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Faddy
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Yeah. But I have no idea if this is town coolest or scum coolest.
Actually looking up his games. He was very weird in both scum games and definitely more solvy in Bill and Ted and Console Wars. He made reads in those town games where as when he was mafia he is just lolzy. So probably scum or a role that benefits being lynched.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Now where have I seen a similar read list like this one before...Stuart444 said:
You just beat me to it lol
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Without commenting on if the claim is real or not, I did use a "Scum Bomb" role in Anime Mafia the way Zeke describes it.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
If that Zeke claim is fake then I love it lol. He could make town so paranoid every day.
I'm not much of a KH fan so some of the references go over my head, but I do appreciate the amount of work you're putting into it, and I love that Nomura was scum lol.
Lmao
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Interesting flip. Nice flavour even if most of the references fly over my head...
Finalbeta is probably not with Brazil looking at the vote counts. Finalbeta is voting to make a 2nd viable wagon. And I would be surprised if both partners are inside Gryvan, Donna and Z-Beat. I think Z-beat has been the most town out of those 3.
Fandorin should die tonight (if he isn't mafia) or maybe they just shoot Stuart again.
Finalbeta is probably not with Brazil looking at the vote counts. Finalbeta is voting to make a 2nd viable wagon. And I would be surprised if both partners are inside Gryvan, Donna and Z-Beat. I think Z-beat has been the most town out of those 3.
Fandorin should die tonight (if he isn't mafia) or maybe they just shoot Stuart again.
why did I die ;-;?
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
You got killed by scum because they thought you were a cop.
This is a recurring problem ;-; Every time I get NK'd, it's because they think I have some awesome PR when I don't or at least not one that hurts scum.
Nicole must be bussing Final.
Reminds me of a certain Stu and Bear in Monopoly Mafia...
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
To be honest, your PR could have been potentially the strongest of the game. But that got negated completely due to... something else interfering as well. You'll see soon.
-blink-
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
For strength: claiming the role could have potentially cleared two players in a 13 player game, which is pretty huge.
why no role pm o.o huh...
o/ hello fantomas. I had fun while I was playing and now I get to sit and scream at silly actions with you guys ^_^
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I think Stu is still pissed at yesterday's stuff with Nicole :(
By my role was:
Mason, won't say who my mason buddy was
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Scum really got lucky hitting you with a janitor then
;_;... *shakes fist at scum team*
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Assuming Nicole is actually telling the truth. I did kind of call it.
Fake claiming cop is very risky if she is mafia because she should die in the next night.
Fake claiming cop is very risky if she is mafia because she should die in the next night.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
It has to be red. She doesn't make a big show of a green check especially when small games like this are notorious for mafia having an investigator immune role.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Withholding is kind of pointless lol, of course it's red.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Actually guess not if it's just a one shot, could go either way in that case.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I think there is some value in seeing reactions before the reveal
Oh coolest, forever typoing Stu's name. Never change
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
lol, guess there's the desperation gambit
Fanto
Confirmed Town
So, I really don't know what Nicole is waiting for. She thinks there might be a switcher in the game? Well, if that's the case, I'm pretty sure the switcher, if Town, will claim and prevent the mislynch, regardless of when she spills the beans, right? A Mafia/Neutral that can switch someone's alignment with someone else's isn't going to give it up if they are trying to frame Coolest right now, right?
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Town is incapable of turboing confirmed scum
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
all that for a green check...
If she survives the night phase, I'd agree with this.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Yes I am tilted by the green check because Nicole is talking about Zeke being fake if coolest isn't the bomber because the last Mafia is obviously a godfather. But now coolest is green why doesn't she think coolest is a godfather? Why is she making connections between Zeke's role and the scum team composition with a green check?
Her perspective through this day makes zero sense now. Other than her votes. Why vote elsewhere if coolest is red? It is weird as fuck. And here is the thing, the Mafia team know coolest' alignment so if she only has a green check on him it doesn't rattle anyone.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
(Assuming Nicole is telling the truth) I'm pretty much convinced at this point that Nicole got a green check on Fandorin on N1 and isn't telling anyone. It seems like she is utterly incapable of seeing him as Scum. Any time she brings him up it is to call him Town. She just did it again now by saying Natiko is the one who would have been bussing Final since D1, not Fandorin.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
If I'm Mafia I don't think I kill her. She only has 1 check claimed. They know if they blocked her night 1, if they didn't then she is either fake claiming as town or 1-shot because you never delay cop checks.
Faddy
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That is reasonable. To say night 1 Fandorin was green and Brazil is town from the votes in her mind but if that is the situation then why not say it. She has (almost confirmed) town Stuart calling her out.
