Spectator Thread GoT and TMBG Spectator Thread
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Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, I think there's a few good candidates still after you weed out all the anger.
Try to use spoiler tags until someone says otherwise generally :) and welcome to the spec chat.
It's not, a majority ends the day.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Tearable played like this in Heroes and Villains. He wasn't lynched because he was confirmed town.
Also I really think there should be something in the rules to prevent ultimatums in the game, like "if I flip scum I will never play Mafia again".
Also I really think there should be something in the rules to prevent ultimatums in the game, like "if I flip scum I will never play Mafia again".
Franconp
Frank
TWE should kill Vere tonight as he won't be mislynched. But he will kill someone else hoping to shoot the cop likely.
That will put the game 5v1. If town mislynches AB the next day is 3v1, so no lynch and should end in a 2v1 day.
He needs to get rid of Vere and Godfather before that. Neither of them can be the roleblocker.
That will put the game 5v1. If town mislynches AB the next day is 3v1, so no lynch and should end in a 2v1 day.
He needs to get rid of Vere and Godfather before that. Neither of them can be the roleblocker.
If town lynches Vere or AB and causes us to lose, I blame Tearable. =P
Shooting randomly to get the cop makes no sense because you are tied up with roleblocking Vere, I don't know what he's doing, he needs to get the greens out of the game before it's too late.
Pedro
The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
I think last season alone we had 2 or 3 scum role cops, it's fairly common.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I don’t think Tearable meant to turbo himself.
That sucks.
And spoilers below
That sucks.
And spoilers below
TWE walking back the vote to look more townie... really really trying hard to be “the most town”
Tearable totally wanted to turbo himself to save town time.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
How is the most town read person still alive?
That said, let’s go through the list of players here:
Vere- Virtually confirmed town tracker
AB- Confirmed town by Vere check
Godfather- Double lyncher, i.e. not the Roleblocker; confirmed town
Chuggernaut- Very likely to be town by Vere check
Kits- Replaced Pogchamp, who led the lynch train against Fran. Should be considered town, but possible lynch target
Apollo- Town Gossiper, i.e., not Roleblocker; confirmed town
TWE- Complete unknown to everyone. Overall acted like town, however
So yeah, town basically has to just not throw the game away to win this one. There are really only two good lynch targets.
Vere- Virtually confirmed town tracker
AB- Confirmed town by Vere check
Godfather- Double lyncher, i.e. not the Roleblocker; confirmed town
Chuggernaut- Very likely to be town by Vere check
Kits- Replaced Pogchamp, who led the lynch train against Fran. Should be considered town, but possible lynch target
Apollo- Town Gossiper, i.e., not Roleblocker; confirmed town
TWE- Complete unknown to everyone. Overall acted like town, however
So yeah, town basically has to just not throw the game away to win this one. There are really only two good lynch targets.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
I feel bad for Faddy kinda lol.
EzekelRAGE
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EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
yea, got scum had some very bad nights kill wise. If kills went thru, they would’ve won already. Town only managed to lynch their first mafia last day phase, day 6.
OceanicAir
4 8 15 16 23 42
ET is so gonna die next phase
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
this is funny
with the exception et(obviously he wouldn’t vote himself) all remaining scum are on the et vote lol
So fep has some interesting company on that et vote with him
So fep has some interesting company on that et vote with him
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
So, Faddy just steered town to a major scum lynch he pushed. He just gained a lot of power.
Fep is probably gonna hate that lol.
Fep is probably gonna hate that lol.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
I hope FEP uses his power soon
I've been waiting all game for it!!!
I've been waiting all game for it!!!
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Inb4 he uses it on Faddy just because he is fed up lol.
OceanicAir
4 8 15 16 23 42
Faddy gon' be dead tho
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
He got the lynch he needed. Town should be able to mop up the rest.
Even Include exposed herself there
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, that overreach is going to bite them probably unless town falls asleep at the wheel or Include can sucker FEP.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
I doubt FEP is that gullible. He's been playing well and he's a pretty smart cookie.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
I agree he's smart and will probably catch Include, but this has been a pretty awful game for feps so far. He's had bad reads and always helped scum's agenda, and half his posts are dedicated to undermining (or outright attacking) the green check.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
Not sure if it was an intentional play or not, but Fanto had a great end to the last phase. Delayed his vote long enough for scum to think they could save Monkey, but also kept signalling to town that he would vote with them in the end. He held off just long enough to draw Include out, that could be really important later.
Kudos to Faddy for being able to finally convince people.
Fep has been wrong on all accounts all game, I have to agree with Splinter. I can see fep derailing discussion again. But he's kept the override for so long, so at least he has that. And I can still see him catching scum in the end.
Nin shouldn't be an immediate scumread anymore. People have to go back and look at Monkey's posts. The way she formed nin as an alternative to the blarg lynch should give him some credit.
Town has it in their hands again, never thought that would happen, please don't make me regret becoming hopeful again.
Fep has been wrong on all accounts all game, I have to agree with Splinter. I can see fep derailing discussion again. But he's kept the override for so long, so at least he has that. And I can still see him catching scum in the end.
Nin shouldn't be an immediate scumread anymore. People have to go back and look at Monkey's posts. The way she formed nin as an alternative to the blarg lynch should give him some credit.
Town has it in their hands again, never thought that would happen, please don't make me regret becoming hopeful again.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Per his mentor chat, it was.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
I think they kill gp over Faddy. Too risky gp may be able to protect Faddy imo.
