Might also be worth it for the review thread. Make it more consistent across future games? Since I think the standard is, lose access to the chat.
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Might also be worth it for the review thread. Make it more consistent across future games? Since I think the standard is, lose access to the chat.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Ok yeah, that makes sense. Because I think at the time that Zeke asked you that, we were talking about saving each others lists in case the other died so we could share them. When you said it was ok to post our own, but we had to paraphrase the other, I think we both took that as you approving of our plan but telling us not to copy/paste them directly in the thread. But that obviously wasn't what you intended with that answer, so yeah, that was just some miscommunication I think. My bad.
cabot
Why.
Disagree with Stuart there, lynching coolest gets rid of potential noise and they're in an alright position to do it.
We've did the 'wait for the review thread' before, it's a nothing point. Frankly, what Coolest has done so far is acceptable from a legality of play perspective (minus the gif spam), so a review thread won't clarify anything.
It's the same as the fake red check stuff in previous games, there's nothing to add as a rule there because its a valid play. It's just a valid play that a lot of people don't like. So you deal with that through policy lynch.
We've did the 'wait for the review thread' before, it's a nothing point. Frankly, what Coolest has done so far is acceptable from a legality of play perspective (minus the gif spam), so a review thread won't clarify anything.
It's the same as the fake red check stuff in previous games, there's nothing to add as a rule there because its a valid play. It's just a valid play that a lot of people don't like. So you deal with that through policy lynch.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, I’m about over everyone using kid gloves when it comes to people that join games just to shit them up. How many post-game talks have people had with Coolest where he apologizes and says next time he’s going to do better just for another game to start and he shows up to take a dump on it? Policy lynch people that spend more time trolling the games than playing them. Eventually they’ll either change or stop playing.
I umm, don't know? I didn't know there had been any. Other than maybe Marvel.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
SweetNicole tore into him pretty good after Kingdom Hearts if I remember right.
Oh yeaaaah. She also gave quite a few good advice tbh.
I will say @CoolestSpot for whenever you reach here, please no more fake gambits and claims. I mean I hate being mean to people ^^;; but if we see another one and someone wants to policy lynch for it, I won't say no to that.
to clarify, I mean the type of claims you've done like in this game where you claim and then take it back a few hours later. And then claim a note and none of us are sure what to believe.
If you're scum, fake claims are fine, just not the type you've done as town. Where you claim and take it back over and over.
If that makes sense ^^;
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
If you're gonna go crazy with the goofiness and the silliness and the gambits and stuff, at least take a page out of Blarg's book and make it meaningful.
Blarg might be utterly crazy, but there's a method to his madness that isn't merely random.
Blarg might be utterly crazy, but there's a method to his madness that isn't merely random.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, this is why I never liked when people compared CS to Blarg. From my experience with Blarg, he is a very good player regardless of alignment.
When he was Scum and I was Town, I never really wanted to lynch him until it started becoming obvious that he was lying. When I was Scum and he was Town, we wanted to kill him right away because we knew he was smart, looking at the game from a different point of view as everyone else, and probably up to something. Turned out he was a cop.
For CS? I've only ever seen him as Town and I've always been fine with people wanting to lynch him. That's not good.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, fake claims, gambits, oddness can all be acceptable if you are able to get results from them. I get that plenty of people play these games for fun and don’t care a ton about the results, but if your strategy leads to you consistently being a detriment to your team and you consistently see people getting genuinely frustrated by it maybe you should reevaluate.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Well, looks like we got our wish and he finally explained himself in the game thread lol.
Gorlak said:
ow Gorlak.
I think everyone in here felt that.
Hey Fanto,
even if they get Faddy, do you think they will get the others with the way it's going?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I'm not sure, I think there's a chance though. As long as no one gives LP a pass for the scum reads on Sophia, which it doesn't seem like anyone wants to, then I could see him going down. DCPat is tougher to justify right now I think. Faddy is the one they need to go for first though I think.
It depends though, I hope they see the light, but I could see them going for a lot of mislynches before they get everyone. Alexem, CS, Absolutbro, Z-Beat are all lynchable in my book. Then Zeke has his connection with me, Melon can be scumread easily. So yeah, I'm not sure yet. They definitely need to lynch Faddy ASAP though I think.
