Yeah, I agree they are not teamed. I do think Brazil's EoD was SUPER BAD but I really can't suss if he was just not paying good attention because that would have been some more open wolfing than I'd expect from him whereas Fando feels more... reserved?
What do you think about this Faddy stuff?
Feels like Brazil is buttering up Fran. Or maybe I don’t understand what’s brilliant about overriding someone who was getting lynched anyway.
I wish I had some fix of some sort on AB.
Fran is whatever. Brazil saying it is brilliant raises my hackles a little.
rip meNo, I said that you aren't going to regardless of what I do and that's still the case. :P Since we're both vanilla (I realize I didn't answer, no I didn't notice the breadcrumb on who your role name is but I also don't pay attention to role name bread crumbs much), it's not like the trust factor really matters here. We can use the chat to bounce more specific reads off of each other, but there's no real secret stuff we can get into anyway so the trust factor doesn't actually end up mattering too much.
(Unless you're worried that a private room with me will slowly poison your mind, then maybe)
rip me
I'll take what you say about Sneeks under consideration. Her seeming far less scattered and uncertain here makes me more concerned but I have to think about it.
I think lurker LP is scum LP.
Also I'm Zeke, which I find delightful in a post-Marvel world. I don't think there's a name hunter unless it's a neutral and then meh, whatever, sure, get me lynched.
Actually, I want to chase that a second. Include and Verelios being masons is a thing. That makes sense. The others we've seen so far make less sense to me. You being vanilla town as Grizzly. Zeke vanilla. nin the overrider. Was nin famous for an override?
^^I thought you were saying this while taking CeeCee's shifting claim into account.I'm curious to see what he does today because by my guess he should be able to shoot. He's either odd-day or multi-shot but can't shoot consecutive days. If he delays again then I could be more on board thinking he is neutral, there is totally a town variant of his role that is one shot but there would be no reason for CeeCee to claim multiple shots AND keep the lie going a second day if he's town. If he's neutral though, I bet he is the "classic" gafia serial killer variant where he has his own win con independent of us (it used to be kill two town and one scum a lot). If that's the case, he's stalling so he can get a clear shot at scum. And if he is just a neutral SK then lol that he claimed so early but that would shock me. I'd already be shocked at a neutral day killer since that means they could always kill unhindered which is weird in a game with a commuter.
Haven’t seen it yet but I will report out in a bit. Generally Natiko has seemed kinda scattered this game. I usually feel very good about him (even when it turns out I’m real wrong) but here that’s been less. Some shining moments though.
Lurker LP is too easy, you’re right. But this is more non-entity LP.
Blarg is talking more about the game but much of it is wrong and I don’t know if that’s a gambit/distraction or what.
I’m gonna go catch up.
^^I thought you were saying this while taking CeeCee's shifting claim into account.
Natiko continuing to dodge saying anything of substance is not a good look.
These are good points. I use Pineapple Pizza Blarg as my measure so I was seeing scum potential here but I think you raise something interesting. As for scum, I figure it depends on the team. If they don't have more killing roles they really just might want to make sure they nail the kill. And the people who are confirmed may be less of a threat than cabot in terms of thread pull, but that doesn't really explain Geno so I'm talking myself right out of my own argument.As for Blarg, I think he’s town. A lot is always wrong with what he does and I feel like he does that purposely so he can still keep that blarginess going while still putting his real thoughts out. That Zubz/Ezekel read and worry is real. I think Blarg does believe scum might have more info on modifiers and that’s where the real slip was but he has a point on why cabot might have been hit, it’s another day where we have someone weird dying when you consider there is a cop claim out and two confirmed people. They can’t be THAT worried about protection.
I was just thinking that but didn’t want to say it all the way in game, just kinda hinted around it because I want to see what else Fando says. But yeah, Brazil lashing out seems more town. Fando hanging back and lightly defending feels more like when we played as scum. Like someone checking in and calculating.
in case that wasn't clear, I'm trying to figure out if you being nice to me is genuine. :PI'm afk for the next 8 hours or so, I have to shift my sleep schedule tonight. Not announcing it to the main thread but I figured you'd want to know so you don't just sit here in paranoia if I don't respond. :P
in case that wasn't clear, I'm trying to figure out if you being nice to me is genuine. :P
So, okay, let me read this carefully here. I'll annotate with you and see what you think.
D2 he townread Faddy. We'll start there.
He's summarizing Faddy's d2 interactions. Notes some places were Faddy was wiggly. This is where I guess I missed it because this reads like the set up for a scumread.
So I find his conclusion interesting - he leans town on Faddy and says he wouldn't vote him but he leaves space there. Space where if he does vote Faddy for self pres he can point to his read for some justification.
This is weird. Fandorin can vote for self pres regardless and while this read is thorough, you can also drive a truck through it.
It makes me wonder if we should flip Faddy first to see what Fandorin would do. Or at least put votes there to see if he reacts/how he reacts.lol that was all good in a catch up, yeah he basically still ends up in the same place he started. If this game is easy then Faddy and Fandorin are both scum and Fandorin is trying to toe the line but he has to know that this is pretty transparent I that’s the case, I see you just posted something long, one sec
I think it does also lend to a deeper examination of Brazil. I think Fandorin is shady af right now but it makes me idly wonder if we had the wrong brother. But I'm more inclined to think that Brazil thinks he knows while Fando is in the more manipulative position.I didn’t expect Brazil to go so deep on guarding Fand. Calling him 100% town has me thinking what’s going on here. Curious to hear how he got to that read because he left that real vague just saying that Fand is still trying to solve him in ingenious ways. That just sounds like catering to my observation earlier that they are clearly trying to solve each other.
CONCURI don’t see how Flux could be scum but man, he sure is full of awful takes.
CONCUR
His whole game has been full of awful takes. Starting to think that's just Flux. I don't think I've played with him before. If so, it's been a while.
Doctors are super common but with seemingly only one kill per night and a claimed bp in play, is there a doctor? Though I guess that could be covering a second kill with those targets.
What's the proof tho? That was a fucking breadcrumb he posted.
Oh, ignore my question, I guess it would help if I read I the end of the post.
Yeah, and Chuggs was kind of out of it so it takes an unknown out of the equation that couldn't easily be solved otherwise and wasn't likely to prove himself with play. Now I'm glad you were afk.Zeke wanted to hammer, Chuggs did instead, Chuggs died because Faddy was a bomb. Not really the worst outcome to be honesty since I was worried about Chuggs claim in lieu of these doc claims.
Thinking on it more now, the redacted from turmoil’s role might have been clarification that he doesn’t also become a bomb if Faddy already exploded, I originally read that redacted as a faction thing but it seems like it was a role specific thing.
Oh my god, am I the doctor?
That's the best thing to come out of this mess.
So Faddy claimed
Ket countered (same targets? wtg Faddy I guess)
Chuggs hammered
Faddy was a bomb and exploded but Chuggs' vest, which was real, did not matter
Wow, what a mix of being wrong and right
We get the boat overnight, right?