In the Old Ruins

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
You all once died in a fog (aka shit that happened in the first Nier mafia game)… you became one with the fog… The Shadowlord may have won and left the fog… but his world is dead now and now you are back albeit some are in a different form than they were before. Here’s hoping you can win this fight, because if you can, you have been promised by the fog that the world you lost will be restored… you just must first kill the world that currently exists to do it.

You may post your Role PMs in here.

Additionally For this night and this night only you will have access to a special thread where you can meet with your enemies but also possible allies! This is your chance to talk in private, form possible alliances, or gather info that may lead to you crushing your enemies.

Please be careful in what you post in there as you may not be able to trust the one on the other side.

Also to conceal your identities you all will share a costume account!

Your account name: Taro

Password:

The thread: https://www.outermafia.com/threads/741/
 
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A foulmouthed bitch, you died in the fog. However, you have somehow been reborn… as a Machine. Well this is just peachy... However, you’ve been promised a better body when this is all over if you can accomplish your goal. For now you'll just have to keep pretending to be: Animal Loving Machine, the poor sucker your personality files are now overriding.

You are Kaine Machine and you are a 2 shot Tracker!
You are: A Machine.

You are aligned with those out to bring back a world they lost(that is mafia).

You win when your faction makes up 50% of the remaining players.

During the night you can use the command Hunt: player. You will learn who your player targeted, but not what they did.

Your faction has:
  • 1 Ninja Shot - On ODD nights you can use the command Ninja: player. The kill will not be able to be detected.
  • The Mafia factional kill - On ODD nights you can use the command Kill: player. The player will die.

You can not use the factional ninja shot the same night the factional kill is used.
You have the power to vote!

Scum Team: CheshireCat
Scum Thread: TBD
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Main Thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...p-on-a-platter-via-vote.501591/#post-75370791

Good Luck killing anyone who fucking gets in your way!

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Fake Claim: Animal Loving Machine - Machine - Fake power claim: Vanilla. You may be a machine, but you madly love animals and you just want to make sure they are safe. You will do anything to keep an animal safe even if you have no real ability to do it.
 

The Fallen
She/Her
Yesterday at 12:37 AM
A loving father who lost his daughter and his life in a terrible fog, you have been given a new lease on life. Luckily you have Grimoire Weiss with you still. He will prove very useful, something of which he delights in smugly.

You are Nier and Grimoire Weiss and you are a 2 shot Jailler!
You are: One Replicant and One Book.

You are aligned with those out to bring back a world they lost(that is mafia).

You win when your faction makes up 50% of the remaining players.

During the night you can use the command Shadow Shield: player. The player will be protected from night kills, but they will be roleblocked.

Your faction has:
  • 1 Ninja Shot - On ODD nights you can use the command Ninja: player. The kill will not be able to be detected.
  • The Mafia factional kill - On ODD nights you can use the command Kill: player. The player will die.
You can not use the factional ninja shot the same night the factional kill is used.
You have the power to vote!

Scum Team: Maolfunction
Scum Thread: TBD
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Main Thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...p-on-a-platter-via-vote.501591/#post-75370791

Good luck getting back what you lost!

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Fake claims:
  • King of the Forest - Machine - You are a king, but you are also a baby so you don’t really do much. But sometimes that just works out perfectly for you.
  • Master Swordsmith Masamune - Machine - A Master Sword Maker, you spend your days toiling away at smithery hoping to make the perfect weapon. You have developed some skills as a result.
  • Commander White - Android - The leader of Yorha, you have a very commanding presence. You will do what you must to protect all of Humanity Even if it costs you every Yorha agent. You are also a master of executing discipline.
  • Operator 21O - Android - An operator, you are focused on your job and reject any attempt at communication that is not work related. You are focused on delivering messages to agents, and are willing to even report those not following orders.
 
I've been playing for a long time, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask away. Our priority on D1 should be to not do anything that would draw unwanted attention to us. I tend to be active and vocal as town, so I'll continue to do that so people don't notice anything weird with my behavior and you can approach the game as a newer player. Asking questions in thread and engaging with people should help people warm up to you and not want to vote you off anytime soon.
 
