Spectating the greatest event of the year!

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
The scum team:

for Einzberns:

-HP is Tokiomi Tohsaka The Godfather
-Faddy is Sir Francis Drake his servant who is a thief that RB’s and copied certain roles and gets flavor clues about their role
-Reki is Kiritsugu Emiya the one shot switch who can roleblock one player as long as Reki is alive.
-Ambulance is Billy the Kid the strongman and he is Reki’s servant

for Mages’:

-ATP is Kirei Kotomine the one shot janitor
-Pandora is Xuanzang Sanzang the one shot motivator and one shot deflector. She is ATP’s servant
 

Verelios

Were-elios
@Verelios gimme them sweet deets on the scum team roster
They were known as...

The Sinister Six
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"Fast Hands" Faddy
"Bus boy" Ambulance
"Guilty" ATP
"Town Conscience" Reki
"The Immortal" HP
"The Great Pretender" Pandora
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
The scum team:

for Einzberns:

-HP is Tokiomi Tohsaka The Godfather
-Faddy is Sir Francis Drake his servant who is a thief that RB’s and copied certain roles and gets flavor clues about their role
-Reki is Kiritsugu Emiya the one shot switch who can roleblock one player as long as Reki is alive.
-Ambulance is Billy the Kid the strongman and he is Reki’s servant

for Mages’:

-ATP is Kirei Kotomine the one shot janitor
-Pandora is Xuanzang Sanzang the one shot motivator and one shot deflector. She is ATP’s servant
OH MY GOD WHY DON'T I TRUST MYSELF MORE
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
The scum team:

for Einzberns:

-HP is Tokiomi Tohsaka The Godfather
-Faddy is Sir Francis Drake his servant who is a thief that RB’s and copied certain roles and gets flavor clues about their role
-Reki is Kiritsugu Emiya the one shot switch who can roleblock one player as long as Reki is alive.
-Ambulance is Billy the Kid the strongman and he is Reki’s servant

for Mages’:

-ATP is Kirei Kotomine the one shot janitor
-Pandora is Xuanzang Sanzang the one shot motivator and one shot deflector. She is ATP’s servant
So no mixed pairs this time? (aside from neutrals)
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
The other reason for less mixed pairs lol was so there’d be more deaths via master deaths to help move the game along, the other reason is because of Hedin lol
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Seeeeee Hedin was a neutral survivor yes, but he was also a mason maker of his servant had died.

@vere can you post the pm for the mason maker power

basically this power would have caused less servant deaths
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Basically Hedin would have turned three one sided lovers into masons if he has lived long enough and successfully targeted servants

this was a way of making it so servants could live without masters since all our pairs were pure except the neutrals lol
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
Basically Hedin would have turned three one sided lovers into masons if he has lived long enough and successfully targeted servants

this was a way of making it so servants could live without masters since all our pairs were pure except the neutrals lol

Which with how many people have been claiming the 2nd part would have been easy. Seeing how scum attacked me two night in a row I utterly failed the surviving part.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Seeeeee Hedin was a neutral survivor yes, but he was also a mason maker of his servant had died.

@vere can you post the pm for the mason maker power

basically this power would have caused less servant deaths
Hedin's 2nd Stage Role PM:
As you watched Beowulf’s spirit origin disappear, some fading memories came back. Not this version of you, but another version in another holy grail war remembers little things. You remember freeing yourself from a terrible master that will never be your master. You remember wanting to disappear rather than be with such a man that reminds you of him… You remember, a kind man with a cold face who showed you kindness in your weakest moment…

Things have gotten harder now that you don’t have a servant, but that doesn’t mean you can’t still complete your plans. And you can change things for the other servants in this holy grail war too.

You are now a Mason Maker!

During the night you can use the command Rule Breaker: player. If the player is a master, they will be roleblocked for the night. However, if you hit a servant, you sever their connection to their master meaning they are no longer be one sided lovers. They will continue to have a night chat, but if their master dies, the servant won’t die with them. They will be notified something has changed for them, but not told what it was.

You win and leave the game when you sever the connection of 3 servants!

