Spectator Thread Bunker 4352's Surveillance Room

I wonder how the game would have gone if you weren't dead.

(also Scum not killing Sorian or Faddy has helped them immensely obviously. If I was scum, I'd have kept them alive just because anyone could see this would happen when Melon flipped town)
Meh, probably not a whole lot better. This was always gonna happen. Scum did good with that red check and keeping the both of them alive to play against each other.
 
Meh, probably not a whole lot better. This was always gonna happen. Scum did good with that red check and keeping the both of them alive to play against each other.

I'd like to say maybe you could have talked some sense into them but with the way todays been...

Probably not.

And yeah, gotta hand it to scum. They are playing town like a fiddle right now.
 
I'd like to say maybe you could have talked some sense into them but with the way todays been...

Probably not.

And yeah, gotta hand it to scum. They are playing town like a fiddle right now.
Fanto learned a lot from GoT. We had a similar thing with Faddy and FEP over the course of a few days in that game, only in that game Faddy actually had the scent of scum. In this game neither seems to realize what's going on. Play the two big personalities against each other and everyone will forget everything else. This scum team is really taking advantage of the bastard nature of the game and everyone's personalities.
 

Franconp

Frank
LOL, I was torn about Ketkat and Vere funnily enough. Yay for me guessing the scum team (mostly) in a game I'm not even in? haha. I just chose them after looking at the player list and thinking about the last few days.

So is the Neutral:

Vere or Terra? Or is it LP?

If none of these, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Sorian because why the fuck not.

LP is the neutral. He has a bunch of items that don't work and has to give them away and they must be used. So far he only sent a Bulletproof. He tried to send an item to Geno the night he died and he was roleblocked the last 2 nights. I'm hoping he can send the gun at least tonight as I want someone to try to make a kill and fail.

Also it will be fun when LP flips and Fantomas realizes that his BP is completly useless.
 
LP is the neutral. He has a bunch of items that don't work and has to give them away and they must be used. So far he only sent a Bulletproof. He tried to send an item to Geno the night he died and he was roleblocked the last 2 nights. I'm hoping he can send the gun at least tonight as I want someone to try to make a kill and fail.

Also it will be fun when LP flips and Fantomas realizes that his BP is completly useless.
Oh my god, is there any way you can rig that to happen today? lol
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
As much shit as I'm giving Faddy and Sorian, I actually don't know if I would be doing anything different from what DCPat is doing right now
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Ain't no gif war I haven't already won brah.
Are you for real right now, bro?

You stole your gif game from me, Vee. You want to gif war we can. Any day. Anywhere.

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Also that time Fanto responded to every vote on him with a hella chole gif would be sufficient enough to vote him into oblivion.
 
LP is the neutral. He has a bunch of items that don't work and has to give them away and they must be used. So far he only sent a Bulletproof. He tried to send an item to Geno the night he died and he was roleblocked the last 2 nights. I'm hoping he can send the gun at least tonight as I want someone to try to make a kill and fail.

Also it will be fun when LP flips and Fantomas realizes that his BP is completly useless.

OMG this sounds amazing. Useless but amazing.
 
Town needs to intervene and get Sorian and Faddy apart. This is sooo hurtful atm. What does all this back and forth achieve? Someone should tell them they are creating noise and stop them.

Ah, and hindsight is very strong in this 3 way decision yesterday. Fantomas was up for a lynch the day before, has acted off this game and then comes with a red check. You could point in his direction of course, but in 90% the red checked person is lynched. Faddy and Sorian derailed, so everyone just defaulted to melon. Faddy coming up with a false red check is bullshit. That's just not going to happen. This makes his stance today even harder to understand.

Anyway, Fantomas was never the super obvious choice everyone has to see, give town some leeway here.

LP is sketchy. He's rolling his sassy attitude hard. With the jail, I bet he's scum.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Faddy isn't making sense now. Why is he relating Sorian to Melon false red check?

This should be simple for him: Melon flipped town and he knows he is town so the third party in that mislynch has to be scum.

How can Fantomas be town when he provided false info?

