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Franconp

Frank
That reminds me!

Fran or a mod, can anyone spoiler exactly what happened night one that led to the redcheck? I really want to know who did what to whom

We switched Stuart with me and I made the kill so Vere got my results instead. And I got Kalor's dorito.
 
And I got Kalor's dorito.

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EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Faddy, feps, and Fanto finally forge a... falliance.

And with Monkey finally being pushed out of the town circle. All that "protect: Monkey" earlier in the phase had me worried.

Credit where it's due, Faddy has solved this game. He just needs to convince town to follow the lynch order he listed.
I was worried with all the protect monkeys as well. I figured they would kill Kopite after they mentioned going harder on monkey, but others have picked up the slack so kopite should be safe from kill.
Scum feel pretty confident they can force the one additional mislynch they need to win.

I'm not sure though now that Faddy has pointed out Include again. If he wants to win this he needs to rally more people to his side on Monkey and especially Include, because I don't think many suspect her currently. Mafia team is discussing doing the smart thing and leaving Monkey as the lone "town leader". It could have been tempting to try and final three coin flip it with FEP and Monkey, but uh...that would have ended very poorly for them.
killing fep is bad idea imo. Would make monkey look bad. Only other public voice and still alive.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I was worried with all the protect monkeys as well. I figured they would kill Kopite after they mentioned going harder on monkey, but others have picked up the slack so kopite should be safe from kill.
killing fep is bad idea imo. Would make monkey look bad. Only other public voice and still alive.
Well as it turns out

they’re back to thinking they can get FEP lynched which is going to monumentally fuck them lol
 
Wow, TWE's going all in on that busing strategy. I feel like this is totally unnecessary since he is already considered to be town by pretty much everyone; he's overplaying his hand.
 
Wow, TWE's going all in on that busing strategy. I feel like this is totally unnecessary since he is already considered to be town by pretty much everyone; he's overplaying his hand.

I guess he's been taking lesson from Grizzly :P
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Well as it turns out

they’re back to thinking they can get FEP lynched which is going to monumentally fuck them lol
yea lol. Should be fun to watch though. They could lynch fep if it wasn’t for the override
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
Man blarg has really shifted into maximum nonsense overdrive hasnt he?

And town just seems to be letting him.
I mean its not like they could really stop him but like noone seems to be calling it out as the deliberate obfuscation it is.
 

cabot

Why.
They should look to day start once Blarg flips. Scum were pretty transparent in trying to keep him alive
 

cabot

Why.
I feel a vet who has played with zook and remembers would be useful to scum read him.

He was very very safe this game, which was not normal for him.

Include has done a good recovery job though.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Quite a bizarre read list, even by nin's standards, but
nin said:
Blargonaut
I think Blarg was once neutral converted into town but since he burned the ground with every single player in this game him surviving this day phase is slim. Maybe Nin will come in and drop a bomb in order to save him
Please tell me nin doesn't have an override.

Fake edit: seems it's feps with the override. I'm... ok with this
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
I feel a vet who has played with zook and remembers would be useful to scum read him.

He was very very safe this game, which was not normal for him.

Include has done a good recovery job though.
I dunno about Include, noone's really looked too closely at her yet. I think when they do (especially with a couple of scum flips to consider) they'll figure her out.
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
absolutbro said:
Verelios: If we don't hit scum today, are you okay with dying tomorrow so our alignment cop can know if we have a switcher or not? Assuming the alignment cop doesn't die first, that would be mean we would know who is red and who is green.
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Franconp

Frank
Maybe because the cop don't have any red checks. And most of his targets were killed or lynched.

At least that's what I thought until I was lynched.
 
I'm still not completely convinced that Chuggs is town, but if it's between AB and Geno, I'm voting Geno
DO IT BATTOUSAI!

(Honestly, if a townie other than Vere dies today town is in a lot of trouble, because he'll likely get lynched the next day and then the rest of the game will be MYLO.)
 
DO IT BATTOUSAI!

(Honestly, if a townie other than Vere dies today town is in a lot of trouble, because he'll likely get lynched the next day and then the rest of the game will be MYLO.)

At this point, I have no idea how they will get TWE. He has committed to bussing all through the game and those left in the game may not be able to catch him out before it's too late for Town.
 
At this point, I have no idea how they will get TWE. He has committed to bussing all through the game and those left in the game may not be able to catch him out before it's too late for Town.
If it gets to 2v1 then town has a chance, especially if rac is still alive. I think rac is perceptive enough to think "hey, my fellow Gossiper hasn't died in a game of 25 people yet, that's really odd"; so it'd just be a matter of convincing the remaining townie (likely Chuggernaut or battousai due to them being new) to side with him.

I wonder if TWE will realize this and kill rac before it gets to that point, though. Likely NKs are him, Godfather, Vere (if Geno dies first), and Kitsunelaine.
 
Vere is so getting NK'd.
TWE has firmly placed Vere into his towns list meaning going back on it at this point might be too suspicious. Easier to NK.
 

