RPG Mafia - Secret Chrono Fantasy Trail CIXVI

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
I'm heading off for the night, will catch up when I get to the office tomorrow.

On the subject of work - as an advance heads-up, I might not be around for the run-up to EoD this phase, as my department's planning to decorate the office on Wednesday evening and I'll have to stick around for that.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Also since I will never have an opportunity to flex this anywhere else. I've been unpacking my garage the last few weeks and I found this bad boy (not my picture). So when you talk about full price 13, know that I bought a whole ass special edition console for the game (even if it is just the HDD that was branded)

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Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
I think on Steam Deck FFX is one of those games where you need to change to a specific Proton Version in the Steam game settings to prevent crashes. Never played it completely through on there though.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
So, any quests?

Greetings traveler! We're unable to get the copper mines operating due to those blasted Moloids making a mess of things! If you could go take care of the problem and bring me back 15 Moloid pickaxes I'll have a reward for you when you get back.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Also since I will never have an opportunity to flex this anywhere else. I've been unpacking my garage the last few weeks and I found this bad boy (not my picture). So when you talk about full price 13, know that I bought a whole ass special edition console for the game (even if it is just the HDD that was branded)

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Just in time for the 360's 20th
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Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Chuggernaut energy seems fine, nothing blindingly town, but the progression to solving feels like it makes sense and isn't forced.
sorry that came across as mean I wanted to add a drum emoji at the end but it didn't copy lmao
Now I feel like an expert for getting mine to work.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
How is even the *actual* one entirely too many players lmfao
Look, there's an ISO drop down right there. Eventually you'll find my name and you get to feel a fraction of us players' pain.

I was town in both of those btw, vanilla iirc in Anni
 

The Wizard

Confidently Incorrect
Greetings traveler! We're unable to get the copper mines operating due to those blasted Moloids making a mess of things! If you could go take care of the problem and bring me back 15 Moloid pickaxes I'll have a reward for you when you get back.
I do like me some precious metals.
This isn’t one of those situations where I talk to the Moloid leader and find out they’re a peaceful tribe facing indiscriminate extermination is it?
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Chuggernaut energy seems fine, nothing blindingly town, but the progression to solving feels like it makes sense and isn't forced.

i am going to mirror this read actually. like that you kind of picked up what i was putting down there. also don't think it's clearly town, but i can see the gears turning which is a good sign imo.

also this is just a MU ass point to make and that makes a lot of sense after playing there a bit.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I would have signed up for anni this year because i'm a sicko but it was between qualifiers and semis and i needed a break after that qualifier game lol
 

CaptainNuevo

MDTLA Enthusiast
Staff member
I have an ambitious plan for this game which mostly consists on not embarrassing myself which so far I don't have a great track record on

FWIW I personally don't care if you embarrass yourself. Just don't embarrass me. Remember, kindness (to Captain) wins!
 
I'm personally more of an Octopath, Pokémon and DQ fan. I've yet to play any FF (yes, I know. Blasphemy).
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
I don't remember what my last game was and I am mega tired but at least just chatting about RPGs is a better D1 than normally as far as I remember.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Pals sorry to interrupt the D1 chatter but I have to claim something

I haven't played FFVII
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Before I go to bed:

Motivational post about giving reads the chance to blossom instead of forcing them

I can't be arsed to actually write it
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Literally the most surface level read I can throw out with what we have so far. I always like the person who tries to pull the game kicking and screaming from the contractually obligated banter and I also appreciate that Ty acknowledged it so the mildest smiles at Chuggs and Ty.

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(I haven't played in so long)
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Anyone wants to talk mechanics with me?
I think the mechanics make easy to justify(for scum) an early hammer by saying they wanted the exp the next day.

I think we should agree to not hammer without wide consensus by the town
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Anyone wants to talk mechanics with me?

