It’s okay we’re no longer enemies. Can’t speak for the rest of them…
(I was kidding, in no way did I see you as “calling me out”)
RPG Mafia - Secret Chrono Fantasy Trail CIXVI
- Thread starter Hedin
- Start date
(I was kidding, in no way did I see you as “calling me out”)
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Can we be enemies TWE
I'll be honest, I'm not even sure where the notion of sharing XP being a possibility would come from at all.
Like, I know that Hedin specifically said we couldn't, but why were enough people asking about that prior to the game starting? Maybe I'm just selfish, but why would anyone's thought be that we should share xp to an unknown actor?
Like, I know that Hedin specifically said we couldn't, but why were enough people asking about that prior to the game starting? Maybe I'm just selfish, but why would anyone's thought be that we should share xp to an unknown actor?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
On the flip side, you almost certainly would as scum too. Doesn’t mean this isn’t a genuine read though.
Posting that much sounds exhausting, I’m old. My fingers aren’t as spry as they used to be.
I’m not really swayed on it being a slip of any real merit, but it’s at least something getting reactions out which I do think might be helpful.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah that's kind of where I am. I thinkkkkk I know what happened, but I want to hear it from Ty and I think it's helpful letting it play out in the meantime
Franconp
Frank
I didn't asked Hedin about sharing but maybe someone doesn't think that they abilities are that good and giving their xp to someone else with a better power would be a better use.
Yeah, the thought just never crossed my mind is all. Maybe I'm fundamentally broken as a human being and lack collaborative tendencies now.
Oh well.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Just got done traveling, and see that after I said I was alive we just started! Yay! Good to have a game again after all this time.
so have we mass claimed? Killed our confirmed Dr? Gave permanent town cred to all of the scum team?
you know standard Resetera mafia stuff…
so have we mass claimed? Killed our confirmed Dr? Gave permanent town cred to all of the scum team?
you know standard Resetera mafia stuff…
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Hi everyone this is my first game--
So rude.
Votes for FFVI are sus af.
2. Shadow Hearts
3. Shadow Hearts 2
4. Shadow Hearts
5. Final Fantasy VII
Let me read stuff. I guess.
I have one bit. Why would you steal my bit? :(
So rude.
Votes for FFVI are sus af.
1. Shadow Hearts 2
2. Shadow Hearts
3. Shadow Hearts 2
4. Shadow Hearts
5. Final Fantasy VII
Let me read stuff. I guess.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Debating if should post my Xbox with the FF13 faceplate. Guess the UK peeps will have to trust it exists since memeing is now forbidden there (probably Donnie's doing).Also since I will never have an opportunity to flex this anywhere else. I've been unpacking my garage the last few weeks and I found this bad boy (not my picture). So when you talk about full price 13, know that I bought a whole ass special edition console for the game (even if it is just the HDD that was branded)
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Top 5 RPGs? That is a tough one. In no particular order:
xenogears, FF VI, chrono trigger, trails to Azure and Persona 4.
yeah that looks ok.
xenogears, FF VI, chrono trigger, trails to Azure and Persona 4.
yeah that looks ok.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Like a good list!
Fireblend
ABLF
Heading to bed. My only real thought so far is I'm glad of the exp share slip because it at least got us into the game proper. I could see there being a role that hands out extra XP or something, but I don't think Ty having that role would lead to that particular kind of misspeaking and it wouldn't surprise me if ty was town and just happened to misremember what they'd read. Otoh I could kinda see a scum member slipping like that if that team could pool their XP together and it'd sure be nice if our job was suddenly much easier but also there's enough people chasing that thread already and Ty should say their piece before hyperfixating.
Yeah. Truly bad votes. I don't want to play games with tasteless heathens. I would also like to publicly state that LIKING FF6 AND CLAIMING IT IS THE BEST 2D FF IS NOT BEING NICE TO ME.
Also I never made a list so...
1. Final Fantasy 8: Remastered
2. Final Fantasy 8
3. Final Fantasy II
4. Final Fantasy 1+2: Dawn of Souls
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
Sawneeks
little green dog
ugh fine i guess it's time be serious
chuggs seems fine but he's got Experience in mu recently so im afraid of being backstabbed
ty falls in the same realm but i'm less town-y on him
idk about turm i'd have to stare at his vote more to get an opinion on it
captain gives me bad vibes but i'm not sure if it's nerves from having not played in a while or actual scum stuff.
uhhhh let me actually start taking notes or something
sadly we're being lame and havent done that yet. i'm sure we will in time though
chuggs seems fine but he's got Experience in mu recently so im afraid of being backstabbed
ty falls in the same realm but i'm less town-y on him
idk about turm i'd have to stare at his vote more to get an opinion on it
captain gives me bad vibes but i'm not sure if it's nerves from having not played in a while or actual scum stuff.
