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Verelios

Were-elios
I feel like Melon has too much mislynch potential in her still though. Maybe someone like Gir or Nin? I could see narratives being crafted around those kills.
That might be right. If there was a sudden push for Zeke based on reads melon might hop on.
 
About Stus posts, He's high activity because he gets really into these games and despite some stuff (like what happened early this game ^^;), he enjoys these games and love getting into it and making tons of posts.

Really curious now who scum is going to kill though.
 

cabot

Why.
Also as regards my activity I'm pretty much a 50 post per day phase person, a bit more on day 1s. The only game where I have went post-crazy was Game of Thrones.

Stuart and Zeke are at like 200 posts in this phase. It is ridiculous.

Activity isn't correct, it's the passion of the chase you were missing. You were closer to what I expected when you were rolling off Coolest's second gambit, because you genuinely believed something useful was in there. I figured you were having trouble making arguments on folk you knew weren't scum.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
About Stus posts, He's high activity because he gets really into these games and despite some stuff (like what happened early this game ^^;), he enjoys these games and love getting into it and making tons of posts.
Yeah, me too haha. I just checked back on the post counts in GoT, and it's actually kind of cute how I went from hardly posting in the first couple of days, to the top of the post count list in later days lol.
I figured you were having trouble making arguments on folk you knew weren't scum.
This was one of my biggest problems as Scum. I would get nervous and back down from my pushes too early because I already knew they were Town.
Interesting.
 
Yeah, me too haha. I just checked back on the post counts in GoT, and it's actually kind of cute how I went from hardly posting in the first couple of days, to the top of the post count list in later days lol.

lol. Wonder what it would be like with a scum team of you and Stu.

As long as it's not lovers >.<
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
You seriously mean there is only 1 neutral? Jesus. Even Grizzly being able to recruit another is still pretty low. And Bear if you don't want to die N2 stop being so damn towny. Going through your vote analysis I was like thinking "he is making too much sense..."

Tough game. We needed 7 mislynches to win after we kill grizzly. That isn't going to happen. I was sure with our weak team there was going to be an SK in the game.

Also @Fantomas your posts in here have made the game worthwhile. I'm glad we killed you.
We put you in the chat with Zeke because we thought you 2 would talk and possibly let something slip.

What PRs do town actually have. I saw Coolest was one.

After D1 I had to step my town game or I would have been easy mislynch-fodder.
 
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Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I still feel like you were quieter in this game than usual, but perhaps it’s not pure post count so much as your demeanor this game compared to others.

Scum are facing near insurmountable odds at winning this. It’s not impossible, but I think we can all agree it’s not likely lol

Activity isn't correct, it's the passion of the chase you were missing. You were closer to what I expected when you were rolling off Coolest's second gambit, because you genuinely believed something useful was in there. I figured you were having trouble making arguments on folk you knew weren't scum.

These are fair comments. But I don't know if I would have been any more active or assertive as town. I was feeling burned out before the game started and I said it in the sign up thread.

I was kind of annoyed there were already replacements on the list when the game started, before roles were out. I had specifically said I would play if we needed numbers so I wasn't going to pull out.

I probably should have tried to argue more on day 1 and I should have been the one to switch onto coolest at EoD. I made plenty of mistakes.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I think I know the answer but I'm guessing Scum chat is pretty much dead? Like if it was closed, not much would change?

it was dead most of the game. I should have posted more in there.

ET was just too busy with school and DCPat never really talks too much in scum chat anyway. I felt i was letting Sophia down by not talking more and trying to work out things or explain my positions better.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I did leave light direction to roleblock coolest and either kill Zeke or Stuart. So hopefully that will happen...
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I probably should have tried to argue more on day 1 and I should have been the one to switch onto coolest at EoD. I made plenty of mistakes.
Honestly, I thought you played really good on D1. There were only a couple things that stood out to me, but they only really looked bad to me in hindsight after I knew your alignment.

I will admit that I was apparently the only person who thought your ET vote wasn't a bus vote, so I guess I need to start getting better at reading votes haha. I feel like I learned a thing or two from Grizzly's analysis though, so that's something I want to try doing more of in the future.
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
From what I am counting, scum now has to survive to D9 to reach MYLO. D10 if one of them is lynched.

This is going to be really, really rough.
 
From what I am counting, scum now has to survive to D9 to reach MYLO. D10 if one of them is lynched.

This is going to be really, really rough.

wow.

No chance I think. Maybe there should have been some extra kills for the scum team or an SK neutral or something?

If scum somehow made it to that, I'll be shocked.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, the Scum team are dead men walking at this point. Unlucky.

I'm guessing they tried to kill Stu but he was protected?
 