How could Sorian set up 3 mislynches when Melon, Fantomas and Faddy are all town and he has no control on any of the info?

Town is fucked.
Eh, there are other ways for a check to be wrong, and Sorian would just be making the most of the situation in front of him. Faddy is wrong about everything here, but it's not like it's impossible from his pov.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I no longer think the game is bastard.

We, the players, are the broken ones. Fran played meta and egos against us to create this madhouse.
 

Franconp

Frank
The game isn't that much bastard. A couple of roles and mechanics than don't work. But just using the word "bastard" in the description make the imagination run wild.

But I have to admit that when Splinter rolled lover I really wanted to rig the RNG and make both of you the lovers pair. That could have been so much fun.
 
malus looks like he's trying to set up a 1:1 trade with Fantomas and LP. As in, when Fantomas flips, he'll go for LP assuming Fantomas is the lynch today.
 

cabot

Why.
malus looks like he's trying to set up a 1:1 trade with Fantomas and LP. As in, when Fantomas flips, he'll go for LP assuming Fantomas is the lynch today.

dont really know how you can move on to L_P from a Fantomas scum flip.

Fantomas revealed he was given a bulletproof which L_P claimed. So scum!Fantomas gets a bulletproof boost item from buddy scum!L_P?


A scum item giver with boosts such as that is pretty broken. He'd be at least neutral or town in the flip of Fantomas.
 

cabot

Why.
The bigger scumtell on Fantomas is he had this bulletproof and didn't claim when there was a deathless night.


No way you'd not bring that up as Town.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I’m glad Faddy finally stopped the tunnel vision, but this is such a weird reason to finally snap out of it so it’s rubbing town the wrong way.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
It is weird I don't actually have many regrets. Lynching B-
I’m glad Faddy finally stopped the tunnel vision, but this is such a weird reason to finally snap out of it so it’s rubbing town the wrong way.

it is not actually a weird reason because I didn't know what happened to the check. But after Fantomas slips I 100% know what happened.
 
I'm almost worried they will either go after Sorian or LP tomorrow.

Get rid of Town Melon & Faddy -> Ignores the 3rd of the Trio involved in the Red check -> ???

We'll see tomorrow I guess
 

Franconp

Frank
It is weird I don't actually have many regrets. Lynching B-


it is not actually a weird reason because I didn't know what happened to the check. But after Fantomas slips I 100% know what happened.

There was no slip. Scum don't have a role cop. He just used the correct word by luck.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Scum kill..
Surely they just kill Poltergust tonight. I guess there is a case for Verelios.

What was the deal with the Lovers? Was I just talking nonsense there too?
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Scum kill..
Surely they just kill Poltergust tonight. I guess there is a case for Verelios.

What was the deal with the Lovers? Was I just talking nonsense there too?
If Poltergust had died, I'd've died with him. The role desceiption isn't actually a lie, just misleading

And scum are going to kill
Sorian, now that he's outlived his usefulness
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Oh I saw it is one way lovers. OK.

So does Terra actually do anything?
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I stand by what I said early in the phase. I don't think it would have mattered to people if Fantomas was lynched first. They were always lynching me next. Too many town were saying we could be together and fwiw it is absolutely true. We separate on Splinter then separate on each other. Better to do it sooner than later.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
I stand by what I said early in the phase. I don't think it would have mattered to people if Fantomas was lynched first. They were always lynching me next. Too many town were saying we could be together and fwiw it is absolutely true. We separate on Splinter then separate on each other. Better to do it sooner than later.
You're probably right. Scum inventing a fake check between themselves would be an unusual play, but not impossible

And Sorian was never gonna drop that tunnel on you
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Well, disagree on the "better sooner rather than later" bit. Get the lynch and then fight for re-evaluation.

But of course you were town reading Fanto at that point. That's the read that doomed you
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Well, disagree on the "better sooner rather than later" bit. Get the lynch and then fight for re-evaluation.

