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Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I could see either Melon or nin dying today. Whoever made it through that will probably die the next day. Hopefully town can move on after that and not do something fucking dumb like lynch Swamped, but I feel like it's almost a shot in the dark if they decide to go after Malus, DC, Z-Beat, or AB after that.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
From what I can recall from recent games I believe Stuart was lynched as Town after claiming Doctor, and Nin was granted a pass as Scum after claiming (Neutral) Tracker.
So in other words, who fucking knows.
Zeke always moves to his own beat hahaha...
and yes, Town consistently forgets dead players reads. Hell, if I was dead, I doubt anyone would have brought up Bear's reads.
I said it outright in the thread for a reason. This is just proving me right.
Yeah, that game as Chuggs will recall:
Vere tracked me to a dead player thanks to some switcher fuckery that Scum did to me. (I never targeted the dead player)
So I was totally fucked even with my claim haha.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Ah yeah, that's right. So I suppose that had some abnormal circumstances going on around the claim too haha.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah, it was insane. The amount of things that had to of happened for that scenario to take place was nuts.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
They're completely aimless right now. They also really shoudn't be
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
Gorlak seems to be trying to solve the game, alongside Swamped. Nobody else seems to be tho.
THANK YOU GORLAK
Not every 'slip' is scum. -_- remember Kalor and his 'slip' and he was town. urgh...
I made a case, it was weak though and needed backing from flips to reinforce it.
But nice trying there DC.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Swamped is good at this game. I’m glad Gorlak called out Zeke on making noise because he’s been doing that all game.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Town hasn't had a good track record of votes. Even with 3 dead scum it's easy to muddy the waters based on who voted where.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
So it's not that hard to have doubts.
He'll never admit it though :P
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
If he gets rid of Gorlak and Swamped I think he could, but as long as they’re still around I think town still has this
If Swamped and Gorlak gets taken out, yeah pretty much.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I just think it's amazing how little heat that Pat has been catching since Stu died. Now that he got lucky and Chugg got killed by the Turmoil Vengeance kill, and then he takes out GP who also wanted him dead, now he just gets to blend in. And honestly, he is doing an amazing job today of fake scum hunting. There are 11 people left in the this game, but most people's scum lists have like 5-6. So literally half the game is still Scum players as far as this Town is concerned. That is so easy for DCPat to blend in with, and he's doing great, I love it.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Lol yeahhhh those are the only two that are on anything resembling the right track. If I was scum I think I would go Swamped first because I feel like she’s going to figure him out sooner then later, and then try to push through one of Gorlaks other reads the next day before killing him. Then just let the rest of town wander around lost for the rest of the game
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
@Stuart444 is this as frustrating for you as it is for me? We had this shit won
It's been frustrating since I died haha.
DCPat is doing a good job of letting town destroy itself now though so fair play to him.
Maybe true but if DCPat kills the right town members and helps stir the fire against others (like literally keep Zeke and use his tunnels to your advantage), he has a chance.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Nin, Melon, Z-Beat, Malus, Absolutbro, Zeke. All of them seem scummier than DCPat to me right now. I could see all of them being lynched while DCPat just sits aside and scum reads a few of them.
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I agree with natiko on dcpat having bad odds, as players die all the paths will lead to him and there are still town PRs out there.
I think his best chance would be to have both Zeke and Melon alive on the last days phases, and to not kill Alexem to not make a vote analysis against him too evident, but then, who does he kill knowing that Swamp will likely be self healing each other night?
I think his best chance would be to have both Zeke and Melon alive on the last days phases, and to not kill Alexem to not make a vote analysis against him too evident, but then, who does he kill knowing that Swamp will likely be self healing each other night?
If I was Gorlak/Swamped, I'd be annoyed at this quote.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I think the comparison from Zeke is off there because it happened to us on N1. There was no knowledge within the thread yet about this PR for one, and of course there was a lot to talk about following a scum flip on D1 in a game with over 20 players.
In other words, I'm pretty sure that if I were still alive, and me and Zeke had this chat now, our conversation would have been completely different than it was.
In other words, I'm pretty sure that if I were still alive, and me and Zeke had this chat now, our conversation would have been completely different than it was.
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
It's 10-1. The last scum is always the hardest to find but when it gets to 5 left or so it'll become a lot clearer (maybe).
Fanto
Confirmed Town
My dream outcome: Zeke + Melon + DCPat for the final three. DC thinks it will be an easy win, and that there's no way Melon and Zeke stop scum reading each other now. But instead, in a shocking twist, they decide to quit going at each other and vote for DCPat, with Melon casting the first vote in order to graciously allow Zeke to cast the hammer vote.
Thanks for reading my fanfiction.
Thanks for reading my fanfiction.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I do not see a situation where Melon makes it to the final 3 lol
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
See, this is why town needs Gorlak
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Mislynch Melon, kill Gorlak. Mislynch nin, kill Swamped. Mislynch Malus, kill gir. Mislynch AB, kill Z-Beat. This would leave DC alone with just Zeke and Alex which would be probably the worst case scenario besides leaving Zeke with Melon.
I think he could pull it off if he gets rid of Gorlak and Swamped. The rest of town is just too passive aside from Zeke who is just making noise
I think he could pull it off if he gets rid of Gorlak and Swamped. The rest of town is just too passive aside from Zeke who is just making noise
Giant Panda
Eats, shoots, and leaves
DCPat is the last scum? Town came pretty close to winning it yesterday...
Giant Panda
Eats, shoots, and leaves
I really hope no one falls for a Malus lynch. He's quiet but has a pretty good voting record.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I would hope not too, but a lot of town is really aimless right now.
Hahaha, this made me laugh.
Gorlak is doing good work though.
