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[Dusk Soldier]

Ok tell me why a scum team of nin, Dusk, Terra/Ty and Kawl doesn't work?

Well for starters, I voted out Kawl D1.

And i also currently have a vote down on Ty.

Did you just throw 4 random names together?

 

[Faddy]

Thanks for playing. A third could. But the more town on Sorian, the less reason for scum to engineer another train.

The question isn't why are there town on the train. There question is why wouldn't there by scum? This train tired scum before CCS train even started

Thanks for ignoring my answer to that point.

 

[flatearthpandas]

Typos, but sorian train tied kawk before ccs started. Why no scum is the question. Not why some town

 

[Faddy]

Well for starters, I voted out Kawl D1.

And i also currently have a vote down on Ty.

Did you just throw 4 random names together?

Because scum players never vote for each other? I'm not saying anything conclusive, just as a counter to feps claim that there must be a scum vote on sorian

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

FEPs tunneling me says so damn much about how much pressure he's feeling right now. Wonder why?

 

[Faddy]

Why did Nin help vote Sorian out on day 2 or are we back to the Sorian/Monkey team?

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Vote count

 

[flatearthpandas]

Thanks for ignoring my answer to that point.

Any "answer" you might be referencing is garbage.

Am i bluffing? Is it town to force the claim? It's much better for me to claim tomorrow.

Interesting to see nomad playing the game finally. More posts in the last thirty minutes than the rest of the game?? But thinks he can their shade??? Cute

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Alternate thought:

Is FEPs a neutral does that mean monkey is scum?

 

[El Topo]

I can't follow you there, Nomad. Explanation please?

 

[flatearthpandas]

Literally has nomad posted more now than the rest of the game???? I don't even know what to do with him here? What do i say? Lynch him. I believe in scum Sorian until convenient presence nomad flips town somehow

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Any "answer" you might be referencing is garbage.

Am i bluffing? Is it town to force the claim? It's much better for me to claim tomorrow.

Interesting to see nomad playing the game finally. More posts in the last thirty minutes than the rest of the game?? But thinks he can their shade??? Cute

You are sweating bullets, right now.

You are tunneling on me and lashing out at Dorian and others.

If you were neutral, you wouldn't be doing this.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

I can't follow you there, Nomad. Explanation please?

I could be convinced that FEPs throwing off the scent from Monkey

 

[flatearthpandas]

I need to sleep soon. Lynch nomad first. If he's town, lynch Sorian. After that, lynch faddy. But don't forget monkey if he's scum. Beyond that, terra

 

[flatearthpandas]

But really, at this point, is there question? Literally, nomad out of the woodworks. Literally doubling post count. Nervous i guess

 

[heymonkey]

FEPs tunneling me says so damn much about how much pressure he's feeling right now. Wonder why?

No, it doesn't. It says he believes what he's saying, much like in Dark Souls. it doesn't mean he's necessarily right but it sure doesn't mean he's scum.

You know what? I owe him some trust if I'm gonna keep saying he is clean. And you have been weird. Fuck it. Let's see how this one goes.

vote: Nomad Sparkster[/hihhlight]

 

[Faddy]

I need to sleep soon. Lynch nomad first. If he's town, lynch Sorian. After that, lynch faddy. But don't forget monkey if he's scum. Beyond that, terra

You are so full of shit.

You have nothing concrete to go on other than your read which was wrong yesterday. You are arrogant to think you are right today.

 

[heymonkey]

Oh goddammit mobile.

vote: Nomad Sparkster

I need to sleep soon. Lynch nomad first. If he's town, lynch Sorian. After that, lynch faddy. But don't forget monkey if he's scum. Beyond that, terra

That is many scum tho

 

[heymonkey]

Faddy, though, how about NS suddenly leaping into the game?

 

[flatearthpandas]

You are so full of shit.

You have nothing concrete to go on other than your read which was wrong yesterday. You are arrogant to think you are right today.

Not at all. My plan today is complicated. The game is split into groups. It isn't perfect but the groups are there. My plan is easy to follow and based off of real reads. I need trust today but the plan isn't bad regardless if you flip me or nomad tomorrow. But i don't think nomad can make a solid claim tomorrow where I've had confidence since d2, told explicitly to Sorian d2, that i can prove myself

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

FEP's tunneling on an obvious townie.

