Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This
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Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
The only circumstances in which I can see them doing that would be if either they have more JOATS - which I suppose isn't impossible, given that a fifty player game would need a large scum team who can do a lot of damage - of if they know that they could somehow bring back Splinter or ris role (s). Both seem very overpowered though, even for a game like this, so although it's an interesting idea on Zeke's part, I don't think it really stands up.
Holy heck. I just voted Splinter earlier because I thought Melon had some power where she could counter if I voted her. That’s fantastic we got another Scum!
Also, not sure why Natiko is targeting me, but whatever.
Shoot: Blarg, because we’re still waiting
Vote: Melon, because I don’t trust this Gladiator thing
Protect: CoolestSpot, who is too pure for this world.
Also, not sure why Natiko is targeting me, but whatever.
Shoot: Blarg, because we’re still waiting
Vote: Melon, because I don’t trust this Gladiator thing
Protect: CoolestSpot, who is too pure for this world.
You've completely missed my point. Not only was my reasoning against you purely about the content of your posts, but the fact that your readlist is barebones (due to you dropping townreads without explaining them) was the least important thing out of both of my posts about you. The first thing that drew me to you is why you came in during the early game and joined the No Lynch discussion, but then decided not to engage with anything else going on at the time. I'm still interested as to why, you never did answer me.
The basis of my second post and why I felt comfortable voting you was that beyond the readlist and a line explaining you dropping the 15th vote for No Lynch in the second event, everything in your post had come out of the first event. Even then half of it revolved around Verelios, who you'd already talked about at length, even though you were responding to Natiko's post in which he was specifically asking for new discussion from you about topics you hadn't already posted on. All together it makes it seem to me that all that had happened until then, outside of the two events, didn't matter to you at all: you weren't looking for scum.
To be honest I'm not entirely sure what the details of the other's arguments against you were, but between "I think they are judging my activity not so much my posts" and the complete misrepresentation of my reasons for suspecting you, its starting to look like you're worried about those trying to draw attention to yourself and looking to cast doubt on them by calling it targeting activity and making them look unreasonable. Seems pretty scummy to me.
VOTE: zippedpinhead
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
What is happening??
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
this is a fun game.
i am enjoying this.
i also need to sleep.
i think zeke is very wrong about melon.
i am enjoying this.
i also need to sleep.
i think zeke is very wrong about melon.
Punisher was a Doctor?
I don'r get it. How did they just die?
I don'r get it. How did they just die?
Looking back
Is this just really one big giant coincidence?
That timing right before the giant PLEASE STANDBY with 9 minutes betweee nin and the please standby message.
Just very interesting.
It’s not like people would listen
Y'know its kinda funny since I think scum going "Whatever its only a 15% chance, I'm sure it'll miss" is a whole lot more likely than scum risking their godfather/roleblocker in a scum vs scum thunderdome.
I'm not scumreading him right now, but you can be sure that I'm looking back to see if I should be.
I think that was me actually.
Hey speak for yourself buddy
Killing roles are strong
Guess it shouldn't be a surprise.
The main thing I take issue with is why those two. Did a role cop check Nin? But even if so, why Kyan.
Also again, that timing.. Super WIFOM timing there I think but something to keep in mind I guess.
Not sure, the only thing I can think of is the Verelios and Kyan connection, Kyan was heavily pushing for Verelios, but that probably isn't enough to reach a conclusion and even then would scum really kill him because he wanted to lynch Verelios? I doubt, and if so where did Nin come from? It might not even be the work of scum. There's a chance town vig shot them.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Hooolly shit
Is that the invisible hand of blarghy I see behind these deaths?
Is that the invisible hand of blarghy I see behind these deaths?
A Town Vig getting a double shot like that? Nah, I don't buy that. Considering Town outnumber scum, they probably have a good number of killing roles (and with the deaths N1, it seems that way) which would include some day ones.
My only question is, what power would get both of them unless we had two vig shots at the EXACT same time which would only be able to come from a coordinated scum team.
When will you stop shitposting? Anytime soon? Because if not I know where my next ITA is going.