Still what was the point of her godfather rants (which were sensible btw) if she is just going to believe a green check?
Faddy
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Actually i see Nicole's point now. She thinks there can't be a godfather if Zeke is telling the truth. So the Mafia team is bomb, roleblock, janitor. But like Mafia could have a joat and that bomb is a passive role that can be countered. And town don't know if was a janitor kill, it could have been part of Donna's role.
So her point is if Zeke is town then coolest is town but there are a few holes in her logic there.
So her point is if Zeke is town then coolest is town but there are a few holes in her logic there.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I would think Zeke would be a good NK target if the Mafia does have a Bomb, right? There's a pretty big chance they lose out on that extra kill since Zeke is apparently going to always vote last on the top train, so if he's telling the truth then he is fully prepared to stop the Bomber whenever they get lynched. The longer he sticks around, the higher the chance is that he gets to stop it.
Haven't looked at the spoiler for Donna's role yet, so idk if she was actually the better target or not, but man I would think Zeke has to die if they do have a bomb, right?
Haven't looked at the spoiler for Donna's role yet, so idk if she was actually the better target or not, but man I would think Zeke has to die if they do have a bomb, right?
Faddy
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Here is my galaxy brain take on the mafia team.
They have the fliipped roleblocker.
They have a 1-shot Janitor killer where they get the flip and town don't
They have a godfather lynch bomb.
That is a cool team because they have the blocker to deal with claimed PRs. They get the janitor info to give themselves better fake claims. The lynch bomb becomes nerfed if the godfather gets checked because that player should be the last mafia to die.
I still don't know what mafia are doing with their kills though. Stuart/Donna are not the night kill I expected.
They have the fliipped roleblocker.
They have a 1-shot Janitor killer where they get the flip and town don't
They have a godfather lynch bomb.
That is a cool team because they have the blocker to deal with claimed PRs. They get the janitor info to give themselves better fake claims. The lynch bomb becomes nerfed if the godfather gets checked because that player should be the last mafia to die.
I still don't know what mafia are doing with their kills though. Stuart/Donna are not the night kill I expected.
Faddy
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Not anymore. With the miss on Stuart a successful bomb doesn't mean town lose a lynch. They just need to make sure there aren't any more saves.
Might have been good since it'd stop me claiming but I played so badly that I don't know why they would go for me. Or why they thought I was a cop.
Stu I can understand, me is just odd
even if I was a cop, I didn't throw shade at many people so no breadcumbing targets or anything.
So yeah I still don't get it
Faddy
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I have looked at your role
If they have a role cop and knew you were a mason they need to stop 2 people being confirmed, it does make sense if they have a role cop. Or they are actively looking for kills with no narrative. You and Stuart arguably give the thread the least information
Side note: I hope one day me and stu are given the roles lovers together lol. Would be a fun game XD.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Ok, I looked at Donna's role too.
Had to go Google it quick haha, but yes, that is very interesting. So... I can't help but point out that it's pretty much what Coolest was describing, a town-only chat among other Masons, right? And it sounds like Donna only had one partner? So either Coolest was her partner and tried to breadcrumb in a hilarious way, or he's Scum and knew about the role being out there? The green check from Nicole (if I choose to believe it) would mean if he is scum then he's the godfather too. So the other would be a role cop in that world if they knew about the Masons, right?
Faddy
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more role spoilers
who is your partner lol. Wait I just saw it.
Extra spoilery
Extra spoilery
It is Fandorin
Fandorin said:
It isn't Fandorin but <3 Fandorin for saying that
Faddy
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I had another post as well from you on day 1. Where you say don't kill Brazil, Fadorin and Nicole. Then there is another one where you prod MrPliskin (Natiko)
I ruled out Nicole because of her cop claim, Natiko because he said he wanted to cop check you, Brazil because he literally hasn't mentioned you. And that Fandorin reply looked partnery.
There are other people who ruled themselves out
Stuart explicitly said he didn't know your alignment, plus his bp
Muffin calls you a neutral
You voted for Zeke twice
Coolest put you in his scum list
gryvan acts ike he doesn't know your alignment
You only mention z-beat once but the tone sort of fits.
So either it is Brazil or Z-beat. I'm leaning Z-beat though.
You really should clearly bread crumb a role like this. Even with the unflipped death your partner could still immediately claim and point out the crumbs. It would give town a confirmed person.There is little point hiding it because if scum put the work in they can probably find your partner just from reads and interactions.
If there is a later mass claim or pressure for your partner to give their role claiming Mason with you is going to be tough for town to believe imo. UNLESS I MISSED YOUR CRUMB
I ruled out Nicole because of her cop claim, Natiko because he said he wanted to cop check you, Brazil because he literally hasn't mentioned you. And that Fandorin reply looked partnery.
