RPG Mafia - Secret Chrono Fantasy Trail CIXVI

[Sawneeks]

It’s not like a “oh Sorian has to be town” but I get the impression he believes what he’s saying just based on our back and forth. I think he’s stubborn. But that’s nothing new and that doesn’t make him scum

Ngl this feels like a nothing read. Sorian believing what he says is true of both alignments and that's weird to me you're giving it an alignment.

 

[Sorian]

The hottest new meme on MU is that slips aren't real. By new I mean 2017 which was last year.

I can't believe its 2018 already. Where has the time gone?

 

[Chuggernaut]

I've only skimmed so far and hope to get time much later to catch up.

The votes aren't exciting to me and I'm bummed about it. Why are people on turm?

Should I vote chuggs and bring it up to a 3 way tie? Could be exciting.

I need to read over the whole Ty slip thing again. I keep seeing it and just eyes glazing over it. Boring, but I'll read it again tonight. I remember not liking his return response to it but I cant quantify why.

Urge…to vote…Neeks…rising

 

[Geno]

There’s multiple ways to resolve that slot without actually flipping him this is role madness baby

I mean fair enough if it resolves in other ways before the flip happens

 

[Geno]

This is a man who does not think of what Ty will flip as, he just knows that the mechanics need Ty to flip. Thank you for proving my above point.

I think all three of the Ty voters are in this camp, I don't even think this is a scum tell because I used to take advantage of MU players who thought like this all the time.

I 100% believe Ty flips scum

 

[Sawneeks]

Urge…to vote…Neeks…rising

do it coward

 

[Ty4on]

The use of info flip on day one bothers me with Alex. Usually info flip is a few days in and there's some unresolved counterwagon it would be good to have the answer to.

Just as I was wanting to vote Alexem.

There's the worry it's a playstyle thing, but I dislike the lack of commitment:

Spoiler: Posts

Ah, I see Ty gave his reasoning while I was writing my post. I absolutely get that it can be easy to misread instructions, I think that's something we can all do from time to time. Still, I can't quite make the connection from 'exchange experience points for one of your available abilities' to exchanging points with other players - I don't know where that part could have come from.

It could well have been an honest mistake, but under the circumstances and given the wording of the instruction, that jump to concluding it's for sharing experience makes me feel uneasy. Counterpoint, though - if, for the sake of argument, Ty's got access to another chat, would it not make more sense for him to clarify there?

I think where I am on Ty is this - there's a good chance that it really was an honest mistake. But. There's still a question mark there for me. It's not much, but it is a seed of doubt. I'm not going to rush into things, as there's still over a day left before EoD and more could still come to light in general, but it's still probably the biggest question in my mind right now.

I should also mention that I know what it's like to be whacked for an honest slip of the keyboard - as I recall, something that I posted in Marvel Heroes was taken out of context and used to justify a train on me. It felt terrible at the time, so I can't take a situation like that lightly.

A lot of "It could be good, but it could also be bad".

 

[Sorian]

Alexem isn't quite a blank for me this game but nothing they've said has made me feel anything one way or another. He probably doesn't believe that Ty is going to flip scum though. I'd be shocked if any of them truly believe in their heart of hearts that he will flip scum (maybe Geno does I guess) because the attitude looks more to me like they need to check the slip instead of just trusting whether it was a real slip or not.

I feel like I didn't explain that well, I feel like those voters might be doing the "mechanically correct" thing of having to check the slip which is basically the way MU would play it.

I 100% believe Ty flips scum

I know buddy, I know.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Ngl this feels like a nothing read. Sorian believing what he says is true of both alignments and that's weird to me you're giving it an alignment.

yeah it’s a town read halfway into day 1 it’s not going to be based on rock solid fact. Also no he would not lol. One of the things I’m looking for in town is do they believe what they’re saying. Scum do not unless they’re bussing. Town do even if they’re wrong.

 

[Ty4on]

yeah it’s a town read halfway into day 1 it’s not going to be based on rock solid fact. Also no he would not lol. One of the things I’m looking for in town is do they believe what they’re saying. Scum do not unless they’re bussing. Town do even if they’re wrong.

This is why I townread everybody as scum. Don't need to lie.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Like me issue with you right now Neeks is I don’t get the impression you actually care about what’s happening. There’s a very detached feel that I’m just not vibing with

 

[Sorian]

yeah it’s a town read halfway into day 1 it’s not going to be based on rock solid fact. Also no he would not lol. One of the things I’m looking for in town is do they believe what they’re saying. Scum do not unless they’re bussing. Town do even if they’re wrong.

