Puppet Mafia | Everyone's wearing socks

[Kermit the Frog]

Btw I can stop the poison right now if Howdy claims.

 

[Bert]

LMAO.

 

[Bert]

There is just no way that's a town power.

 

[Bert]

Are you that puppet from Naruto? Sasori I think was the name.

 

[Bert]

Or maybe they never poisoned howdy and this was a gambit to role fish. Man.

Having double the number of accounts make people do wild stuff.

 

[Howdy Doody]

Btw I can stop the poison right now if Howdy claims.

Ahahahhahaahah

How much time do you have left to give me the antidote

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Ahahahhahaahah

How much time do you have left to give me the antidote

2.5 hours but I might go to sleep in 1.5

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Man, you sound more and more like a day vig by the minute but then where is the real poisoner?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

It’s too much to think they forged Piggy’s flip right? We didn’t go into day 2 expecting her to die right? If she is truly that role then a poisoner has to exist. I just don’t believe that we have this delayed ass poison and then it can also be called off too

 

[Kermit the Frog]

It’s too much to think they forged Piggy’s flip right? We didn’t go into day 2 expecting her to die right? If she is truly that role then a poisoner has to exist. I just don’t believe that we have this delayed ass poison and then it can also be called off too

Ain't no way you went from me being surely town/neutral and because I said about the antidote you say I'm scum lmaooo

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Ain't no way you went from me being surely town/neutral and because I said about the antidote you say I'm scum lmaooo

No where in that message did I say you’re scum. I think your antidote is bs though or something in your story is.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

No where in that message did I say you’re scum. I think your antidote is bs though or something in your story is.

Suggesting a forge is calling me scum indirectly.

 

[Bert]

Man, you sound more and more like a day vig by the minute but then where is the real poisoner?

Bruh.

It’s too much to think they forged Piggy’s flip right? We didn’t go into day 2 expecting her to die right? If she is truly that role then a poisoner has to exist. I just don’t believe that we have this delayed ass poison and then it can also be called off too

Bruh. If Kermit is just a vig then why claim to confirm Piggy role exists.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Suggesting a forge is calling me scum indirectly.

Thinking out loud but not necessarily. Piggy is definitely scum because her claim matched her flip and it was only day 2. They would have just forged over her role not her alignment but that makes so little sense and I also think is out of the scope of this game.

You are lying about something though and I can’t figure out what the game here is.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Bruh.


Bruh. If Kermit is just a vig then why claim to confirm Piggy role exists.

I mean, why does Kermit claim at all? It’s doesn’t make sense in most worlds. The only time it makes sense to do that is if he is town. Think about it from a neutral Kermit perspective. When he sees Piggy’s claim, he has no way of knowing if she is scum or town because either team could be countering him. If he is town, he at least knows she has to be scum which makes it safe for him to claim. If he is neutral and claimed that against a potential town Piggy? He’s fucked.

My hang up is the story is so convoluted that I’m finding it hard to believe every aspect. It’s mostly true but it doesn’t seem like it’s all true and I don’t get why.

 

[Bert]

Town Kermit doesn't need to protect Piggy because the claim is the obvious counter to town Kermit poison, and town already seems ready to vote Piggy eventually and they already used their power. Confirming the power is unnecessary if town was already willing to flip Piggy eventually anyway.

Neutral Kermit would want town to kill Piggy since as long as piggy is around they can couter their poison. But then again, they probably don't want to attract attention to themselves so they can keep poisoning others.

Scum Kermit would want to back Piggy's claim so they don't kill Piggy yet, giving there more time and allowing town to maybe vote someone else. Scum would know there is poison so it could be Kermit its just not the poisoner, but might as well try and make a claim and try to control the conversation.

Now that Kermit claims to have a way to stop the poison (that can't be detected, apparently), that's once again the most convenient power... For a Kermit that just isn't town.