Which means an aggressive neutral or a panic'd scum

 

[flatearthpandas]

Honestly, monkey, i don't think you're scum. And honestly i don't think sorian is either. I think you know my role as well. the only way i think you're scum is if Sorian is. And you can't fault that suspicion in that circumstance. I want to cover all bases

 

[flatearthpandas]

obvious townie

Lmao

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Monkey

What is your role?

 

[flatearthpandas]

Monkey

What is your role?

Lmao.

 

[Sorian]

FEP shouldn't be in the thunderdome. If people really feel like it's necessary to do one, make it between Dusk and Nomad.

Snark aside, I don't know my voters on D1 are pure FEP, I do know how you'll flip now clearly (which means we've gotten to the point where the claim doesn't matter) but you have been running a weird narrative. It's coming from town though so now I care a whole lot less.

 

[Sorian]

Jesus, Nomad not following any game he plays in is why it's impossible to read him.

 

[Faddy]

Honestly, monkey, i don't think you're scum. And honestly i don't think sorian is either. I think you know my role as well. the only way i think you're scum is if Sorian is. And you can't fault that suspicion in that circumstance. I want to cover all bases

Jesus christ dude, stop waving a role claim about for town credit. If you can clear yourself, do it and we can all move on.

If Sorian and Monkey know, do scum know? Why not fill in your fellow townies.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

FEPs defensive play/tunneling towards me/lashing out at Sorian is fascinating to watch

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Jesus, Nomad not following any game he plays in is why it's impossible to read him.

I feel loved

 

[Faddy]

FEP shouldn't be in the thunderdome. If people really feel like it's necessary to do one, make it between Dusk and Nomad.

Snark aside, I don't know my voters on D1 are pure FEP, I do know how you'll flip now clearly (which means we've gotten to the point where the claim doesn't matter) but you have been running a weird narrative. It's coming from town though so now I care a whole lot less.

Tell me about fep Sorian and tell me how you figured it out.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Tell me about fep Sorian and tell me how you figured it out.

 

[Sorian]

Tell me about fep Sorian and tell me how you figured it out.

Faddy, I don't know why you are being dense to the fact that he's the mason. I had forgotten that he'd dropped a couple times to me that I never had a chance to lynch him. It's infinitely more clear why that is now.

 

[Faddy]

Faddy, I don't know why you are being dense to the fact that he's the mason. I had forgotten that he'd dropped a couple times to me that I never had a chance to lynch him. It's infinitely more clear why that is now.

Is he the mason? Why doesn't he just say that then.

 

[Sorian]

There's utility in staying unclaimed with that until end game (well, the day before mylo/lylo) so I'm sure he wanted to be more coy than he actually ended up being.

 

[Faddy]

There's utility in staying unclaimed with that until end game (well, the day before mylo/lylo) so I'm sure he wanted to be more coy than he actually ended up being.

Yes I know, I wrote that when Worm was believing Kark. It loses the utility when it is dangled like a carrot so why be cryptic. Either claim or shut up.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Couldn't Masons be scum utility as well

 

[Faddy]

If fep is the mason why are he and cabot on different sides of the nin vote. Did cabot get NK'd because fep couldn't pocket him?

 

[Dr. Worm]

I said I'd believe Kark in the absence of a counterclaim

Obviously I'm dumb for thinking that a townie wouldn't fakeclaim mason

 

[Sorian]

If fep is the mason why are he and cabot on different sides of the nin vote. Did cabot get NK'd because fep couldn't pocket him?

I mean to address this earlier but forgot. You know masons don;t have a private chat right?

 

[Sorian]

Couldn't Masons be scum utility as well

More utility than town hooker

:thumbsup:

 

[Dr. Worm]

I mean to address this earlier but forgot. You know masons don;t have a private chat right?

Our Masons did have a chat, there's a redacted link in the role spill

 

[Faddy]

I mean to address this earlier but forgot. You know masons don;t have a private chat right?

I thought they did have a private chat?