I don't want to blow up my own spot but I am definitely the type that starts to believe their own lies so I'd actually agree with Saw's read on me more. I do start to believe the dumb shit I say when I'm scum.

 

[Chuggernaut]

I don't want to blow up my own spot but I am definitely the type that starts to believe their own lies so I'd actually agree with Saw's read on me more. I do start to believe the dumb shit I say when I'm scum.

Don’t you talk me out of this town read damnit I’m enjoying not being paranoid about you

 

[The Wizard]

Is there a draft tool in the settings somewhere? I keep losing things when I try to quote more than one page and I thought it used to save it but I recall one of the hydra costume games it being a nuisance. I figure if I turned it off I did it on the costume account though.

 

[Geno]

I think I do remember town Sneeks posting a bit more than what we currently have from her but it is D1 so I'm not gonna judge yet.

 

[Sawneeks]

yeah it’s a town read halfway into day 1 it’s not going to be based on rock solid fact. Also no he would not lol. One of the things I’m looking for in town is do they believe what they’re saying. Scum do not unless they’re bussing. Town do even if they’re wrong.

I don't want to blow up my own spot but I am definitely the type that starts to believe their own lies so I'd actually agree with Saw's read on me more. I do start to believe the dumb shit I say when I'm scum.

Sorian and I were Town Hookers together, I know how he plays lol. The best way to play scum is to believe your own bullshit so sorian 'believing' his own posts is NAI. Like what I said about his bafflement earlier.

Like me issue with you right now Neeks is I don’t get the impression you actually care about what’s happening. There’s a very detached feel that I’m just not vibing with

I mean. You're right. Nothing has stood out to me a ton and I'm finding it hard to get super invested in any of this.

 

[Sorian]

Don’t you talk me out of this town read damnit I’m enjoying not being paranoid about you

No pockets allowed scum boy

 

[Chuggernaut]

I mean. You're right. Nothing has stood out to me a ton and I'm finding it hard to get super invested in any of this.

you should give it another look and see if you can come up with any reads. simply lock in.

 

[Ty4on]

I think I do remember town Sneeks posting a bit more than what we currently have from her but it is D1 so I'm not gonna judge yet.

Do you know how to read Sneeks apart from volume?

 

[Ty4on]

Is there a draft tool in the settings somewhere? I keep losing things when I try to quote more than one page and I thought it used to save it but I recall one of the hydra costume games it being a nuisance. I figure if I turned it off I did it on the costume account though.

For some reason mine keeps the post I already posted saved D:

 

[HPSauce]

I mean. You're right. Nothing has stood out to me a ton and I'm finding it hard to get super invested in any of this.

If you had a gun who would you shoot?

 

[Geno]

Do you know how to read Sneeks apart from volume?

No to be honest, haven't played much with her and most of the time I was scum

 

[Chuggernaut]

No pockets allowed scum boy

thank you for not trying to pocket me i really appreciate that

 

[Sorian]

No to be honest, haven't played much with her and most of the time I was scum

Are you scum in this game?

 

[Chuggernaut]

Do you know how to read Sneeks apart from volume?

Granted it's been a while, but my meta on Neeks is she gets townie paranoia pretty bad as town. Like she's willing to work with you but there's this real clear fear there of being stabbed in the back and I'm just not really seeing that at the moment. I still don't think I want that today but it's sticking out to me.

 

[The Wizard]

I don’t hate the idea of a day 1 info flip, but again, I think Ty just flips town and that feels like a waste of time.

Yeah for me info means the town version of flip gets you somewhere. With a town!Ty, that would tell us that scum didn't see it as a true slip and knew the outcome if it looked likely to be the vote. So it's like marginal info.

It’s not like a “oh Sorian has to be town” but I get the impression he believes what he’s saying just based on our back and forth. I think he’s stubborn. But that’s nothing new and that doesn’t make him scum

I have less Sorian experience but it seems like he does the headstrong grandstanding bit as both alignments

 

[HPSauce]

Sorian being abrasive/headstrong/stubborn isn't a tell IMO, I've experienced it enough times to know that just how he is lol.

 

[Neon]

Neon has all of 13 posts in this thread (and probably some of those were before day start) and I count 6 that are actually about reads or defending himself. It's more than just being loud or not. The no posters or 1-2 post people right now are quiet but I wouldn't put them as an "easy target" day 1 because they have no content to latch on to. Those become easier targets as the game goes on because then you can say "it's day 4 and we still have no tangible content from X, let's kill them" but on day 1, that doesn't work. What does work is that sweet spot of someone who posts a little bit but not too much, which is where I place Neon now.

