Loool
Malus might kill him though, then again there's also Blarg and Stu to kill, total rip
I don't think Mafia would've won even with Chugg not suiciding.
I don't think Mafia would've won even with Chugg not suiciding.
Spectator Thread Nuestros amigos Veterinary and Gambling Services Ltda.
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Yeah the only two ways I see him getting out of this is either getting rid of Muffin or Stu switching malus and someone else.
Also Chugg was getting early town reads before getting out, not so sure what would've had happened had he not targeted Fanto.
Also Chugg was getting early town reads before getting out, not so sure what would've had happened had he not targeted Fanto.
Why are these people still harping on that post of mine.
I was legitimately confused by these role names. There's literally no ulterior motive to me wanting these things to be clarified.
I was legitimately confused by these role names. There's literally no ulterior motive to me wanting these things to be clarified.
When I saw that I was an "Extra", I thought that I was a out-of-towner that was unable to be targeted by night actions or something. It was only after seeing the sample PM that I understood just what that meant, because my own role PM certainly didn't.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah, this would have been a hard win even if I didn't blow myself up, but it was possible. Scum just kind of feel like they've thrown in the towel these last couple of days though. I get it, but at the same time the last scum being alive being the bomb is a huge mistake on scums part.
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
Ugh. I feel bad, i dunno quite what it was, a combination of a bunch of things, but i just couldnt get into this game like i needed to be.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
I admire the play, but scum counter claiming the doctor just to get him out was too risky especially after losing a member on N1. That's two scum down after D3 and not enough time to knock off the important town PRs before the PoE closes in.
But then again without a strong kill, scum couldn't afford to miss a shot at night.
But then again without a strong kill, scum couldn't afford to miss a shot at night.
That's why I went with it. There was no way I was going to risk missing a NK with our strong shots gone.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
If they play their cards right, scum can maybe get to 4 players left, but I don't see them winning
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Reki can we open spoiler yet
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I don't believe in gifs
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I'm back!
I think the game argument that it would be too OP for Geno to control 2 scum roles is wrong for a few reasons.
1. The switcher gets told of the targets before they choose to follow or not
2. The mafia team knowing what switch is going to happen makes it easy for them to side step it.
3. Scum having Tracker and back up Tracker is not OP at all
The thing that goes in favour of both Muffin and Stuart being mechanically town is that the night Geno died Stuart was able to swap the kill off Muffin. For scum it is much better to get the tracker. And therefore Muffin is town because Scum shooting themselves when they couldn't know who was being switched is super unlikely.
If it gets to 4 with Fanto as one of them then we could see two no lynches for the mafia win.
I think the game argument that it would be too OP for Geno to control 2 scum roles is wrong for a few reasons.
1. The switcher gets told of the targets before they choose to follow or not
2. The mafia team knowing what switch is going to happen makes it easy for them to side step it.
3. Scum having Tracker and back up Tracker is not OP at all
The thing that goes in favour of both Muffin and Stuart being mechanically town is that the night Geno died Stuart was able to swap the kill off Muffin. For scum it is much better to get the tracker. And therefore Muffin is town because Scum shooting themselves when they couldn't know who was being switched is super unlikely.
If it gets to 4 with Fanto as one of them then we could see two no lynches for the mafia win.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Well the no NK is throwing town off. They could conceivably miss the last scum until it's too late.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
If I was Malus I would not kill Fanto. Kill Muffin and the lovers and hope to god town kills Stu, Kopite, and Oreo. That's pretty much his only path to victory at this point. I think he can get 2 of those if he plays this well, but I would be surprised if he got all 3 of the kills. This is towns game to lose right now
So, theoretically, if it came down to the final three and that includes Fanto, how would the final scum (who is the Super Saint) being voted out play out? Would Fanto be the only winner then?
There are currently 9 people left, so this situation is completely in the realm of possibility if 3 more mislynches happen.
There are currently 9 people left, so this situation is completely in the realm of possibility if 3 more mislynches happen.
Going over that kind of situation now, it's pretty hilarious. If I were Fanto, the very first thing I would do is immediately throw a vote on either player, doesn't matter which. That way I'd avoid the Super Saint effect. The remaining town would instantly know who the final scum is, but if Fanto voted for them then there's nothing they can do, and any arguing over the matter would be rather pointless.
Both effects would be applied simultaneously though, right?