A town vig in most cases does more harm than good. It's a mess to balance him but in a 50 player game I can see him firing 2 shots at once. But only once in the game, if that happens again then it's certainly not a town role.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
So I'm still confused about this
Someone summarize everything after day one?
Someone summarize everything after day one?
Mazre
Traitor of Humanity
Good morning
Day ITA #1 Recap:
@EzekelRAGE TruffleShuffle to death -> @Splinter HIT (scum)
@Stuart444 Specail Beam Cannon -> @Rynam miss
@Alexem BluffCalled -> @Kawl miss
@Kyanrute -> @Sawneeks miss
@Swamped ITAI -> @Alexem miss
@Geno SENDHIMTODAVYJONESLOCKER -> @Terraforce miss
@NeckToChicken Scathe -> @Rynam miss
@Poltergust Please hit? -> @Rynam miss
@melonrabbit Omelet -> @Sawneeks miss
@Rynam -> @Stuart444 miss
+ (related/unrelated) nin and kyan dropping dead for no immediately discernable reason (my gut reaction is that these are not a directed action, they may be player related though)
I'm in complete WIFOM land on Kawl at the moment
Feeling pretty towny on Stuart444, if he's not town he's made some super gutsy and super lucky plays so far.
I think I'd probably vote for Rynam at this point. He seems like he's trying to provoke shots at himself, safest reaction to that to me would be to vote him out.
Day ITA #1 Recap:
@EzekelRAGE TruffleShuffle to death -> @Splinter HIT (scum)
@Stuart444 Specail Beam Cannon -> @Rynam miss
@Alexem BluffCalled -> @Kawl miss
@Kyanrute -> @Sawneeks miss
@Swamped ITAI -> @Alexem miss
@Geno SENDHIMTODAVYJONESLOCKER -> @Terraforce miss
@NeckToChicken Scathe -> @Rynam miss
@Poltergust Please hit? -> @Rynam miss
@melonrabbit Omelet -> @Sawneeks miss
@Rynam -> @Stuart444 miss
+ (related/unrelated) nin and kyan dropping dead for no immediately discernable reason (my gut reaction is that these are not a directed action, they may be player related though)
I'm in complete WIFOM land on Kawl at the moment
Feeling pretty towny on Stuart444, if he's not town he's made some super gutsy and super lucky plays so far.
I think I'd probably vote for Rynam at this point. He seems like he's trying to provoke shots at himself, safest reaction to that to me would be to vote him out.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Oh eff off
Killing another townie is just going make scum that much stronger.
WIFOM because this game unreadable clusterfuck and It's hard to get a read on anyone.
First of all, language. Second of all, at least pretend you are trying.
Kyan is dead so can't ask him
Melon & Saw went at it earlier so it's not out of the blue or anything.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Rynam or Geno seem likely to be vig which makes sawneeks even more questionable?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
That way it’ll be extra ignored? Lol
I’d love to see some updated thoughts now.
Well shit, need to go back and reread his posts now. Did not see him as scum at all.
Seriously though, you can shoot at whoever you want but at least provide context.
See @StanleyPalmtree
I’m pretty sure I’ve explained why and even brought it back up for people to look at. Your actions during the TD were sketchy. You continue to coast as well.
What the fuck? And why those two of all people? It feels like we’re doing bad despite two scum being dead.
SEE @StanleyPalmtree
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
@Stuart444 you're townie. Are you in an innocent child or nah?
Wow, shit got dark real quick.
Only people doing badly are scum right now. Nin would have been better left alive as would Kyan. They have lost 2 scum by D2. Only they are doing badly considering the numbers in this game.
Even their choices of who to kill were weird N1 apart from Faddy.
Scum doing badly.
Considering ITAs are timed, better to get the vote in and justify later tbf.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, that was just bizarre. Came to shoot, provoked people, and then just disappeared into the shadows.
I'm not going to role claim if that's what you want.
(also Innocent Child? I think I saw that in Mini-Mafia which I briefly checked out. Don't they get revealed at the start or something?)
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Wait who else was scum?
Look at that avatar :___:
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Just feels bad to lose so many people in such a short time. And the last bit is bullshit. It lasts 30 minutes. If you want to shoot at someone but you can't explain why with 30 minutes to use then what are you even doing?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
No I just wanna know why anyone was targeting you?