Franconp

Frank
At this point, I have no idea how they will get TWE. He has committed to bussing all through the game and those left in the game may not be able to catch him out before it's too late for Town.

It's suspicious that he was right about everything and always voted scum but scum never killed him.

Town Beloved? In a game like this?

That's seriously a worse claim than Spark's doctor claim on Day 1 lol.

Sparks claim was to bait the doctor and it worked great.
 
I'm kinda laughing with the name "You are a bus driver" lol.

But yeah, Vere is almost certainly dead. I'll be shocked if he survives the night.
 
Sorry Fran, I don't know how I could've played that better given my situation.
Wait, that wasn't an act to make your scummate seem better?

You, uh, made it very easy for other people to vote for you lol. Going super hard on Vere like that was simply too much.

EDIT: Also, I have to give props to town for being as patient with Vere as they have been; it's really hard to keep faith in someone when they give a false red-check. He could've easily been lynched Day 3. Now town has 4 chances to find the last scum.
 
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Wait, that wasn't an act to make your scummate seem better?

You, uh, made it very easy for other people to vote for you lol. Going super hard on Vere like that was simply too much.
Day 1 after replacing was a genuine push on Verelios, after Fran got lynched there was no chance but went for it, after it was obviously not going to happen I decided the best thing was to boost
TWE. Also I had a slight feeling there was no cop because it seemed overkill but trusted Kawl's bastard talk about this community, oh well probably wouldn't have claimed it anyway
 
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Franconp

Frank
If ET didn't died D2 this game would have been really different.

With no ninja flip Vere is lynched D3 without a doubt.

We were just a couple of second close to pull it off. I still don't understand why ET didn't voted Rac and tied the vote instead of calling Trigger out.
 

Franconp

Frank
I don't like the beloved claim unless you are actually a beloved scum.. It's kinda useless because it's so easy to prove.

They just vote until majority. If the player dies he was lying. If the player is still alive they can discuss how to proceed. But town doesn't have an incentive to not try lynching the player.
 
To be honest I thought I was safe until I got 2 votes back to back which I didn't expect. I was in the middle of a LoL game and panicked because time was almost up, I'm not sure if any claim would've saved me at that moment.
 
I don't like the beloved claim unless you are actually a beloved scum.. It's kinda useless because it's so easy to prove.

They just vote until majority. If the player dies he was lying. If the player is still alive they can discuss how to proceed. But town doesn't have an incentive to not try lynching the player.
Oh, I thought Geno was claiming this:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Beloved_Princess

But you seem to be talking about something else?
 
Bastard Scum talk: Could probably have claimed Alignment Cop and claim that you got a red check on TWE for super town points.

Considering the way the game has played out, if I was one of the last two scum alive, I'd probably have gambled with that. (yes it'd be risking counter claim but at that point, I might have risked it cause "fuck yeah I'm scum as fuck")

(I hope to roll scum again one day :( )
 
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Bastard Scum talk: Could probably have claimed Alignment Cop and claim that you got a red check on TWE for super town points.

Considering the way the game has played out, if I was one of the last two scum alive, I'd probably have gambled with that. (yes it'd be risking counter claim but at that point, I might have risked it cause "fuck yeah I'm scum as fuck")

(I hope to roll scum again one day :( )
How do you explain being alive the next days?
 
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Town has had all the resources. They’re just using them badly. The game is incredibly balanced but only a few have used their pr’s well. Melon used hers effectively, and a few others.

Like, the bodyguard didn’t submit a night action until last night. Lol.

To be fair to this!

I didn't forget or anything, I just chose not to use it at the time. My power doesn't take scum with me or anything. I just take the bullet in their place with no one really knowing for sure what happened outside of me and scum. And I'm not going to die for anyone based on my Day 1 reads. I have to actually trust them a good bit and see some purpose in keeping them around over me.

GOT mafia team about to be so unhappy

My line of thinking was that Monkey was scum and trying to set me up with those comments about Blarg the day before. But, I hadn't been active enough or really putting myself out there as much of a town voice to really stand out against her when she was so widely town-read. I try not to read into compliments as potential setup for later, but I can see that a little bit now in Include's post about me now as well. It did stand out as a little odd to me seeing as this is only my 2nd game really, but still!

I do appreciate you two setting up this game for us, and I think the balance is fine and everything, but jeez, that game was a massive headache and I'm kind of glad to be out of it now. Just the aggression, the trolly plays, all of it just made for such an exhausting experience and really killed my enthusiasm for this and future games a good bit.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
To be fair to this!

I didn't forget or anything, I just chose not to use it at the time. My power doesn't take scum with me or anything. I just take the bullet in their place with no one really knowing for sure what happened outside of me and scum. And I'm not going to die for anyone based on my Day 1 reads. I have to actually trust them a good bit and see some purpose in keeping them around over me.