uhhhh let me actually start taking notes or something
if we're doing off-the-cuff reads then this makes me think fireblend isnt scum (neutral is still possible but tbh i townread this)
ok Nat is off the list too
right???? i leave for a few hours and suddenly it's time to 'play the game'
hi zipped!!! good to see you!
sadly we're being lame and havent done that yet. i'm sure we will in time though
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
Chuggernaut (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #169
turmoil7 (1 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #36
Not voting: Blargonaut, Alexem, Natiko, The Wizard, Neon, Muffin, TheWorthyEdge, HPSauce, Fireblend, Sawneeks, Sorian, Franconp, malus, Zippedpinhead, Chuggernaut, melonrabbit, Ty4on, nin1000, Geno
Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 33 HPSauce: 20 Franconp: 16 Sawneeks: 14 turmoil7: 14 Sorian: 13 Ty4on: 12 CaptainNuevo: 11 Fireblend: 9 TheWorthyEdge: 7 Muffin: 5 Alexem: 5 Natiko: 4 The Wizard: 4 Neon: 4 Zippedpinhead: 3 melonrabbit: 3 nin1000: 2
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Day Start
Chuggernaut (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #169
turmoil7 (1 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #36
Not voting: Blargonaut, Alexem, Natiko, The Wizard, Neon, Muffin, TheWorthyEdge, HPSauce, Fireblend, Sawneeks, Sorian, Franconp, malus, Zippedpinhead, Chuggernaut, melonrabbit, Ty4on, nin1000, Geno
Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 33 HPSauce: 20 Franconp: 16 Sawneeks: 14 turmoil7: 14 Sorian: 13 Ty4on: 12 CaptainNuevo: 11 Fireblend: 9 TheWorthyEdge: 7 Muffin: 5 Alexem: 5 Natiko: 4 The Wizard: 4 Neon: 4 Zippedpinhead: 3 melonrabbit: 3 nin1000: 2
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melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
You're a wizard. Should you be the one handing them out?
Just hit skip.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Are you playing the same version of game as everyone else? Or did you get the remake? I hear they added a lot of QOL updates.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
Couldn't be me. Ima use those xp for myself regardless of how little useful I am, even if we could share, where is the fun in that
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Don't agree with me, Cap. I don't like it. >:(
Idk if we can count the Yakuza series as J-RPGs. This is could be an invalid list which is illegal. We need an official ruling on this one.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Sharing is the scum way.
But rarely the town way.
But rarely the town way.
Sawneeks
little green dog
"Born with a heart full of neutrality"
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Him bringing up the Ty thing
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Can you point me to the post. I missed this.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Isn't that just muffin's way?
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Nin's dlc.
Let's run with the hypotheticals for now.
if Ty can truly share xp then there must be a group mechanic. It could definitely be scum who can pool their XP. Alternatively it could be a neutral cult/neighbors/lovers situation.
If Ty is a scum/aggressive-neutral and slipped: Then their scum partners would most likely try and move the spotlight somewhere else and not try to get much attention on Ty. Since there is some talk of the topic (it's kinda the only topic right now), most of them would likely remain at the fringes of the conversation. In this possibility, I could see HP as not being a scum, and also I'd read TheWorthyEdge as slightly town for their insistence that it was a slip.
if Ty is town and slipped or was simply confused about the mechanics: Then it is more likely that scum would support the angle that Ty is indeed scum. In this situation, based purely upon gut feeling based on the interactions so far, I'd think that someone in the turm, Chuggs and Fran group would be a scum trying to fan the flames. But there has been too little interactions for me to get a good read on them.
I guess I'll leave this till tomorrow afternoon (since my morning is busy with work). Hopefully we'll have more to chew on by then.
if Ty can truly share xp then there must be a group mechanic. It could definitely be scum who can pool their XP. Alternatively it could be a neutral cult/neighbors/lovers situation.
If Ty is a scum/aggressive-neutral and slipped: Then their scum partners would most likely try and move the spotlight somewhere else and not try to get much attention on Ty. Since there is some talk of the topic (it's kinda the only topic right now), most of them would likely remain at the fringes of the conversation. In this possibility, I could see HP as not being a scum, and also I'd read TheWorthyEdge as slightly town for their insistence that it was a slip.
if Ty is town and slipped or was simply confused about the mechanics: Then it is more likely that scum would support the angle that Ty is indeed scum. In this situation, based purely upon gut feeling based on the interactions so far, I'd think that someone in the turm, Chuggs and Fran group would be a scum trying to fan the flames. But there has been too little interactions for me to get a good read on them.