Zeke is freaking stubborn. Nothing Gorlak says about him is wrong. Even during my tunnels, I'd still at least try to help town, question people, see if there is anything amiss.
Zeke just goes after one person and then calls out almost everyone for everything it feels like. And then goes all "HAMMER TIME".
It IS a lot of noise.
Huh...
CS did move n1, it was talked about earlier but would he not be shown to move because the thief took the protect?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah, that AB post might of helped a lot. Guess we’ll see
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Oh no town, don’t waste time lynching AB.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Even if they lynch him it will just confirm his results. DCPat will get increasingly less room to move. If town doesn't lynch AB today then DCPat is completely doomed as he'll have to prioritize AB and Swamped for kills, which leaves Gorlak alive longer and eventually he'll get there and drag town to the finish line.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
“Gorlak can be even more annoying then stu”
Nin deserves to lose with that post
Nin deserves to lose with that post
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
It’s that on top of him talking about the only person who is even close to the right track. Just what the hell, dude
If it wasn't for the fact that I've seen Scum Nin before and he isn't like this, I'd think Nin was scum in this game.
Going after 'coasters' only. It's such a scum move, especially when he's coasting as well.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I wonder if DCPat still plans to claim his matchmake ability. I think that would be the wrong choice, but I don't think it'll have much of an impact on the game. Only way it works is if they hold on mass claiming until very late (like three day phases from this one).
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah, if I didn’t just come off of a game with scum nin, I would of scum read him a lot harder. That’s basically the reason I was trying so hard to push his lynch after DC and Turmoil
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Swamped knows who CS targeted right? That’s probably why she’s scum reading him if she knows he moved that night
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Swamped should realize that the info is left out because he suspects she is the doctor. Her follow-up scumreads don't even make sense. If AB is scum and fake claiming then where is the counter claim? They know there has to be a movement tracker/watcher of some sort based on the other flips. Furthermore, how can she turn around and not think any of the faked "didn't move" targets are scum as well then? Only way it would make sense is if she thinks scum has a role cop.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
There’s an alternate universe somewhere where Turmoil role claimed before he lynched and I got him to switch to DC with the argument that town would lynch me anyway if they both filpped town
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I know, but what if! We could of ended the game days ago and avoided watching town stumbling around for a couple of weeks
I'm convinced Scum would have won if I didn't start pushing Faddy when I did.
I just am.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Honestly, probably. We were pretty lost for a bit there. My takeaway from watching KH mafia was “If you’re in a game with Stuart and he seems to be town, just do what Stuart says” and I think it’s kind of hilarious that it was a strategy that paid off
Haha, be careful with that. I mean I've only been scum once and failed horribly in my role.
I have learned a lot since then so next time I'm scum... well you never know :P
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah, if you’re scum the whole thing is pretty fucked, but I was like 90% sure you were right so I just went for it. Also, this might make it harder for you if you are scum because I’m going to start taking mislynches from you as a scum tell lmao
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I think we’re witnessing ABs redemption arc after TMBG
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Just got caught up, I still see DCPat winning this. Gorlak almost was able to get the conversation going there, but then he got frustrated, and in his frustrated absence, Swamped came back and started town-reading DCPat for the reasons that everyone should be scum-reading him. Perfect. Now they can all forget about him once more and start lynching all those scummy players like Nin, Melon, Z-Beat, Absolutbro, and Malus.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I dunno. This AB thing could turn it around. If they can hold off on lynching him and actually use that list he has, it's going to be a big help. Not to mention that this makes things harder for DC during the night phase. Swamped can protect AB which would give him another read, and AB can keep knocking people off that list. And even if she doesn't, that gives Gorlak and Swamped another day to figure this all out
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I mean, or they could all lynch AB I guess, but at least that'll confirm his list.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I do think that them going after that vote for me so hard is a weird play. I remember thinking when that happened that AB backed down from that weirdly easily.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Maybe I was just skimming too much, but I don't see how the AB claim gives them anything to point to DC? If anything, people will disregard it until they see AB's flip because they think he is Scum, then when they see he was Town, they'll forget about it because he's dead now and dead players and their thoughts/reads/info are supposed to be forgotten and left behind.
cabot
Why.
The Thief blocked Coolest N1.
cabot
Why.
melonrabbit.
Admittedly I think the way she's played, it would be very difficult for melon to avoid a lynch from claiming.
Admittedly I think the way she's played, it would be very difficult for melon to avoid a lynch from claiming.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, if I were still in the game, I don't think there's anything Melon could say to keep me from scum reading and voting for her. She would easily be my top scum read at this point.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Scum would've won if they had a bigger team and more abilities, and if there was a secondary killing role.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Such a pessimist lol It provides more info that can help dissuade town from making some mislynches. If AB is lynched today, that confirms his info and further boxes in DCPat to a smaller list of players that he has to get a whole lot of mislynches from. DCPat will also have an additional PR that can cause some big complications if not removed soon. DCPat will not win this.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
It's always cabot's fault.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
In the form of... knowledge that on one night, a player didn't move? That makes them unlynchable? I moved on a grand total of one night as Scum.
cabot
Why.
you're the worst.
I'll admit there should have been a second KP, though both sides had fairly weak Powers and the number of scum was alright, probably one more in the event of a SK.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I don’t think I’ve ever seen DC this active. AB has him sweating
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
You also didn't live as many nights as this game would have to go in order for DCPat to win. AB has results from when the scum team was already significantly trimmed down. You can't have NKs coming from people that aren't moving when you've already found the scum ninja. If town doesn't lynch AB then this situation goes from bad to horrible for DCPat as well given he has to dodge being tracked and avoid being blocked by Swamped. Even if AB does not track DCPat he will reveal additional tracks on other players which, again, limits the candidates.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah, town are going to lynch AB lmao
;-; don't make swamped claim gorlaaaak