That said, with that win condition, I wonder if it's possible that town can win despite having everyone in town be dead.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I suppose it could be argued the town wincon is to eliminate all threats while preventing a mafia majority - nothing says they have to survive while doing so. But personally that’s lame as hell so in my mind everyone will have lost.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Not by choice! :P
So Malus is final Scum then, eh? Yeah, I think Town has it pretty easily, he's on the list, and the logic we were working with has him going before Stu. My guess is Kopite still goes today, but then it's either Malus or Oreo tomorrow for sure.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I think Malus can get town to kill Oreo, but convincing town to kill Stu will be hard
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
That leaves him with Aeleus, Stu, and Wee so there's a chance, but that would not be fun
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I'll go ahead and just make my game-over post now since I won't be able to in the thread itself.
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@Reki this was an absolutely amazing game from top to bottom and I loved everything about it. The flavor is so amazingly obscure and unique, and the passion that you clearly put in to all of the Role PMs and the flavor posts is inspiring. I am very glad to have been a part of the
OFFICIAL
MUSIC
VIDEO
of Duque's latest hit.
The game design is incredible as well, with a lot of unique powers and interesting synergy between roles of every alignment. The way things played out on D2 is easily one of the most memorable moments I can remember being a part of in this community, right up there with the limited post-count day in MafiEra, and Faddy making the "guess that character" thread for HvV 2. The way all of those roles played off of each other and paved the way for that scenario to take place was hilarious and exactly the kind of wild and unpredictable things I love seeing happen in these games.
Overall yeah, it was a great game and I did have fun even though I was admittedly slacking off towards the end, partially due to the nature of my win condition but also my mind was elsewhere the last week or so. I'm also sorry for getting myself banned from the forum and forcing you to find a replacement on short notice. Still though, it was an excellent game and I hope you run more in the future because you did a great job both designing and hosting this one. <3
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@Reki this was an absolutely amazing game from top to bottom and I loved everything about it. The flavor is so amazingly obscure and unique, and the passion that you clearly put in to all of the Role PMs and the flavor posts is inspiring. I am very glad to have been a part of the
OFFICIAL
MUSIC
VIDEO
of Duque's latest hit.
The game design is incredible as well, with a lot of unique powers and interesting synergy between roles of every alignment. The way things played out on D2 is easily one of the most memorable moments I can remember being a part of in this community, right up there with the limited post-count day in MafiEra, and Faddy making the "guess that character" thread for HvV 2. The way all of those roles played off of each other and paved the way for that scenario to take place was hilarious and exactly the kind of wild and unpredictable things I love seeing happen in these games.
Overall yeah, it was a great game and I did have fun even though I was admittedly slacking off towards the end, partially due to the nature of my win condition but also my mind was elsewhere the last week or so. I'm also sorry for getting myself banned from the forum and forcing you to find a replacement on short notice. Still though, it was an excellent game and I hope you run more in the future because you did a great job both designing and hosting this one. <3
Being honest here Fanto, this is surprising. I was convinced you hated the game and wanted it to end asap after D2. Even had a bit of trouble when answering your PMs; it didn't look like you were having a good time and as such I didn't want to be as playful as normal in my answers.
So all I can say is, thank you. This is super nice of you to say, and a huge relief. But a bit unfair considering a lot of people contibuted to the design/running of the game - more on that when my post-game post gets... posted -. On the flavor front, GIFs are hard - there I said it - but role PMs specifically were overly long and confusing for a few players, so that's something I need to tweak a bit more.
And, let me ask; any player you really liked this time? That's a weird game-over post if you don't praise your fellow players!
Finally, you know you can count on the community if you need to talk about whatever is troubling you. Dunno if here - Spec chats are so weird and elastic after all - but count on it, whatever the place.
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Fanto
Confirmed Town
I got over it, I was frustrated at myself more than anything on D2, but like I said any apathy I was showing in game was a mix of 1. my win condition not minding whether Town or Scum won and 2. my mind being elsewhere lately and not being able to focus on the game.
Yeah, as you know I was confused by my role PM at first, but I still thought the flavor was amazing and impressively well thought out. My games have used third rate fanfiction and wiki entries for flavor, yours is legitimately impressive.
I think Verelios has played amazingly well this game, and I really enjoyed Kawls posts while he was around. Malus is, as usual, putting on a hella good performance as Scum. I might be forgetting others I would want to praise specifically but those are the first to come to mind.
I am upset, about a lot of things, and I feel unheard, but I'll be fine, I need to spend less time on the internet anyway.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Sucks how you, and many others, were treated. I said my piece in the thread which did a whole lot of nothing of course. People suck.
If we do 24h we'd be skipping exactly half the weekend, and not most of it, which is the spirit of Hecht Rhythm.
It obviously depends on your timezone perspective though. That's how I calculated it at least. But since most of the remaining players would see the day start late monday - Blarg even on tuesday - we'll change it to a 24h night phase, that will also speed things up a bit.
