Scum Thread OH NO! IT IS THE DEN OF THE LOVELESS!
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You love to see it
Gondola
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My big flashing lights scum tell is raising its ugly head, just can't work out where to even start saying anything for fear of tripping over my own scummy feet.
But home from work now so I can do this, time to grab lunch and get over myself.
I'm a friendly person in a friendly neighbour chat. Time to go find some friends and hunt some meanies. Woo!
But home from work now so I can do this, time to grab lunch and get over myself.
I'm a friendly person in a friendly neighbour chat. Time to go find some friends and hunt some meanies. Woo!
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But is it scum Fran my towny friend?
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Yes, thus we must vote him out.
Houseboat
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:cor: :cor: :cor:
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Rubber Duck or Cruise are kinda where I'm angling to vote but I'm trying to build my way there organically.
Also I almost just slipped with that last response to Inflatable, I was about to write I don't think a neutral is likely with 13 players but I'd only know that if I know how many scum members there are
Also I almost just slipped with that last response to Inflatable, I was about to write I don't think a neutral is likely with 13 players but I'd only know that if I know how many scum members there are
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If there's a big swing back towards Yacht again I'd begrudgingly go there if Yacht is okay with the bus. I don't really want to bus this game because of my position thus far though. Yacht seems to be doing alright today as well so I hope a bus won't be necessary. I won't bus Gondola unless they get red checked or something.
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I think fight it and we can throw some fud around. I guess we'll be siding with Cruise though.
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I think I'm gonna say something like "well that's a weird scum strategy. I have genuinely seen something like this before, though the circumstances of that game were quite different" alluding to Gnosia
I could also bring up the possibility of multiple doctors since it's Unusual
I think I am going to say I protected Submarine and that I have to guess the account. I would've guessed loki but I don't think I should share that information with the main thread.
I could also bring up the possibility of multiple doctors since it's Unusual
I think I am going to say I protected Submarine and that I have to guess the account. I would've guessed loki but I don't think I should share that information with the main thread.
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Yeah this is good, you can also ask them to explain their power and act indignant if they have a stronger powerset to yours (less limitations)
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Ooh good one
I am going to claim 3-shot but I have to guess, no refunds, no consecutive, no self-protect
Gondola
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lmfao
Gondola
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Ideally if we lose you we're going to want to chain into them.
If you do it I obviously won't say this, but if you were actually teamed wouldn't that be the first thing about your claim you'd change?
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Yeah you're right that's a bit too on the nose. I'll claim 3.
Also feel free to bus I'm definitely dying today lmao
Having multiple guessing roles should be fine? I could claim odd night instead of having to guess if you prefer.
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I am a gamerunner after all :wariosmile:
But yeah that's fine. How do you feel about me saying I protected Gondola N1? I'll say I wanted to protect Submarine but my partner objected so Gondola was the compromise? If you don't want to link to you I'll just stick with Submarine.
But yeah that's fine. How do you feel about me saying I protected Gondola N1? I'll say I wanted to protect Submarine but my partner objected so Gondola was the compromise? If you don't want to link to you I'll just stick with Submarine.
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Don't worry about it, it's made for a fun start to the game. Sorry for putting the pressure on you yesterday I tend to play pretty loose as scum
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Couple points against Cruise that HB can safely raise:
- Cruise says 2 scum is worth 1 doc for town so they could also be thinking 1 scum is worth 1 doc for scum esp if the doc is gonna get eliminated first
- They could have role copped a cop last night and are now afraid the cop will get a shot off, so came up with this gambit to ensure the cop can't get protected.
- Cruise says 2 scum is worth 1 doc for town so they could also be thinking 1 scum is worth 1 doc for scum esp if the doc is gonna get eliminated first
- They could have role copped a cop last night and are now afraid the cop will get a shot off, so came up with this gambit to ensure the cop can't get protected.
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Gondola
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Betting is bad, people.
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This has to be Vere lmao, I'd be 100% certain if they said something about eating a table or a hat or a shoe if they were wrong.
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I was legit gearing up to push Duck today, the only thing they have done so far is push me. They also didn't answer my question about why they didn't mention their scum read on Day 1, probably because whatever they answer looks bad with Cruise counterclaiming. There's some meat on that bone to chew on.
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So do we now have to strong Cruise? I kinda doubt they can self protect but not sure what else we would be using the strong on. Double doc claims from scum would be a tough sell.
Tracker can just kill us straight up at this point so we prob have to take that risk. Watcher would also be doom.
Tracker is probably what we are looking for with role cop but using the role cop also risks getting tracked lol.
I'm still confused on duck. I almost see nin in them some of the time.