If you are alive at the end of the game and have not done this, you will still win as a survivor however.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Which with how many people have been claiming the 2nd part would have been easy. Seeing how scum attacked me two night in a row I utterly failed the surviving part.
It’s not your fault lol you just focused on scum xD

you should have pulled a Shirou or something considering he’s made it this far lol
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Also with the pure pairings I want to point out scum could have lost in 2 days

town vote out master 1
Vig kill master 2
Town get master 3

the chances of that happening are small as shit, but there’s a world where it happened.

So no complaints about the scum team being OP :ghostcop:

we didn’t know they would all be alive by this point

:alpha:
 
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I was the town Gladiator, and the night I got killed I used my ability on Faddy. Here is what I would've posted had I lived and the power gone off:

Howdy pardners, git ready fer the rootinest, tootinest dang ol' duel you ever seent.

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Today, at high noon (and by high noon I mean immediately) y'all need ta choose ta vote between m'self, and Faddy.

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Y'see here, I reckon Faddy is one o' them scum we need ta kill if we wanna win th'game.

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I'm th'town Gladiator, and I wanna tell Faddy:

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Y'ave yee'd yer last haw, pardner.

Vote: Faddy


Okay so I've done some vote analysis after VA's flip, which that along with my Gladiator role was the extra reasons for wanting to kill VA that I was hinting at. I'm sorry VA, that I pushed for you and you ended up getting voted out as town. I still think your role was negative utility and I'm glad you weren't a master and didn't take anyone else out with you. I really thought there was a chance that VA was scum, but I knew their flip would be helpful regardless. In my opinion, now that we know VA was town, I think scum are most likely to have voted for VA on D1 OR D2, as well as on D4, to cause maximum chaos. Here's what I found interesting about the votes in terms of analyzing swerves:

Ephi voted VA D1 and D2
Zem voted VA D1, D2 and D4
SkyOdin voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
HP voted VA D1, Faddy D2
Shirou voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
Hobo voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
Ty4on voted EC D1, VA D2, VA D4
Faddy voted EC D1, VA D2, VA D4

From this list, Sky, Shirou, Hobo, Ty4on and Faddy fit my criteria. I think Faddy is the scummiest out of these, and Sky and Hobo are the least scummy, with Shirou and Ty falling in the middle.

Faddy has continued to wiggle his way through this game despite seemingly not even paying attention at times. He has a bad voting record, and he hasn't done much of worth in this game. It's a very easy place for scum to hide. I think Faddy is scum.

I did go and read D1 of EZA like I said I would, and the Faddy that was present there had many similarities to the Faddy in this game. It's possible that Chugg soul read is accurate for this game as well, but I am not making this argument purely off meta, it is only one component.

Overall, I think Faddy is the best use of my ability right now, and I think we need to hit scum today because we are certainly on the backfoot.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. I can't please everyone. I know I am town, and I believe the voting results of me using this ability today should be useful regardless of if I end up getting myself voted out. I will still be digging in today and trying to solve others regardless of what happens.

If you think my role is indicative of me being scum, then lol. I feel like this game has been balanced in a way that each town team has certain types of roles. EC was an investigative role (tracker) and was Einzberns. Z-Beat was a protective role (jailer) and was Einzberns. Leo was a second investigative role (cop) and was Mages Association. I would strongly bet that if SkyOdin is truthful about being a second protective role (doctor), they are Mages Association. I think Stan's role is close enough to mine to be considered an equivalent, and I am Einzberns, so I am betting Stan is Mages Association. I've got all my cards on the table at this point so I am willing to claim my flavour, but I am a bit hesitant in case there is a scum ability that relies on knowing extra info. Thanks for reading.


 
This post would've been even funnier knowing that scum included Billy the Kid, who I was trying to confuse with by hinting that he was my Servant identity (it was not, I was Nero Claudius (Swimsuit)).
 

Verelios

Were-elios
I was the town Gladiator, and the night I got killed I used my ability on Faddy. Here is what I would've posted had I lived and the power gone off:

Howdy pardners, git ready fer the rootinest, tootinest dang ol' duel you ever seent.

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Today, at high noon (and by high noon I mean immediately) y'all need ta choose ta vote between m'self, and Faddy.

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Y'see here, I reckon Faddy is one o' them scum we need ta kill if we wanna win th'game.

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I'm th'town Gladiator, and I wanna tell Faddy:

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Y'ave yee'd yer last haw, pardner.