TBF that's me most of the time. I try to be active, but I mostly just sit on the middle, as you put it.

Ha ha classic Geno - null

Saw does her [player]!scum/[player!town] analysis on D1 as both alignments, so I will have to wait some more time to get a better read on her - null

Honestly I can see Febe's reasoning against me, my read on him moves from slightly town to town

This post reads very similar to this previous post.

It was a flip flop, she said I was fine in the previous post then still framed the whole next post as a thesis of me being bad without committing to it. She's done this to me in most games we play together though which is why I ignored it. Fwiw, Saw is one of those people that can do day 1 pretty much the same as town or scum which is why I'm just kind of shrugging here for now. I feel like I can read her better a couple days in.

This particular post from Turm feels like an attempt at parroting what was already said before. It gets a side-eye from me and a slight scum read.

how was Chuggs trying to fan the flames on Ty? Why are the two you see as unpartnered in the scum case not top of mind as people who could be scum jumping on a "slip" from a town!Ty?

As I said before, that part was made mostly on sleep deprived vibes. I apologize for the shoddy logic shown there.

So far on other reads. Sorian and Chuggs are trying to push the game and get reactions out of people, but that's NAI, I do not think that they are partners of any kind given the amount of spotlight they've given each other. Sorian in particular went after chugs for many things, but also for Chugg's post about me. A defense or an attempt to pocket me?

Fireblend is being somewhat aggressive but I don't have experience in order to bring up anything more than that. Ty still gets the side-eye from me even though him being part of a neutral group could also be possible.

Saw has been posting catch up posts as well. Nothing besides reactions so far which would read as busywork, but that would sound hypocrital given that I'm doing the same. Then she comments on the sorian/chuggs situation with a slight negative read against Chuggs in what I'm now dubbing the ChugrianBowl.

The Sizard. Susses me, for admittedly understandable blunders. I'd ike to have a conversation if you don't mind. You suspect me because you think that I'm using the talk of alternate groups in order to maybe push for Ty. Am I getting that right?

 

[Muffin]

I would shoot Zipped, nin, or Muffin.

I'm only third choice? Now that disappoints me

I forgot Muffin was in this game tbh

How could you Chuggs. (Nah I'm here, it's just a new challenge to play mafia on low energy)

 

[Geno]

Are you scum in this game?

Sadly no, but lowkey I wanted to be scum after a while of playing mafia.

 

[Franconp]

@Hedin could you post a link to the vote tool in the first post?

 

[Sawneeks]

I think I do remember town Sneeks posting a bit more than what we currently have from her but it is D1 so I'm not gonna judge yet.

just a heads up i am back to work today after being off for 2 weeks. dunno if i will have that many posts for a bit

you should give it another look and see if you can come up with any reads. simply lock in.

thats the plan, my man

If you had a gun who would you shoot?

Ty just to get it out of the way i guess? but it's not a fun kill it's more of a 'i want to look under that rock' kinda thing. just do that and get it done.

but like if i had a stronger feeling on someone else i'd go there instead. maybe Cap? but the role playing might be throwing me off there.

can i save the gun for later?

 

[Muffin]

Like she's willing to work with you but there's this real clear fear there of being stabbed in the back

Yeah I wonder why

 

[Sawneeks]

Yeah I wonder why

WEIRD, HUH?

WONDER WHERE I LEARNED THAT.

HUH

 

[Chuggernaut]

WEIRD, HUH?

WONDER WHERE I LEARNED THAT.

HUH

Yeah valid, but I still don't get why I'm not seeing that here

 

[The Wizard]

WEIRD, HUH?

WONDER WHERE I LEARNED THAT.

HUH

 

[Franconp]

With 24 into the game I think this is where I am:

Town
[They] melonrabbit|melon - UTC-8
[He/They] Fireblend|Febe - UTC-6
[Any] Sorian - UTC-6

Town lean
[He/They] Chuggernaut|Chuggs - UTC+6
[He/Him] Alexem - UTC+0
[He/Him] HPSauce - UTC+0
[He/Him] Ty4on|Ty - UTC+1

Null
[He/Him] Natiko - UTC-5
[He/Him] Muffin - UTC+1
[He/Him] Geno - UTC
[He/Him] TheWorthyEdge - UTC-7
[He/Him] Neon|NeonBorealis - UTC-6
[He/Him] malus - UTC+1
[He/Him] The Wizard - UTC-5
[He/Him] turmoil7|turm - UTC-3
[He/Him] nin1000|nin - UTC+1


Scum lean
[He/Him] CaptainNuevo|Captain - UTC+9
[She/Her] Sawneeks|Sneeks - UTC-8
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6

MIA
[He/Him] Blargonaut - UTC+8

Of course this are really early reads so they are really weak but I just wanted to put them out there. Also Fanto isn't here and someone needs to do a list. I would be happy to discuss any name if someone wants to (I'm just bored).

