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turmoil7

turmoil7

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scum is seriously demoralised, personally I don't think they are in that bad of a position

I think that the solution out of this could be one bussing each other, doc fakeclaiming, then slowly and painfully night killing all the confirmed townies
 
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turmoil7 said:
scum is seriously demoralised, personally I don't think they are in that bad of a position

I think that the solution out of this could be one bussing each other, doc fakeclaiming, then slowly and painfully night killing all the confirmed townies
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I think they overbused each other and it's kinda their downfall, it was an interesting gambit but it unfortunately didn't work out
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

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Is this the part where you can relax and enjoy the sight of town destroying itself?
 
Faddy

Faddy

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Yes Gorlak. I love it.

With the pesky mafia roleblocker alive he never needs to present another check.

Living past 2 nights might be an issue. Monkey is dead tonight. Then Gorlak should be next but with Brazil as IC and Natiko all but confirmed he might be able to make it work.
 
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Faddy

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Wait i misread his play. He redchecked Natiko? That was interesting.

I guess for Doctor baiting purposes it has worked but it still leads to a mafia lynch tomorrow at best. Assuming town actually believe that Natiko is scum.

Long game for a solo mafia.
 
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turmoil7

turmoil7

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What about a redcheck on fep for that sweet sweet late game wifom? Too risky?
 
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Faddy

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turmoil7 said:
What about a redcheck on fep for that sweet sweet late game wifom? Too risky?
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Too much "why aren't you dead" potential for that I think. And once Fep dies the mafia can't roleblock and kill so Gorlak would need to present checks.

I don't think he could play the role properly and not solve the game.

And honestly the Natiko check is highly questionable as a town play. If he just greened OJ and Nomad and asserted there was a Godfather there is still room for suspicion and plenty of wifom left about whether he fake greened his partner should he not be believed later.
 
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turmoil7

turmoil7

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It's amusing that Brazil will live into d4 being IC

(we can assume that scum will kill monkey right?)
 
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Pedro

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turmoil7 said:
It's amusing that Brazil will live into d4 being IC(we can assume that scum will kill monkey right?)
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The rules say the doctor can't self-heal, they absolutely should kill her tonight.
 
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I see people speaking without spoilers tag? Should I keep on using them?

anyhow, it's too bad Gorlak had to claim when everyone was going after Sparkster. If he didn't say anything and just ride the flow of everyone considering Stan arguments it could have saved him for one more day.

Also I don't understand why they use the rb on the person they kill? It seems like a waste, no?
 
Pedro

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Mine was ambiguous enough but with the information above you could guess who's scum and who's not; sorry. Please, faddy and turmoil, tag your spoilers :P
 
Faddy

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Pedro said:
Mine was ambiguous enough but with the information above you could guess who's scum and who's not; sorry. Please, faddy and turmoil, tag your spoilers :P
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I mean who are you protecting from spoilers at this point?

I was more careful when Turmoil7 said they didn't want to know but after they looked everyone participating here knows the mafia team. We are beyond the critical mass where basically you either spoiler everything or just let it go. Like this message is a HUGE spoiler.

Faddy said:
The the hard thing that would win the game is reading Oliver and Sparkster as town.

Oliver is getting so emotional and I don't see him being able to replicate that as mafia. And Sparkster is just one dumb tell after another that he is town. Like that L_P call out, is he that oblivious as mafia? (Idk maybe)
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And just as a general thing, no one can resist clicking a spoiler tag.
 
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Pedro

Pedro

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People who may feel like coming here later, People who are here and want to be surprised. This is a spoiler-free chat, as spec chats have been. It will only stop being one once febe allows it, since it's his game.
 
Faddy

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Pedro said:
We're on d3, it's not even close to endgame.
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You say that like it we aren't going to be down to 1 mafia imminently.

This is the beginning of the end.
 
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Pedro

Pedro

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Okay, I'm hiding everything since you don't want to, Faddy. Even what you said is a spoiler. If anyone wants to use this chat then please follow the rules and don't ruin a spectator's enjoyment of the game.
 
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Yuta

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Not my best game. Not to sure why I claimed that redcheck on Natiko.

I didn't have much time to think of N2 actions and stacking was dumb, yes.

Anyway, super curious about how that trust in town could build up so easily over almost nothing happening ingame. Especially townreading Stan for almost posting nothing is beyond me.

