it, the more scummy vibes I get from this post.

I think it's the convoluted logic and assumption that Miss Piggy is definitely scum. Which... Why? Townes vote for townies all the time

Total doody
Maybe you missed the start of my train of thought where Piggy looks worse considering yesterdays votes:
3/3 votes on Miss Piggy at the end of day were town, that looks like a good place to start today
You can disregard the speculation if that is not your cup of tea, the main point I was trying to get across is that Piggy moving off of Dynamite at that moment looks like they were uncomfortable with their vote.
@Miss Piggy what made you want to switch to Howdy?
 

Fozzie Bear

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It’s interesting watching people randomly going to bat for each other for no reason because now the consideration is whether that is just the other half of the puppets or if it’s scum trying to smooth things over.
 
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