This is also undoubtedly a multi mafia faction game given our team's numbers are so low. So there will be other players who are scum we need to find and kill off. They're going to be our priority before we focus on town.
 
do you have any real reads? I think we should scum hunt separately but I dont wanna accidentally end up in the same place as you on the thread by accident
 
I'm leaning towards Fate being not town at this point. He was one of my guesses for the other costume account, and I don't think this is how town Fate plays D1 with light suspicion thrown at him.

I'm also wary of Chuggs, he's being more cautious than normal which I don't expect from town Chuggs.

Right now I'm mostly just letting the game flow dictate what I'm posting, which is also how I play town, if Fate continues to bury himself, I'll probably wind up there at EoD.
 
eh, this fate is the same as my first game and he was town then too. he is aggressive in his disdain for people who label him scum, but never worries about it.
zeke seems to be acting the same as well.
sneeks is quieter, she was scum last time i believe
 
He was more aggressive when he rolled town in The Thing which was the last game I played with him. He could be trying a different strategy this time, I just expected him to be more aggressive with his pushes lol.

Zeke is good at playing the same way as either alignment, so that's not a big tell for him, and Sneeks is probably just busy. She usually engages with the thread as she can regardless of alignment from what I've seen.
 
i did not have access to the night chat! I missed it i was sleeping IRL - what was that claim?
they claimed they were a neutral role and had to survive to endgame. No flavor name attached to the claim or anything. You should still be able to view the thread if you log into the costume account.
 
I kinda want to kill Rando because no one is scum reading that slot, and I also want to track Zeke because I don't want to potentially get fucked by whatever role he has.
 
who do you plan to hunt ? Is there anyone we feel we need to protect? Not me, at this point at least
I'm thinking Zeke, just because I want to know if he can target people or not. I can see him going after me if he has a targeting role.

And I'm not seeimg anyone we need to potentially protect yet. Game is still early, I'm not gonna try and drag players to a MELO situation just yet. But naturally, we can try and keep players who are always question marks like Sparks, EC and HP around.
 
but if someone decides to track me I am done for unless i have a plausible reason why sorian is worth killing at night. And I just voted on them so if someone tracked me that would be a hard sell
 
I'd be up for killing neeks - more of a dangerous player, but weak on day 1 and nI didn't interact much

and you voted for rando today! so that would look sus. no one else felt sus of them

Sneeks is TRing both of us currently so I wouldn't want to get rid of an early ally so quickly, since she can be a persuasive voice during the day.

And no one would suspect us if we kill someone who I tossed a prod vote on near the start of the day. If anything, I'd be less suspect because I killed someone who I was pushing.
 
ok, both points make sense to me lol. Though killing someone who has allied with us is it's own proof it wasn't us. Still, she could be helpful if she keeps going in other directions. but she is a voice ppl trust, so if we wait till she has us in her sights it may be to late
 
I actually think jailing c4 might be our best option. He's an extremely skilled player and keeping him blind would be very beneficial to us.
 
ok, both points make sense to me lol. Though killing someone who has allied with us is it's own proof it wasn't us. Still, she could be helpful if she keeps going in other directions. but she is a voice ppl trust, so if we wait till she has us in her sights it may be to late
that is true, but it's also possible someone else kills Sneeks tonight lol. if she's still alive on N3 I think we kill her then assuming someone more pressing isn't on the table
 
man how did he mess that up! anyway, works for us. I need to get back to real life for the night. let me sleep on it and we will talk tomorrow. But i don't have any issue with what you want. night!
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
night actions have locked so we are going to go with the second action you submited Maol which is the NK.

If you don't want the NK to happen then please let us know an hour before day start.
 
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lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
@CheshireCat Congrats! You have been given an item!

You received: 1 Key - It’s old but works in your door for some reason. Did you once own this key?

During the night you can use the command Lock the door. You will be roleblocked for the night, but will be protected from all killing actions.
 
but since we got a scum by accident do we want one of us to claim it with a town power? or just stay in the background. certainly no one will think i did it
 
but since we got a scum by accident do we want one of us to claim it with a town power? or just stay in the background. certainly no one will think i did it
Nah, as the game goes on it'll be hard to explain why whoever is still alive.

hey @Maolfunction my long read is gonna involve you. doing takes on everyone who voted for anex. I'll drop it here before i post but it's time i said something about you. gonna be minimal though
Sounds good.
 
man, my iso on your vote is rough. early vote then silence until character role reveal flub and then you had a great reason to stay there.

