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cabot

cabot

Why.
melon can do her best here to spare Swamped claiming and maybe save AB, which is kinda more valuable.

She has a protect, but no thief shots left. Overall, keeping a Doctor/Tracker from being lynched by giving the info she has from N1 is better than anything else
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
"Obviously the real tracker isn't claiming because Swamped already debunked AB" -> I want dcpat to say that lol
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Gorlak said:
So two scenarios

1) AB is lying.

2) Swamped is lying.
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Or maybe

3) They are both telling the truth, but there is additional information that we do not yet have.
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
TheChuggernaut said:
AB is fucked
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Maybe not, the roleblocker scenario does check out. Swamped won't be able to confirm whether her ability did anything N1 or not because they weren't the kill target, I was. Since they have the LP flip, they could assume CS was blocked N1 by Scum and not even need Melon's additional info to clear that check as being legit.
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, I would love to hear Gorlak's explanation of what Zeke's Neutral win condition is as the chat creator lol.
 
Stuart444

Stuart444

Fantomas said:
Or maybe

3) They are both telling the truth, but there is additional information that we do not yet have.
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Again, memories of TMBG mafia.

1. I was lying (I wasn't)

2. Vere was lying (he wasn't)

eventually, we found option 3: Scum fuckery.

though this isn't scum fuckery, here it's still fuckery lol.
 
Stuart444

Stuart444

Neutral Chat Creator:

Win Con: Make 50+% of the day's conversation be about the chat by D6

Failure to do so will result in your death.
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, nevermind. Swamped agrees she could have been roleblocked, but still wants to lynch AB lol.
 
Natiko

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If Melon would show up and even partially claims it's possible town might realize they're about to make a dumb mistake. Oh well, I stand by what I've said previously - there's no way DCPat pulls this off.
 
Natiko

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@EzekelRAGE - when you read this I want you to go back and read Day 6 again. Tell me what you accomplished. I'm not trying to be an ass, but your approach this phase doesn't make sense. You have all this info out there between Gorlak, Swamped, and AB. If you don't believe them (which you clearly signal as you have tried to cast doubt on damn near everything any one of them have said) then why are you following it up with "but I'm going to ignore it all and blindly vote Melon still, this person I'm tunneling on even though I know tunneling is one of my poor tendencies that has backfired plenty of times the last few games I played"?

I feel like you need to not let tunnels override everything else you do in the game. You also need to try and adapt your playstyle to look not just for reason to scum read a player - find reasons to town read them. You spend a large amount of time spreading doubt and scumreads about more people than can possibly be scum than anything else. If I was in this game I would be utterly convinced you're scum purely due to your mindset.
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Natiko said:
to look not just for reason to scum read a player - find reasons to town read them.
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This is good advice for everyone honestly. It's becoming one of my pet peeves now watching this game. They have killed 3 Scum, and 1 Neutral is also dead. Why are they putting anywhere between 4-6 people in a lynch pool right now? They are not all Scum, they need to go and find reasons to Town read some of them over the others. I would be putting 1-2 at the max as "these are my top scum reads, I want this one dead today (place vote), this one tomorrow if today's flips Town."

Unless I'm just wrong on that, and people should be scum reading half the room with 3 Scum and 1 Neutral dead on D6. But that doesn't make sense to me, the numbers don't add up to be trying to lay out that many scum reads still.
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Zeke said:
so another pr claim?
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Zeke said:
this game
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Natiko

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Gorlak is getting there now. He's on the right track, even if he does convince himself Melon is neutral.
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Gorlak said:
You and her make no sense on the same team.
Her and LP make no sense on the same team.

-> either you are scum tracker or she's neutral thief
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OR MAYBE THEY ARE BOTH TOWN!!!!!!

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Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I can actually see where this neutral theory is coming from with Melon. Melon being a neutral trying to get a win con done makes a hell of a lot more sense then neutral match maker
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
TheChuggernaut said:
I can actually see where this neutral theory is coming from with Melon. Melon being a neutral trying to get a win con done makes a hell of a lot more sense then neutral match maker
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Yeah, I mean a Neutral Thief who has to use a certain amount of powers that they steal in order to win makes perfect sense. It's basically exactly like the Neutral Assassin was in GoT, but with a roleblock to steal the power instead of a kill.

The problem is, why would Neutral Melon give a shit about a mislynch? She would just be trying to survive long enough to get her win, she would have no reason to bring her info forward, she could have just kept on coasting.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Fantomas said:
Yeah, I mean a Neutral Thief who has to use a certain amount of powers that they steal in order to win makes perfect sense. It's basically exactly like the Neutral Assassin was in GoT, but with a roleblock to steal the power instead of a kill.

The problem is, why would Neutral Melon give a shit about a mislynch? She would just be trying to survive long enough to get her win, she would have no reason to bring her info forward, she could have just kept on coasting.
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Yeah, it's not perfect, but I can see how they got there.

Okay DC is being scummy as fuck, and they're just letting him chill there. Are they seriously not going to try for another wagon?
 