It depends though, I hope they see the light, but I could see them going for a lot of mislynches before they get everyone. Alexem, CS, Absolutbro, Z-Beat are all lynchable in my book. Then Zeke has his connection with me, Melon can be scumread easily. So yeah, I'm not sure yet. They definitely need to lynch Faddy ASAP though I think.
Stu isn't letting this go. I think Nin may be kept alive based on who he's after I think.
That quote from DCPat will look suspect if Faddy is lynched. Not sure people will go for it, not even sure if people will go for Faddy today though. Just with the way things are right now.
Somewhere Sorian is thinking "This should have been me" haha
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
I've seen town give passes to plenty of things in the past soooo... yeah. It's fun to spectate though ^_^
It's hard to tell which way this is going to go.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, the votes right now are interesting.
So DCPat started the Alexem train (weakly), but the only real "I think he's Scum" vote is from GP, and it was just something he threw out there before leaving for Thanksgiving for the day.
I would hope no one else will join on the Stu vote. Zeke seems to be town reading him for now pending future flips, so I don't think he'd even want to put his vote back there today.
The votes on Z-Beat are weak votes that I would hope aren't going to go anywhere.
Stu's vote on Faddy is the best vote of the day so far honestly. I'm amazed no one else has voted for him yet after all the thought he's put into that scum read.
==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start
alexem (4 votes)
dcpat - #2510
coolestspot - #2553
giant panda - #2582
turmoil7 - #2660
stuart444 (2 votes)
faddy - #2317
ezekelrage - #2489 #2559
alexem - #2511
z-beat (2 votes)
nin - #2694
thechuggernaut - #2716
faddy (1 votes)
stuart444 - #2309
coolestspot - #2333 #2553
absolutbro (1 votes)
gorlak - #2536
coolesspot (1 votes)
ezekelrage - #2559
lone_prodigy (1 votes)
gir - #2746
gir (0 votes)
thechuggernaut - #2506 #2716
melonrabbit (0 votes)
gorlak - #2504 #2536
coolestspot (0 votes)
turmoil7 - #2584 #2660
malus (0 votes)
gir - #2737 #2746
Post Counts:
ezekelrage: 120 stuart444: 101 gorlak: 40 coolestspot: 38 faddy: 35 thechuggernaut: 25 turmoil7: 15 gir: 13 alexem: 11 absolutbro: 9 z-beat: 8 sophia: 8 nin: 8 giant panda: 7 malus: 7 melonrabbit: 6 dcpat: 5 cabot: 3 natiko: 1 lone_prodigy: 1
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
Day Start
alexem (4 votes)
dcpat - #2510
coolestspot - #2553
giant panda - #2582
turmoil7 - #2660
stuart444 (2 votes)
faddy - #2317
alexem - #2511
z-beat (2 votes)
nin - #2694
thechuggernaut - #2716
faddy (1 votes)
stuart444 - #2309
absolutbro (1 votes)
gorlak - #2536
coolesspot (1 votes)
ezekelrage - #2559
lone_prodigy (1 votes)
gir - #2746
gir (0 votes)
melonrabbit (0 votes)
coolestspot (0 votes)
malus (0 votes)
Post Counts:
ezekelrage: 120 stuart444: 101 gorlak: 40 coolestspot: 38 faddy: 35 thechuggernaut: 25 turmoil7: 15 gir: 13 alexem: 11 absolutbro: 9 z-beat: 8 sophia: 8 nin: 8 giant panda: 7 malus: 7 melonrabbit: 6 dcpat: 5 cabot: 3 natiko: 1 lone_prodigy: 1
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
So DCPat started the Alexem train (weakly), but the only real "I think he's Scum" vote is from GP, and it was just something he threw out there before leaving for Thanksgiving for the day.
I would hope no one else will join on the Stu vote. Zeke seems to be town reading him for now pending future flips, so I don't think he'd even want to put his vote back there today.
The votes on Z-Beat are weak votes that I would hope aren't going to go anywhere.
Stu's vote on Faddy is the best vote of the day so far honestly. I'm amazed no one else has voted for him yet after all the thought he's put into that scum read.
It looks like some are being swayed but are still hesitant to jump on it.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Not surprising given his partners now. They aren't exactly the most active players. :/
But yeah, I know how it feels, I talked to myself a lot in Scum Chat last game too. It can get real lonely in there when no one else is talking.
