Spectator Thread Buffy and CW Spectator Thread

[heymonkey]

I don't know what the shit is happening in CW at this point except some chaos and today will go a long way in determining what happens in Buffy. Town could win at this point or they could be town and fuck it all up.

 

[Sawneeks]

In other news, seems Sawneeks has been scum so long she's forgotten how to be good Town.

My Town skills aren't rusty, they've completely eroded and disappeared.

I still feel like such an ass for that tunnel on Gotham since I know how frustrating those can be. I'm sorry Gotham! ; _ ;

Now when Sneeks gets here, ask her who she thought scum was. lolololololol

>:(

I think you're just lying to me and all my guesses were totally, 100% correct. I wasn't off on every single one of my guesses, nu-uh.

....honestly though, I am glad Scum killed me even if it did take out LP. Now knowing how totally wrong my Scum reads were I likely would've ended up helping them in the end and going by what people are saying this Day Phase they don't have to waste a lynch on me either and can move forward to finding actual Scum. Was having a lot of fun though...and I was looking forward to diving into Sorian's posts but...

I believe in this Town.

 

[Sawneeks]

Also can someone send me a 'How to play Town 101' book please. It's uh, for a friend.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Also can someone send me a 'How to play Town 101' book please. It's uh, for a friend.

I'll do that if you send me a "How to breadcrumb" guide.

 

[heymonkey]

lol we need someone to write that one. would read. (meant the town one)

 

[Sorian]

Don't breadcrumb as a neutral with real role info.

 

[Sawneeks]

I'll do that if you send me a "How to breadcrumb" guide.

Deal.

Author's Note: S. Neeks has never been a Town PR and has never breadcrumbed a role. Please take advice at your own risk.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I like how paranoia over the cult in Console Wars has taken over, especially considering the reality of this oh-so-scary faction.

 

[Sawneeks]

Spoiler: for a certain buffy scum

My secondary objective for this game is to make Neeks trust me. After that, you can bus me.

I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW YOU SUCCEEDED BTW.

thought i could trust you too fjhskjg

i'm so proud of you, you grew up so fast. ; _ ;

 

[rac]

i still can't believe i got lunched on day one for coasting

 

[Corrim]

Also can someone send me a 'How to play Town 101' book please. It's uh, for a friend.

Look for scum with good activity and pressure.

 

[cabot]

all those notes and Gorlak missed LP's breadcrumb.


Notes are garbage. Proof in the pudding.

 

[heymonkey]

You can only surmise that Gorlak's notes suck here, my friend. Not generalizable.

 

[Sorian]

Notes suck all the time.

Truth of the world.

 

[heymonkey]

Oh man. Anytime someone says "definitely," you know they are wrong.

 

[CoolestSpot]

I am the scummiest town, so cant be upset with what happened.

 

[heymonkey]

You know, I gotta say that I haven't read a ton of games I'm not involved this closely but knowing how this one was set up from the get-go and watching how people are is teaching me a lot. So that's a nice benefit from running a game.

 

[Sawneeks]

i still can't believe i got lunched on day one for coasting

it was a bad lynch and town should feel bad. still don't know how you were 'coasting' and some other people weren't. :x

Spoiler

also didn't help that the scum team is on your lynch

Look for scum with good activity and pressure.

See, pressure and activity is not much of an issue for me. My issue is arriving at the incorrect conclusions due to what I find/see. I relied far too much on meta this time around to my detriment and just hand waved away reasons to Town Read actual Townies.

 

[Sawneeks]

You know, I gotta say that I haven't a ton of games I'm not involved this closely but knowing how this one was set up from the get-go and watching how people are is teaching me a lot. So that's a nice benefit from running a game.

see, now you can use this info to crush Scum next time you play. :p

 

[heymonkey]

meta is the real killer

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Don't play like Gorlak is playing. It's a one way ticket to NK land.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Also, don't tunnel. If you tunnel scum you get NKed. If you tunnel town you get lunched.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Also, don't tunnel. If you tunnel scum you get NKed. If you tunnel town you get lunched.