Tracker can just kill us straight up at this point so we prob have to take that risk. Watcher would also be doom.
Tracker is probably what we are looking for with role cop but using the role cop also risks getting tracked lol.
I'm still confused on duck. I almost see nin in them some of the time.
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Hmm looking back at those loveboat designs
loveboat 1 - town has a three shot tracker, scum had no protection but had a tracker of their own,
loveboat 2 - 3 shot tracker, scum had 2 shot ninja
loveboat 3 - motion detector, scum had a 1 shot ninja
We have no ninja, I want to say bear is kind and they have no way to detect us.
loveboat 1 - town has a three shot tracker, scum had no protection but had a tracker of their own,
loveboat 2 - 3 shot tracker, scum had 2 shot ninja
loveboat 3 - motion detector, scum had a 1 shot ninja
We have no ninja, I want to say bear is kind and they have no way to detect us.
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PRobably do want to strong kill cruise. We could leave them alive for memes, lifeboat will probably freak out if they're alive tomorrow but the previous designs had the docs as unlimited and cruise wants you dead I think so I think we need to. If we can kill cruise and they just decide to total lifeboat tomorrow that actually would take some heat off you lol
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10 people left, 2 are friendly neighbours, 9 will remain with a successful kill.
If 2 of us survive, game can be won from 5 people by pushing one person in final 5. This would require two more eliminations and three more kills (including tonight's) to get to Day 6.
If 1 of us goes down, game can be won from 3 people by pushing one person in final 3. This would require three more town eliminations + one scum elim + four more kills including tonight to get to Day 8.
Imagining we kill Cruise ship tonight, we get 2 or 3 more towny kills the entire game and need 3 or 4 more town elims as well.
Submarine - widely town read, has pushed town twice (galleon, cruise), could get paranoia over time but a safe kill.
Lifeboat - lot of heat. good elim, ideally tomorrow?
Beluga Whale - trending up in consensus, could be a good kill at some point.
Giant Rubber Duck - bit of a wildcard. can be linked back to HB. tougher elim but might be worth pushing
Inflatable Boat - will get a good amount of town cred from HB. good kill?
Cruise Ship - claimed doc, would need to leave alone for more than one night to get paranoia brewing. big risk. good kill.
Kayak - Will be liked more following HB flip but could still be pushed. Vanilla so can't be saved by claim. Good endgame or late elim?
Skiff - perception of coasting, could be an elim.
I guess Lifeboat + Kayak + Duck + Skiff are the most likely elims we can look to pick up. Maybe we rolecop within these to see if any have a parachute?
If 2 of us survive, game can be won from 5 people by pushing one person in final 5. This would require two more eliminations and three more kills (including tonight's) to get to Day 6.
If 1 of us goes down, game can be won from 3 people by pushing one person in final 3. This would require three more town eliminations + one scum elim + four more kills including tonight to get to Day 8.
Imagining we kill Cruise ship tonight, we get 2 or 3 more towny kills the entire game and need 3 or 4 more town elims as well.
Submarine - widely town read, has pushed town twice (galleon, cruise), could get paranoia over time but a safe kill.
Lifeboat - lot of heat. good elim, ideally tomorrow?
Beluga Whale - trending up in consensus, could be a good kill at some point.
Giant Rubber Duck - bit of a wildcard. can be linked back to HB. tougher elim but might be worth pushing
Inflatable Boat - will get a good amount of town cred from HB. good kill?
Cruise Ship - claimed doc, would need to leave alone for more than one night to get paranoia brewing. big risk. good kill.
Kayak - Will be liked more following HB flip but could still be pushed. Vanilla so can't be saved by claim. Good endgame or late elim?
Skiff - perception of coasting, could be an elim.
I guess Lifeboat + Kayak + Duck + Skiff are the most likely elims we can look to pick up. Maybe we rolecop within these to see if any have a parachute?
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Sorry total brainfart on numbering the days above, final 5 is day 5 and final 3 is day 6.
Bit of a mad idea but since you were eyeing up a cop claim you could consider a 1-shot parity cop? n1: Kayak n2: Lifeboat result: different. Day 3 focus on these 2 and pick the scummier. Day 4 role claim and hope it's credible. Day 5 - oops they were both town guess there was a switcher FML. Now people have to evaluate your claim in melo.
Bit of a mad idea but since you were eyeing up a cop claim you could consider a 1-shot parity cop? n1: Kayak n2: Lifeboat result: different. Day 3 focus on these 2 and pick the scummier. Day 4 role claim and hope it's credible. Day 5 - oops they were both town guess there was a switcher FML. Now people have to evaluate your claim in melo.