EC asking HP if he did a night action and trusting his answer might mean EC can track. but if there had been no night action why even bother to ask the question? But why even start the whole thing if you have no way to confirm. what other powers could they have that would let them watch during night?
 
day 1 reflections:

after the 2 kills it looks like we are agreeing to believe for now there are two mafia and Anex was town.


the whole 2 mafia groups needs it’s own post in terms of gameplay mechanics, but I’ve never played a game with 2 mafia before so i don’t even know where to start. I will worry about it after work


anex was town is something i know how to look at and investigate. But now from the perspective that whoever killed Anex could have thought he was town, or thought he was other mafia.

how important was it that anex’s character is a main character? is scum more likely to think a main character is town? I'm thinking its a null change since this bastard game play is so hard to guess at, I don't think it would be anyones reason to vote. so both town and scum could have voted for Anex. So who voted for annex and was it b/c they had a strong suspicion or just because they could?


I’m thinking I’m more likely to trust those who really felt he was mafia. The problem with that is apex’s weird mess up claim made him look really suspicious.


First up in order from vote tool:


Maol: voted suuuuuper early #560 #564 did a sort of place holder vote? based on not feeling anex had done anything useful so far, then iso post where he agrees with his vote for anex pushing the fate train alone and for shit stirring and not having an early vote. Anex pushed back saying he was looking into fate and hp from Star trek beefs i think.


Maol asks if anyone else thinks they should target Fate and HP- Hawthorn says fate #3 annex #6. Maol town read haw at that point along with Date and Zeke post #600



Maol left vote on anex while sparks did sparks stuff, and then by post #1188 said …



Then Anex started saying he MIGHT claim if people wanted him to and Maol found that sis post #1197



Then there was the whole role reveal snafu with the name for anex and the chaos that ensued


Post 1201 Anex says if it was him he would not change his vote based on his role reveal, which Maol agrees with post #1207 and says that he won’t then change his vote

post #1274 taking credit for starting the bus on annex “I said it like a full day ago when I first voted you for how you were coasting and called you out for going after the polarizing players from Star Trek . I don't think you were on anyone's radar before I popped up”


then Maol “concerned with the lack of movement here [on lp train]. if wolf, are his mates bussing him now. if town, are they comfortably sitting off wagon. it's entirely possible that the wolves have given up on saving anex, but I'd have expected more attempts to swing it elsewhere before the claim came out than what we got” post #1397


post #1408 “I don't town read anex, I just didn't like the LP counter wagon because I don't see a reason to SR LP”

Post #1411 defends annex vote when Haw tries to argue he has been pushing Sorian vote, haw later backs down post 1415 with “OK, that is a a good point.

I do remember that you like to have multiple wagons. I forget that people are like that because it makes me nervous, I like to have a firm lead on the person I most scum read.”


At the end of this reread...
Maol was not very serious at the start, but threw down a vote. and then tried to get interest in Fate and HP and Sorian. I was not feeling the fate or hp sus vibes, but a couple votes were put down on fate and later removed. He not interested in the haw train either. Was reading Haw as town, even when haw was sus of him on Sorian. Once Maol said he would not change his vote at #1207 he keeps his word...even as I try to start something on Sorian and some people decide not to vote.

So why the double down? This is either reckless mafia or reckless town behavior. Voting out people just because you said you would when there is a decent chance they are town and there is a neutral to vote out just seems petty. on one hand, I know the anex role reveal messed up a lot of people's reads, but there were so many of us who did not think he was scum. So many people voted him out last minute anyway just b/c he messed up the role reveal. I know hindsight is 20/20, but I wish you had voted Sorian with me - in spite of haw. Ultimately after going through all these posts on Maol, im not sure what side he is on, but not loving the choices made so far either way.

With that said - how do you feel about Fate [hedin] and HP now? Are you still reading haw as town?

I still don't get the Anex train over Sorian. But my vote is another post.