I take this back. Tunnel away!

 

[Fandorin]

Okay, I have no idea what is going on in Console Wars. Completely lost after that flip.
Everything in that last day phase was so weird.

 

[rac]

my picks for scum atm:

Spoiler

gog, blarg

 

[rac]

ive put in spoilers since ive read all spoilers

 

[heymonkey]

Well someone sure found scum.

 

[Sawneeks]

That's really gonna sting for Scum. Hopefully Town can take this and run with it though.

 

[cabot]

I'm not too surprised to be honest, Ty's bus was too last minute, looked calculated than genuine.


Most of the scum team are under scrutiny this phase. I would've been more surprised if vigi missed.

 

[Sawneeks]

I was going back and forth on Saw... Here is what tipped me off to slay her:

I'm giggling so much that those are what got me double killed. They were actually just jokes because I was dead tired/sick but now that you pointed them out they do look a little suspect given the flavor. Did not mean it that way at the time.

Sorry for making you waste a shot, Gorlak! Great job on Ty though!

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

That kill took major cojones.

 

[cabot]

I suppose if you read the line out of context it would look odd.


In context, it was after you said you were sick.

 

[cabot]

not sure what melon is doing right now.


She seems to be intentionally ignoring the simplest solution: Scum+Gorlak+LP targeted Saw.

 

[cabot]

lol that response to gorlak's claim is about the most Fran-iest response you could imagine.


He's a neutral killer guys, wrap it up.

 

[rac]

that was a fun read

i love town again btw

 

[rac]

it was a bad lynch and town should feel bad. still don't know how you were 'coasting' and some other people weren't. :x

Spoiler

also didn't help that the scum team is on your lynch

honestly i have yet to see a good day one lynch
never have i ever felt like there has been solid options
*shrug*

 

[heymonkey]

that was a fun read

i love town again btw

so fickle

GoG is right - Faith killing the mayor is amazing for a Buffy game. Especially after the ill choice of a rando (who happened to be Sneeks).

 

[heymonkey]

I will say I think this game has had a frustrating amount of "this person doesn't play like I play; therefore they are scum!" and we need to cut that shit out.

eta: except for the pizza with a knife and fork. Shame, Brazil; total scum move.

 

[Ty4on]

I could've woken up to a triple kill ;_;

 

[rac]

that shit happened to me in beserk too

 

[DCPAT]

Wow Gorlak. Well done!

This has been a really fun and good game untill now. Better than Berserk. It's not so weird with all these veteran players, but I really enjoy it. Wish I was alive.

 

[nin1000]

I will say I think this game has had a frustrating amount of "this person doesn't play like I play; therefore they are scum!" and we need to cut that shit out.

this is just human and i doubt that it can be "cut out" since its part of us. ( I am not following Buffy so i dont know if something bad happened )

 

[heymonkey]

this is just human and i doubt that it can be "cut out" since its part of us. ( I am not following Buffy so i dont know if something bad happened )

That it's human doesn't mean we can't be aware of the tendency and work to mitigate it.

WELCOME, TY! sorry you were killed <3

This has been a really fun and good game untill now. Better than Berserk. It's not so weird with all these veteran players, but I really enjoy it. Wish I was alive.

I'm glad it worked out! Am still super nervous pretty much constantly since it's my first design.

 

[Ty4on]

this is just human and i doubt that it can be "cut out" since its part of us. ( I am not following Buffy so i dont know if something bad happened )

There hasn't really been any big drama in Buffy. Some hostility, but nothing seemed too out of the ordinary to me.

One of my teammates is totally overthinking things. My death throws everyone's reads out the window because they have to work backwards from me and a certain bus was actually very well timed.

Which bus?
(didn't read your posts because lazy)

 

[Ty4on]

WELCOME, TY! sorry you were killed <3

Something must be wrong, I can't post I'm scum chat like EVERYONE ELSE AND THEIR DOGS

 

[Sorian]

Something must be wrong, I can't post I'm scum chat like EVERYONE ELSE AND THEIR DOGS

I can't post there anymore either :(

I did think your bus was well timed. It's just Gorlak never trusted you regardless and you were very distant from everything.