 

[Alexem]

I'm not sure I follow, what stands out about Neon for you here?

It goes back to the post about hypotheticals:

Let's run with the hypotheticals for now.
if Ty can truly share xp then there must be a group mechanic. It could definitely be scum who can pool their XP. Alternatively it could be a neutral cult/neighbors/lovers situation.

If Ty is a scum/aggressive-neutral and slipped: Then their scum partners would most likely try and move the spotlight somewhere else and not try to get much attention on Ty. Since there is some talk of the topic (it's kinda the only topic right now), most of them would likely remain at the fringes of the conversation. In this possibility, I could see HP as not being a scum, and also I'd read TheWorthyEdge as slightly town for their insistence that it was a slip.

if Ty is town and slipped or was simply confused about the mechanics: Then it is more likely that scum would support the angle that Ty is indeed scum. In this situation, based purely upon gut feeling based on the interactions so far, I'd think that someone in the turm, Chuggs and Fran group would be a scum trying to fan the flames. But there has been too little interactions for me to get a good read on them.

I guess I'll leave this till tomorrow afternoon (since my morning is busy with work). Hopefully we'll have more to chew on by then.

I accept that these are early theories from a town perspective with, as Neon mentioned, not much to go on. What I'm trying to size up if this is town!Neon sizing up a possible scum!Ty's options, or scum!Neon trying to shade town!Ty. Both could be town, but I can't see them both being scum right now. A red check on Ty would make me look at Neon more positively.

 

[melonrabbit]

Damn shooting the only other Aerith fan I see how it is

There can only be one.

 

[melonrabbit]

Town
[They] melonrabbit|melon - UTC-8

Rude. >:(

Explain.

 

[Muffin]

Yeah valid, but I still don't get why I'm not seeing that here

It's D1, I think it usually manifests later in the game in my experience.

For some reason I get slight scum vibes off of Geno, but I dunno why.

 

[Franconp]

Rude. >:(

Explain.

I already talked about that read when I was talking with Turm today:

I tried to ISOing melon because I saw she was the second person with most posts after Chuggs, what I saw was a lot of fluff and some good follow up questions, seems slightly town to me, I guess what I would like is for people to look at other players that are at the sides and try to get a read of them

I agree. I had a similar feeling from Melon when reading their post this morning and got some town vibes.

Reading the posts that happened while I was sleeping I got the feeling that your posts had townie vibes. I liked them.

 

[Chuggernaut]

It's D1, I think it usually manifests later in the game in my experience.

For some reason I get slight scum vibes off of Geno, but I dunno why.

Geno is just kind of naturally scummy I fear lol. I have the same vibes. I don't know if that actually makes him scum or not.

 

[The Wizard]

The Sizard. Susses me, for admittedly understandable blunders. I'd ike to have a conversation if you don't mind. You suspect me because you think that I'm using the talk of alternate groups in order to maybe push for Ty. Am I getting that right?

For me it is more that I town lean on Ty and your post sets you up to turn a town flip from Ty into more scum reads in a way that scum will sometimes set up. When I looked at it felt more like filler scum will generate to mention a few names and keep their head above water for doing more than nothing but it didn't really hold up to scrutiny. This can be because you were sleepy or it can be inauthentic and you wanted to look good more than solve.

Also this neutral speculation is a red flag for me, as scum are often eager to solve neutrals (the only part of the game they can solve alongside town)

if Ty can truly share xp then there must be a group mechanic. It could definitely be scum who can pool their XP. Alternatively it could be a neutral cult/neighbors/lovers situation.

From what I saw from their response , I'm slightly neutral-group/scum reading them. I don't completely buy that they confused exchanging points with sharing points. But that's as far as my read goes for now. I do agree with Sorian saying that it is a problem that could be solved later on though.

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It goes back to the post about hypotheticals:


I accept that these are early theories from a town perspective with, as Neon mentioned, not much to go on. What I'm trying to size up if this is town!Neon sizing up a possible scum!Ty's options, or scum!Neon trying to shade town!Ty. Both could be town, but I can't see them both being scum right now. A red check on Ty would make me look at Neon more positively.