Anexanhume / Anex (10 votes)


Maolfunction / Maol - #560


Sawneeks / Sneeks - #631 #734


c4e5g3d5 / c4 - #1,001 #1,160


HPSauce / HP - #1,083


TheChuggernaut / Chugg - #1,098


Sawneeks / Sneeks - #1,111


Randomless / Ran - #1,157


c4e5g3d5 / c4 - #1,203


Hawthorn - #1,256


Sorian - #1,375


Stantastic / Stan - #1,403


Neki - #1,406
 
that looks good, but make a more definitibe read on me at the end. you put out a lot of stuff on me that doesn't look great from your POV, so you should be willing to make a hard read with that much info. will look townier
 
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So why the double down? This is either reckless mafia or reckless town behavior. Voting out people just because you said you would when there is a decent chance they are town and there is a neutral to vote out just seems petty. And before that, it just felt like no one had any solid scum reads at all, so you sticking with anex seems to sure too fast. everyone was listing town reads but few people had scum reads. You were willing to post a shit post vote on HP at the very beginning but not later when Anex tried to restart that train. Maybe you were ok killing either because you are mafia and know they aren’t on your team, or maybe you are mafia with HP and that early vote was a fake. You tried to start on HP but didn’t push very hard.
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At the end of this reread...


Maol was not very serious at the start, but threw down a vote. and then tried to get interest in Fate and HP and Sorian. I was not feeling the fate or hp sus vibes, but a couple votes were put down on fate and later removed. He not interested in the haw train either. Was reading Haw as town, even when haw was sus of him on Sorian. Maol kept his vote on Anex and other people hopped on. Anex then said he would role reveal. Then he said he would do it if 3 ppl asked him to. Then he just did it, but got the character name wrong. Once Maol said he would not change his vote at #1207 he keeps his word...even as I try to start something on Sorian and some people decide not to vote at all? And some people keep votes on other 3rd options like LP?





So why the double down? This is either reckless mafia or reckless town behavior. Voting out people just because you said you would when there is a decent chance they are town and their role power is testable and there is also neutral to vote out just seems petty. IF everyone is so ok waiting to test Sorian’s neutral power, why were they so unwilling to give anex time to prove their power?? And before that, it just felt like no one had any solid scum reads at all, so you sticking with anex seems too sure too fast. By EOD1 i thought everyone was scum at one point or another. everyone was listing town reads but few people had scum reads. You were willing to post a shit post vote on HP at the very beginning but not later when Anex tried to restart that train. Maybe you were ok killing either because you are mafia and know they aren’t on your team, or maybe you are mafia with HP and that early vote was a fake. You tried to start on HP but didn’t push very hard.





On one hand, I know the anex’s role reveal messed up a lot of people's reads, but there were so many of us who did not think he was scum. So many people voted him out last minute anyway just b/c he messed up the role reveal. I know hindsight is 20/20, but I wish you had voted Sorian with me - in spite of haw. Ultimately after going through all these posts on Maol, I’m not sure what side he is on, but not loving the choices made so far either way.





I’m not ready to vote you out over this, as when it was going down i did not fight hard enough to keep anex, and annex did not fight hard to stay in the game. Ultimately it was his own gameplay that killed him, but I am watching you….FoS"


last update lol
 
yeah i am also not surprised, and its a good time for me to catch some heat. not worried about defending my play. I am worried a bit about being tracked
 
She visited herself? Hm, might be a bus driver. If she's scum, that makes her nearly immune to night actions when she uses it.

I may claim this in thread and get town cred for it. Tho I'll have to steal one of your fake flavor names to do it if I do, because mine won't work for a tracker claim.
 
sorry, i really have been busy IRL. But i read this before i posted. Everything is going well. I plan to circle back to monkey when I get back on at 5, also will circle back to you for more - make sure that Zeke can't use the same claim fake out issue monkey had
 
Don't think there was anyone we should consider jailing. I don't think Monkey is telling the truth about giving protection out because why would she protect Sneeks over HP, the townie with a kill shot that every wolf is going to be trying to get rid of. Doesn't make sense.
 
It will be annoying if HP shoots me. He never actually explained his scum read on me so I never had a chance to shift his perception
 
Hedin I don't think will look at us tonight if he has anything and EC hasn't been hinting that he has an investigative role or anything like that so that should be fine. As long as we whittle away the players who are most likely to target us, we should be fine. We're also getting to the point of the game where a lot of players with roles that can target people should be running out of shots.
 
Don't think there was anyone we should consider jailing. I don't think Monkey is telling the truth about giving protection out because why would she protect Sneeks over HP, the townie with a kill shot that every wolf is going to be trying to get rid of. Doesn't make sense.
yeah that did not make sense to me, but I'm wondering if she could be another neutral. just feels like this game has too many directions to go in...
 
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