So thanks for bringing this up, Geno!
I said it, malus has more of a chance than what everyone thinks. He's a solid player and town started to get paranoid about Stu at that last EoD.
Go Sleeping Cats!
No problem, sorry if it sounded a bit rude. Wasn't my intention.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Giving Malus my energy
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
Hello everyone, that was fun. Thank you to Reki, after a long pause from mafia I had really fun again playing and was in a mood to solve, which happens rarely, because either the rest of town are way better solvers than me or I roll neutral and rely on powers :P
After my last tracking result about oreo scum would have been between malus and stu for me, too bad I died and oreo is still in play. Afraid I argued a bit too hard for a oreo lynch the day before, because that triple vote on Blarg seemed sus.
Well, I still believe town will win this.
After my last tracking result about oreo scum would have been between malus and stu for me, too bad I died and oreo is still in play. Afraid I argued a bit too hard for a oreo lynch the day before, because that triple vote on Blarg seemed sus.
Well, I still believe town will win this.
He predicted you'd track him and that trying to directly get you out would be hard with Stu still having a shot to protect you, so he refrained from issuing it.
Funnily enough he correctly guessed that Stu's most likely target to switch with you would be Kopite, but decided against targeting there just in case.
So yeah malus can read minds so don't underestimate him.
malus may actually pull this off if oreo gets voted on today. Aeleus is a non-starter and Blarg/Vere will likely die tonight, making it between him and Stuart tomorrow.
...If malus actually makes it past MyLo he's not going to kill weemadarthur, right? That would be so mean lol.
...If malus actually makes it past MyLo he's not going to kill weemadarthur, right? That would be so mean lol.
Since Muffin died yesterday, I think Stuart is out of shots now. He won't be able to prevent a killing.
Hmm, I didn't have limited shots. If others do then I wonder what would've happened if I chose targets for them and they were out of shots.
You would roleblock them if they don't follow your command, right? Then nothing would happen because there is no actionable role power to block.
The Lovers side-eyeing each other reminded me of Vere asking if I'd dare to couple him with a baddie.
You'd immediately receive a notification indicating that player was out of shots, and asking if you'd rather order to Track.
You didn't know the amount of shots beforehand because you were given a lot of information about the setup already. In fact a few role PMs are pretty generous with game information.
You'd immediately receive a notification indicating that player was out of shots, and asking if you'd rather order to Track.
You didn't know the amount of shots beforehand because you were given a lot of information about the setup already. In fact a few role PMs are pretty generous with game information.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I doubt he would kill Wee. Just let her win and hope she doesn't vote for you. There's more dangerous town around
No, I meant for the final kill command lol. If malus survives today and tomorrow he'll have to kill one more person after Vere/Blarg to bring the total amount of alive players to 2, and it'll likely be a choice between Aeleus and weemadarthur.
So, malus could kill the latter if he wanted to be evil. I don't think he will, though.
Ah, fair.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Oh yeah, good point lol. I would just let Wee win, but if it was still Fanto I would revenge kill out of spite for blowing me up lmao
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
ditto.
goddamn he may actually pull this off, either way he playing incredibly well.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
As a Neutral with no true allegiances to either faction, I will say that I am rooting for the Maf-
I am rooting for the Town.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
He's in for an uphill battle still because Stu isn't just going to roll over and let town kill him, but god damnit I want to believe.
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
god that will be a showdown for the ages, Stu can dig his heels in like nobody else.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah, this is probably over. GG Malus
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah, Vere is right about to bring this home.
weemadarthur probably won't hammer malus since they're afraid of the Super Saint (as they should be, because malus is that lol). The only options for them are to either not vote or move their vote onto oreo and have someone else hammer.
What is Blarg doing? There's no way the Super Saint would reveal themselves lol. If someone was town with that role they would've revealed it ages ago, like Day 1.
Blarg trying really hard to make town lose here lol.
malus has two options:
1) NK either Vere or Blarg and bring the game to a MYLO 3v1 with the people in contention being him and Stuart.
2) NK Aeleus in an attempt to sow discord between the two lovers and bring up the potential suspect list.
Option #1 is probably what he'll go for, since Aeleus doesn't seem like they'd be able to handle the MYLO pressure well. What'll happen on the final day will be basically up in the air, but at least it seems that still gives a better chance than trying to make experienced players like Blarg or Vere paranoid.
Here's how the vote is going to pan out:
-Stuart and malus will make arguments for each other in an attempt to convince Aeleus. Stuart is now 100% convinced malus is scum.