There are other people who ruled themselves out
Stuart explicitly said he didn't know your alignment, plus his bp
Muffin calls you a neutral
You voted for Zeke twice
Coolest put you in his scum list
gryvan acts ike he doesn't know your alignment
You only mention z-beat once but the tone sort of fits.
So either it is Brazil or Z-beat. I'm leaning Z-beat though.
You really should clearly bread crumb a role like this. Even with the unflipped death your partner could still immediately claim and point out the crumbs. It would give town a confirmed person.There is little point hiding it because if scum put the work in they can probably find your partner just from reads and interactions.
If there is a later mass claim or pressure for your partner to give their role claiming Mason with you is going to be tough for town to believe imo. UNLESS I MISSED YOUR CRUMB
I'm not great with breadcrumbing but I can say it's not someone you would expect. I feel like any breadcrumb would be too obvious for me. I'll try and work on this in future games though
Faddy
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That is the world Fandorin was pushing with his reads list too.
There is the issue where Mrpliskin voted for Finalbeta on day 1. And was still voting finalbeta when Nicole moved her vote fearing a tie. And Natiko basically sealed Finalbeta's fate with his vote. That is a lot of bussing.
Faddy
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I like this post by Natiko. I still think he is town here and I have historically been good at reading him. The act of him moving votes and pushing around the game is very much what I feel his town play is. If he is mafia here then I have been fooled.
What is also interesting is that Brazil is pushing this Natiko read mostly on vote logic. Fandorin has the exact same votes but is Brazil's top town. I don't really know how that works tbh.
Natiko said:
What is also interesting is that Brazil is pushing this Natiko read mostly on vote logic. Fandorin has the exact same votes but is Brazil's top town. I don't really know how that works tbh.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Hmmm. I really do feel like something is up with Fandorin. He is being widely town-read in the game... for what exactly? Nicole likes his votes on Final, and I've seen others say things vaguely about liking his play. Is he just like, really obvious as scum as far as a meta-read would go, or is there something I'm missing that is making him such a common town read?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
He just mentioned this in his last post as an afterthought, but yeah I hope he goes after this more.
Brazil said:
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
He blends really well as mafia. He has only played 2 games as mafia but was the last mafia player lynched in both iirc. Both times the game solved itself and thats why he was outed as mafia rather than him doing anything people read as scummy.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
The downside of not using Hecht rythm yeah. We'll see how it goes.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
No, his vote is counted to the votecount only after the day ends.
aww :( it'd be funny if he hammered lol
Welcome to spec
- Z-Beat hammer was dumb, town is dumb, what else is new
- Muffin is clearly scum
- Zeke got himself lynched yesterday playing his role dumb as hell, I'm going to tear him into after the game is over for that play
Is there actually a vig in this game? Is it Coolest XD?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Ah, hi Nicole! I was totally 100% sure you were Town the entire game btw. You on the Scum team? Never crossed my mind!
Anyways, I think Muffin is still my top suspect for today so I'm glad Stuart is still pushing for that. Will be interesting to see how hard people are pushing for the Zeke lynch though. I don't know if I would agree with it yet, it feels too easy.
Anyways, I think Muffin is still my top suspect for today so I'm glad Stuart is still pushing for that. Will be interesting to see how hard people are pushing for the Zeke lynch though. I don't know if I would agree with it yet, it feels too easy.
Faddy
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In Zeke's defense not only were five people already voting for Final but Brazil was scum reading of him too. Beyond just killing time was there any reason not to turbo? Was anyone else really going to be in consideration? And don't you think you could take some of the blame for that by stalling the day by not just outing your check immediately?
Are you at all worried about Coolest being a godfather?
No; I'm not worried about there being a godfather. Once I realized that Zeke was town, by process of elimination there was a bomber, so the roles are:
- Janitor
- Bomb
- Roleblocker
There was a strong reason not to turbo: they were losing a confirmed town player who was going to give out plenty of reads and such before the EOD, and it prevents Zeke from getting lynched if he just plays patient and waits things out. At the very least, you want to try and get as much information and reads from your confirmed players before you move on from that day.
My concern with the green check was giving out inaccurate information that scum could twist. If I had simply said CoolestSpot was town, it would have been easy for scum to fake a Swapper, and claim that the green check is actually for one of them (scum). The way the information happened CoolestSpot is 100% verified as town, and that was my intent. It wouldn't have been an issue if it didn't take Fandorian basically a full day to actually post in the thread. >.<
As for Muffin, Final showed the cards there. If Muffin is scum though, who do you think is his scum mate?
If there was a vig they would have shot already.