Idk that I like that this game, at least early on, incentivizes everyone to steamroll one vote instead of having good competing wagons. Once we unlock all three of our skills, it can even out more but as it stands, the game really does just want us all pick one person and get everyone we can onto the vote to min-max exp.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Ok, one more
Anyone wants to talk mechanics with me?
I'd love to if I wasn't half asleep, but do we really know anything other than skills need XP?
Not gonna stop you discussing that if it helps you figure stuff out, just don't accidentally out something you shouldn't.

Pals sorry to interrupt the D1 chatter but I have to claim something

I haven't played FFVII
I haven't played any FF (:
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I think the mechanics make easy to justify(for scum) an early hammer by saying they wanted the exp the next day.

I think we should agree to not hammer without wide consensus by the town
I'm less concerned about this. We should agree to that regardless because that's how we usually play it but even with that excuse, someone doing an unwanted hammer is going to be put under massive scrutiny.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Who here has played the 13 trilogy so I know who not to vote for today
I have! They kinda suck, but 13-2 is randomly kinda awesome. It’s like a weird riff on Chrono Trigger. Just don’t pay too much attention to the dialogue.

Idk that I like that this game, at least early on, incentivizes everyone to steamroll one vote instead of having good competing wagons. Once we unlock all three of our skills, it can even out more but as it stands, the game really does just want us all pick one person and get everyone we can onto the vote to min-max exp.
Maybe if we don’t collectively sit on our hands til close to day end it’ll work itself into multiple competing wagons close to majority. We’re rusty but maybe also a bit incentivized to not completely throw the first game in many moons.
 

Franconp

Frank
no but also i want to know what you have to say about it

Pretty much what has been said:

I think the mechanics make easy to justify(for scum) an early hammer by saying they wanted the exp the next day.

I think we should agree to not hammer without wide consensus by the town

Idk that I like that this game, at least early on, incentivizes everyone to steamroll one vote instead of having good competing wagons. Once we unlock all three of our skills, it can even out more but as it stands, the game really does just want us all pick one person and get everyone we can onto the vote to min-max exp.

I see that I was not the only one that was thinking about that. With one of the 3 ways of getting xp being being in the leading wagon at the end of day it incentivates people to jump in the leading wagon to get that sweet xp. It could make reading the vote tool of old days a real pain.

Also, even if you are lucky and get all the xp you can, you need to get to day five to get all your abilities. A tier 3 ability can't be learned until N3.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
i actually personally think we should still be holding people to task for dodgy vote jumping. i do not in fact think "but the xp" is a great excuse when that applies to every player in the game
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Couldn't even wait for everyone to check in before you stop meme posting you guys stink
 

CaptainNuevo

MDTLA Enthusiast
Staff member
(Why is the game attempting to set up rules and influence how we'll view actions as a collective? Shouldn't we just play as we see fit? Don't be Afraid. If you Force Your Way you will be The Winner.)

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turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Fran looking at mechanics is typical Fran behavior but slightly town lean for me(disclaimer I don't think I have ever played with scum Fran)

Sorian wanting to do his own thing even if it could damage the town is classic Sorian too - null (neutral?)

Chuggs following suit seemed a bit weird to me, smelled a bit as trying to overdo the town act to me - slight scum read

VOTE: Chuggs
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Fran looking at mechanics is typical Fran behavior but slightly town lean for me(disclaimer I don't think I have ever played with scum Fran)

Sorian wanting to do his own thing even if it could damage the town is classic Sorian too - null (neutral?)

Chuggs following suit seemed a bit weird to me, smelled a bit as trying to overdo the town act to me - slight scum read

VOTE: Chuggs

I actually town read this
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Y'know I thought the thread would be busier with it being the first game in a good long while + all
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Y'know I thought the thread would be busier with it being the first game in a good long while + all
I thought that too but we have to consider is only a 21 players game and not a 25+ as we used to run frequently
 
Yeah. Sorry. As you know, I'm not exacty the most active person.

