Planning a War (Or how to take it over at least)

I'll respond to launcher 1 more time a bit later, as answer to why didn't he change it after EC mention the tracker skill. Pretty much launcher didn't respond at all after EC mentioned that so i can't really question that. As an easy answer is he didn't see it, or did and didn't care. Especially given EC only have the news 4min before close.
 
Let's hope we can stir it without too many eyes. So far i seem to be safe, seems newbie shield is still activated. Annoyed terra hasn't responded to me, but they did give a tiny opening to ephi.
 
From what I gather everyone's doing great, with different loud voices trusting one or two of us and votes distributed among 9 players.

If anyone gets cased, I'd say the key is not to overplay defense. For whatever reason it always backfires on me, even when being genuine town. So I just answer if I'm being directly asked stuff, and focus my energy on something else otherwise. In a game this big there's still plenty to muse about.
 
I'd say that's almost confirmed with that last big post, the only thing against it being Zipped starting the day with a "we didn't know which of us should post this meme" thing.

By the way Launch defending me is breaking my heart, I was sure he was gonna turn on me and all would be good. But no, you need to guilt-trip me. <3
 
They are both saying they know for a fact

Maybe one is a gossip, so one is partnered with ael, the other got Ael is his gossip chat?

Though gossip is a day command so that wouldn't line up with the lightning rod
 
Don't, Fate was just criticizing Z-Beat for throwing shade your way. This game is too unmanageable right now and everyone is understandably all over the place.

Looking at the wagons this is the day that everyone will use for vote analysis if any of us flips. So we need to either heavily stack or be mostly away from the main wagons.

Also, Faddy, do you have another chat? Missing you here.
 
We may need to start preparing fake roleclaims.

but i do wonder why did you and reki do those votes?
You mean last phase?

Thought I could get away with it. The likes of Terra, Random and malus seem to agree, but it obviously backfired with another subset of loud players.
 
I dont think the vote has anything to do with it, In fact that is one of the things that got me town reads.

I was active in the thread to ignore a tracker claim would have looked bad.
 
Then the question is, why are they reading scum now. I think honesty is the best course. Why not vote with VA is what people seem to be on about
 
Is it that you didn't believe that VA was scum, an then instead chose to avoid casting votes for either of the people you thought of as town? That coupd be a way out....dunno
 
We might be able to buy you another day atp, with va playing poorly. Tho i am heartened that others are starting to see scum launcher...and will continue that next day
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
We might be able to buy you another day atp, with va playing poorly. Tho i am heartened that others are starting to see scum launcher...and will continue that next day
Im going to continue on being buddy buddy with Launch. I support your efforts in spirit though.
 
Don't be hard on yourselves folks. Even if one of us dies, folks got tangled with trusting us. Like, Nat and wee would look awful for their comments on ATP, for example.

Writing a reads list atm, so far it seems I'll land on Ty or Leo - as I sadly cannot go VA, but I'll try to promote discussion about the case -. Any of you want to accompany me?

(Just don't do it immediately, wait at least 40 min or so first)
 
I cannot go against Ty, but i think i can with leo. But that will probably extend me, eventhough i did mention him for a bit. Will need to see what you give. Could sus him for next day tho

My choices are
Launcher
VA

Launcher gets a pass due to the slow burn
 
Then VA is better as of now if you're already set for that vote. Same to HP, you already voted there before and said you wouldn't be opposed today, so that's a better pick imo.
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Then VA is better as of now if you're already set for that vote. Same to HP, you already voted there before and said you wouldn't be opposed today, so that's a better pick imo.
Yeah that's where I'm going I think
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I will throw myself in front of ATP.

I am going to post and get heat on myself. HP definitely push me.

We can't have our Masters die
 
Wait I'm a click away from a vote for Ty4on. Do I go Leo instead?

Leo is someone I don't recall many stances from (no disrespect intended!) and that's why they're here, as I had a more combative impression of him from MGS. So I had to go look up and what I didn't particularly like was admitting to VA's case today being "leftovers" yet being fine with it being the vote today due to wagon composition (#1580, guessing he means mostly Hedin and Fate), but I liked his thoughts on Faddy (#1379). Torn here. There's a third point I'd like to see develop this last few hours so I'll be watching that.

Dunno if I've played much with Ty but I agreed with the remark shared by two or three folks - Faddy included, ugh - that his content looks busyworky. The vote on Stan is pretty light and easy, there're design comments that lead nowhere (like #1065), the toothless remark about meanies being on the upper part of the count, #1065 maybe being TMI-ish, the remarks about the low posters or the mafiascum clarification. So yeah, maybe not the exact same conclusions that Zipped made about him, but the busywork point stands.