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Not sure on messenger but feels like Sub/Inflatable/Beluga. Inflatable had the wave comment but did mention being more sus of your "bandwagony" vote by eod. Sub predicted the Jet Ski kill and had you in their top 3/4. Didn't pick up on much from Beluga.
messenger is confirmable so really hoping it's from the pile we want to kill more so that miselim.
messenger is confirmable so really hoping it's from the pile we want to kill more so that miselim.
Would be great, although I do feel like messenger often pairs with something movement as it produces false positives (you send messages to people you trust, who sometimes end up murdered). If we do get a strong sense who is the messenger it could be worth it to follow their town reads for kills.
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Starting work so won't have a ton of reading time.
Ducks identity is still bothering me. They hopped on that shot / night restriction discrepancy fast so the more aggressive voice definitely has gamerunner experience. From where everyone else is place this should be Fanto or Natiko then? I thought the other voice who rationalized mafia having a roleblocker for houseboats survival could be malus but that's a weaker vibe read.
Ducks identity is still bothering me. They hopped on that shot / night restriction discrepancy fast so the more aggressive voice definitely has gamerunner experience. From where everyone else is place this should be Fanto or Natiko then? I thought the other voice who rationalized mafia having a roleblocker for houseboats survival could be malus but that's a weaker vibe read.
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Wouldn't guess anybody here. Might guess Zipped who can have those same moments of being out of sync with some of the rest of the room but have conviction around a pet theory / viewpoint?
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This could work. My thought is if the role cop for tonight is between lifeboat, duck and skiff, lifeboat would not be a bad place to be caught if we get spotted but there would need to be a plausible reason why we didn't turn in the green check to stop a theoretical miselim of them tomorrow if we go with a cop claim later.
Skiff basically ghosted yesterday so on the argument we didn't know who to guess for lifeboat, skiff wouldn't be a bad place to check to be as a check or as a claim for a cop, they haven't been weighing in on anything at all, plausibly could have a good role
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didnt really round this off - but being able to say we guessed the wrong name and didn't get a result would be fine. Zipped is plausible enough.
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My pref for role cop would probably be Lifeboat or Duck.
Today is very likely to be Lifeboat Vs Yacht so knowing if they have any suprise in store before putting all eggs in that basket would be helpful.
Duck is a pretty big threat IMO, could easily lead a convincing push on us. If we saw a good role could be worth taking them at night instead.
Don't think either is town-read enough that visiting them is suspicious.
Skiff hasn't built enough cred where any claim will be automatically believed.
Sub/Beluga/Inflatable feel like it would be more helpful in deciding do we kill them night 3 or night 4 and checks on them are sus.
Today is very likely to be Lifeboat Vs Yacht so knowing if they have any suprise in store before putting all eggs in that basket would be helpful.
Duck is a pretty big threat IMO, could easily lead a convincing push on us. If we saw a good role could be worth taking them at night instead.
Don't think either is town-read enough that visiting them is suspicious.
Skiff hasn't built enough cred where any claim will be automatically believed.
Sub/Beluga/Inflatable feel like it would be more helpful in deciding do we kill them night 3 or night 4 and checks on them are sus.
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I've been up and down for this one lol probably not the best place to try today. I thought Ty at one point for one of them for the comment on watching GDQ, but that might be off.
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We can definitely fire off a check on Lifeboat, I'm sure that's ATP and Faddy. Duck I thought Ty. The people that sussed you loudest yesterday at EoD were lifeboat Duck and Cruise. Presuming we get this kill off clean and they yeet lifeboat, duck could be a consideration for tomorrow before they get to discussing you?
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gdq was cruise I think. Cruise is Fran/Ty I think.
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ah fuck lmao some of these have melded together for me, good catch, my bad
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Inflatable Boat - Ael
Kayak - Zeke and either zook or zipp - z-core either way
sub - loki, Thorny?
Lifeboat - Faddy, ATP
Galleon - wee
Cruiseship - Fran/Ty
Skiff - Sneeks, Nin?
duck -
beluga - Vere, Va
Jet Ski - Chuggs, Sorian
If it's this, Nat and malus could be on Duck? and maybe Fanto with Ael
Kayak - Zeke and either zook or zipp - z-core either way
sub - loki, Thorny?
Lifeboat - Faddy, ATP
Galleon - wee
Cruiseship - Fran/Ty
Skiff - Sneeks, Nin?
duck -
beluga - Vere, Va
Jet Ski - Chuggs, Sorian
If it's this, Nat and malus could be on Duck? and maybe Fanto with Ael
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very vere
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Duck makes me nervous because they seem to be trying to conceal their identity (the one using lowercase and no punctuation is also the one with some savvy observations)
Not sure who between Nat and Fanto would be more worried about that.