I don't love this answer, it seems really wishy-washy and I don't come away with a clear sense of what you actually think of the players mentioned.

 

[The Wizard]

Of course this are really early reads so they are really weak but I just wanted to put them out there. Also Fanto isn't here and someone needs to do a list. I would be happy to discuss any name if someone wants to (I'm just bored).

Expand on Alex (I'm leaning scummy) and Zipped (I have as null)

 

[Chuggernaut]

Okay yeah I really like what Wiz is putting down

 

[Ty4on]

I should also make a list, ISO-ed most of the playerlist earlier.

Town
Chuggernaut - Strong player, but have liked the motivation and way of treating this game
TheWorthyEdge - Very good vibes, feels comfy in the thread
turmoil7 - Good vibes and doesn't seem to have bad motives

Town lean
The Wizard - Good prodding
Neon - Also decent prodding
nin1000 - Not following any consensus, pure mind
HPSauce - Seems genuinely interested in making sense of things
Franconp - Decent solving, more superficial read.
CaptainNuevo - Not much solving, but what I saw looked innocent

Upper null
Muffin - Had pretty good vibes, very little solving IIRC
malus - Also decent vibes

Null
Zippedpinhead - Ok vibes
Natiko - Haven't read him enough

Nothing
Blargonaut - Come join us

Neutral
Geno - Very brash posts that are in character and from my PoV could've been made by any alignment
melonrabbit - Ok posts, but nothing screaming town so far

Varying degrees of sus
Sawneeks - The Sorian read at #291 made me raise my eyebrow. It doesn't really say much and seems more like a justification for voting Sorian after I flip town. The line about Sorian positioning for me flipping town feels TMI-y (look at my MU vocab coming back D: ) and seems like a strange read to make when Sorian is in a way more treating me like someone who has flipped red by looking at who were late to reacting.
Fireblend - On the surface a lot of solving, but some of the sus feels like it's not coming from a pure place
Sorian - Got the feeling early on he was trying to fan the flames. Didn't like they way he described stuff like calling Chuggs behavior Phoenix Wright villain. Gives the feeling he wants to paint an impression into our mind so we don't trust Chuggs.
Alexem - Doesn't really seem to have an opinion of me. It's fine to be unsure, but the way he describes me feels like he's trying to make up a read instead of actually having one.

 

[Ty4on]

I guess I should just get this out of the way before going to bed.

Vote: Alexem

 

[HPSauce]

As much as I appreciate the town (or town lean) reads IDK if I've really done enough to deserve them yet lol

 

[Ty4on]

I worked my way backwards through the ISO btw so I haven't properly ISOed Chuggs, Sorian, Fran and HPSauce

 

[Blargonaut]

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[Ty4on]

As much as I appreciate the town (or town lean) reads IDK if I've really done enough to deserve them yet lol

We're 500 posts into D1 lol
You've done more than most so far

 

[Blargonaut]

debut fumbled

damnit this is what happens when I try to avoid imgur

 

[Ty4on]

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That's ok, but I can't open the attachments :'(

 

[Blargonaut]

Does @Blargonaut know the game has started? lmao

"..."

 

[Ty4on]

We need to make out own image hosting site

 

[turmoil7]

Alex is ambivalent as both alignments in my experience, I wouldn't read much there, to me is null

I like the back and forth between Neon and Wiz seems genuine to me

This post reads very similar to this previous post.

There I was trying to build a bit of consensus about sneeks behavior up to that point being NAI. Admittedly I may had seem a bit sheepish but is was my honest opinion. Also greeting Geno.

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I'm with a lot blindspots when scum reading people, I prefer to find townies to trust.

If I had a gun I would shot Chuggs, nin and zipped so far

 

[Blargonaut]

hmm how do imgs work here lemme try that again

 

[HPSauce]

Hi Blarg

 

[CaptainNuevo]

...

(Where am I? Am I awake? Why does my head hurt?)
(How long have I been asleep?)

[NORMAL TALK]

Since it looks like night time talk is going to happen at... inconvenient times for me to catch up, I wanna let one thing be known now, roughly 23 hours in advance:
I'm unlikely to be able to move my vote around at day's end with full information. I'll keep my vote where I think it's best tonight, and catch up when I can in the morning, but it's gonna be rough due to the deluge of info.

[/NORMAL TALK]

...Whatever.
(Some people positing that scum sharing exp could make sense to balance things for them. I disagree with this notion. Assuming scum has a similar role PM to the information I have, I have to assume scum has 3 abilities each, with successively increasing xp costs. Pooling experience for them feels like it would be imbalanced. Maybe this is important? Maybe it's not. At THIS PHASE probably not.)