But yeah, I know how it feels, I talked to myself a lot in Scum Chat last game too. It can get real lonely in there when no one else is talking.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Aww haha thanks. I think we'd be pretty good scum partners personally. Plus, we're already used to sitting around in Outer Mafia threads together lol.
Stu with all those posts o.o
Also noticed Faddy has ignored Stu all day today
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Verelios
Were-elios
Stu might pull his lynch off. Still seems like it could go either way but he might...
Now it's leaning towards LP. Wonder how it would be if Sophia didn't sub out.
cabot
Why.
Your first scum game can be pretty terrifying. You think constantly of your actions hurting your team more than the all out attack mentality you tend to adopt as town.
Faddy just needs to go after players who are being scummy but who are not scum.
There's a good few that a case can be made for
Faddy just needs to go after players who are being scummy but who are not scum.
There's a good few that a case can be made for
Hah, yeah. I would say it gets easier but I've not been scum again yet.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Tell me about it...
As for the game, just got caught up. I am very nervous about how this will go. I like how Stu is trying his best to rally the troops though. He knows his read and vote on Faddy are the best of the day.
He's had no sleep. At all.
So he's probably not even going to see days end and is putting in as much effort now as he can before he sleeps whenever he does.
So he's probably not even going to see days end and is putting in as much effort now as he can before he sleeps whenever he does.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, I saw his post about that. :(
It's unfortunate so many players in this game have been feeling under the weather in one way or another. I think Gorlak had said something about feeling sick, you were feeling sick on D1, and now both Sophia and Stu are having troubles with insomnia. :/
That's too bad.
Stu dragging up bears posts now. I'm not even sure what else he can do at this point.
I kind of want pies now thanks to CS though o.o
This is like Stu's last stand XD
Fanto
Confirmed Town
This is the second time someone has referred to voting for Faddy because of Stuart's read to be "voting blindly".Turmoil said:
NO IT ISN'T!
Voting blindly is just randomly choosing someone to vote for. Voting blindly is looking at who is in the lead and placing a vote for one of the two trains without actually trying to get a read on them.
Voting for Faddy here because of Stuart's scum read on him is the opposite of voting blindly.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I do like how this EoD is shaping up to be Scum v Scum right now though...
faddy (4 votes)
stuart444 - #2309
coolestspot - #2768
thechuggernaut - #2775
malus - #2907
lone_prodigy
(3 votes)
gir - #2746
gorlak - #2839
turmoil7 - #2856
Also, thank you Malus for being a good boy and putting your vote on Faddy. I knew you would be a good Townie! <3
faddy (4 votes)
stuart444 - #2309
coolestspot - #2768
thechuggernaut - #2775
malus - #2907
lone_prodigy
(3 votes)
gir - #2746
gorlak - #2839
turmoil7 - #2856
Also, thank you Malus for being a good boy and putting your vote on Faddy. I knew you would be a good Townie! <3
Still going to be a tense one I think.
Man, that's a big risk he's taking here.
Fun Fact: Stu is sweating about this, the confidence is an act haha.
For when you get here sweetie. You did well!
For when you get here sweetie. You did well!
hahaha
Fanto
Confirmed Town
To be fair here, my meta on Melon got completely swapped after how different she was in Conspiracy compared to GoT.Zeke said:
In GoT, Zeke is right, she was a high post count player if I remember right.
In Conspiracy though, she was a lot more quiet. This feels about the same as that, and that's Malus' only reference for her behavior since that was his first game.
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
It's funny that Zeke is talking about someone elses tunnel.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
DCPat be like...
There it is lol.DCPat said:
6 Faddy, 4 Alexem.
tense
tense
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Honestly, this is how I see it right now:
People have been saying that Faddy is probably just Town, because he always is, right? So therefore, there shouldn't be much about Faddy in this game that is all that different from how he has been in the past. Faddy is an easy town read usually, he's always active, he's engaged, if people are scum reading him he usually defends himself well and keeps pushing for his targets.
However, what's happening in this game? People have been suspicious of Faddy, he's not an easy town read, he's not been very active, he's not very engaged with what's happening in the game, and while people are scum reading him he is sitting aside and not really defending himself or doing any scum hunting work of his own, even this close now to EoD.
At the very least, Faddy is not playing like anyone who has ever town-read him in past games is used to seeing him play. That should give them all the ammo they need to want to vote for him and see his flip.