Vote: Faddy


Okay so I've done some vote analysis after VA's flip, which that along with my Gladiator role was the extra reasons for wanting to kill VA that I was hinting at. I'm sorry VA, that I pushed for you and you ended up getting voted out as town. I still think your role was negative utility and I'm glad you weren't a master and didn't take anyone else out with you. I really thought there was a chance that VA was scum, but I knew their flip would be helpful regardless. In my opinion, now that we know VA was town, I think scum are most likely to have voted for VA on D1 OR D2, as well as on D4, to cause maximum chaos. Here's what I found interesting about the votes in terms of analyzing swerves:

Ephi voted VA D1 and D2
Zem voted VA D1, D2 and D4
SkyOdin voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
HP voted VA D1, Faddy D2
Shirou voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
Hobo voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
Ty4on voted EC D1, VA D2, VA D4
Faddy voted EC D1, VA D2, VA D4

From this list, Sky, Shirou, Hobo, Ty4on and Faddy fit my criteria. I think Faddy is the scummiest out of these, and Sky and Hobo are the least scummy, with Shirou and Ty falling in the middle.

Faddy has continued to wiggle his way through this game despite seemingly not even paying attention at times. He has a bad voting record, and he hasn't done much of worth in this game. It's a very easy place for scum to hide. I think Faddy is scum.

I did go and read D1 of EZA like I said I would, and the Faddy that was present there had many similarities to the Faddy in this game. It's possible that Chugg soul read is accurate for this game as well, but I am not making this argument purely off meta, it is only one component.

Overall, I think Faddy is the best use of my ability right now, and I think we need to hit scum today because we are certainly on the backfoot.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. I can't please everyone. I know I am town, and I believe the voting results of me using this ability today should be useful regardless of if I end up getting myself voted out. I will still be digging in today and trying to solve others regardless of what happens.

If you think my role is indicative of me being scum, then lol. I feel like this game has been balanced in a way that each town team has certain types of roles. EC was an investigative role (tracker) and was Einzberns. Z-Beat was a protective role (jailer) and was Einzberns. Leo was a second investigative role (cop) and was Mages Association. I would strongly bet that if SkyOdin is truthful about being a second protective role (doctor), they are Mages Association. I think Stan's role is close enough to mine to be considered an equivalent, and I am Einzberns, so I am betting Stan is Mages Association. I've got all my cards on the table at this point so I am willing to claim my flavour, but I am a bit hesitant in case there is a scum ability that relies on knowing extra info. Thanks for reading.


This is a good post. A real good post.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
It’s not your fault lol you just focused on scum xD

you should have pulled a Shirou or something considering he’s made it this far lol

I was afraid that if I went too wishy washy that Launch was going to eventually call me out on it and then was thrown for a loop when he started defending me.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I was the town Gladiator, and the night I got killed I used my ability on Faddy. Here is what I would've posted had I lived and the power gone off:

Howdy pardners, git ready fer the rootinest, tootinest dang ol' duel you ever seent.

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Today, at high noon (and by high noon I mean immediately) y'all need ta choose ta vote between m'self, and Faddy.

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Y'see here, I reckon Faddy is one o' them scum we need ta kill if we wanna win th'game.

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I'm th'town Gladiator, and I wanna tell Faddy:

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Y'ave yee'd yer last haw, pardner.

Vote: Faddy


Okay so I've done some vote analysis after VA's flip, which that along with my Gladiator role was the extra reasons for wanting to kill VA that I was hinting at. I'm sorry VA, that I pushed for you and you ended up getting voted out as town. I still think your role was negative utility and I'm glad you weren't a master and didn't take anyone else out with you. I really thought there was a chance that VA was scum, but I knew their flip would be helpful regardless. In my opinion, now that we know VA was town, I think scum are most likely to have voted for VA on D1 OR D2, as well as on D4, to cause maximum chaos. Here's what I found interesting about the votes in terms of analyzing swerves:

Ephi voted VA D1 and D2
Zem voted VA D1, D2 and D4
SkyOdin voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
HP voted VA D1, Faddy D2
Shirou voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
Hobo voted VA D1, Z-Beat D2, VA D4
Ty4on voted EC D1, VA D2, VA D4
Faddy voted EC D1, VA D2, VA D4

From this list, Sky, Shirou, Hobo, Ty4on and Faddy fit my criteria. I think Faddy is the scummiest out of these, and Sky and Hobo are the least scummy, with Shirou and Ty falling in the middle.