Actually it is right in cabot's flip

 

[flatearthpandas]

I thought we blew it super early tbh. And we did have a chat.

Best was faddy quoting the first crumb, where I gave myself my only read this game... Identical to cabot's read... as scum tell.

Anywho, here's cabot's last reads:
1. Terra
2. Kark
3. Topo
4. Dusk

I disagreed with him on dusk and topo. Kark was hard, but ultimately disagreed there too. He did persist his own nk so he might have powers, but regardless here are his thoughts. Mason chat was chief and randle club, keeping with the theme.

Anywho, i have to sleep. Mad my position clear. Nomad is there scum on Sorian. His behavior lends credence. If he's town, i would lynch Sorian. If he's scum, monkey. If either nomad or Sorian end up town, time to hit ty and terra and then congrats on the town win.

 

[Faddy]

Greetings!
You are a Terrible Mason. You are aligned with TOWN.
In addition to voting, you share a special relationship with the other Mason, [REDACTED]. You can be assured that your partner is aligned with TOWN. You can chat with your partner here: [REDACTED]
You win when all threats to Town are eliminated.
The game thread can be found here: http://outergafia.net/index.php?threads/30/

 

[flatearthpandas]

Predict, not persist.

 

[Ty4on]

Sorry for being so lazy.
School plus I don't really have any strong feelings.

Vote: Nomad Sparkster

Feels like a decent-ish vote. I didn't get much from reading D1 and 2 over, but I don't feel like nin and Topo are on the same team from how they behaved.

 

[Faddy]

The flip does also say that the partner is town. I don't think this is a bastard game so that does clear feps.

UNVOTE

 

[Faddy]

I thought we blew it super early tbh. And we did have a chat.

Best was faddy quoting the first crumb, where I gave myself my only read this game... Identical to cabot's read... as scum tell.

Anywho, here's cabot's last reads:
1. Terra
2. Kark
3. Topo
4. Dusk

I disagreed with him on dusk and topo. Kark was hard, but ultimately disagreed there too. He did persist his own nk so he might have powers, but regardless here are his thoughts. Mason chat was chief and randle club, keeping with the theme.

Anywho, i have to sleep. Mad my position clear. Nomad is there scum on Sorian. His behavior lends credence. If he's town, i would lynch Sorian. If he's scum, monkey. If either nomad or Sorian end up town, time to hit ty and terra and then congrats on the town win.

Maybe you should have listened to Cabot a bit more. He got nin right and you didn't.

 

[Sorian]

Oh, WELL EXCUSE ME

Spoiler

I don't read role flips, I just read role names

 

[flatearthpandas]

Maybe you should have listened to Cabot a bit more. He got nin right and you didn't.

Lol, you can read later that i was cool with the nin lynch. tell me more about your feats.

Like i said earlier, i don't usually brag about being terrible

 

[Ty4on]

I just checked and made the mistake to think that Nomadic sparks = Natiko.

My bad :/

:thinking:

 

[Ty4on]

I guess that doesn't say much, but nin was weirdly fixated on Nomad and floated the idea of lynching him.

 

[flatearthpandas]

Toothless shade

 

[flatearthpandas]

I'm dead tonight. Would be better if the claim didn't have to come tonight, but lynch nomad and clear the air. Like i said this whole phase.

 

[Ty4on]

Toothless shade

I'm struggling to find the logic behind it, but I can kinda see the fear that Nomad will be lynched, possibly with a fast train.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Now FEPs paranoia gets a little more justified with it's vote

 

[Ty4on]

I'm dead tonight. Would be better if the claim didn't have to come tonight, but lynch nomad and clear the air. Like i said this whole phase.

If he flips scum, where would you go next?

 

[Faddy]

Lol, you can read later that i was cool with the nin lynch. tell me more about your feats.

Like i said earlier, i don't usually brag about being terrible

So on day 2 did you follow me onto Crimson because you think he might be scum or because I might be scum?

 

[heymonkey]

Interesting, I'd have guessed Faddy was the other mason. I would also think that feps and cabot might have trusted one another more.

I will say, one final time, Sorian might be scum. I am not. There is no link there. Lynching an override would be a foolish move at this point in the game. But whatever, insert shruggie guy.