 

[Bert]

I mean, why does Kermit claim at all? It’s doesn’t make sense in most worlds. The only time it makes sense to do that is if he is town. Think about it from a neutral Kermit perspective. When he sees Piggy’s claim, he has no way of knowing if she is scum or town because either team could be countering him. If he is town, he at least knows she has to be scum which makes it safe for him to claim. If he is neutral and claimed that against a potential town Piggy? He’s fucked.

My hang up is the story is so convoluted that I’m finding it hard to believe every aspect. It’s mostly true but it doesn’t seem like it’s all true and I don’t get why.

It only makes sense if Kermit wants to protect Piggy. If Kermit is town then they made a mistake claiming and then made a mistake targeting howdy and now is making a mistake claiming to be able to revert the poison.

The Kermit that makes sense is scum Kermit. The other Kermits misplayed.

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Or, day starts when Kermit is asleep and then Kermit has to go to work.
Howdie Doody say your last words, in a few hours you won't be with us.

Curse you Kermit, wish you’d told us yesterday

 

[Bert]

You know what also makes sense? That Kermit never poisoned no one and then choose howdy because Oscar cleared howdy to fish for a roleclaim, hoping to get some utility out of an account that, in their words, wasn't useful anymore.

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Btw I can stop the poison right now if Howdy claims.

Kermit, howdy is town

 

[Bert]

Of course that's assuming the poison conveniently stops even if howdy doesn't claim I can already see it, "They soft claimed so that was enough to stop it".

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Kermit, howdy is town

How do I know that?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Town Kermit doesn't need to protect Piggy because the claim is the obvious counter to town Kermit poison, and town already seems ready to vote Piggy eventually and they already used their power. Confirming the power is unnecessary if town was already willing to flip Piggy eventually anyway.

Neutral Kermit would want town to kill Piggy since as long as piggy is around they can couter their poison. But then again, they probably don't want to attract attention to themselves so they can keep poisoning others.

Scum Kermit would want to back Piggy's claim so they don't kill Piggy yet, giving there more time and allowing town to maybe vote someone else. Scum would know there is poison so it could be Kermit its just not the poisoner, but might as well try and make a claim and try to control the conversation.

Now that Kermit claims to have a way to stop the poison (that can't be detected, apparently), that's once again the most convenient power... For a Kermit that just isn't town.

Claiming doesn’t defend Piggy, that’s where your whole line of logic falls apart

 

[Fozzie Bear]

It only makes sense if Kermit wants to protect Piggy. If Kermit is town then they made a mistake claiming and then made a mistake targeting howdy and now is making a mistake claiming to be able to revert the poison.

The Kermit that makes sense is scum Kermit. The other Kermits misplayed.

There is a difference between misplaying and doing something that makes no sense. Kermit’s claim never helps Piggy. It just never does. That was not something that someone trying to help her would do.

Of course that's assuming the poison conveniently stops even if howdy doesn't claim I can already see it, "They soft claimed so that was enough to stop it".

Let me be very clear. I don’t care what or if Howdy claims. If Howdy does not die today then I am voting Kermit. My contingency in all this is that Kermit’s role is real, if I do not see proof of that role then he is dead to me.

 

[Bert]

Claiming doesn’t defend Piggy, that’s where your whole line of logic falls apart

Then what was the point? Claiming gives validity to Piggy's claim. At worst it create the illusion of distance between them. Can't be a team if their abilities counter each other.

I mostly believe they are neutral that screwed up and that will poison again.

 

[Bert]

There is a difference between misplaying and doing something that makes no sense. Kermit’s claim never helps Piggy. It just never does. That was not something that someone trying to help her would do.

Let me be very clear. I don’t care what or if Howdy claims. If Howdy does not die today then I am voting Kermit. My contingency in all this is that Kermit’s role is real, if I do not see proof of that role then he is dead to me.

Well that's an interesting take. As long as you vote with me one Kermit that's good.