Grizzly and Splinter
I've gone at him hard I admit. But after that shot and the scummy posts which makes me think of his opportunistic posting in D1.
Someone needs to shoot him.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
I'm starting to believe you more
Uh, do you mean the Ry shot? He said it was retaliatory.
Besides that, I've not been targeted too much outside of D1 where I had a few votes, Grizz, (Scum) Nin (Town) and Include (Unknown)
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
I'd like @heymonkey updated thoughts. Seems real suspicious that the gud doctor would disappear and in case you're wondering I'm semi paying attention
It's something I was thinking about because I'm not sure if he was BSing or not about the shots on him thing from earlier.
I can assure you, I am not. A role like that sounds fun tho.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
I'm really torn on Rynam. I think he knows full well that people are suspicious of his absence, yet all he's done today is turn up for an OMGUS shot. After going back over Grizzly yesterday, I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt, but this really isn't helping him.
Xbro
Bags his own tea
So it seems you didn't just peace out. You also didn't deny being scum, just that that was your role.
A scummon, pretty convenient for you to show up now.
Ryanm is way too obvious. He just comes when he does his business.
At this point you are either.
A. Scum.
B. Lynchproof town baiting us to lynch you so we can analyze who voted for you.
C. Some sort of role that punishes town when he dies.
Nope, Showing up on the Event was really my first time since Day start, Same on D2, got to sleep at around 2 and woke up an hour or so before ITA.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Skimming the TD, b4 catching a full reread of it a couple hours from now.
I laid the gauntlet down on the melon vote.
Nin and kyan both voted for melon in the TD.
Both get killed.
Melon NEVER answered a question directed their way about if they started the TD. Also noticed a couple of posters who are strongly against the melon vote also voted no lynch in the td.
Will be home in a couple hrs, to look more closely. Only got a chance to look at event begin and end.
I laid the gauntlet down on the melon vote.
Nin and kyan both voted for melon in the TD.
Both get killed.
Melon NEVER answered a question directed their way about if they started the TD. Also noticed a couple of posters who are strongly against the melon vote also voted no lynch in the td.
Will be home in a couple hrs, to look more closely. Only got a chance to look at event begin and end.
None of these help Town
A. Obvious
B. Making himself seem so scummy means there would be plenty of scum and town on him in a vote
C. Scum or Neutral if Neutral has some sort of role where he wins by hurting town.
Either way, nothing helps town.
You could make a case about option B. But yes A and C obviously don't help town.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Hold on a minute - sorry to bring up mechanics, but did anyone else notice this?
Nin was killed but Kyan died. Could they have been eliminated by different means?
I don't think there's a difference. This is most likely a host mistake.
Huh, I didn't actually notice the wording.
Was Kyan dying connected to Nin in some way because it happened at the same time? Or did they submit the commands in scum chat at the same time and Sorian just took both of them and did it at once.
But what command that isn't 'killing' would kill Kyan.
urgh.
I don't think so considering he wrote that back to back. I doubt Sorian made a mistake when doing that.
Not impossible but unlikely.
We should lynch him anyway. He's being very scummy.
Well, the last time there were multiple deaths, there were two different flavor posts. Maybe it's just stylized?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Something blurry comes into sharp focus
Details become magnified and a smell becomes stronger
Defend yourself ry
Details become magnified and a smell becomes stronger
Defend yourself ry
But this wasn't flavour I think. They were response to commands I believe.
But short of Sorian confirming he made a mistake it's whatever.
Nomad, what on earth is suspect about me saying IT IS 4 IN THE MORNING AND I AM TIRED AND GRUMPY before disappearing? jfc
So much action. Surprised about Splinter but not shocked. Having caught up on all posts yet, just a skim, and I have meetings this morning so it’ll be a minute.
So much action. Surprised about Splinter but not shocked. Having caught up on all posts yet, just a skim, and I have meetings this morning so it’ll be a minute.
Are multi kills usually seperated?
My first time seeing it honestly so I'm just going off what I think from what I see here.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
I'm wondering if Kyan was eliminated due to some kind of condition. Let's say that Nin was taken out by a direct killing command - that could result in the 'was killed' statement. Kyan, however, might have been killed by another means - perhaps a kickback for trying to shoot Sawneeks or being passed some kind of trap item overnight.