I want to look back at all day votes to clarify some things but I have a research meeting. Today is hard.

 

[El Topo]

Who replaced Crimson Fist again?

 

[Faddy]

Who replaced Crimson Fist again?

Terrabyte20xx replaced Crimson

Ty4on replaced Bronxman

 

[El Topo]

Thanks. Didn't find it in the opening posts.

 

[Faddy]

Interesting, I'd have guessed Faddy was the other mason. I would also think that feps and cabot might have trusted one another more.

I will say, one final time, Sorian might be scum. I am not. There is no link there. Lynching an override would be a foolish move at this point in the game. But whatever, insert shruggie guy.

I want to look back at all day votes to clarify some things but I have a research meeting. Today is hard.

The link is that nin voted Sorian on a low number of votes. Now maybe he was bussing Sorian but it seems unlikely after losing scum on day 1.

So a plausible theory is that nin voted Sorian knowing you would override and save Sorian. But then all 3 remaining scum would be linked together which seems very foolhardy.

 

[Hecht]

Well that was fun to do on mobile.

Dusk Soldier (2)
heymonkey
Dr. Worm
Sorian

El Topo (0)
Nomad Sparkster

Ty4on (1)
Dusk Soldier

Terrabyte20xx (0)
heymonkey

Nomad Sparkster (3)
flatearthpandas
flatearthpandas
heymonkey
Ty4on

flatearthpandas (1)
Sorian
Faddy
Nomad Sparkster

Sorian (0)
flatearthpandas

 

[Sorian]

Wait, I saw that Nomad was still trying to spin after the mason reveal. I didn't realize he had a vote there too. Why?

 

[El Topo]

Wait, I saw that Nomad was still trying to spin after the mason reveal. I didn't realize he had a vote there too. Why?

Because Nomad. ;-)

 

[Ty4on]

This got super quiet lol

For what it's worth Dusk pretty much never referred to or spoke to Nin. All I could find was a post about the CCS voters with nin's name.
With Nin I couldn't even find any post from him mentioning dusk.

I'm gonna grab some food. I should go to sleep soon, but because I'm weak I'll probably stay up till day end.

 

[Ty4on]

Damn you lol

 

[Ty4on]

Because Nomad. ;-)

What do you think of the stuff that has happened?

 

[El Topo]

What do you think of the stuff that has happened?

I'm not really certain on anything right now, other than that fep is the Mason and thus Town.

 

[Faddy]

The nin vote was close so I think it is more probable than not that scum were on Sorian or waiting in the wings to vote which puts Ty4on in the frame

I think Dusk Soldier is the right vote here

VOTE: Dusk Soldier

 

[El Topo]

I'll say that I found Nomad's behavior very odd, but I don't recall if I have played with him, so I'm really just trusting others here when they say that he always plays like this.

 

[Faddy]

The nin vote was close so I think it is more probable than not that scum were on Sorian or waiting in the wings to vote which puts Ty4on in the frame

I think Dusk Soldier is the right vote here

VOTE: Dusk Soldier

Should I switch to Ty. Come on Dusk convince me.

 

[heymonkey]

I went back and looked at votes - I'm putting Terra and Nomad as top possibilities, then Dusk and Ty. Dusk and Ty have occasionally done more townie things/votes but could be as a front. Terra and Nomad are more suspect. But Nomad could be Nomad.

 

[Ty4on]

I went back and looked at votes - I'm putting Terra and Nomad as top possibilities, then Dusk and Ty. Dusk and Ty have occasionally done more townie things/votes but could be as a front. Terra and Nomad are more suspect. But Nomad could be Nomad.

What have dusk done?