Faddy has continued to wiggle his way through this game despite seemingly not even paying attention at times. He has a bad voting record, and he hasn't done much of worth in this game. It's a very easy place for scum to hide. I think Faddy is scum.

I did go and read D1 of EZA like I said I would, and the Faddy that was present there had many similarities to the Faddy in this game. It's possible that Chugg soul read is accurate for this game as well, but I am not making this argument purely off meta, it is only one component.

Overall, I think Faddy is the best use of my ability right now, and I think we need to hit scum today because we are certainly on the backfoot.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. I can't please everyone. I know I am town, and I believe the voting results of me using this ability today should be useful regardless of if I end up getting myself voted out. I will still be digging in today and trying to solve others regardless of what happens.

If you think my role is indicative of me being scum, then lol. I feel like this game has been balanced in a way that each town team has certain types of roles. EC was an investigative role (tracker) and was Einzberns. Z-Beat was a protective role (jailer) and was Einzberns. Leo was a second investigative role (cop) and was Mages Association. I would strongly bet that if SkyOdin is truthful about being a second protective role (doctor), they are Mages Association. I think Stan's role is close enough to mine to be considered an equivalent, and I am Einzberns, so I am betting Stan is Mages Association. I've got all my cards on the table at this point so I am willing to claim my flavour, but I am a bit hesitant in case there is a scum ability that relies on knowing extra info. Thanks for reading.


If only we had a What If machine to see how better things would have gone if you made it just one day longer.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Scum keeps getting hard spared with PRs. Leo tried to check ATP twice I think
Yeah they killed Leo the night he checked him lol

the Faddy stole from terra the night terra targeted him with the track but the Lr would have fucked that up anyways
 
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Verelios

Were-elios
I saw this post from Faddy

and then came here to call him Scum, but upon getting here I see I was late to the party on that one lol.




Hey now, this game isn't until... next season? Maybe? Hopefully?

(Yes, I made a Danganronpa 2 Mafia game)
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lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I saw this post from Faddy

and then came here to call him Scum, but upon getting here I see I was late to the party on that one lol.




Hey now, this game isn't until... next season? Maybe? Hopefully?

(Yes, I made a Danganronpa 2 Mafia game)
And I reviewed it :D
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
The scum team:

for Einzberns:

-HP is Tokiomi Tohsaka The Godfather
-Faddy is Sir Francis Drake his servant who is a thief that RB’s and copied certain roles and gets flavor clues about their role
-Reki is Kiritsugu Emiya the one shot switch who can roleblock one player as long as Reki is alive.
-Ambulance is Billy the Kid the strongman and he is Reki’s servant

for Mages’:

-ATP is Kirei Kotomine the one shot janitor
-Pandora is Xuanzang Sanzang the one shot motivator and one shot deflector. She is ATP’s servant

Explains my immediate push to death. @Natiko this is what I meant by giving them an out. ATP was waaaaaay too jumpy on my vote, and now they're safe behind walls of speculation.

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This must be what Al Gore feels like...
 
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lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
:surprised:
We made the scum team the way we did so some masters and especially servants would be safe to claim who they are.

EX: since Zouken was town wouldn't be weird for Tokiomi right???

EX: since Iri just flip Kiritsugu is probably safe right?

Anyways we gave all the masters fake claims just in case it wasn't safe and lol they are planning their fake claims.

This is fine

but Pandora who is the safest out of the servant claims as Xuanzang is planning a fake servant claim lol
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
HP pulled one on me. I had them on my possible scum list with Faddy, but I really thought it was one or the other after HP's bussing. If Faddy flipped scum before HP, I don't know if I'd have circled back to HP in time. I suck at recognizing bussing is the moral of the story here.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
STILL NOBODY HAS TOLD ME HOW TO MAKE A MESSENGER ROLE USEFUL EXCEPT IN THAT IT CAN BE EASILY CONFIRMED AND IT’S BEEN LIKE 4 GAMES I’VE ASKED FROM DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS!