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
that's the same thing except it involves whining about weekends
I'm expecting him to use it the other way and use it to lose the game.
rac
whatever
good things like no cop and a godfather ninja
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Goodnight sweet prince
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
It would be the only reason they lost. They were gifted things to hide behind discussionwise day phases 2-4ish.
For fun, I decided to go over my list of scum guesses back when I first died on Night 1.
I got no one right. :<
Hahahahaha
I got no one right. :<
Yea he hasn't used it yet. Fanto's calling him out right now. This phase is probably going to be interesting given there's no faddy to lead them down the right path.
Seriously, I'll be shocked if scum lose this. Monkey, I had assumed, would be the hard get, but it seems like everyone left hasn't figured everyone else out yet.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
They’re so close to two of them
Vote patterns:
Also lynching trigger gives you ZERO info. In 7 days him and indy managed to vote once each. Trigger has one post. It's a pity. Fep should rather push the ET lynch for info now.
Or they could also look into connections with Monkey instead?
Yeah, I can fault fep for thinking there has to be another scum in the exodus lynch. Looking at it, it should be very likely, but betting the game on it? Nah.
If they lynch trigger and he overrides Giant Panda, that'll be game over... 6 - 3 only leaves room for one mislynch
Or they could also look into connections with Monkey instead?
You can see how strange she behaved towards Meatwad for example as in ignoring him most game and giving out an arbitrary townread there. Hopefully they'll settle for Meatwad given how everyone thinks he's scum. Don't let him go!
Man, Fantomas conclusions are heartbreaking... Include is so townie with that failed monkey saving vote and nin is the scum? He made that monkey lynch possible :( Did it feel like scum wanted to bus Monkey? Wasn't there some tangible resistance? Rethink please *.*
Man, Fantomas conclusions are heartbreaking... Include is so townie with that failed monkey saving vote and nin is the scum? He made that monkey lynch possible :( Did it feel like scum wanted to bus Monkey? Wasn't there some tangible resistance? Rethink please *.*
This season really has to battle with replacements, huh. 8 replacements in TMBG and 5 in GoT... Season also took a while to get enough players, this is probably connected to the issue.
Late game aspects in both games are also troubling: Trigger should've been replaced/modkilled by now as well. This late a modkill is very influential and [in this case] could certainly help town, I can see why it's not done, another replacement would also be fucked up, a big unknown, changing the game yet again. It's a hard decision to make. And throwing Monkey into endgame to replace a replacement seems overkill as well.
I don't want to question the mods authority or their decisions here, I think we need to talk about how to handle these situations in general. Why did it come to this? Can we prevent it? Certainly people with mod experience should weigh in here more than me.
Did we not make it clear enough what people could expect? 2/5 and 3/5 of the new players subbed out. Is this a recurring problem? Why did the vets sub out? Was it all because of rl issues or something different?
//Maybe it's better to talk about this after the games, just some thoughts
Late game aspects in both games are also troubling: Trigger should've been replaced/modkilled by now as well. This late a modkill is very influential and [in this case] could certainly help town, I can see why it's not done, another replacement would also be fucked up, a big unknown, changing the game yet again. It's a hard decision to make. And throwing Monkey into endgame to replace a replacement seems overkill as well.
I don't want to question the mods authority or their decisions here, I think we need to talk about how to handle these situations in general. Why did it come to this? Can we prevent it? Certainly people with mod experience should weigh in here more than me.
Did we not make it clear enough what people could expect? 2/5 and 3/5 of the new players subbed out. Is this a recurring problem? Why did the vets sub out? Was it all because of rl issues or something different?
//Maybe it's better to talk about this after the games, just some thoughts
I'll be honest, because of the number of replacements, I feel bad for deciding to take a break this time around instead of signing up as a replacement for at least TMBG (as I don't want to be spoiled on the GoT series).
cabot
Why.
I would've modkilled apollo.
My stance is modkill late subs in the game. It can hurt either faction but in my opinion it's the better solution to having a new person in having to digest the game completely.
As for sign up issues, don't really know. Could've just been bad timing. Splinter and I discussed this, had some theories. One for the feedback thread I think
My stance is modkill late subs in the game. It can hurt either faction but in my opinion it's the better solution to having a new person in having to digest the game completely.
As for sign up issues, don't really know. Could've just been bad timing. Splinter and I discussed this, had some theories. One for the feedback thread I think
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
Yeah I think so too. Noone was even questioning her at that point
OceanicAir
4 8 15 16 23 42
I really hope FEPs doesn't override Trigger lol
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
I really don't want to keep bagging on feps but him staking his life on what will be a mislynch (presumably so that he can override to another mislynch) is kinda hilarious.
With all this talk over ET, I really hope they just lynch him first. Will they be able to see that he started as town?
With all this talk over ET, I really hope they just lynch him first. Will they be able to see that he started as town?
Yes, Kits was scum since being recruited N1
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
I think he wants to override Panda if Trigger flips town. It's why he's willing to stake his life over it. He's certain one of them must be scum, and thinks he'll be cleared after they flip.
rac
whatever
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Yep
and that will lose town the game. If I was scum, I kill kopite tonight. Fans can be used for fep lynch. Fep is so sure on scum on eco lynch, so leave him be.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Nvm, town seems to have talked it out, so should be easy win.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
This season started in late summer and during the start of school. That is a busy time for some people.
Franconp
Frank
It doesn't matter much what town think while FEP still has his shot.
And he is really wrong right now.
OceanicAir
4 8 15 16 23 42
Fanto nooooooooooooo!!!!!
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Regardless of the outcome, late-game town is doing a great job.
Franconp
Frank
He has no shoots left I think.