 

[Ty4on]

I can't post there anymore either :(

I did think your bus was well timed. It's just Gorlak never trusted you regardless and you were very distant from everything.

It was very gut and kinda ironic your post fooled me lol

Imo the only thing wrong with it was it created attention. I don't see myself doing anything differently as town there apart from the tangent points of reading you and Flush differently.

 

[nin1000]

That it's human doesn't mean we can't be aware of the tendency and work to mitigate it.

What happened in buffy? I mean if someone does not play like i do, so be it and if there are people who see certain ways of playing as scummy then theres that.

 

[Sorian]

It was very gut and kinda ironic your post fooled me lol

Imo the only thing wrong with it was it created attention. I don't see myself doing anything differently as town there apart from the tangent points of reading you and Flush differently.

When I say distant, I mean for the whole game, which is why the bus felt off to a lot because it was a stark contrast. You suddenly took a very hard and correct position when you hadn't been known for that up to that point.

That's how I read our suspicion at least.

 

[Sawneeks]

Something must be wrong, I can't post I'm scum chat like EVERYONE ELSE AND THEIR DOGS

I've already been yelled at about that, I'm sorry. ; _ ;

 

[heymonkey]

What happened in buffy? I mean if someone does not play like i do, so be it and if there are people who see certain ways of playing as scummy then theres that.

Oh, nothing in particular. Just shitposts must be scum, lists must be scum - like rattling off things without looking from the poster's perspective. There's a difference between shitposts to avoid and people who are just naturally a bit sillier. There are lists that only offer empty summary and lists that analyze. I'm not saying that legitimately pushing people isn't good - it's great - but here it's really just another version of meta arguments. Ultimately they're kind of lazy. We can do better as town, I think.

(will almost certainly sally forth into next game and do all the things I'm berating here)

 

[heymonkey]

Something must be wrong, I can't post I'm scum chat like EVERYONE ELSE AND THEIR DOGS

we got bad kids everywhere. people posting during the night. red texting. posting in scum chat. BAD KIDS.

 

[Ty4on]

When I say distant, I mean for the whole game, which is why the bus felt off to a lot because it was a stark contrast. You suddenly took a very hard and correct position when you hadn't been known for that up to that point.

That's how I read our suspicion at least.

I kinda see that, but it was just a vote and I had been a diligent voter. My cover was always I tried to stop a tie and not I suddenly started scumreading you.

Oh, nothing in particular. Just shitposts must be scum, lists must be scum - like rattling off things without looking from the poster's perspective. There's a difference between shitposts to avoid and people who are just naturally a bit sillier. There are lists that only offer empty summary and lists that analyze. I'm not saying that legitimately pushing people isn't good - it's great - but here it's really just another version of meta arguments. Ultimately they're kind of lazy. We can do better as town, I think.

(will almost certainly sally forth into next game and do all the things I'm berating here)

Fuck town :D

 

[Sorian]

Yeah, fuck town m8

 

[heymonkey]

omg so edgy

 

[heymonkey]

What the...? SweetNicole won't change her vote even if something new happens? k. o.O

eta: omg these splinter votes are so bad

what are y'all doing

 

[Ty4on]

shush

they may still find a way to not fuck it up

 

[Ty4on]

I wanted that Gotham lynch ;____;

 

[Sawneeks]

Splints i have a legit question

why

 

[Pedro]

Why, splints?

 

[Ty4on]

Vote: *Splinter

 

[Ty4on]

oh, Splinter is coming \o/

 

[cabot]

that was a thing

 

[Faddy]

People really don't like to follow rules.

 

[Sawneeks]

what a mess that Day End was. No idea how Town is gonna sift through all of that.

 

[rac]

can someone give me the cliffnotes?

 

[Sorian]

What the hell happened?

Why did he claim mason?

Did he know she was really a mason?

I haven't paid attention enough to know if any of that made sense.

 

[Sawneeks]

can someone give me the cliffnotes?