I guess I'll leave this till tomorrow afternoon (since my morning is busy with work). Hopefully we'll have more to chew on by then.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
I think I’m in a similar spot to Chuggs where I have an idea on the Ty situation but would rather hear it explained by Ty than cut it short
I'm 100% aware that I'm doing it too but I think it's weird that everyone is being coy about this Ty thing. I feel like I've seen the sentiment of "I have feeling X about this but I'm going to wait and see what Ty says." If Ty is town then that could just be hiding scum waiting to see if town is planning to go with it and if Ty is scum, that could be his teammates waiting to see if they have to bus or it will blow over. What's frustrating is this laid back wait and see approach would be a scum tell if it wasn't most of the players on the last page.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Literally like clockwork. This is somehow everyone's stance.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
oh whoops Vote: Neon
sadly, it seems to be the only topic of the night so far. Though it appears I'm about to become a topic.
Too ambivalent?
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
a spade is a
like this exp hack either exist or doesn't.
Ppl are definitely being coy but I also don't think the slip itself says much about Ty's alignment. I'd be more interested to flip elsewhere down the chain.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
if you really REALLY want to know i'll just tell you, but i really do think there's an easy explanation for it and i would rather have Ty say it first to just so we can drop this and move on.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Chuggs tried to give me one but it sounded a bit genocidal tbh.
Can you help me find my hat?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I'll say just in general I think the reactions to the whole thing point to Ty being town
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Look man it's up to you to figure out how to get those pickaxes you don't have to kill them
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I'll accept your quest.
Chuggs tried to give me one but it sounded a bit genocidal tbh.
Can you help me find my hat?
What type of hat are you missing? Where did you last see it?
You think there's something to note about everyone wanting to stall discussion for a few hours out of our 48 until ty wakes up?
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I think that post reads as TMI.
The Ty is scum scenario reads as kind of half baked whole the the Ty is town one feels like the one you actually think it is and it reads like you're using this as a way to throw shade on me, Fran, and Turms there without really giving much in terms of why that makes us scum.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
We can talk about other things there's nothing stopping you. Be the change you want to see
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
I mean I can say my sentiment it doesn’t feel like a slip, I just didn’t really feel like typing out maybe they meant it X way before seeing the reaction itself
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
...whatever. (I'm really not bothered by it)
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Are you required to post this at least once every page or just happenstance?
In other things to consider:
Assuming the sample role and its exp requirements are standardized for all roles, the earliest a single role can use all its abilities is night 5.
Make of that what you will. I'm going to grind my SeeD rank up.
Assuming the sample role and its exp requirements are standardized for all roles, the earliest a single role can use all its abilities is night 5.
Make of that what you will. I'm going to grind my SeeD rank up.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Between you, Chuggs, and HP I'm seeing more repeated dialog than I would like to see.
... maybe I should sleep.
... maybe I should sleep.
I don't really think anyone needs to dig Ty out, no, even though I can tell you really want to say the answer Chuggs. More my point is that Ty's alignment doesn't really matter at this point. I don't think the comment actually tells me anything but I do think scum would have taken the wait and see approach. My problem is everyone is just kind of reacted the same way.
I mostly try to work things out in a logical log-making way. Both scenarios were based on what I'd seen out of the reactions so far and applying my limited experience on mafia games. They are half baked because I don't have enough information either way.
It was hypotheticals based on something we won't have information about for at least a few hours. Both scenarios are equally likely for me because I can't see what you are seeing in Ty.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Are you Squalling for fun or business?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Okay let's say Ty is town then just for the sake of digging into that a little. Why do you think that makes me, Fran, and Turms likely scum from the posts we have about it
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Is there any that stick out to you as being more scummy than others
I don't currently possess enough information to feel like answering that question is going to help this game. I'll reconsider the possibilities of asking me that overnight and may give you an actual answer depending.
Anyhow, regardless of my answer I'm enjoying it.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
...whatever
The later the reaction came, the worse it looked. Wizard almost exactly echoing multiple people before him and Fireblend basically doing the same an hour or two before. I would lump in Neon but I actually agree with what he's saying and he's actually debating different worlds and what they'd mean and not just taking the passive approach. If anything I think Neon and TWE come out looking good in this whole thing.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Meme your best life.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Honestly I think Febe and Wiz are clear enough that they don't really think it's a slip enough where I just don't really see it as passive. Also I feel like Wiz is kind of mindmelding with me a bit so I don't really want to go down that road there specifically. I do agree about TWE seeming fine though.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
The shade is really not helping tbh, but I just want to see him follow up on those reads because I just don't think they're actually real right now. That's the kind of things you say when you're hoping town will just fill in the blanks of a flimsy read for you
Fran mostly because, if i'm reading they thread correctly, was they first to correct ty on their "slip" if Ty was Town, that could be scum Fran painting a target?. You and Turm stuck on my mind bacause the topic of Ty took of around that time. On a reread, You mostly decouple Ty from HP because of his response to the slip. Bye that logic if Ty was Town, it could be You vetting HP based on your Town read of Ty. But then again it would make little sensei that scum would be vetting so early and it would mean I would hace to suspect HP as well.