But of course you were town reading Fanto at that point. That's the read that doomed you

Eh. Maybe slight regret on that. The Sorian tunnel was so hard I got tilted. Like he was scum reading Fantomas before the check stuff and he couldn't have been any softer on his melon defense. All he did was push on me. I couldn't make sense of it. So I got paranoid of him.

Can someone roll Sorian Vanilla Town please. He has rolled it once and got lynched day 1 in Pixar and 1 sub where he died before he even posted to pad his 16% vanilla rolled stats. (2 mafia goons)
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I might leave Sorian alive tonight if I was scum just on the off chance that town might kill him tomorrow. I would probably go with a Ploter/Vere kill. Town really needs to actually kill scum tomorrow. That Melon play really screwed town up and town was already not doing so hot
 
It is weird I don't actually have many regrets. Lynching B-


it is not actually a weird reason because I didn't know what happened to the check. But after Fantomas slips I 100% know what happened.
Feel like something got cut off here lol

Eh. Maybe slight regret on that. The Sorian tunnel was so hard I got tilted. Like he was scum reading Fantomas before the check stuff and he couldn't have been any softer on his melon defense. All he did was push on me. I couldn't make sense of it. So I got paranoid of him.

Can someone roll Sorian Vanilla Town please. He has rolled it once and got lynched day 1 in Pixar and 1 sub where he died before he even posted to pad his 16% vanilla rolled stats. (2 mafia goons)
I get why it happened, scum did good to play you guys against each other like that.

I might leave Sorian alive tonight if I was scum just on the off chance that town might kill him tomorrow. I would probably go with a Ploter/Vere kill. Town really needs to actually kill scum tomorrow. That Melon play really screwed town up and town was already not doing so hot
I dunno, he's outlived his usefulness. He was scum reading Fanto, but after the last day phase town may have forgotten about that.
 

Franconp

Frank
Yes, with the boards silenced I don't think it would be too much a 48hs night phase.

Also I'm busy tomorrow and wouldn't be able to start the day.
 

Kalor

Kay-lor? Kah-lor?
Catching up on the game, I'm slightly glad I switched my block from the person who killed me because I don't know if I could have handled playing that. I was already done with the Faddy/Sorian/Fantomas trifecta the day before nevermind another day of it.
 
I now think it's more likely that Scum got some kind of info about his role, or a reason to suspect he had that role, and thus wanted to kill him. Or he could have just been another low-info target following the trend of Zipped and Blarg on D1 and D2.

This reads like he is saying LP was either killed or was tried to be killed on the deathless night but survived yet LP hasn't claimed BP, he has claimed to give someone an item (BP). so uhh...
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
In my mind, the true flavor of the game is the It's Sunny gang getting trapped in a bunker and one of them (Dennis) starts killing everyone.

Makes way too much sense.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Glad they killed me, I wouldn’t have been around until now anyway. I’ll admit that I’m annoyed at myself for flipping at some point from thinking Faddy was to be scum to wanting him to be scum. I quoted that post from Fantomas yesterday that made me think he was laying it on thick and should have flipped there.

I haven’t gone back yet, who else is it? L_P, nin? Malus? Vere?
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Glad they killed me, I wouldn’t have been around until now anyway. I’ll admit that I’m annoyed at myself for flipping at some point from thinking Faddy was to be scum to wanting him to be scum. I quoted that post from Fantomas yesterday that made me think he was laying it on thick and should have flipped there.

I haven’t gone back yet, who else is it? L_P, nin? Malus? Vere?

Fanto, Nin, Malus, and Ketkat. LP is neutral.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Polter said:
Sucks that an item failed to be handed out to me two nights ago, though. I wonder what happened with that.

I would've loved to get an item, just so I can have a taste of having an actually useful ability for once. :<

Lol
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Glad they killed me, I wouldn’t have been around until now anyway. I’ll admit that I’m annoyed at myself for flipping at some point from thinking Faddy was to be scum to wanting him to be scum. I quoted that post from Fantomas yesterday that made me think he was laying it on thick and should have flipped there.

I haven’t gone back yet, who else is it? L_P, nin? Malus? Vere?