 

[heymonkey]

Day 1:
CCS (5)
Faddy
El Topo
nin1000
Sorian
squidyj

nin1000 (0)
cabot
El Topo

Sorian (3)
squidyj
El Topo
heymonkey
flatearthpandas
Karkador
Nomad Sparkster

El Topo (0)
Sorian

BiscuitFreak69 (0)
flatearthpandas
Dusk Soldier

Blargonaut (0)
kyanrute

Faddy (0)
flatearthpandas
heymonkey

flatearthpandas (0)
Blargonaut
Sorian

Karkador (1)
cabot
squidyj
squidyj

No Lynch (0)
Karkador
Blargonaut
BiscuitFreak69
Nomad Sparkster

Bronx-Man (0)
nin1000

Kawl (6)
heymonkey
Blargonaut
squidyj
Dusk Soldier
BiscuitFreak69
CCS
kyanrute

Nomad Sparkster (0)
CCS

Final Vote Count (day 2)

Sorian (4)
Dusk Soldier
Karkador
Nin1000
cabot

CrimsonFist (3)
Faddy
Flatearthpandas
Sorian

Nin1000 (3)
Blargonaut
Hey_Monkey
Kyanrute

Blargonaut (1)
El Topo

El Topo (1)
Nomadic Sparks

No Vote (3)
Bronx-man
CrimsonFist
Darryl

one sec, will add day 3

 

[heymonkey]

nin1000 (7)
heymonkey
cabot
Faddy
Dr. Worm
Sorian
El Topo
Ty4on

Sorian (4)
flatearthpandas
karkador
Dusk Soldier
Terrabyte20xx

El Topo (1)
Nomad Sparkster

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

Went over the entire thread Ctrl-F Dusk and Nomad.

Dusk posts more consistently than nomad, but also, at least from my point of view, seems to lack convitction at times. He'll say things and even vote, but just feels kind of hollow to me.

Nomad, on the other hand is consistent and appears to have strong conviction in his posts, but went dark after day two until someone brought him up today. If you look at it with the belief that he's scum, he could easily look like someone resting due to a lack of pressure until provoked, then he posted a ton.


I'm definitely going to vote one of them, just still mulling over who.

 

[heymonkey]

aw shit, that copy/past didn't grab strikethroughs :(

What have dusk done?

Dusk voted Kawl, posted that weird thing about his role, and put up one analysis post. More than some. Much less than others. Still puts him the shady area of possibility for me.

 

[heymonkey]

I don't know Dusk well enough to speculate on why he would ask if Ouro designed the roles for us if if they were RNGed. Like what that would mean for Dusk. (this is regardless of what Ouro said; my interest is in the fact that Dusk asked and it's my one hesitation - if he's scum, it could have brought attention to his role)

 

[Faddy]

aw shit, that copy/past didn't grab strikethroughs :(

Best to quote then remove the quote tags.

 

[heymonkey]

yeah, will for the future :/ I have to drive home if someone wants to re-pull them. Or I can when I get home

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Should I switch to Ty. Come on Dusk convince me.

I mean Sorian is voting to lynch me, which based on his track record this game should tell you right off the bat that you need to move your vote elsewhere.

Ty/Bronx so far have only vote once that I can see, and it was very very opportunistic hammer vote on nin. He also seems to be more interested in hanging out in the background being a wallflower than in scum hunting.

So far this day phase all he's contributed is a lazy sheep vote against Nomad. I definitely think he's fitting the profile of coasting scum.

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

I'm going to go out on a limb and trust FEPs.

VOTE: Nomad Sparkster

I'm not completely convinced by his plan, but I do think there's some merit to it and combined with my re-read of the thread I feel that this is the best bet right now. Barely.

 

[Ty4on]

I mean Sorian is voting to lynch me, which based on his track record this game should tell you right off the bat that you need to move your vote elsewhere.

Ty/Bronx so far have only vote once that I can see, and it was very very opportunistic hammer vote on nin. He also seems to be more interested in hanging out in the background being a wallflower than in scum hunting.

So far this day phase all he's contributed is a lazy sheep vote against Nomad. I definitely think he's fitting the profile of coasting scum.

Why would I be coasting in a game where scum is being obliterated.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Is this thunderdome really happening?

 

[Faddy]

Why would I be coasting in a game where scum is being obliterated.

Not wanting to be caught on the opposite train when a scum mate gets lynched?

Would you have voted out Sorian if e.g. cabot flipped his vote instead of Topo?

 

[Ty4on]

Not wanting to be caught on the opposite train when a scum mate gets lynched?

Would you have voted out Sorian if e.g. cabot flipped his vote instead of Topo?