But also that means you don't believe Oscar, correct?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Then what was the point? Claiming gives validity to Piggy's claim. At worst it create the illusion of distance between them. Can't be a team if their abilities counter each other.

I mostly believe they are neutral that screwed up and that will poison again.

The point was to get Piggy killed. That’s the only thing that makes sense. My thing is I’ve literally been out here begging for anyone to counter claim Kermit and no one wants to but now Kermit is laying the groundwork to get out of showing that he really poisoned Howdy and we are running in circles for no reason.

 

[Grogu]

I mean I’m not really going to tread old ground.

I truly believe Kutaro is just piggy’s alt. I know the player behind the accounts can’t defend that logic but Kutaro hasn’t even tried justifying the piggy vote in any way and I’ve brought this up a few times today already. I think piggy wanted to bus herself and used her Kutaro account to do it.

As far as today goes, you, Triumph, and Grogu have all reacted to Kermit in the same way so it’s no a scum tell on its own but Grogu has gone the extra mile to line up different lynches depending on how the room feels on Kermit and it just feels opportunistic.

I’ve made both these points a lot today already, that’s where I’m at. Neither is iron clad but it’s better than voting out someone who is definitely not scum imo.

Could you remind me of your thoughts on Oscar?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Well that's an interesting take. As long as you vote with me one Kermit that's good.

But also that means you don't believe Oscar, correct?

If Oscar wants to make a real claim then I’ll entertain her more but these weak ass crumbs do nothing for me. Regardless though, her insinuations really don’t have anything to do with Kermit. Kermit poisoning someone who ends up being town doesn’t really tell me much about Kermit’s alignment.

 

[Bert]

The point was to get Piggy killed. That’s the only thing that makes sense. My thing is I’ve literally been out here begging for anyone to counter claim Kermit and no one wants to but now Kermit is laying the groundwork to get out of showing that he really poisoned Howdy and we are running in circles for no reason.

Piggy was getting killed anyway. And why would the real poisoner claim? If they are town they can wait until they hit someone useful and if they are neutral they probably hit someone other than howdy.

 

[Bert]

If Oscar wants to make a real claim then I’ll entertain her more but these weak ass crumbs do nothing for me. Regardless though, her insinuations really don’t have anything to do with Kermit. Kermit poisoning someone who ends up being town doesn’t really tell me much about Kermit’s alignment.

How is it breadcrumbs when they literally said "is town".

Do you need full roleclaims for your power or something?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Could you remind me of your thoughts on Oscar?

She’s there. That’s where my thoughts begin and end. If she wants to stop speaking in code then I’ll pay more attention. If not, I’m not worrying about her for a few days, if she is cringing, scum will kill her soon anyway.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

How is it breadcrumbs when they literally said "is town".

Do you need full roleclaims for your power or something?

I said Mew “is town” yesterday. What’s your point?

 

[Bert]

I said Mew “is town” yesterday. What’s your point?

Are you the kind of person who needs a kiss to know if a person is into you?

 

[Grogu]

Sorry, was out for a bit and just saw the kermit stuff. That's *way* too convenient if Kermit can just stop the poisoning. How would that work? If kermit claims he is a 1 shot poisoner than can un-poison a target does that make any sense? I don't think so. I'm liking Bert's ideas more and more

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Piggy was getting killed anyway. And why would the real poisoner claim? If they are town they can wait until they hit someone useful and if they are neutral they probably hit someone other than howdy.

So Piggy was already getting killed anyway and Kermit (who had 0 heat on him) claimed something easily counter claimed so that two scum could die instead of one? This is the scum team in your mind?

The real poisoner in your scenario should have poisoned Kermit last night and just told us by now, doesn’t that make more sense? Or do you think scum has both a poison mirror and poison cure?