I was annoyed you went for me so hard. But I think it was a losing battle and both me and Fanto were getting lynched in any order. At least my inevitable mislynch was before MYLO.

Feel like something got cut off here lol

B-Dubs I had typed something nice about you but it seems to have gotten eaten. Shouldn't have lynch you and though you were do
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I was annoyed you went for me so hard. But I think it was a losing battle and both me and Fanto were getting lynched in any order. At least my inevitable mislynch was before MYLO.



B-Dubs I had typed something nice about you but it seems to have gotten eaten. Shouldn't have lynch you and though you were do

You said the bolded a lot. Why do you think you still get lynched if Fanto flips scum before you? That would have 100% cleared you for me and I said that a few times. I was just gambling to try and minimize the number of mislynches this required (lol)
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I love all this bomb speculation

It’s a waste of time, whether the bomb was real or not, all they have to do is all go to the same room and that’s that. If someone stays in the quarters, that’s there problem, if someone goes to the non chosen room then that’s an issue.

Otherwise move on and play mafia lol
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
It’s a waste of time, whether the bomb was real or not, all they have to do is all go to the same room and that’s that. If someone stays in the quarters, that’s there problem, if someone goes to the non chosen room then that’s an issue.

Otherwise move on and play mafia lol

That's why it's amazing. It's just this giant pointless derail for no reason.

The discussion should be "Hey, everyone move to the dining room." and that's literally it.
 
It’s a waste of time, whether the bomb was real or not, all they have to do is all go to the same room and that’s that. If someone stays in the quarters, that’s there problem, if someone goes to the non chosen room then that’s an issue.

Otherwise move on and play mafia lol
About the rooms...

Well, they probably don't realize it yet. But still, this should be an easy day that's being made far more complicated.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
You said the bolded a lot. Why do you think you still get lynched if Fanto flips scum before you? That would have 100% cleared you for me and I said that a few times. I was just gambling to try and minimize the number of mislynches this required (lol)

You were literally the only person who said we weren't w/w.

Some of the remaining mafia would push that we were teammates, Vere pushed that and there were a couple of others. There really wasn't a lot I could do to refute it. We were hard aligned and then it is all WIFOM. The strongest argument is that we would be going 1 for 2 on melon but then people can spin that as 1 for 1 with a lock cleared mafia. High risk, high reward.

There was much more evidence that I wasn't with Splinter than I wasn't with Fantomas.

Maybe the mafia team make a mistake and kill me but I think they had you to deal with first. Then Poltergust and probably Vere to lynch first. So it wasn't like that was going to happen any time soon.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
It's wild to me that they still haven't killed Poltergust.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
If I ever get to a point where I try to run my own game I'm going to make some stupid bastard nonsense with a bunch of roles that are activated by someone replacing out.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Nin might of been tricky for town to catch late game if he played this right, but he’s done some weird shit during this day phase.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
HELLO!!!!!

FIRST OF ALL I APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY TO FADDY!!! I LOVE YOU, PLEASE DON'T HATE ME!!!!!!

Going to catch up on this thread now and then I will join you all.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ok, first some catching up.

and 1 neutral
LP!!!!!!! *shakes fist*
<3


Yes, I deserved it.

You happy now Splints?

Red checks hurt.

latest
I am half sorry. And for the record, Splinter is the one who ok'd my idea to put it on you in Scum Chat. You will see that I explicitly said I had never thought to do it to you because it would be too mean. But then you started scum reading me, and Splinter said it was ok, so I did it.

How did your own medicine taste though? <3
Also that time Fanto responded to every vote on him with a hella chole gif would be sufficient enough to vote him into oblivion.
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I love all this bomb speculation
I said that same exact thing in Scum Chat around this same time I think lol.