No. I never really saw myself voting Sorian.

Ok real talk

The weird lynchbomb role kinda throws a wrench, but I townread Sorian's D1 EoD because he's so lax and isn't pushing a counterwagon. He's usually a lot more proactive as scum and even though he isn't directly defending his mates he is trying to redirect folks over to scummy townies while keeping the bus door open.

Ty4on [m]

hey_monkey [f]

flatearthpandas [m]

Faddy [m]
cabot [m]

Sorian [m]

Nomadic Sparks [m]
Karkador [m]

Dr.Worm [m]
Dusk Soldier [m]
Terrabyte [m]

El Topo [m]
Nin1000 [m]

I didn't vote nin earlier because I first thought of putting a vote down after Sorian made his which would've put him just one vote from a majority and the vote wasn't really in flux at the time.

Clarification on the first quote, that "even though he isn't directly defending his mates" bit is about his scum play and not the play here. He wasn't really pushing new wagons when Kawl was starting to gain votes.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Why would I be coasting in a game where scum is being obliterated.

nin/Kawl didn't fight their own lynches. And nobody really put up a fight against them either. So I'm not sure what your point is there...

 

[Faddy]

But the fact is you didn't put that vote down.

You waited until the vote was decided before you did it. Did you have no inclination to do it when the vote went tied?

 

[Faddy]

that was for ty4on

 

[Sorian]

I mean Sorian is voting to lynch me, which based on his track record this game should tell you right off the bat that you need to move your vote elsewhere.

Ty/Bronx so far have only vote once that I can see, and it was very very opportunistic hammer vote on nin. He also seems to be more interested in hanging out in the background being a wallflower than in scum hunting.

So far this day phase all he's contributed is a lazy sheep vote against Nomad. I definitely think he's fitting the profile of coasting scum.

Yeah, just like everyone should have moved their vote off nin when I voted there too.

 

[Ty4on]

But the fact is you didn't put that vote down.

You waited until the vote was decided before you did it. Did you have no inclination to do it when the vote went tied?

Um, ya lol

I made that joking "look at all this time" comment at the panicking because we only had five minutes left. I was still doing catch-up and didn't have a plan regarding my vote. Don't really see myself there ever voting for someone I had just made a town read of and at that time it was starting to feel more like nin was scum.

 

[Sorian]

I thought that look at all this time was snark against Kark on his whole thing with monkey and how she couldn't realistically change votes during the 4 minutes after her nin vote on day 2.

 

[Faddy]

Um, ya lol

I made that joking "look at all this time" comment at the panicking because we only had five minutes left. I was still doing catch-up and didn't have a plan regarding my vote. Don't really see myself there ever voting for someone I had just made a town read of and at that time it was starting to feel more like nin was scum.

I thought you were town reading Sorian and held off putting a vote on nin for reasons... So why not just vote straight away?

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Yeah, just like everyone should have moved their vote off nin when I voted there too.

You made it very apparent that the only reason you were voting Nin was for self-preservation, and that you otherwise thought town was making a mistake.

Cool it with the revisionist history.

 

[Ty4on]

I thought you were town reading Sorian and held off putting a vote on nin for reasons... So why not just vote straight away?

Because at the time I wanted to vote for him it would've put him at 6, majority 7 and with the recent momentum it felt like a reasonably stable wagon so I went back to reading the thread.

 

[Faddy]

Because at the time I wanted to vote for him it would've put him at 6, majority 7 and with the recent momentum it felt like a reasonably stable wagon so I went back to reading the thread.

What kind of an excuse is this? You didn't vote for your lynch target because they might get turbo'd with less than an hour until the deadline? Leaving things until the last minute is bad play, all it does is give people an out that they had to do *something* due to time pressure.

You posted after the vote was tied.

 

[Sorian]

You made it very apparent that the only reason you were voting Nin was for self-preservation, and that you otherwise thought town was making a mistake.

Cool it with the revisionist history.

No I didn't? I did point out that all of my end of day votes were self-pres ones but I never said voting nin was a mistake. I even voted nin on day 2 well before deadline hoping he would get off the ground then had to switch to Crimson to protect myself.

Sounds like you are revisionist.