 

[Howdy Doody]

Well I honestly don't mind claiming if there's a chance I'll stay alive. Town gains nothing from me dying

@Kermit the Frog I'm a 1 shot bullet proof Vest granter. So pretty much vanilla now

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Sorry Bert, I’m going to take that one as my point. I was closer.

:D

 

[Bert]

So Piggy was already getting killed anyway and Kermit (who had 0 heat on him) claimed something easily counter claimed so that two scum could die instead of one? This is the scum team in your mind?

The real poisoner in your scenario should have poisoned Kermit last night and just told us by now, doesn’t that make more sense? Or do you think scum has both a poison mirror and poison cure?

... What are you talking about? I give several theories but you only pick the ones that bothers you the most instead of picking the ones you might agree with the most. Is it my turn to eat crackers?

Kermit could be lying about everything. There could be two scum teams one with mirror and one with poison. There could be a neutral poisoner that doesn't necessarily have to be Kermit and a poisoner would rather poison someone that might survive long enough to die of poison.

There is many "Could be" but the simplest question we should be asking ourselves is "Is it worth it to let Kermit live another day"

What is more likely, he is town or he is not town?

Then vote on what you believe is more likely.

 

[Kutaro]

I think I want to vote Kermit

 

[Bert]

Sorry Bert, I’m going to take that one as my point. I was closer.

:D

Gee I wonder who got the vest.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Well I honestly don't mind claiming if there's a chance I'll stay alive. Town gains nothing from me dying

@Kermit the Frog I'm a 1 shot bullet proof Vest granter. So pretty much vanilla now

I don't have an antidote, I just wanted some players to come out of hiding to react to my saying I do. Didn't really work, oh well, why did you give the vest to Oscar?

 

[Mr. Mew]

Truth of the matter is this account is useless to me now, flip me if you need to.

A Kermit that can cure doesn't say this. It's a lie.

 

[Grogu]

So now howdy is just going to be ok, i guess.
VOTE: Kermit the Frog
Smells fishy to me, personally. I believe Howdy

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

How do I know that?

Because I told the town.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

So now howdy is just going to be ok, i guess.
VOTE: Kermit the Frog
Smells fishy to me, personally. I believe Howdy

No they won't, they dying in 1 hour and 40 minutes.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

... What are you talking about? I give several theories but you only pick the ones that bothers you the most instead of picking the ones you might agree with the most. Is it my turn to eat crackers?

Kermit could be lying about everything. There could be two scum teams one with mirror and one with poison. There could be a neutral poisoner that doesn't necessarily have to be Kermit and a poisoner would rather poison someone that might survive long enough to die of poison.

There is many "Could be" but the simplest question we should be asking ourselves is "Is it worth it to let Kermit live another day"

What is more likely, he is town or he is not town?

Then vote on what you believe is more likely.

There isn’t two scum teams so I’m not going to entertain theories that need that to be true.

Anyway, you got to the heart of our disagreement. You want to ask the question “is he town or is he not town?” I want to ask the question “is he mafia or is he not mafia?” I’m not voting him if it’s impossible for him to be mafia.

Gee I wonder who got the vest.

That’s fine, I have suspicion from a mason, that makes me way harder to NK than someone with a vest.

 

[Mr. Mew]

So now howdy is just going to be ok, i guess.
VOTE: Kermit the Frog
Smells fishy to me, personally. I believe Howdy

The poison is real. The cure is not.

 

[Bert]

I don't have an antidote, I just wanted some players to come out of hiding to react to my saying I do. Didn't really work, oh well, why did you give the vest to Oscar?

That's... An interesting assumption?

 

[Grogu]

Literally *as* I wrote that Kermit said they didn't have an antidote after all. Smh my head

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Ok, back to my thoughts from an hour ago. Sorry for blowing up your spot Kermit but that was a bad lie.

 

[Bert]

There isn’t two scum teams so I’m not going to entertain theories that need that to be true.