-Everyone will agree to a particular vote order: Aeleus will vote first, weemadarthur will vote afterwards, then the last person will be the hammer. Scum or town, there is no reason to do a vote any other way, since there's no reason to screw over weemadarthur here by making them a potential Super Saint victim.
-In effect, this will make Aeleus the sole person to decide which way the game goes.
All that said, I can't believe we managed to make it this far. After Chugg and I had to go early I thought we were set for a losing course, but instead malus almost single-handedly brought this into the final day. I'm impressed! I won't even be mad anymore if we lose lol.
1) NK either Vere or Blarg and bring the game to a MYLO 3v1 with the people in contention being him and Stuart.
2) NK Aeleus in an attempt to sow discord between the two lovers and bring up the potential suspect list.
Option #1 is probably what he'll go for, since Aeleus doesn't seem like they'd be able to handle the MYLO pressure well. What'll happen on the final day will be basically up in the air, but at least it seems that still gives a better chance than trying to make experienced players like Blarg or Vere paranoid.
Here's how the vote is going to pan out:
-Stuart and malus will make arguments for each other in an attempt to convince Aeleus. Stuart is now 100% convinced malus is scum.
-Everyone will agree to a particular vote order: Aeleus will vote first, weemadarthur will vote afterwards, then the last person will be the hammer. Scum or town, there is no reason to do a vote any other way, since there's no reason to screw over weemadarthur here by making them a potential Super Saint victim.
-In effect, this will make Aeleus the sole person to decide which way the game goes.
All that said, I can't believe we managed to make it this far. After Chugg and I had to go early I thought we were set for a losing course, but instead malus almost single-handedly brought this into the final day. I'm impressed! I won't even be mad anymore if we lose lol.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
ayayay
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
HOLY FUCK IT WAS MALUS
Stuart jumping the gun here makes him seem desperate. He's not considering weemadarthur at all.
Yes, he basically knows that malus is scum now, but this isn't the way to go about it imo.
Yes, he basically knows that malus is scum now, but this isn't the way to go about it imo.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
We were there lol. I put us within range of the hammer
That being said I def came off as scummy that entire game
That being said I def came off as scummy that entire game
You made Chaucha proud with that last vote, be sure of it!
I hope malus realized the night phase ended already lol.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Lol thanks for running the game Reki! It was bien divertido
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Oh great, now malus voted for Stuart.
GUESS THIS GAME IS BEING DECIDED BY THE NEUTRAL THEN. ROLL THE DICE!
GUESS THIS GAME IS BEING DECIDED BY THE NEUTRAL THEN. ROLL THE DICE!
Fanto
Confirmed Town
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
this game lol
I was sorta hoping for a battle of wits between malus and Stuart for the last day to try to convince Aeleus to go to their side, but whatever.
If the votes remain as they are now, there is no way weemadarthur will be the hammer vote. They'll probably just flip a coin and decide their vote that way, and then Aeleus will have no choice but to hammer where weemadarthur goes.
If the votes remain as they are now, there is no way weemadarthur will be the hammer vote. They'll probably just flip a coin and decide their vote that way, and then Aeleus will have no choice but to hammer where weemadarthur goes.
This would be such a hilarious scenario. Instead of trying to convince town that they're town, they'll be trying to convince the neutral that they're scum.
Of course, malus should win that argument easily since he has all the scum chat info. Aeleus probably shouldn't go through with that idea.
Verelios
Were-elios
Oh Stu...that series of posts look desperate.
But man, I really fucked up with that last vote. @oreomunsta, that was my bad.
But man, I really fucked up with that last vote. @oreomunsta, that was my bad.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Oooh Aeleus please
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Aeleus you coward. Hear my dude Malus out
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Not a problem! I honestly came off scummy as heck this game
@Poltergust were you honestly vanilla scum? I thought it was hilarious that you informed me earlier in the game that you had been vanilla in a role madness game before
Verelios
Were-elios
Nevah.
It's not up to Aeleus to decide anymore lol. Whatever weemadarthur decides, that's where Aeleus goes.
But maybe weemadarthur will be nice and just go along with what Aeleus said anyways.
Yes, I was purely vanilla.
In a ROLE MADNESS game.
Read earlier in this thread over how mad I got about that. Also my facetious post in the game thread towards the end of Day 2 complaining about being vanilla all the time.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
I get your frustration for sure because of how often you feel you land some uninteresting role.
That being said, you used your vanillaness so effectively lol. You convinced me to kill my own fucking dogtor lol
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
Verelios
Were-elios
Love you dog.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Wee can just not vote and the vote finishes 2-1.