Rereading the thread and the mechanics (which I somehow missed on my first read through). I do think that people instinct-voting isn't' by itself a reason to suspect them. However, people jumping into a large bandwagon just because they want the XP is a weaker excuse.

Both sides (and independents, if they exist in this game) are incentivized to unlock their powers relatively early but I'm not sure if scum will be super eager to jump into bandwagons that are just starting. They'll probably try to lay low and then start throwing shade at people that were reckless in bandwagoning on day 1.

As for reads. It's still too early to say. I'll have to let a bit more time to pass before I make any judgements.
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Yeah. Sorry. As you know, I'm not exacty the most active person.

Rereading the thread and the mechanics (which I somehow missed on my first read through). I do think that people instinct-voting isn't' by itself a reason to suspect them. However, people jumping into a large bandwagon just because they want the XP is a weaker excuse.

Both sides (and independents, if they exist in this game) are incentivized to unlock their powers relatively early but I'm not sure if scum will be super eager to jump into bandwagons that are just starting. They'll probably try to lay low and then start throwing shade at people that were reckless in bandwagoning on day 1.

As for reads. It's still too early to say. I'll have to let a bit more time to pass before I make any judgements.

That's okay lol, I want to be clear I'm not shading anyone or anything I just was anticipating a lot of activity early on, not a big deal or anything by any means.
 

Franconp

Frank
Is like 1 AM for the Euro folks, right? I think most of them are sleep now.

Who hasn't checked in? TWE, Geno, Blarg, Melon and Zipped?
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Gonna call it a night here anyways it's past 1AM lmao.

Given its the only real thing that has pinged me as off so far I'd be interested to hear thoughts on Ty4on's post #142. I appreciate he said he was going to bed but the fact that he post a bit after that and then dipped after the error he made feels a little off to me IDK.

So a genuine innocent mistake or a slip because scum do have the ability to share XP or maybe even a secret 3rd thing, would love to hear thoughts from y'all.
 
That's okay lol, I want to be clear I'm not shading anyone or anything I just was anticipating a lot of activity early on, not a big deal or anything by any means.

No worries.

Wait. I missed the memo about being able to share XP? I've read the rules twice and didn't notice that. Perhaps it's because I'm tired.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
No worries.

Wait. I missed the memo about being able to share XP? I've read the rules twice and didn't notice that. Perhaps it's because I'm tired.

We can't. Hedin said later on page 1 we can't and HP is wondering if Ty slipped and scum actually can share XP

I don't think it's a slip, but I do actually want to hear what Ty has to say about it when he gets back
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
No worries.

Wait. I missed the memo about being able to share XP? I've read the rules twice and didn't notice that. Perhaps it's because I'm tired.
We can't, that's the point. Ty4on claimed we could but there's nothing in the game thread stating that.

So did he slip because someone on the scum team has that ability or did he just make a genuine mistake, that's the question.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Multi quoting is still a pain in the ass on mobile so sorry if I don’t quote someone.

In less serious news, I like how the implication is we get exp for being a part of someone’s murder.

In more game specific things, I read that share xp comment earlier and just assumed that I missed reading a rule somewhere but now I see that I’m not the only one confused. That is a weird comment and one I might jump on when I actually sit down later and read again.

Turm’s comment on me also feels like busy work, me acting like myself and then calling it a neutral tell is just low hanging fruit. I appreciate that we are early enough that surface level reads will lead to discussion but that and my opposite light town read on Chuggs pinged me on that post.
 

Franconp

Frank
I thought that it was a mistake at the moment but rereading now I can see the possibility of being a slip. I would like to read what Ty have to say about that.

But my read from this until Ty comes back here is that Ty and HP aren't scum partners at least. Why would ScumHP bring that up in the thread about his partner scumTy when he isn't around to clarify and let it sit here for several hours? I don't have a read on the aligments of neither of them yet.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Turm’s comment on me also feels like busy work, me acting like myself and then calling it a neutral tell is just low hanging fruit. I appreciate that we are early enough that surface level reads will lead to discussion but that and my opposite light town read on Chuggs pinged me on that post.