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Now, with that all out of the way, my thoughts:

1. I am terrible at playing Scum. Note to future gamerunners, just roll again if I hit Scum please. No thank you, I'd like to just be friendly Town Fantomas from now on, thanks!
2. Well done to everyone who figured me out on D1/D2. B-Dubs especially, you knew who the Scum was on you. You knew I would never, ever, have voted for you on D1, and I never will again! I loved playing with you in GoT, hence why I needed you to die ASAP because you would know I was Scum!! <3
3. I did not meltdown a single time in Scum Chat. Not once. You may hear Scum players say otherwise, you may read things in there that would lead you to believe otherwise, but just know that I never melted down. Not in the game thread either. Not once.
4. As for my role, I have 0 regrets about the way I used it. Go ahead, tell me how I should have used it, tell me who I should have sent the check to, and that I shouldn't have put it on Melon, I don't care. You didn't have the role, I did, and I just got to do some hilarious shit with it.
5. Thank god that Fran was lying about the spec chat shit, because I would have exploded if I couldn't talk to people about all this.

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And then my final apologies list:

Half-Apology to Melon.
Near-Full Apologies to everyone we Scum Killed because at the end of the day I was ok with killing you and that's mean. That would be: Zipped, Blarg, Kalor, and Sorian.
Full Apologies to B-Dubs and Faddy.

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Now, I am here to answer any questions about what the fuck we were thinking about in Scum Chat, and why we killed who we did, etc. Also, go ahead and lob all of your criticisms at me, about why I suck as Scum, about how obviously fake I was all game, I can take it, I'm already well aware of it.

I am also here to root for my remaining Scum Team members! Wooooo! We got this!!!!
 

Franconp

Frank
I don't know if you saw this:

LP is the neutral. He has a bunch of items that don't work and has to give them away and they must be used. So far he only sent a Bulletproof. He tried to send an item to Geno the night he died and he was roleblocked the last 2 nights. I'm hoping he can send the gun at least tonight as I want someone to try to make a kill and fail.

Also it will be fun when LP flips and Fantomas realizes that his BP is completly useless.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I don't know if you saw this:
Oh, I saw it lol.

First of all, god dammit lol, that was supposed to be my last laugh to the townie who gave me that! Second, townest thing I did was scum read LP! Ha! Third, do all of his items have to be used for him to win? Does that mean he can't get that win condition now? Is he a neutral survivor otherwise?
 

Franconp

Frank
He still can win. Coolest is using his roleblock tonight and if he sends one item tonight and another tomorrow he could win by night 8. The BP was self use.

If someone with an item dies and still haven't used it the item is returned to LP to try again.

And if the game ends and he still have unused items he loses.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
He still can win. Coolest is using his roleblock tonight and if he sends one item tonight and another tomorrow he could win by night 8. The BP was self use.

If someone with an item dies and still haven't used it the item is returned to LP to try again.

And if the game ends and he still have unused items he loses.
Ok, that makes sense yeah. I suppose it depends on if people go back to him or not then. God I hope his scummy ass weird role doesn't get a pass lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also, for the record, Fran didn't give us fake role claims lol. Well, he did, but they were a bunch of Mafia roles or things like Town Hooker.

So what I'm saying is: I thought up that Amnesiac Cop bullshit all on my own and y'all fuckin bought it.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Also, for the record, Fran didn't give us fake role claims lol. Well, he did, but they were a bunch of Mafia roles or things like Town Hooker.

So what I'm saying is: I thought up that Amnesiac Cop bullshit all on my own and y'all fuckin bought it.

I did call it out. But you played really well imo.

I stand by my "super impressed" comment. I hope to roll mafia one day and be half as good.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I did call it out. But you played really well imo.

I stand by my "super impressed" comment. I hope to roll mafia one day and be half as good.
Yeah, you called it on D4 almost right away lol everyone else was like "Yeah, sounds good."

And UGH! I'm so sorry I did you like that lol, watching Sorian turn on you so hard was painful. And I hated having to vote for you there, but honestly, the "Silence" thing was so silly, I couldn't help myself lol.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Full Apologies to B-Dubs and Faddy.

Absolutely nothing to apologize for. In fact your play might be the some of the most successful mafia gambits for a while. Most of the time it ends up with mafia sitting back and just hoping town eats itself. You made us screw ourselves.

When was the last time in any game have the scummies actively done anything? It is few and far between. Part of the reason I believed you were town over melon despite my scepticism.
 
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