Anyway, you got to the heart of our disagreement. You want to ask the question “is he town or is he not town?” I want to ask the question “is he mafia or is he not mafia?” I’m not voting him if it’s impossible for him to be mafia.

That’s fine, I have suspicion from a mason, that makes me way harder to NK than someone with a vest.

It's a killing role and you don't want to vote Kermit?

You are scum. Only scum benefits from letting the poisoner live.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

It's a killing role and you don't want to vote Kermit?

You are scum. Only scum benefits from letting the poisoner live.

Town vigilantes are killing roles too. Do we also vote them out when we find them?

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Worst case scenario of me lying here was getting a claim from soon be dead howdy, best case scenario we get good info from reactions.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Ok, back to my thoughts from an hour ago. Sorry for blowing up your spot Kermit but that was a bad lie.

Lose nothing from doing it tbh.

 

[Bert]

Town vigilantes are killing roles too. Do we also vote them out when we find them?

So now you believe Kermit is town?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Lose nothing from doing it tbh.

You’re not wrong

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

How do I know that?

Well you didn’t day 1, but not telling us was really anti town, especially because you revealed your role after the scum poison reflector appeared (thus making you two a potential either or)

 

[Fozzie Bear]

So now you believe Kermit is town?

If he is 1-shot, he is town.

If he is more than 1-shot, he is neutral.

I don’t think I’ve spelled it out that specifically but I have never said he is definitely neutral. The only definite I have said is he is not scum.

That also wasn’t my question to you. Don’t be dense.

 

[Bert]

Well you didn’t day 1, but not telling us was really anti town, especially because you revealed your role after the scum poison reflector appeared (thus making you two a potential either or)

Also its very convenient they poisoned the player you claimed to clear.

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Worst case scenario of me lying here was getting a claim from soon be dead howdy, best case scenario we get good info from reactions.

That claim prior to death was and is useless because we get a flip when they die. We get the same reactions either way.

I am pissed because you ran a shitty gambit.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

That claim prior to death was and is useless because we get a flip when they die. We get the same reactions either way.

I am pissed because you ran a shitty gambit.

Wow such a game change that gambit was, we almost lost.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Don’t make me go find it, did Oscar “clear” Howdy today or yesterday?

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Also it’s very convenient they poisoned the player you claimed to clear.

And when he flips town, you’ll know I’m right.

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Don’t make me go find it, did Oscar “clear” Howdy today or yesterday?

Today when we woke up

 

[Bert]

If he is 1-shot, he is town.

If he is more than 1-shot, he is neutral.

I don’t think I’ve spelled it out that specifically but I have never said he is definitely neutral. The only definite I have said is he is not scum.

That also wasn’t my question to you. Don’t be dense.

I already answered that question before. Poisoner is not the same as vig, the timing and the counters are different and they matter. Poisoner NEED time. And you are GIVING them time. Stalling is always what scum wants to do.

Also its funny how you were only voting Kermit if the poison didn't go through, something that you could only worry about if you didn't know the outcome.

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Don’t make me go find it, did Oscar “clear” Howdy today or yesterday?

and if Kermit had told us who he poisoned yesterday it may have been someone else. Or I would have died.
But I for sure wouldn’t have cleared howdy

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Someone please read post #683 of mine so I feel like I'm not being useless. Tell me there is something there or if I'm way off? Talk about anything but green people for a bit?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Today when we woke up

Also its very convenient they poisoned the player you claimed to clear.

So what are you insinuating here? I’m going to assume Howdy really dies in an hour or so. What are you alluding to? At the absolute latest, Kermit had to have poisoned Howdy last night and Oscar didn’t tell us until start of this day phase. So I’m not sure what master plan Kermit could be doing with Oscar’s info.

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Hit me with your best shot

Follow up, and good timing from Triumph while I'm reading that Piggy and Fozzie post:

---Is Triumph Piggy? Did Piggy think they found a neutral serial killer they could get town to go after in Fozzie? I like this theory a lot.