Stuart444

Stuart444

TheChuggernaut said:
Okay DC is being scummy as fuck, and they're just letting him chill there. Are they seriously not going to try for another wagon?
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It's frustrating considering how town jumped over every little thing (Hello Z-Beat 'slip') but now, are ignoring things like this. hahaha x.x
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Stuart444 said:
It's frustrating considering how town jumped over every little thing (Hello Z-Beat 'slip') but now, are ignoring things like this. hahaha x.x
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The best part is they keep calling him out on it. Like AB and Gorlak have both been all "DC is being weird." and then they just don't vote lmao
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Stuart444 said:
I would say hopefully DC kills Zeke or Melon (ideally Zeke) but I'm guessing Gorlak's dead. Or Swamped.
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Yeah, he's not killing either of those two. It's probably Swamped or Gorlak. Hopefully Melon or Swamped saves Gorlak.

a nin mislynch won't kill town. He wasn't exactly helping much either way
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Hopefully tracker AB can clear someone else tomorrow. Moving through all the coasters to get to DC is going to be a fucking pain
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Absolutbro said:
he was, yes. there were likely only two scum alive and there was no chat so the gossip could have submitted the kill, but I think that makes it likely nin is town
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What a wonderful 2 minutes before EoD post when Nin is about to be lynched lol.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Like the least you can do is fucking info lynch and you go with the lynch that AB has already figured out is likely town? At least Z-Beat would of narrowed down the choices
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Stuart444 said:
Considering how hard I had to fight to get scum lynched. Town has enjoyed walking away from scum this game. Only voting to shut me up haha.
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I am honestly amazed how resistant people are to voting with their town reads in this game. It's an easy strategy, it's a lesson I learned in my first game when we lynched Dr. Monkey. The people voting for her were my biggest town reads, and the people voting elsewhere seemed quite scummy to me. So I voted Dr. Monkey at the last second and of course, she was Scum.
 
Natiko

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
cabot said:
i feel ezekel is now just trolling.
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Yeah I really can’t reconcile the conclusions he’s coming to with someone that’s putting rational thought into it. If Melon is scum why does she claim in that situation? What purpose would it serve as scum to help validate two Town PRs? If he instead is insinuating there’s two scum in that group then where are all the town PRs At then to counter this five person scum team with multiple fake claims out there? It doesn’t make any sense lol
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Instead people are like, idk guys, DCPat seems scummy, but I'm going to vote with him.

Great choice!
 
Verelios

Verelios

Were-elios
Jesus, that was a train wreck in motion. Someome (Gor) needs to just say fuck it and take town by the wheels. They WILL listen if you keep on smashing post after post at them but if you're just making sporadic 'you're scum' posts then no ones going to care.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Verelios said:
Jesus, that was a train wreck in motion. Someome (Gor) needs to just say fuck it and take town by the wheels. They WILL listen if you keep on smashing post after post at them but if you're just making sporadic 'you're scum' posts then no ones going to care.
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That’s one thing I learned from watching and playing these past couple of games, you have to be fucking aggressive if you want someone lynched and if you can’t do that, you have to hope someone else is. Being passive doesn’t work in this game, and it’s going to be real hard to get DC if no one really steps up. Gorlak is the closest they have right now.
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I hope Gir's replacement is just a fucking rockstar. Like they just bust down the door on D7 and vote for DCPat right away lol.
 
Verelios

Verelios

Were-elios
Stuart444 said:
I can vouch for this

*nod nod*
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TheChuggernaut said:
That’s one thing I learned from watching and playing these past couple of games, you have to be fucking aggressive if you want someone lynched and if you can’t do that, you have to hope someone else is. Being passive doesn’t work in this game, and it’s going to be real hard to get DC if no one really steps up. Gorlak is the closest they have right now.
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You guys almost had it. It's too bad town is habitually coasters.
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
They just need to look at all of the info and reassess, at this point it should all point to DCPat. The problem is, I don't think there's many people left alive who would go and do that.

I'm honestly just placing my hopes in AB to Track DCPat tonight.
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Get well alexem!

Feels like there is no path to victory left for dcpat anymore, if there was one at all, myslinching AB would had been a stroke of luck for him
 
cabot

cabot

Why.
Brazil is subbing in.

Town have some solid players now, should all but confirm dcpats journey is doomed to fail.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Yeah, this is probably over. Between the AB and Melon posts I think a Gorlak/Brazil/Swamped town team can figure this out
 
Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, hopefully Brazil is ready to make my wish come true then:
Fantomas said:
I hope Gir's replacement is just a fucking rockstar. Like they just bust down the door on D7 and vote for DCPat right away lol.
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I'm counting on him lol.
 
Natiko

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
cabot said:
Currently there will be no kill, and ab is targeting z-beat
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Had a feeling that would happen when I saw the selection.

How's everyone feeling? Still panicking thinking DCPat is going to somehow get all those mislynches? lol
 
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