Town plays a great game, especially monkey
 
Yuta

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If I get fep lynched, I get to throw dirt at everyone and ride that town cred to the end, but instead I'm the weird one with a suspicious vote :(
I banked too much on knowing alignments (fep, oj) and flips helping me justifying my decisions. Those flips never came.
 
Yuta

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Sorian said:
If anything, I regret not pushing Gorlak more because I wanted to but I didn't want to deal with him going aggro on me day 1 since he usually has early sway.
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ah, and to come back to this, I sensed that you'd normally would go harder at me for that nonsense argument we had. You didn't want to be in the spotlight, so you had to be a PR :p
 
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Include said:
you guys tried something new, it didn't work out after the rng lynch of rac but it was still interesting. Could have gone the scums' way but you guys weren't lucky.
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Nah, N2 actions broke our neck and town played very well, not much to do with luck I'd say.

I do wonder how far fep will go though. He's in a good spot. Kill choices are obvious - Monkey & Brazil - prime mislynch material is Sparkster - but by d5 things get interesting:

Nat, Jub, Stan, OJ, fep - it's not impossible to get 2 mislynches out of this field with the wifom we have, let's see how things turn out
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

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With all scum mia at d2 end, the rac rgn lynch, and the doc save basically scum had the worst luck

6 vs 1,

FEP needs 3 mislynches, jubjub, stan and comrade

Hard but not impossible

I would go after stan tomorrow for wanting the comrade easylynch
 
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Gorlak said:
Nah, N2 actions broke our neck and town played very well, not much to do with luck I'd say.

I do wonder how far fep will go though. He's in a good spot. Kill choices are obvious - Monkey & Brazil - prime mislynch material is Sparkster - but by d5 things get interesting:

Nat, Jub, Stan, OJ, fep - it's not impossible to get 2 mislynches out of this field with the wifom we have, let's see how things turn out
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fep didn't vote yesterday did he? I'm pretty sure it's going to be his downfall. Town was already doubting your fight with him and coupled with no vote it may just end.

I wish he will go far though just to keep the game going a little bit longer
 
turmoil7

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I completely forgot about OJ being on this

This gives fep more chances
 
heymonkey

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I already checked spoilers so I know and I'm shaking my fist at him and at town. I dunno if they will find him but MAYBE, MAYBE. That is well played. If he makes it out, it's deserved.

Sorian said:
Meanwhile Brazil will make Monkeya nd Natiko eat each other :P
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NOT SO, FRIEND - our bond was forged in the fires of town hookerdom (and Natiko not making excuses so I could be pretty sure he was town)

Faddy said:
Well success for town.

Will FEP ride that to victory?
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fucking probably, omg, i'm gonna chew all my nails off watching
Natiko might figure it but I'm uncertain of Brazil and the rest are a toss-up - here's hoping someone sees the light!

but I am half-certain they will lynch OJ today

Sawneeks said:
RIP rac

i can't stop laughing that they lynched him because Town just went 'FUCK IT' and went for someone semi-random.
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We all had the same reads-ish but couldn't agree on the top so FUCK IT indeed XD

turmoil7 said:
I wonder if this built trust between the Stan/monkey/nakito/brazil gang
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THAT TOWN CIRCLE COULD NOT BE BROKEN
 
heymonkey

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I sweated over my heal targets but it was worth claiming and dying to be able to PLOT TWIST on that claim.
 
Pedro

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I wanna see stan lose his mind against sparks :popcorn: (i want emoji)
 
Faddy

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turmoil7 said:
The Stan - Comrade thunderdome will be fun
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I don't see it breaking that way at all. Sparkster is getting lynched today as a policy lynch i have no doubt. I don't think it will amount to much of an argument. Sparkster will say they are wrong but won't defend himself in any sort of convincing manner. He just doesn't have the credibility with town because he basically stonewalls any conversation. He just avoids almost every question put to him so if he does that today he gets lynched, if he actually engages people I think it would be too much of a change and he still gets lynched.

I think mafia probably just kill Brazil in the night. Then we get our first big argument between Stan and NZJubJub. I think that is when town win or lose. If both are convincing as town they *might* get a sniff of FEP. Or they lynch Oliver leaving Stan and NZJubJub to try and assess properly in final 3.
 
heymonkey

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This is not the worst thing. As long as they don't touch Jubs, I think he can figure it out once he's left with two others.

I HAVE FAITH IN YOU, JUBS.
 
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I wish you a speedy recovery Natiko.