....doesn't explain why Piggy didn't show up to crank up the heat on Kermit after they claimed though if that's the case.....

This one?

 

[Abby Cadabby]

This one?

Yes, please :)

 

[Kermit the Frog]

So what are you insinuating here? I’m going to assume Howdy really dies in an hour or so. What are you alluding to? At the absolute latest, Kermit had to have poisoned Howdy last night and Oscar didn’t tell us until start of this day phase. So I’m not sure what master plan Kermit could be doing with Oscar’s info.

There's literally nothing I could've done, idk why Oscar got mad at me.

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

So what are you insinuating here? I’m going to assume Howdy really dies in an hour or so. What are you alluding to? At the absolute latest, Kermit had to have poisoned Howdy last night and Oscar didn’t tell us until start of this day phase. So I’m not sure what master plan Kermit could be doing with Oscar’s info.

I’m a weak hider of limited but as of now I am not revealing how many shots.

if the poison had happened last night I would be poisoned too.
So I’m pissed

 

[Howdy Doody]

Bah. I don't like this. But I lost nothing by claiming

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Hit me with your best shot

Follow up, and good timing from Triumph while I'm reading that Piggy and Fozzie post:

---Is Triumph Piggy? Did Piggy think they found a neutral serial killer they could get town to go after in Fozzie? I like this theory a lot.

....doesn't explain why Piggy didn't show up to crank up the heat on Kermit after they claimed though if that's the case.....

I mean, I was confused why you said my name since I think you meant Kermit? But otherwise I don’t have much to offer you here. I don’t think Triumph is Piggy. I don’t think Piggy automatically assumes her counter is a neutral SK. It is possible, sure, but I don’t think she goes that hard on a middling theory.

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Yes, please :)

I think the consensus is triumph or kutaro are piggy. Based on when people showed up to post and late votes.

im not sure about why miss piggy didn’t show up to try and rally around voting for Kermit (assuming howdy and/or me die in an hour or so)

 

[Bert]

I’m a weak hider of limited but as of now I am not revealing how many shots.

if the poison had happened last night I would be poisoned too.
So I’m pissed

Oh shit, if Kermit lied and poisoned howdy last night then you'll die too.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

I mean, I was confused why you said my name since I think you meant Kermit? But otherwise I don’t have much to offer you here. I don’t think Triumph is Piggy. I don’t think Piggy automatically assumes her counter is a neutral SK. It is possible, sure, but I don’t think she goes that hard on a middling theory.

Sorry, I should've said Post 675 then 683. But yeah---I meant you.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I’m a weak hider of limited but as of now I am not revealing how many shots.

if the poison had happened last night I would be poisoned too.
So I’m pissed

So where did you crumb yesterday that you would be hiding with Howdy? That’s a pretty important part of being a weak hider

 

[Grogu]

@Abby Cadabby i could see triumph being piggy's 2nd account, but im not sure. I looked into it as best i could with what i had and wasnt able to confirm or deny that theory

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Everyone makes a good point though Oscar, you should be happy if you are poisoned right now. You’d be proving Kermit a liar (acted N2 instead of N1) and then we’d have a better discussion on our hands. I don’t think that’s what we are going to get here though.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Back to scrounging and pondering. There's something there I think. I'm gonna find it.

Abby Cadaby...what a sweet muppet, debuting in 2006 with magical powers. I only wish he could magick some good scum reads! AHAHAHA

I keed, I keed

....I did not get that my name is a play on abracadabra until this....

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Let's plop this corpse on up here and take a look:


These next two drop at almost the same time:


Then:

Oh sure, I see what you mean now. Not like anyone cares that the scum was trying to get me killed. According to Bert, all the scum team has been doing is trying to murder each other.

 

[Bert]

Everyone makes a good point though Oscar, you should be happy if you are poisoned right now. You’d be proving Kermit a liar (acted N2 instead of N1) and then we’d have a better discussion on our hands. I don’t think that’s what we are going to get here though.