As for Turm. That was, admittedly poor reading on my part. I saw all of the posts around the conversación and Turm stuck in my mind. It is a shoddy reason and not really an excuse. I apologize for that.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
if Chuggs wasn't sus I'd be mighty suspicious of him.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
It’s a pointy hat with stars on it, I last had it by the Mysterious Woods and I heard strange animal noises to the West.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Can you point me to the Fran post you're looking at?
So you think scum me is using this moment to get town cred for scum HP?
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
I don’t see why the timing is so significant here?
I’d need to read what Neon said more closely to make a judgement there, I am wary by default when people start building reasoning on top of an unflipped player since that’s easy busywork masquerading as solving.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
^ this one I'd assume.
Idk why I'm helping you when you didn't help me.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
because you're cool like that
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I still don't know what reaction Sorian wanted to see ...
We sleeping or tired over here. And for some of us this is our first game and it's very challenging to understand how to play.
We sleeping or tired over here. And for some of us this is our first game and it's very challenging to understand how to play.
Fran's post is 153 which is before HP's stance on the matter which is post 180. That was the first response towards his supposed slip.
As for the second. I think it could be a possibility, assuming that Ty is Town of course. Then again, remember what I said. This is all hypothetical and I have nothing to base it on save for entertaining possibilities.
Anyways. I'm pretty much grasping at straws here with so little to go on.
And with that, I really should be asleep right now. GN everybody. May your quests be fruitful.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Oh my emoji didn't post
Angry face.
Angry face.
It gets to a point where people repeating the same things starts to look like scum busy work. It's not completely fair because maybe you just checked in and wanted to be involved but it didn't really add anything to the conversation (aside from getting Chuggs to like you more I guess).
TWE's reaction was good so I guess that. Everyone wants to claim being rusty and not having played in a while but a minor slip like that a few years ago would have had people tunneling hard and here everyone is suddenly keeping a level head and wanting all the facts.
I think this is a roundabout way of me saying that I don't expect good play from this community now that I typed it all out lol
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
But Fran doesn't give an opinion until #185 (which would be after HP) unless I'm missing something. In #153 Fran just cites where Hedin says you cannot share xp.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
that's like your assumption or whatever. I've never been good at this bb.
Sawneeks
little green dog
sorian I think youre just mad we all grew up and got smart
I don't know what being nice to me constitutes but it certainly isn't this. You're breaking the one rule I set up.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Don't worry I'll find it.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Does a scum!sorian go for pointing out the 'wait and see people' as scummy on a scum!ty discussion this early? Nah probably not.
Does a scum!sorian do this to a town!ty? :thinking:
Possible, especially knowing that Ty isn't scum gives him the cushion to fall back on if the Ty thing stumbles out of control and he dies. Sorian can be a "I told you so" and lock in on those few people he pointed out. Those few people likely having 1 scum in it 'to be safe' and hedge his bets he can keep that buddy alive.
I also personally dislike not caring for Ty's alignment in this whole thing as it does change things. Scum have and can be confident and bold in the early game, but typically not to a fellow scummate.
Tl:Dr sorian and ty likely aren't wolves together. I don't like throwing away Ty's alignment in the equation since the 'tell' he is looking for is kind of a toss up.
Dunno if I'd vote him today but I'd keep an eye on him once people start flipping (aka ty, chuggs, and maybe wiz/febe)
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Bystander calling others passive for reasons.
"...whatever."
(Sorian feels less like he's driving discussion forcefully than I remember.)
(Is that intentional? I don't remember...)
(Melon is responding quickly and engaged in talk. Feels more confident in strategy.)
(Can I "TRUST" them?)
(Some people felt like they tried to pull a role name from me.)
(But why would they expect that type of name?)
(I don't know anybody here's name... What's mine?)
(I don't like being forced in this position.)
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Same here. Nothing in the game specific rules made me think there was a share xp mechanic, but apparently enough people asked for Hedin to make a separate post about it.
Hey now, we haven't eliminated the doctor yet!
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
I misread this part
Just read the first part and figured they could be exchanged between players. Bad mistake because I had already read that part earlier, but forgot it was worded like that.
I thought the framing of the posts after about XP were about sharing them.
/defense
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
I only play the originals :dabsonic:
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Sharing in mafia is the best. Makes reads much more impactful.
From my PoV we have very little xp and I have yet to read of ways to gain xp (I see people talking about hammers, haven’t read how that works yet) so in order for anyone to gain a meaningful amount that seemed to make sense.
Speculation: Sharing among mafia kinda makes sense, but also feels a bit cheap. Anni typically has similar mechanics (gain stuff from events), but scum has to work for it the same way as town and are restricted from working together on events. They already have a huge mechanical advantage from sharing a chat and everything they know.