It's also not easy that the remaining scum are both somewhat quiet. They can't easily control the conversation anymore, especially with Stu, Zeke, etc alive.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Zeke said:
Also its spec chat, what else is there to do except yell
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Android Sophia

Miss Congeniality
Depending on how things play out, this game could become unwinnable for scum in more ways than one. Short of a massive failure on town's part, I don't think they can make it to Day 9 and still win.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
I can't see scum coming back from this unless they go silent and town starts ripping each other to shreds, which is very unlikely. Would also be a weird way to win.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I just don't see many mislynches left at this point. There are definitely a few who could go down, but not as many as Scum needs to win I don't think. Even if they go into heavy coasting mode, both of them have drawn heat and are being actively scum read by a lot of Town players. That's not good for the short term or the long term for them as far as I can tell.

It sucks for LP because I don't think he can do anything to save himself. The reads are all based on Sophia's interactions and voting patterns. They don't even have to really listen to a word LP says, there are too many answers for them based on his lynch for them to let him off the hook, and it's so early in the game with 2 scum down that they can kind of afford to just go on these hunches they had about LP and DCP without worrying too much about entering LyLo/MyLo all of a sudden.
 

cabot

Why.
wow.

No chance I think. Maybe there should have been some extra kills for the scum team or an SK neutral or something?

If scum somehow made it to that, I'll be shocked.

So there is an extra kill but the role has been playing pretty clearly town and won't activate it.

Maybe the Neutral could recruit and if he chose wrong, it would kill the person
 

cabot

Why.
I will also say scum never used their role block last night so it's not all bad luck.

Use your weapons
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Just got caught up.

Gotta love the talk about me being killed for my reads...

"But, he was town-reading Scum and scum-reading Town though. Why would they have killed him N1 for that? He could have helped them. No way Scum could see the chat."

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Fanto

Confirmed Town
I will also say scum never used their role block last night so it's not all bad luck.

Use your weapons
So they didn't use either of their powers last night, just the kill?

I mean, yeah. If they follow Faddy's direction to roleblock Coolest, well, things are a lot different today already. Also, they could have stuck two more people in the chat together and the discussions surrounding that today would have ate up some good time that would otherwise be spent on scum hunting.

Instead, their kill target got protected and now everyone's just like "LP, you are already dead. DCPat, we're comin for you too."
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Feels like this might be kind of a quiet day phase. I don't think anyone is going to argue against lynching LP from the way things have gone so far.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Seems like both LP and DCPat are trying to direct this vote reading narrative a bit. I don't know if it will work, but I like seeing the effort for sure. I could see it leading to a Melon mislynch though.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Just got caught up, thank god no one is talking about me being killed for my reads agai-
Zeke said:
I believe the chat was scum created and they saw everything. With me thinking that, I think it's more likely Fanto was killed because of the reads. Otherwise why put Fanto in the chat in the first place if you planned to kill him all along? Would just be a waste of information gathering on their end.
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
In regards to a possible mislynch today, I could see it, but I still think LP goes down today. There's been more than one person that has said something to the effect of "If LP flips town, then..." which indicates to me that they are fully prepared to see his flip at EoD and decide who they want to go after tomorrow based on that.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Gorlak said:
Somehow this feels too easy.
Stuart444 said:
So did ET D1 and look how that turned out.
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On a more serious note, although I like how Gorlak is trying to assume that there are more Scum than they would like to think, it almost feels like that isn't doing them good in this case because people are questioning the "ease" of the lynches. The fact of the matter is that there are only 2 Scum players left, and not very strong voices at that, so there isn't really much of a narrative for non-Town members to craft to make their lynches seem difficult.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
That total giveup from LP.

I've seen it so much from town and scum a like.
Yeah, I don't think he can save himself, it's basically going how I thought it would earlier when I said they don't even really need to listen to LP today to want to lynch him for the info that his flip provides tomorrow. They can afford it.
 

cabot

Why.
it doesn't matter anyway.

turmoil is the Vengeful and his target is LP, so he's dead either way, only way out is a tie.
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Once Stuart is night killed, I can see town falling into disarray for a while - there isn't really anyone else with a unifying voice there, instead of scattershot reads.
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
So it's now 15 players, 14 town vs 1 scum.

Might as well call it at this point, lol. Last scum would need to make six consecutive mislynches happen. Or five with luck.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So it's now 15 players, 14 town vs 1 scum.

Might as well call it at this point, lol. Last scum would need to make six consecutive mislynches happen. Or five with luck.
If Stu is alive tomorrow, and Town decides to trust in him again, it could be a game with no mislynches, since Kalor using his override is what ended D2.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Daaaaaaaaamn, it's going to be tough for scum from here on out. Bordering a miracle this seems like endgame.
 

cabot

Why.
Well I have no sub. So yes.


Also I forgot doc can't protect the same target consecutively, so only the thief could save Stuart
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, luckily it looks like there is a willing replacement now in the main Mafia OT, so no mod killing the doctor at least.

And yeah, the thief could still try protecting Stu too, so he's not dead yet haha.
 
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