Kermit is already a liar tho.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Kermit is already a liar tho.

I need a lie that matters for me to actually care. Playing with his food two hours before they die ain’t it chief.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Kermit is already a liar tho.

It doesn't matter, I'm a wasted vote and everyone except 3 people know this, I can lie if I think it'll benefit town.

 

[Bert]

Oh sure, I see what you mean now. Not like anyone cares that the scum was trying to get me killed. According to Bert, all the scum team has been doing is trying to murder each other.

LMAO what makes you think I think that. My theory is that scum keeps trying to cover each other and said attempts keep backfiring.

 

[Bert]

It doesn't matter, I'm a wasted vote and everyone except 3 people know this, I can lie if I think it'll benefit town.

Do you mind sharing your poison command how does it work exactly?

 

[Jeff Tracy]

It’s too much to think they forged Piggy’s flip right? We didn’t go into day 2 expecting her to die right? If she is truly that role then a poisoner has to exist. I just don’t believe that we have this delayed ass poison and then it can also be called off too

Piggy was 2nd wagon on day 1 so thinking they die day 2 is not unreasonable but forger seems like too much for a normal game.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Do you mind sharing your poison command how does it work exactly?

I mean what else can I say, poison X they die on midday 2 days after.

 

[Bert]

I don't have an antidote, I just wanted some players to come out of hiding to react to my saying I do. Didn't really work, oh well, why did you give the vest to Oscar?

Also did I miss something or why would you say howdy give the vest to Oscar?

 

[Abby Cadabby]

It might be too late for this, but we probably shouldn't try to figure out where the vest went. Scum doesn't need our help figuring that out, right?

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

So where did you crumb yesterday that you would be hiding with Howdy? That’s a pretty important part of being a weak hider

I didn’t crumb checking howdy because of how the games mechanic works.

however, the whole reason why I asked for a PIK yesterday was to see if we could get any consensus review of investigation.

we didn’t, but I want there to be. Instead we did find scum so I went with the weakest (IMO) vote on miss piggy.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

I’m a weak hider of limited but as of now I am not revealing how many shots.

if the poison had happened last night I would be poisoned too.
So I’m pissed

Hmm. I'm not sure on this one, I had doubts on Oscar previously but a weak role who doesn't crumb their target is fishy imo.

 

[Howdy Doody]

I won't reveal who I gave the Vest to, that helps nobody

 

[Fozzie Bear]

LMAO what makes you think I think that. My theory is that scum keeps trying to cover each other and said attempts keep backfiring.

You do you but I have to assume better if the scum team than them just being a constant 3 stooges skit.

Piggy was 2nd wagon on day 1 so thinking they die day 2 is not unreasonable but forger seems like too much for a normal game.

Yeah, I agree. It popped into my head and I wanted to voice it but I don’t think a forger can be in this type of game.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

It might be too late for this, but we probably shouldn't try to figure out where the vest went. Scum doesn't need our help figuring that out, right?

This is correct yes. We can all have our guesses but if Howdy is telling the truth then that truth should die with him.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

Oh shit, if Kermit lied and poisoned howdy last night then you'll die too.

Is that how that works? I'd figure a hide just lasts the night?

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Hmm. I'm not sure on this one, I had doubts on Oscar previously but a weak role who doesn't crumb their target is fishy imo.

I didn’t crumb because of the game mechanics. Think about how the puppets work

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I didn’t crumb checking howdy because of how the games mechanic works.

however, the whole reason why I asked for a PIK yesterday was to see if we could get any consensus review of investigation.

we didn’t, but I want there to be. Instead we did find scum so I went with the weakest (IMO) vote on miss piggy.

Jeff is already going to push the same line but what was your expectation here. You were looking for scum but you had no way for us to figure out who the bad guy was if you actually found them?