My whole thing with Turms post is that's

1. the first serious vote all game

2. I think the first actual scum read of the game?

and I just find scum usually plays a bit more passive than that. like it's nothing he can't walk back, but he's putting himself out there in a way I just don't see scum doing.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I thought that it was a mistake at the moment but rereading now I can see the possibility of being a slip. I would like to read what Ty have to say about that.

But my read from this until Ty comes back here is that Ty and HP aren't scum partners at least. Why would ScumHP bring that up in the thread about his partner scumTy when he isn't around to clarify and let it sit here for several hours? I don't have a read on the aligments of neither of them yet.

Yeah I think this is a safe unpairing
 
Fran looking at mechanics is typical Fran behavior but slightly town lean for me(disclaimer I don't think I have ever played with scum Fran)

Sorian wanting to do his own thing even if it could damage the town is classic Sorian too - null (neutral?)

Chuggs following suit seemed a bit weird to me, smelled a bit as trying to overdo the town act to me - slight scum read

VOTE: Chuggs

I actually town read this
I actually scum read this. So there.
Is like 1 AM for the Euro folks, right? I think most of them are sleep now.

Who hasn't checked in? TWE, Geno, Blarg, Melon and Zipped?
Alright I’m pissed. 3 scum right here. It’s gospel.
 
I thought that it was a mistake at the moment but rereading now I can see the possibility of being a slip. I would like to read what Ty have to say about that.

But my read from this until Ty comes back here is that Ty and HP aren't scum partners at least. Why would ScumHP bring that up in the thread about his partner scumTy when he isn't around to clarify and let it sit here for several hours? I don't have a read on the aligments of neither of them yet.
Y’all are too quick to unpair people.
 
Need to hear Ty’s reasoning for saying what he did. I agree that it was a slip rather than not knowing the mechanics. I for one didn’t read the rules at all and thus had no reason to think XP was shareable. Clearly he did. So there, hm hm!
 
Which post? Turm or Chuggs?



Why?
I am always freaked out by people attempting to pair themselves with one another in some way on Day 1. Whether it be good or bad. Freaky stuff.

You called me out. Now we’re enemies for…..5 more minutes. 7:13p my time. Then we’re good.
 

Franconp

Frank
Y’all are too quick to unpair people.

Maybe. It's D1 and I'm looking at things but why bring a potential slip from a partner in the thread when his partner won't be around for a while? It give town a lot of time to get paranoid about Ty and in D1 without much to talk about it's risky for scum.

And for the record I just said that they aren't scum partners to me. They still can be both town and be paired.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Maybe. It's D1 and I'm looking at things but why bring a potential slip from a partner in the thread when his partner won't be around for a while? It give town a lot of time to get paranoid about Ty and in D1 without much to talk about it's risky for scum.

And for the record I just said that they aren't scum partners to me. They still can be both town and be paired.

No this is how I see it too. I don't really see a world where scum HP does this to scum Ty especially this early.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
My whole thing with Turms post is that's

1. the first serious vote all game

2. I think the first actual scum read of the game?

and I just find scum usually plays a bit more passive than that. like it's nothing he can't walk back, but he's putting himself out there in a way I just don't see scum doing.
Meh, not really putting himself out that much imo.



I agree that a scum HP doesn’t call out a scum Ty at least. No real reason to since it had already lingered awhile.
 
Maybe. It's D1 and I'm looking at things but why bring a potential slip from a partner in the thread when his partner won't be around for a while? It give town a lot of time to get paranoid about Ty and in D1 without much to talk about it's risky for scum.

And for the record I just said that they aren't scum partners to me. They still can be both town and be paired.
Possible, but I don’t like saying people are definitely this or that on Day 1. Other than I’m definitely Town.
 
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