Mr. Mew this is a pretty good idea. Typically scum wants to generate a good way to figure out town roles. And asking for it first is often a scum tell.
I can't untangle Pinocchio's claim like how I can't untangle you asking for role claims. Pinocchio might not be scum, but they gave scum cover they can use. You might not be scum, but you gave scum ammo they could jump on. I'm convinced there is scum somewhere in there. You started the claims. What we're left with is sorting out if you're scum, or if others took advantage of the chance they were given.
My concern that I'm putting here for posterity and town's sake is that you sound dangerously close to suggesting without flatout saying that we need to chain flip Grogu voters.
Do you think Grogu's wagon is clean?
Yup, completely different role and might've changed my opinion if they claimed it.
Nopers.
Oh I totally forgot...Oscar said "Jeff is town". But I couldn't tell if that was a read or a hide. If so I'll change my vote. Maybe Abby. I need to do a re-read...
If Jeff is town, that helps narrow the Grogu voters list down:
We're wrong most of the time until we're right. It happens. I'm with Mew that we have scum on Grogu, and I think you're town, which leaves where we've been spinning our wheels for days: Lamb or Triumph. (can you confirm if you checked Jeff?) I can't even count the number of times we've thrown suspicion at Lamb and Triumph, but we find something else to latch onto and don't commit. If neither of them are scum, I will eat my shoes.
Feeling strong you're town at this point so would love to hear your thoughts on the mass claim shenanigans, and where your head is at in general at the moment.
If any doubts on me, hit me with whatever you have making your skin crawl. Better we get it all out there so we don't trip into a bunch of end of day votes where no one has reasoning out there. So-
-Could you shed some light where your head was with this post? Some read it as a kneejerk scum reaction, and I don't think you ever commented on it. It's stuck in my head, but as I'm reading it today I'm hearing it less prickly than the day it happened, but I still struggle to let it go as I re-read the game to look for anything and everything I can.
Nope, nobody has granted me a refill I'm afraid.
To show that I would vote either of them. I don't think Pinocchio's role is town, and if you look at their voting pattern it has been exclusively trainy except for yesterdat where they didn't vote at all. Jeff has made some scummy-sounding posts as I've talked about previously, so unless ol Groucho explicity says he's town, he goes on my scum list too.
Do you think that Mr. Mew and Lamb can be scum together? I really doubt all the rivalry between them was planned.
I still have my doubts about Fozzie, dude totally believed me when I claimed and ended up voting me because "neutral".
Can you brainstorm with me why Bert died then? By all accounts, he should have had the BP vest right? What ate his vest?
Great, we can side eye each other all day then since something is off here and I want to understand why
So you believe that Miss Piggy vs Fozzie from D2 was manufactured? Could be...I guess I kind of read it as scum flailing, trying to latch onto something. Especially since Miss Piggy did not clock Fozzie previously in the day. She does interact a little with Fozzie on D1 though which is interesting...but doesn't read as casting shade at all.
No reason to believe they weren't strongmaned.
Fozzie was hardly the reason for Piggy's downfall, hell when Piggy claimed Fozzie voted away and only returned after I counter-claimed, by then 4 people were on Piggy. Reading back it doesn't feel genuine, like for example Mr. Mew and Lamb, feels like creating distance in case 1 goes down, hell I'd say there's a good chance Fozzie is Piggy's alt.
If you think I’m piggy’s alt then you haven’t read the thread. Every time someone says this, I’m convinced people are just skimming without actually taking anything in.
Literally zero chance.
Checked for language in common. Found nothing. Miss Piggy wrote in character for some and doesn't have a lot to work with
I had totally misread that post
Ok I must've missed something then, enlighten me instead of coming in just to say I'm wrong.
This confused me too, because for me a tracker would get the name of the person visited by their target, while a motion detector would pick up moves from or to the target. But idk, not sure how much it would change yesterday.
Is this vote because Triumph encouraged the claiming or because you think they have the worse vote on Grogu?
Am I dumb? I don't get it.
You can disagree, but pull up how Fozzie wrote their first day. Then read how they've written since Shang went out.
So you're telling me Fozzie is neutral essentially?
I’m not allowed to answer this question but I can certainly make unidentifiable shrugs towards other posts on this page.
No, I’m town. I’ve theorized on this plenty.
But why?
If they are, it doesn't change what we need to do. We have to find scum today or tomorrow.
I was going to argue that point too but honestly it kind of makes sense. Do they need to vote from all 4? No, they could do whatever. But we are only talking about two people behind these accounts. Either they were both here or they weren’t, so you would expect they would use all 4 of their votes if they were here.
I do think this is a pretty good lead tbh. Piggy was introduced later in the day so Mr. Mew has the vote in the best spot to have been an attempt to save Piggy.
I hide, so I die when the person who I hide behind dies, and from what I understand other bad things would have happened to me too in that case.
I’ll ask the question differently since people keep talking past each other. If you are hiding behind me and someone tracks me, would they also be tracking you?
I can not confirm Jeff.
idk I'm not gonna call anyone out because we win or lose this together, but we don't have a good track record of trying to solve this by figuring out what scum would do. This is a unique setup and unless it's scum making noise there are plenty of posts where we've been left asking why the scum team has done what they've done. We need to go back to basics. Find scummy behavior, and I see it somewhere in the mass claims.
Ok this changes a lot then, I had written down Jeff as town.
You can tell us Fozzie... Your actual win condition is to lunch Oscar right :P
I kind of feel 90% certain of this lol. But can't do much with this right now
I still think you're town, but everyone talking about second guessing themselves and not feeling confident is worrying. "Oops, we just murdered blah blah blah who was town but hey---I told ya'll I wasn't feeling confident and second guessing myself," says scum the day after they vote out another town player.
Truly, I don't know. I need one of you to flip scum. It's not Elmo. Not Fozzie. Not Kermit. Not Oscar. I hope not Oscar. In my opinion, we fucked if any of those 4.
Objection, your honor. I move to strike.:(
I can confirm one thing.
You are 90% sure my win condition is something I have never tried to do this whole game? Sure ok.
You're just biding your time. Look at Fozzie's eyes. Them's the eyes of a patient monster waiting to strike.
Hrm. I don't hate this. Except I've liked Mew's idea on the Grogu votes (that's not enough to make me toss your post out of course). I wish there was more overlap between the Headdy votes and Grogu but it's pretty nonexistent. The really hilarity and curiosity will be if scum put 0 votes on Headdy because they just didn't give a shit about Piggy, which might also explain why Piggy just rolled over and died.
We're waiting
Feel free to share about Abby. He talks a lot and I'm left thinking it's an act.
It's the only other viable counter wagon to Miss Piggy besides Dynamite. Though to be fair, it wasn't really that viable until my own vote.
Yah I agree. Although I can't decide which one of you is scum, or whether you are both scum
What's up with this post then? I read it and thought you must've claimed something.
Obviously not because we know the day 1 miss piggy vote was 100% pure.
Pinocchio I tagged you incorrectly one post above can you answer that question?
I wasn't sure between the two wagons, so I wanted to add another one to the mix to see if somebody would take the chance to save one of the existing wagons.
At the time I was still under the impression that "many Vanilla roles" meant that more than half the roster would be Vanilla.