Splints lied about being a mason with melon
melon is actually a Mason with fran
Fran didn't out-right counter claim for some reason and let it play out
Gotham held off on claiming for a long time and when she did it was only a half-claim
everyone ignored Scum
Classic Town

 

[rac]

monkey i need the flavor and flip

im d y i n g

 

[Sawneeks]

also get ready for the anger against splints in 3....2.....1.....

 

[Ty4on]

What the hell happened?

Why did he claim mason?

Did he know she was really a mason?

I haven't paid attention enough to know if any of that made sense.

bored splinter was bored

5 bucks he flips vanilla

 

[rac]

theory splinter didn't know melon was already mason and just wanted to be saved

 

[rac]

well there it is

 

[Pedro]

bored splinter was bored

5 bucks he flips vanilla

haha

 

[Ty4on]

haha

I want my five buck ^^

 

[heymonkey]

monkey i need the flavor and flip

im d y i n g

sorry, blame mod chat (where they are wonderful and helpful and sometimes distracting)

 

[rac]

so if you were to sum up eod for town would you guys say it went poorly?

 

[nin1000]

I would love to just modkill the coasters.

 

[Faddy]

That Splinter thing maybe worked out for town. Killed a vanilla player which is the least bad outcome.

I guess some town PRs being outed is bad, maybe? With this many PRs out in the open a mass claim might work out.

 

[heymonkey]

Splinter is the better lynch, though- (scum spoilers)

Spoiler

Brazil would have been better if anyone had listened to Kyan!

 

[Sorian]

No one listens to Kyan.

 

[heymonkey]

No one listens to Kyan.

tbf I probably wouldn't either

 

[rac]

Splinter is the better lynch, though- (scum spoilers)

Spoiler

Brazil would have been better if anyone had listened to Kyan!

Spoiler

well apparently no one reads include either

 

[Pedro]

Everybody give a warm welcome to @Splinter :D

 

[Ty4on]

so if you were to sum up eod for town would you guys say it went poorly?

it went town

very town

 

[Ty4on]

Spoiler

well apparently no one reads include either

Spoiler

ain't nobody got time for novels

 

[Faddy]

I would love to just modkill the coasters.

Question, what happens if all the mafia players are dead, town players = cult players and both sides have worked out alignments so votes are always tied?

 

[heymonkey]

I LOVE LONG POSTS

LONG LIVE LONG POSTS

FUCK THE POLICE

 

[Faddy]

I LOVE LONG POSTS

LONG LIVE LONG POSTS

FUCK THE POLICE

tl:dr

 

[Ty4on]

I don't read past the first line of any post

 

[Splinter]

bored splinter was bored

5 bucks he flips vanilla

^^

 

[Ty4on]

my reads are bulletproof

 

[Ty4on]

I totally nailed that weak cop Verelios too

 

[Splinter]

In my defense, I was in a hole too deep to climb out of, and going quietly would have been a complete waste of a day. At least this could have been useful.

Even if it wasn't

Win some, lose some

 

[Splinter]

Soon as I died I named 2 out of the 3 remaining scum to Cabot

It's so much easier when you're dead

 

[rac]

it was beautiful

 

[heymonkey]

tl:dr

D: i thought we were bros now

 

[Ty4on]

In my defense, I was in a hole too deep to climb out of, and going quietly would have been a complete waste of a day. At least this could have been useful.

Even if it wasn't

Win some, lose some

you were almost able to

Spoiler

lynch a PR instead

 

[Corrim]

it was a bad lynch and town should feel bad. still don't know how you were 'coasting' and some other people weren't. :x

Spoiler

also didn't help that the scum team is on your lynch

See, pressure and activity is not much of an issue for me. My issue is arriving at the incorrect conclusions due to what I find/see. I relied far too much on meta this time around to my detriment and just hand waved away reasons to Town Read actual Townies.

To be wrong is to be town. If you were always right, you would be most likely scum. Lol

 

[Splinter]

you were almost able to

Spoiler

lynch a PR instead

I think they ended up in a better position though, depending on how much notice scum take of their claim (apparently they claimed? I missed it)