...I can't really be bothered.
(Some players yesterday were asking me questions about my "Squall-isms", in a way that felt somewhat role fishing. THAT SAID, neither of them arise as logical questions from the publicly available information we have (the sample PM). That PM has only xp abilities, and someone asked me if I had to type "...whatever" once per page for my role. Based on the publicly available information, and the information I have about my role, I don't see reason to believe that roles exist outside of the powers we have. Feels like a fishing question, and it's something that raised an eyebrow for me.)

Hardly feels worth it.
(Furthermore, the sample PM also does nothing to indicate anything about role names here. I was asked if my role was specifically Squall. That's a jump to make based on the lack of information about role names present publicly. Also rubs me a bit the wrong way.)

 

[Franconp]

Expand on Alex (I'm leaning scummy) and Zipped (I have as null)

I like this posts from Alexem:

Outside of the Ty situation, I'm feeling OK with Chuggs and HP - they've been asking the right kind of questions to me and I think that thread needed to be pulled. Also positive on Fran so far - I know calling for early mechanical discussion isn't popular with everyone, but I think trying to work out what the rules can infer for the wider game can be a constructive use of time on D1.

Heh, can't blame you! To elaborate, though, I meant that in terms of chasing up Ty on the experience sharing point - they could easily have insinuated that something was off and left it there for others to run with, but they both made the point clear and pressed for details. Regardless of whether or not it was an honest mistake on Ty's part, they wanted to know more rather than let it slide, which struck me as sensible move in the situation.

I'm not sure that I vibe with the Chuggs or Turms votes - so far they both feel to me like they're trying to advance things, if from varying angles.

I like that he shared some reads. Not a fan of his vote as I don't think that he will flip scum but I can see some reasoning for it. I have pushed for, what I considered, info flips D1 before when I didn't have a scum lean so I can see why he did it.

Zipped is just fluff. Even the post where he analizes the game is just nothing:

Only 48 hours? Ok I’ve been reading the Ty sharing controversy and discussion. Complicated games tend to have more going on and while it can solve a game, it rarely does and never on the first day.

today is good, ol’ fashioned talk and shit post until we decide someone said something they did not intend, we discuss and then we vote them. That’s honestly my favorite day 1. The Ty thing is nice discourse at least.

To me it seems like coasting.

 

[Blargonaut]

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[Blargonaut]

nailed i- goddamnit attachment

ok I'm gonna need to find an img hoster thingy

 

[Blargonaut]

Ty is scum

 

[Franconp]

I was asked if my role was specifically Squall.

Who did it?

 

[Geno]

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You rusty af bruh

 

[Blargonaut]

Hi Blarg

Yes

 

[Blargonaut]

You rusty af bruh

don't tell anybody this is how I live

 

[Hedin]

@Hedin could you post a link to the vote tool in the first post?

Done

 

[Geno]

(Some people positing that scum sharing exp could make sense to balance things for them. I disagree with this notion. Assuming scum has a similar role PM to the information I have, I have to assume scum has 3 abilities each, with successively increasing xp costs. Pooling experience for them feels like it would be imbalanced. Maybe this is important? Maybe it's not. At THIS PHASE probably not

I see no reason to assume things based on your PM when we haven't flipped anyone to see what might be balanced and what not

 

[Blargonaut]

how to vote

 

[Blargonaut]

no wait I remember

 

[The Wizard]

don't tell anybody this is how I live

 

[CaptainNuevo]

Who did it?

Page 3.
Melon asked if I was ‘Squalling for fun or for business.’
…Doesn’t matter. I’m not interested in explaining myself.
People can think whatever they want.
I’ll keep going. That’s all.

 

[Franconp]

Done

Thanks!!!

 

[Ty4on]

Ty is scum

No I'm not

 

[Blargonaut]

this feels wrong

I used imgur ever since the first [Mafia] I did

me without imgur feels like I'm starting the game at lvl 1 after I was a maxed-out hero unit during the tutorial

 

[Blargonaut]

No I'm not

Am I scum?

 

[Ty4on]

Am I scum?

Hmm, it says scum right there, but I'm going to say no since you were late. Scum is never late.

 

[Blargonaut]

should I leave a 1-line gap between the quoted post I'm replying to and my reply, are you all ok with that

 

[CaptainNuevo]

should I leave a 1-line gap between the quoted post I'm replying to and my reply, are you all ok with that

No. Just in-line it in the quote like a normal person.