It's not beyond having the role easily confirmed. You *might* luck into figuring out some switch screwery (Chugg & I did in MK) but I think that's it.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
STILL NOBODY HAS TOLD ME HOW TO MAKE A MESSENGER ROLE USEFUL EXCEPT IN THAT IT CAN BE EASILY CONFIRMED AND IT’S BEEN LIKE 4 GAMES I’VE ASKED FROM DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS!
That's about it tbh lol. From a game design perspective, I find Messengers to be more fun to include than a Fruit Vendor, which serves the same purpose ultimately as a confirmable interaction that occurred between two players and also something for a Tracker/Watcher to see that isn't the Mafia kill or a Doc/Cop. With a Messenger at least you give the player some more agency in terms of what they are sending, which can be fun for them lol.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
an unbalanced game

you guys locked me out of my lover chat so i cant go get the code for that post i typed up
>:( The game was perfectly balanced! If you don't feel that way complain to Monkey and Flush

As for why you got locked out of your thread D: that's mean. I'll pester @TheChuggernaut about it.
im sorry i couldnt help you win wee
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She still has a chance .-. Town has win somehow but she has a chance :D
But the ….oh there’s an odd nighter too?

well whatever. They can read the flip.
lol nope. He's a x shot.
Good lord why have I rolled messenger like 3 times
One of those doesn't doesn't count if everyone in that game is a messenger >:(
it was fun roleplaying the loyal and honest karna :P
You were so loyal we offered to let you leave the game and you stayed

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You were the best Karna Shirou!

@weemadarthur Just letting you know he stayed loyal ;)
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
That's about it tbh lol. From a game design perspective, I find Messengers to be more fun to include than a Fruit Vendor, which serves the same purpose ultimately as a confirmable interaction that occurred between two players and also something for a Tracker/Watcher to see that isn't the Mafia kill or a Doc/Cop. With a Messenger at least you give the player some more agency in terms of what they are sending, which can be fun for them lol.
That's how I feel as well lol :D

Stan's creativity as a messenger in Nier Mafia is part of what really made me want to make everyone a messenger in mystery mafia... to see the creativity that flowed.
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Mind you part of the plan was to have a poor unlimited tracker getting a butt load of messenger visits to hide the other results, but town were meanies >:(
 

Verelios

Were-elios
It's not beyond having the role easily confirmed. You *might* luck into figuring out some switch screwery (Chugg & I did in MK) but I think that's it.
I swear, we almost had town believing you were up to fuckery. If only we didn't claim our actual role names, lol.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
All right everyoneeeeee now is the time.... channel all your positive energy into town and hope they get scum!!!
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Do i have permission on posting, post #154 in the main thread
and using a fake command to kill everyone
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I could have not bothered writing any messages. But @Aeleus i strongly appreciate that you understood it was about rottk. Since I did not say the name of the book and only a minor character, lol.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Who replaced you with Hawthorn?

I have to root for this team, they’re too plucky. We got my mentoree who doesn’t really need me, Pandora, coming off of a couple of rough games, HP, hasn’t rolled scum before without something just fucking him over, ATP, Wahbulance who doesn’t have much confidence in his mafia game, and Faddy and Reki who subbed in when we really needed them. Look at that team and tell me you don’t want to root for them.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
You don't need to nuke the field if you and your master were just like "later bitches" and left

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Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
I have to root for this team, they’re too plucky. We got my mentoree who doesn’t really need me, Pandora, coming off of a couple of rough games, HP, hasn’t rolled scum before without something just fucking him over, ATP, Wahbulance who doesn’t have much confidence in his mafia game, and Faddy and Reki who subbed in when we really needed them. Look at that team and tell me you don’t want to root for them.

Maybe if they didn't want me dead so much I could get passed that but no, evil must go down.

On another note, Launch's gif game has been on point.
 
I saw this post from Faddy

and then came here to call him Scum, but upon getting here I see I was late to the party on that one lol.




Hey now, this game isn't until... next season? Maybe? Hopefully?

(Yes, I made a Danganronpa 2 Mafia game)
Coming back to this, did you make a second DGRonpa game (because I already thought we had two) or did you make a DG2 themed game? Because i can only imagine the possibilities of characters by I could be.

also, it will come out eventually but @FateShirou, Ael and I had it out for you night 1, but i got cold feet, congratulations on the win!
 
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