However, what's happening in this game? People have been suspicious of Faddy, he's not an easy town read, he's not been very active, he's not very engaged with what's happening in the game, and while people are scum reading him he is sitting aside and not really defending himself or doing any scum hunting work of his own, even this close now to EoD.
At the very least, Faddy is not playing like anyone who has ever town-read him in past games is used to seeing him play. That should give them all the ammo they need to want to vote for him and see his flip.
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
This is how most people get caught when playing as scum, to be honest. I'm guilty of it this game too, but only Grizzly/Gorlak really picked up on it.
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
If I were LP I would be...
Defending him from any accusations and bussing the HELL out of Faddy right now.
is that hammer or? o.o melon's reaction just made me think
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
That's not a hammer. They're one away.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Same. I was expecting him to come in with a bus vote where he just says he Town reads Stu and agrees with him.
zeke! do it!
oh boo :(
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
Well there's the thing...
I roleblocked Z-Beat on Day 1. He can easily weave a story around that and lynch Faddy for easy town cred. It's probably what I'd be doing right now.
But LP doesn't seem to be posting at all :(
But LP doesn't seem to be posting at all :(
haha, dying @ Zeke
Verelios
Were-elios
This is either going to be a short run to the finish or a chance for town to cannibalize themselves. Best option for scum is likely divorcing LP from anything Faddy or DC. I can't see Stu not going down the DC rabbit hole and if he dies then town's going to prop up his Faddy->DC connection. Chances he survives are small.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Did DCPat choose chat targets for this night?
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
I agree with those changes.
It's actually a pretty well balanced setup. It's just really slow.
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
Also, I know it's a huge game, but I feel bad that my replacement hasn't posted much. :(
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
Also also
rip faddy. Sorry for bowing out on you ;_;
Android Sophia
Miss Congeniality
Then again, the day phase going over Thanksgiving probably was an issue there. Ugh.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
You seriously mean there is only 1 neutral? Jesus. Even Grizzly being able to recruit another is still pretty low. And Bear if you don't want to die N2 stop being so damn towny. Going through your vote analysis I was like thinking "he is making too much sense..."
Tough game. We needed 7 mislynches to win after we kill grizzly. That isn't going to happen. I was sure with our weak team there was going to be an SK in the game.
Also @Fantomas your posts in here have made the game worthwhile. I'm glad we killed you.
We put you in the chat with Zeke because we thought you 2 would talk and possibly let something slip.
What PRs do town actually have. I saw Coolest was one.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Hi! Glad everyone is continuing to get a kick out of my extremely salty posts lol.
For what it's worth, Sophia PM'd me on Discord the other night and we had a good talk, so I'm not really mad about anything anymore. Still somewhat salty I didn't get to play past D1, but oh well.
As for the Town PRs:
Doctor
Thief
Tracker
Sleepwalker
Vengeful
Backfire Override
Thief
Tracker
Sleepwalker
Vengeful
Backfire Override
Also, I think you did way better as Scum than I did. I melted down on D2, and again on D3, and the only thing that saved me was my ridiculously OP role. At least you were able to stay composed in the thread for the most part and didn't have to rely on some absurd Cop-Claim gambit to keep you on life support lol.
Yeah, but they were both on some deep tunnels lol. Stuart's post count is ridiculous though honestly haha, I don't blame him for going nuts today though with how much work he put into that read and how little everyone else was acknowledging it vote-wise until the end there.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I still feel like you were quieter in this game than usual, but perhaps it’s not pure post count so much as your demeanor this game compared to others.
Scum are facing near insurmountable odds at winning this. It’s not impossible, but I think we can all agree it’s not likely lol
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, I'm wondering who they shoot tonight.
I think Stu and GP have to be the two most dangerous to them now. Stu because he's right, he knows it, and he's loud about it, and GP because he can rally votes at EoD without even trying because of his Confirmed Town status.
Verelios
Were-elios
I wouldn't shoot Stu tonight because I know that wouldn't help me in the long run. He seems amenable to some mislynches at least, other than DC, and if he dies I'm sure some people are going to keep bringing his reads list up regardless.
I feel like the best thing to do at the moment is hit someone town will craft a narrative around, like Melon.
I feel like the best thing to do at the moment is hit someone town will craft a narrative around, like Melon.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I feel like Melon has too much mislynch potential in her still though. Maybe someone like Gir or Nin? I could see narratives being crafted around those kills.