 

[turmoil7]

this feels wrong

I used imgur ever since the first [Mafia] I did

me without imgur feels like I'm starting the game at lvl 1 after I was a maxed-out hero unit during the tutorial

You can use https://imgbb.com/

 

[Blargonaut]

ahh having to manually refresh the page to see replies again, I feel my muscle memory returning to me

 

[Blargonaut]

You can use https://imgbb.com/

https://imgbb.com/

ooo TY

 

[Blargonaut]

ahh can't believe I'm here experiencing a Day again

incredible

feel the Day on your skin no one else can feel it for you

 

[Muffin]

no wait I remember

Prove it

 

[Blargonaut]

VOTE: Blargonaut

 

[HPSauce]

Before I go to bed, I feel like this could possibly be scum Zipped. He hasn't really posted anything of substance and he's just sat at the bottom of the post count which I seem to recall being exactly how he played as scum in Nightless.

Not a smoking gun by any means but I would like to see something of substance from him, if we don't get it I'd be prepared to go there I think.

 

[Blargonaut]

vote count please

 

[Blargonaut]

(jking)

 

[Blargonaut]

how to unvote

 

[Blargonaut]

we're all Power Roles right? just checking

 

[Geno]

Before I go to bed, I feel like this could possibly be scum Zipped. He hasn't really posted anything of substance and he's just sat at the bottom of the post count which I seem to recall being exactly how he played as scum in Nightless.

Not a smoking gun by any means but I would like to see something of substance from him, if we don't get it I'd be prepared to go there I think.

That's just Zipped, will probably end the day with exactly 10 posts

 

[HPSauce]

Page 3.
Melon asked if I was ‘Squalling for fun or for business.’
…Doesn’t matter. I’m not interested in explaining myself.
People can think whatever they want.
I’ll keep going. That’s all.

I'm sorry dude but this is coming off way too defensive over a fairly obvious joke post to me.

 

[Neon]

That's open to everyone actually if you had a gun with one bullet who would you smoke

For lack of better targets, I guess I would shoot Alexem, Chuggs Sorian or Sneeks. Mostly to see how it paints other people stances over them.

For me it is more that I town lean on Ty and your post sets you up to turn a town flip from Ty into more scum reads in a way that scum will sometimes set up. When I looked at it felt more like filler scum will generate to mention a few names and keep their head above water for doing more than nothing but it didn't really hold up to scrutiny. This can be because you were sleepy or it can be inauthentic and you wanted to look good more than solve.

Also this neutral speculation is a red flag for me, as scum are often eager to solve neutrals (the only part of the game they can solve alongside town)


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I don't love this answer, it seems really wishy-washy and I don't come away with a clear sense of what you actually think of the players mentioned.

My logic at the time for saying that Ty could be neutral or lovers is that the conversation at the moment was about that Ty's slip could be indication that he is Scum and I wanted to provide another possibility. Now that I'm more wary of Ty as I'm not sure that I buy it being a mistake completely.

As for the neutral thing. I think that day 1 should be used to explore possibilities rather than immediately going for a vote.

On another note. I can't remember, but has Blarg always been like that?

 

[Natiko]

I have not read since I last posted, but I’ll do that later. Here are what I could find of early reactions and statements about the Ty post about exchanging exp:

Hedin said that you can't:

Fran points it out early. I generally feel okay about Fran currently, and he hasn’t been so gung ho about it that it feels like scum pushing an agenda.

Maybe scum can but Ty didn't realize town can't

Turm does come in with immediate shade only to instead chase after Chuggs a little bit after this. Reads to me as suspect.

Wait you can I missed that?

I feel like the vote mechanic is a trap to encourage bandwagoning and dodgy vote jumping but I like that it pushes the game to be less passive.

This one did stand out a bit looking back for being so milquetoast. Like they wanted to be on the record of having interacted with the slip but is afraid to take a stance. Reads scummy to me kinda regardless of Ty’s alignment?

Gonna call it a night here anyways it's past 1AM lmao.

Given its the only real thing that has pinged me as off so far I'd be interested to hear thoughts on Ty4on's post #142. I appreciate he said he was going to bed but the fact that he post a bit after that and then dipped after the error he made feels a little off to me IDK.

So a genuine innocent mistake or a slip because scum do have the ability to share XP or maybe even a secret 3rd thing, would love to hear thoughts from y'all.

Eh, meanwhile despite taking a pretty similar non-stance (and filling more air/looking busier at that), but honestly it reads a bit better to me even though I probably sound kinda negative. Probably null here.