Things giving me pause here are his townreads aligning with mine (#1070, #1146) and Launch, whom I townread, commenting on this being normal Ty4on behavior. However, not changing the EC vote after the claim despite seemingly being here is enough for me. Was that ever answered, btw? Can't find it.

Vote: Ty4on
 
leo is getting heat. As long as you can support it, i think it's fine.

Can go ty if you want too, even you mention that zip is being a bit to leading with their thought process
 

A Wild Shark Appears

Our resident acupuncturist
I’ve been mulling over an idea that might be pretty dumb, but maybe when we know one of us is a goner they should claim cop? That way we could bait out the cop and hit them with the roleblocking bullet.
 
Hey guys how does this sound as defence post, I can't tell if it sounds shit or not lol

Okay, that took longer than expected. But for those expecting some grandiose defense im going to have to disappoint.

Firstly, I've not got much more to add to the z beat thing than is already out there, he made a "joke" vote about me voting fate when I was voting for Ael at the time.

I asked what he meant since I was genuinely confused, he quoted a post I made about fate. So that showed me he wasn't following the game, his vote on me just looked like an innocuous place to park a vote and basically not participate day 1.

So yeah of the low posters im going to pay more attention to the one who got my attention for clearly not following the game. I feel like with almost every other low poster, there is at least something there, z-beat there is nothing.

Random's push on me I don't really understand either, he said I'm bussing OJ, if me and OJ were scum im pretty sure I'd know he was struggling to keep up and was gonna replace out, a bus makes zero sense there. I voted OJ because his day end was terrible, and his play reminded me off his scum game on hvv3. I'm not gonna go over the jester thing again because I feel I've repeated myself several times on that already.

Another thing Random said, is my flip would be useful because I've interacted with a lot of people.

But according to Leo I've avoided engaging with players that are engaged in the game. He also shaded me for voting for inactive players without engaging them. I pinged OJ when I made my vote, i pinged z beat d1 about not understanding his vote. But that's irrelevant because I think we all can make judgements on people's play without directly engaging with them by how they interact with other people. Funnily enough though, Leo has voted for me twice now, throwing lots of shade about me having weak d1 and d2, but hasn't engaged me, hasn't pinged me to ask me anything. He's literally voting for me for all things he is doing and honestly it stinks.

Maybe z beat is town and we are both falling into omgus over a misunderstanding, I can kind of understand randoms train of thought on voting me, Leo's vote is honestly terrible. No substance behind it at all.
 
Also Pandora since you die if I die, if you are around at day end and its like 1 vote or tied or something between me and someone else you might as well vote to save me, since it would buy us another night, and our team mates another day, just something to be aware of at eod.
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
'I'm 'just a magus' I only have a Motivate, my role obviously isn't that important but i strongly believe my partner is town and I think it'd be a big mistake to vote us out'. Some shit like that
 
Vanilla is not usually a good fake as they'll vote you out anyways, you want something stronger. You could claim Messenger or Fruit Vendor, but these have the same problem.

If you think you have the face to claim Cop or Doc I'd go for it. Otherwise, a limited shots Strengthener could be a good pick, but unlikely to get you saved and may get you funny side-eyes as the normal interpretation would be that last night a strong kill occurred.

Dunno, which power would you all link to an eye? Claims related to flavor sometimes sway those who understand it.
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Could say something about the flavour text saying you go to another dimension or something on a night phase?
 
Also Pandora since you die if I die, if you are around at day end and its like 1 vote or tied or something between me and someone else you might as well vote to save me, since it would buy us another night, and our team mates another day, just something to be aware of at eod.
I know, I'm watching. Freakin fred pulled out of leo. It looks like i will vote va. Just watching
 
Im going to kill TY. Couldn't have made that vote earlier? Then again, it's probably good to get the person after my mastere neck
 
Do what you must Pandora, you won't have to answer any questions tomorrow if any of us makes the implication that you could be paired.

Ty could be a Cop, that "I didn't believe the Tracker, nor the Self-Watcher." is weird otherwise.
 
Do what you must Pandora, you won't have to answer any questions tomorrow if any of us makes the implication that you could be paired.

Ty could be a Cop, that "I didn't believe the Tracker, nor the Self-Watcher." is weird otherwise.
I don't mind answering as it's pretty simple, i just chose to break a tie at the moment. Turns out i didn't need to. Paired as one of you townies will claim me?
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Good day.

Not sure about that vote on me at the end HP. Whatever we can work around it.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I am really enjoyiing playing with absolutely no engagement here. Usually I worry too much as scum but now I am literally doing nothing.

It is going to catch up with me on like day 4 but many people are going to look bad for town reading me.
 
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