I hope Fep won't kill Brazil, he is town reading him way too much to lose.
Natiko would be a better choice.

Town still has enough phases to figure it out for sure but Fep still has a chance.
 
heymonkey

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He will definitely kill Natiko.

Why hasn't anyone yet memed the "that's a big arm; don't fight it" moment yet from Rampage? I need it
 
heymonkey

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Brazil: "you always get heated on endgame."

YES WELL LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A TICK
 
heymonkey

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I do think Sparks is the best lynch today - clear that air and even though he was right on FEPS (good job!) they will actually start discussing who's left but I really worry they will lynch Stan after that.
 
Yuta

Yuta

@Fireblend can we go all out on spoilers without tags please?

fep is safe until endgame, they'll go sparkster and than Stan - there is a way to spin this against natiko, but killing him is probably safer especially with Brazil being completely off.
 
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By the way Monkey, I gotta say the way you played this game was completely different than HvV, was it intentional? I mean you even put yourself on townie list :p I don't care about the (*)
 
Yuta

Yuta

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@heymonkey

jk, there is nothing to make up to :)
I've entirely faked my rage to get under your skin. The only things you can apologize for is protecting nat and not changing your opinion at the end :p

It's all well and good for me <3
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heymonkey

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Gorlak, you are my only Buffy friend (here) <3 <3 <3 <3
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Include said:
By the way Monkey, I gotta say the way you played this game was completely different than HvV, was it intentional? I mean you even put yourself on townie list :p I don't care about the (*)
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I'm trying to streeeeetch my game to prepare for the championships.

I wanna be all
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turmoil7

turmoil7

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More activity here than in the game :p

Although expected with the players evenly split between timezones and everyone basically agreeing to lynching sparks
 
Faddy

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turmoil7 said:
More activity here than in the game :p

Although expected with the players evenly split between timezones and everyone basically agreeing to lynching sparks
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It is looking like the last 5 will have 4 players in GMT+(lots) timezones
 
Yuta

Yuta

Would be nice to have Stan, OJ, fep and Jubjub taking over our community from the future for once ;)

It's not an easy life matching activity windows from Americans & Europeans. Which is why I understood Jub's disappointment completely.
 
Faddy

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Gorlak said:
Would be nice to have Stan, OJ, fep and Jubjub taking over our community from the future for once ;)

It's not an easy life matching activity windows from Americans & Europeans. Which is why I understood Jub's disappointment completely.
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There is an argument to be made for changing the deadline time to be more accomomdating to the living players.
 
Yuta

Yuta

Comrade Sparkster said:
I'm rolling my eyes at town rn
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Sorry not sorry, you have no reason to complain here. This all your own doing. You've been spouting bullshit and nonsense all game, and despite being currently tied fourth highest poster, I don't remember anything you've contributed outside random "lynch this person or that person" without any reasoning. You've been a liability.

I really hope that you remember this mislynch and try to improve. There are plenty of good plays to be inspired by in this game.
 
heymonkey

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Fine with the Sparks lynch here (good for long game), BUT BUT BUT

feps is as town as it gets nooooo
Consider for a moment, town, that maybe Gorlak, king of attempted fake claim, was a step ahead of you and read his history like that!

I mean, tbf, I'd probably be mucking this up, too
 
Sorian

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Checked in, I see that I probably don't need to come back until lylo.
 
Sorian

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"If we’re wrong then you likely have nothing to worry about still. Unless FEP or OJ are scum the game is locked."

-Natiko, 2018
 
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So I was heavy into Fep NK Natiko but jubjub is way too dangerous and can put doubts more so than Natiko, it doesn't help that he is into FEP too and he seems to be the only one really considering fep's lynch.

I am thinking it's better for FEP to NK Jub at this point.
 
Faddy

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The problem with doing something unexpected as the night kill is it might make town re-evaluate rather than just going down the line of their mislynches.

It is common knowledge within the game that mafia have to kill Natiko and Brazil because they are confirmed. Why should FEP ruin a narrative where he is seemingly going to skate to victory?

 
heymonkey

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He's so unengaged but they are just not paying attention, since Sparks, similarly disengaged, is a nice plump target for the lynch.

Maybe tomorrow. But my money's on feps to pull this off. LYLO could get interesting depending on who's left.
 
Sorian

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I’ve kind of spoiled it outside of tags anyway. dealwithit.gif
 
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Faddy said:
The problem with doing something unexpected as the night kill is it might make town re-evaluate rather than just going down the line of their mislynches.