We can't. Hedin said later on page 1 we can't and HP is wondering if Ty slipped and scum actually can share XP

I don't think it's a slip, but I do actually want to hear what Ty has to say about it when he gets back

I’ve already said my piece on thinking the exchange reads weird in hindsight (more so the posts later on where Chuggs refers to it again).

Multi quoting is still a pain in the ass on mobile so sorry if I don’t quote someone.

In less serious news, I like how the implication is we get exp for being a part of someone’s murder.

In more game specific things, I read that share xp comment earlier and just assumed that I missed reading a rule somewhere but now I see that I’m not the only one confused. That is a weird comment and one I might jump on when I actually sit down later and read again.

Turm’s comment on me also feels like busy work, me acting like myself and then calling it a neutral tell is just low hanging fruit. I appreciate that we are early enough that surface level reads will lead to discussion but that and my opposite light town read on Chuggs pinged me on that post.

I’ve maybe cooled a bit on Sorian with some of the more recent exchanges, but I don’t find his initial reactions or frustration around everyone else’s to be particularly scummy. Still maybe a light town lean but a paranoid one since they could be trying to pocket me.

Need to hear Ty’s reasoning for saying what he did. I agree that it was a slip rather than not knowing the mechanics. I for one didn’t read the rules at all and thus had no reason to think XP was shareable. Clearly he did. So there, hm hm!

Seems fine? Null overall but I’m unbothered by their reaction.

I'll be honest, I'm not even sure where the notion of sharing XP being a possibility would come from at all.

Like, I know that Hedin specifically said we couldn't, but why were enough people asking about that prior to the game starting? Maybe I'm just selfish, but why would anyone's thought be that we should share xp to an unknown actor?

It’s pretty earnest and could be read as fake, but tbh I dunno if scum cap makes this post. I really can’t give a valid reason for it other than gut based on vague, amorphous memories but kinda town lean here.

On the flip side, you almost certainly would as scum too. Doesn’t mean this isn’t a genuine read though.


Posting that much sounds exhausting, I’m old. My fingers aren’t as spry as they used to be.


I’m not really swayed on it being a slip of any real merit, but it’s at least something getting reactions out which I do think might be helpful.

For posterity so no one whines at me for excluding it.

Heading to bed. My only real thought so far is I'm glad of the exp share slip because it at least got us into the game proper. I could see there being a role that hands out extra XP or something, but I don't think Ty having that role would lead to that particular kind of misspeaking and it wouldn't surprise me if ty was town and just happened to misremember what they'd read. Otoh I could kinda see a scum member slipping like that if that team could pool their XP together and it'd sure be nice if our job was suddenly much easier but also there's enough people chasing that thread already and Ty should say their piece before hyperfixating.

Already commented on this.

Let's run with the hypotheticals for now.
if Ty can truly share xp then there must be a group mechanic. It could definitely be scum who can pool their XP. Alternatively it could be a neutral cult/neighbors/lovers situation.

If Ty is a scum/aggressive-neutral and slipped: Then their scum partners would most likely try and move the spotlight somewhere else and not try to get much attention on Ty. Since there is some talk of the topic (it's kinda the only topic right now), most of them would likely remain at the fringes of the conversation. In this possibility, I could see HP as not being a scum, and also I'd read TheWorthyEdge as slightly town for their insistence that it was a slip.

if Ty is town and slipped or was simply confused about the mechanics: Then it is more likely that scum would support the angle that Ty is indeed scum. In this situation, based purely upon gut feeling based on the interactions so far, I'd think that someone in the turm, Chuggs and Fran group would be a scum trying to fan the flames. But there has been too little interactions for me to get a good read on them.

I guess I'll leave this till tomorrow afternoon (since my morning is busy with work). Hopefully we'll have more to chew on by then.

I don’t think I come away feeling nearly as negative on this post as others, but I also wonder if my thoughts are influenced by the talk around it since then. Null?

a spade is a

like this exp hack either exist or doesn't.

Ppl are definitely being coy but I also don't think the slip itself says much about Ty's alignment. I'd be more interested to flip elsewhere down the chain.

And yeah, I still think melon’s entrance feels townie from a vibes perspective. No issue with their reaction.

After this it felt like enough time had passed that possible scum reactions were more likely to have been coordinated/coached. I come away feeling worse on turm and Wizard.

 

[Blargonaut]

sicc imgbb works TY turm I'm never voting against you during this game you have my word

 

[Neon]

It is a flashy entrance. I'll give you that.

Blarg. Any opinions so far about the game?

 

[Fireblend]

Oh hey Blarg

 

[Blargonaut]

[...]

On another note. I can't remember, but has Blarg always been like that?