My line of thinking was that Monkey was scum and trying to set me up with those comments about Blarg the day before. But, I hadn't been active enough or really putting myself out there as much of a town voice to really stand out against her when she was so widely town-read. I try not to read into compliments as potential setup for later, but I can see that a little bit now in Include's post about me now as well. It did stand out as a little odd to me seeing as this is only my 2nd game really, but still!

I do appreciate you two setting up this game for us, and I think the balance is fine and everything, but jeez, that game was a massive headache and I'm kind of glad to be out of it now. Just the aggression, the trolly plays, all of it just made for such an exhausting experience and really killed my enthusiasm for this and future games a good bit.
I would say to you what I’ve said to a few others now which is this game is the exception, not the norm. Early on a lot of frustration got built up and it just never completely settled down. I hope you don’t let what happened in this game deter you from future ones. You did good and made some good choices with your guards. You were on the right target twice, and almost on the right one when they got the lovers.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Damn, hostility may be creeping back in. I wish they would stop using the melon/splinter lynches. They should just imagine they didn’t happen, nothing is gained by bringing them up except sidetracking town.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
feps said:
Nah.


Nah.

Faddy is confirmed but he is absolute shit for everything. I would have lynched him ages ago if he wasn't so rock-solidly cleared, god bless us all.
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Franconp

Frank
Why kill Battousai instead of Vere? After that switcher flip noone will lynch him.

I think AB will be lynched today.
 

Swamped

Dazzling Mafia Queen
Damn, hostility may be creeping back in. I wish they would stop using the melon/splinter lynches. They should just imagine they didn’t happen, nothing is gained by bringing them up except sidetracking town.

I think I'll give the prize to someone who was nice lol
 

rac

whatever
fuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkk

yeah this game is toast
all my faith is on kits or maybe absolut or maybe vere
i think i told them all who i visited on night 2
 
I just want someone to slap Tearable and shout "OCCAM'S RAZOR" to his face.

I have no idea why Vere didn't die. There's no chance he's going to get lynched now, and not only did scum risk their movements being tracked, Vere got a pseudo-green check on one of the most scummy players in the game (AB), making endgame a million times harder for them because now all that'll be left are the non-scummy players.

EDIT:
VOTE: TearablePuns
But i will continue to defend myself, best believe that lol
>_________________>

EDIT2:

Wait, why are they turboing!? STAHP
 
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rac

whatever
scum team didnt even know what i was even though night 2 happened?????

why was i still alive lmaooooooo
 

rac

whatever
If it gets to 2v1 then town has a chance, especially if rac is still alive. I think rac is perceptive enough to think "hey, my fellow Gossiper hasn't died in a game of 25 people yet, that's really odd"; so it'd just be a matter of convincing the remaining townie (likely Chuggernaut or battousai due to them being new) to side with him.

I wonder if TWE will realize this and kill rac before it gets to that point, though. Likely NKs are him, Godfather, Vere (if Geno dies first), and Kitsunelaine.

well at least im not dead, does it still count as me?
 
well at least im not dead, does it still count as me?
Depends on how much faith you have in Apollo. Give him all your energy and maybe he'll be able to channel you.

...Oh wait, wrong Ace Attorney character. Guess you don't count anymore.

By the way, if I'm correct in assuming that you are able to enter conversations with other players during a night phase, was your ability X-shot?
 

rac

whatever
unlimited

man just thinking about the ending this game is going to take is making me happy sad
ugh
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
scum hasn't figured out that this game is copless, so they're spreading out kills and roleblocks to root out the cop - that's why you weren't NK'd, because they know you're not the cop
 
how is this happening?
town vere lied about scum absolut not moving?
what is the rationale?
I’m super OK with Tearable being lynched today because he’s making the least amount of sense out of anyone and derailing things. There shouldn’t be an argument over Vere’s alignment at all because this idea of super long-con of bussing the switcher (an argument that was first brought up on Day 2 by a completely different person) is absolutely unfeasible.

Not to mention that Vere was not even in the running to get lynched the last Day phase, or the one before that. What exactly is the rush here to earn townie points?
 

rac

whatever
like what the fuck is scum veres play here just keep confirming townies until there's no one else but him?
 
The odds of Town having a tracker AND alignment cop are highly unlikely.
Yes, which is why the alignment cop (which hasn’t been claimed by anyone yet, as opposed to the tracker) is the one that does not exist. >________>

I hope Tearable feels silly when he enters into this thread. He seriously better not cause town to lose with his extreme tunneling by making people doubt what should be two confirmed townies.
 
Is tearable serious on a scum role cop?


I mean why would scum even have a role like that? Have we ever had a setup with a scum role cop? Maybe I’m missing functionality on that role with scum
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Is tearable serious on a scum role cop?


I mean why would scum even have a role like that? Have we ever had a setup with a scum role cop? Maybe I’m missing functionality on that role with scum
Role cop is more scum than town? It's to help them find town PRs, and know how best to deal with them
 
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