It is common knowledge within the game that mafia have to kill Natiko and Brazil because they are confirmed. Why should FEP ruin a narrative where he is seemingly going to skate to victory?

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So you think it's best not to rock the boat? Even if someone is into you? Never played scum so I have no clue what each scenario will entail

heymonkey said:
He's so unengaged but they are just not paying attention, since Sparks, similarly disengaged, is a nice plump target for the lynch.

Maybe tomorrow. But my money's on feps to pull this off. LYLO could get interesting depending on who's left.
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Yeah he is taking being town read for granted, and kinda forgot that people town read him previously because he appeared to be scum hunting.

This day phase he isn't keeping his acting up while all the other townies are actively working to solve the puzzle. I worry that it may be his downfall
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

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Change it to 72/48 to spite everyone

wonder if Stan will be able to defend himself convincingly tomorrow after spearheading the sparks lynch

Not saying it is a bad lynch but y'all know he will get the most blame :p
 
Faddy

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Include said:
So you think it's best not to rock the boat? Even if someone is into you? Never played scum so I have no clue what each scenario will entail
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I think I would look at the alternative where FEP leaves Natiko or Brazil alive for final 3. Maybe I am being more generous to those players than reality but I think they would really stop and consider the whole game rather than just auto-lynch the remaining player.

And in that situation whoever else is left doesn't even have to think and immediately starts building a case against FEP. I think having OJ and JubJub/Stan in final 3 is the better move.

There is a chance FEP is thinking about leaving Natiko alive since he has thrown a small bit of shade at his confirmed as a save status. But then it is Oliver and Natiko vs FEP and Nat is quite heavily reading Oliver as town for actual reasons so that is a pretty dangerous situation as well.
 
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Faddy said:
I think I would look at the alternative where FEP leaves Natiko or Brazil alive for final 3. Maybe I am being more generous to those players than reality but I think they would really stop and consider the whole game rather than just auto-lynch the remaining player.

And in that situation whoever else is left doesn't even have to think and immediately starts building a case against FEP. I think having OJ and JubJub/Stan in final 3 is the better move.

There is a chance FEP is thinking about leaving Natiko alive since he has thrown a small bit of shade at his confirmed as a save status. But then it is Oliver and Natiko vs FEP and Nat is quite heavily reading Oliver as town for actual reasons so that is a pretty dangerous situation as well.
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Thank you! I wasn't considering the final 3 situation at all but it all make sense now. Mafia can be truly a chess game, I love it!
 
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From the Scum's chat

Why is Fep NKing Brazil? It makes no sense whatsoever, if anything Brazil is town reading him more than anyone else, I don't get it.
 
Yuta

Yuta

@Include - Brazil is a confirmed townie, so he has to die. It was either this or the next night.

I guess fep wants to leave open the wifom talk about Natiko today. He'll see if people will show mistrust towards Natiko, maybe he can exploit that in lylo if another nk becomes more attractive.

Also the confirmed voice dies with the townread on fep. It's better to not have Brazil starting to doubt him. While Natiko will go and look at everyone, trying to get fep (if he goes down that road) will make him look more shady as well.

It's a good move.
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

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My bet is that in the last day oj and fep will go against each other, I wonder who jubs will believe

it is fep isn't it
 
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Gorlak said:
@Include - Brazil is a confirmed townie, so he has to die. It was either this or the next night.

I guess fep wants to leave open the wifom talk about Natiko today. He'll see if people will show mistrust towards Natiko, maybe he can exploit that in lylo if another nk becomes more attractive.

Also the confirmed voice dies with the townread on fep. It's better to not have Brazil starting to doubt him. While Natiko will go and look at everyone, trying to get fep (if he goes down that road) will make him look more shady as well.

It's a good move.
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I see, yes it does make more sense.

Man, I have so much to learn about being a scum and the strategies involved ;_; it seems way too hard now that I think about it.
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

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I couldnt possibly known as I spoiled myself pretty much since the beginning
 
Faddy

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I like how Natiko knows he has a huge blind spot in FEP but so far has refused to push on it in any way.
 
heymonkey

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He does have people to bounce ideas off of. Jubs is there, Stan is there, and if OJ can get over his fear of endgame, him too. But everyone has to coordinate and they actually need to go through everyone piece by piece.

Odds are low that they'd find feps regardless, but it COULD be done.
 
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