I want to stress that this is all conjuecture. The reason that I think of this is part of the reason why I shot Kawl earlier - after what he said about it being a bad idea to shoot him, I wanted to test if there'd be some sort of penalty for trying anything against him. It might have been a sacrifice play, but it could have given us some interesting information.
I want to stress that this is all conjuecture. The reason that I think of this is part of the reason why I shot Kawl earlier - after what he said about it being a bad idea to shoot him, I wanted to test if there'd be some sort of penalty for trying anything against him. It might have been a sacrifice play, but it could have given us some interesting information.
The latter is more likely than the former. I think a kickback from trying to shoot Saw would have happened sooner.
Interesting thought though.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If it was an item there's a pretty likely suspect as only one item has been confirmed to exist, but this feels like a leap overall.
Nah, I thought it was clear enough.
My current thinking is that scum were able to link the two that died together and since only Nin was 'killed', I'm guessing they were the one shot by someone via a day action and Kyan paid for it as well.
I don't know if there is generally powers like that so maybe Mafia vets might think it's a little out there. I'm just thinking off the top of my head due to their deaths at the same time.
SUPER anti town. But it could just be that you’re sloppy as hell. But if you’re town, please don’t. Don’t hurt us like this. Think things through, please.
I think it’s just someone with a bad read. Shooting Splinter like that gives him good traction in my book and I really don’t think scum would do that. Even with math on their side.
Speaking of math, and we now all know it’s not your strength, lol, but two scum and all those townies? Not a bad trade. Would rather have them here, obviously, but if we can keep that rate up, that’s not bad.
I worry that ITAs will end up fucking us, though. :/
Like so. He’s probably town.
The thing that gives me pause is that they happened in the same post, so I’m guessing related in some way.
How does scum Nomadic usually play? Less shitposts and fluff?
Had this whole conversation earlier. He’s never rolled scum unless this is his first time. I never game he’s engaged a little more. This is actually so far the most engaged I’ve seen him, a little more than the mini.
It’s always possible but most likely he’s town and I’m gonna guess if he’s scum, it’ll show.
If we don't know his scum play then we don't know if he would do the same as scum. But I'll take your word for it and that that's how he usually plays.
Xbro
Bags his own tea
Okay, so I'm not able to locate the exact posts by Grizzly I was looking for. Just the general feeling that was going on during the discussion. Basically I wasn't going after Grizzly because he was acting like Monopoly, I was going after him because I was catching him on the same things that I caught him on in Monopoly. It all hinged on whether or not Vere flipped if it was the same situation. Grizzly's posts leading up to his Vere vote felt like he knew something else and was just waiting for an opportunity to jump on it. At least this was my thoughts at the time. I had already gotten a bad vibe from Vere, so I figured if he flipped, then it was pretty much guaranteed that Grizzly was scum. Now we've been put into the reverse situation and I still think my initial analysis is correct. I find that the observations I make while reading the thread tend to be correct when I initially make them. I'm not sure if I can rally anyone on this but I trust my gut completely and I'm willing to take responsibility if I'm wrong.
For my shoot Lynch protect, I would shoot Vere, lynch Rynam and protect melon.
If Rynam really does have an ITA protection I would rather just Lynch him.
Melon seemed, to me, to use the Thunderdome as a means of Investigation on splinter. So I honestly think that is a town thing to do
For my shoot Lynch protect, I would shoot Vere, lynch Rynam and protect melon.
If Rynam really does have an ITA protection I would rather just Lynch him.
Melon seemed, to me, to use the Thunderdome as a means of Investigation on splinter. So I honestly think that is a town thing to do
Can anyone point out the soft claims we've had so far?
I am suspicious because of what I said earlier when the day started so if a train started, I wouldn't be opposed to it.
But I'd rather lynch Ry first if we can't ITA him.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
After this morning, I get the feeling that ITAs by themselves aren't a very efficient way of eliminating someone - 15% isn't exactly a high success rate. I think they need to be boosted to be truly reliable - I doubt Hecht was the only one with a boosting role of some sort.