Spectator Thread 999 and Mini Mafia V Spectator Thread

CaptainNuevo

CaptainNuevo

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Welcome to the Spectator Thread for 999 and Mini Mafia 5. There are like... 994 games that happen in between and I'm glad you're all here to watch and discuss each and every one of them.

Please remember that while these threads are closed during the games, they will become open after. as such, anything you say here can be read by the players later on, so please keep it respectful. Enjoy the games!
 
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turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I haven't played the 999 games, this setup makes me think they are complex :p
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
During the 2nd phase do players from a room have read access to the other room?
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
turmoil7 said:
During the 2nd phase do players from a room have read access to the other room?
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No. It is all blind.

I'm surprised by the voting questions. In a room of four for someone to get a majority all 3 survivors need to vote. In a room of 5 there are 3 guaranteed survivors so at leat one of them isn't mafia.
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I guess us spec goons will attain read access to both, right?

I guess I understood this, it is just like the mirror in mansion but with the difference of the players themselves voting for the precise distribution instead of RNGing it.

Did you come up with this setup yourself or it is adapted from some game?
 
Reki

Reki

Hi everyone! Pumped to watch the 999 game since I have yet to play that franchise but a friend of mine constantly talks about it.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
turmoil7 said:
I guess us spec goons will attain read access to both, right?

I guess I understood this, it is just like the mirror in mansion but with the difference of the players themselves voting for the precise distribution instead of RNGing it.

Did you come up with this setup yourself or it is adapted from some game?
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The setup for a mafia game is my idea but the general design of how to pick doors is straight from the video game 999.


Reki said:
Hi everyone! Pumped to watch the 999 game since I have yet to play that franchise but a friend of mine constantly talks about it.
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Hey! This game has minimal spoilers so you won't have any of the big game moments ruined.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
So I'll post about a few ways the game can pan out.

For town the best thing that can happen is they separate the mafia into different rooms and exclude both of them for a crushing win

For mafia they can win after the 2nd selection phase. If there are 6 players alive and are in the same room they auto win.

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They are talking about the number of excludes town has.

The first two Exclusion phases are going to be in split rooms. So town has a total of 4 excludes. Mafia get 2 expulsions. Meaning that as long as they hit one mafia in the first 4 we get a final 3.

If they NE once in the first two Exclusion phases they still need to hit one mafia but with only 3 excludes. We get to a final 4 and then town can No Exclude to get to a final 3.

But if they NE twice in the first two Exclusion phases no matter who dies it guarantees the game going to a final 5 where all living players will be in one room.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
LOL forgot to mention what happens if it is a tie. I really should have put that somewhere.

If the vote ties I'll randomly pick between the tied options.
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Something interesting in this setup is that there will be situations with only 3 and 4 players, I have never seen a big game reaching a stage of having so few players, usually a team wins before that.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
turmoil7 said:
Something interesting in this setup is that there will be situations with only 3 and 4 players, I have never seen a big game reaching a stage of having so few players, usually a team wins before that.
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There have been a few recent games that got below 5 players. Kingdom Hearts most recently iirc

That was part of the motivation to make the game, to get people in really small situations are see how it plays out.

There is a very different tone to conversation between the two rooms. I wonder if that is just personalities or the different number of players. Choosing not to exclude is gaining a lot of traction in room 5 while it hasn't even come up in room 4.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Flux trying to work out all the options and all the potential pitfalls is warming my heart.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I may as well reveal in here, unsurprisingly empressdonna was town!
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Only 1 vote all phase from room 5.

They are cutting it pretty fine to decide on anything
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Nolunch defeats lunch in case of a tie, such a situation never crossed my mind previous to this game but this was interesting.

I wonder if that was a good play(if verelios is town at all)
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
turmoil7 said:
Nolunch defeats lunch in case of a tie, such a situation never crossed my mind previous to this game but this was interesting.

I wonder if that was a good play(if verelios is town at all)
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If you followed what Flux was saying ....and what I badly explained above... if No Exclude once then you have to No Exclude again in the next phase to have the best chance.

Doing 3 excludes in the first 4 is the worst scenario since town loses if they get them all wrong. That ends up at 4 living players and 2 alive mafia win.

If they No Exclude once more it guarantees another phase and no more room nonsense to deal with.
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Yeah, I see it, this is counterintuitive for the traditional mafia book
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
turmoil7 said:
Yeah, I see it, this is counterintuitive for the traditional mafia book
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Kind of. But there are plenty of times it is the right call to no lynch. Although that can be tougher to deduce in closed games where players don't know the roles.

With 7 alive it is going to be a room of 4 and a room of 3. It will probably come down to putting the scummiest people in the room of 3 since there are 2 guaranteed town players in the other room to vote for No One.

I'm looking forward to seeing the arguments for who goes where since the Rooms took such different tones this phase.

I have done the math on the provisional mafia Exclusion and there are some real spicy combinations.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Stuart444 said:
Enjoying the costume game so far. It may be quiet but it's fun to watch.
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Costume is always interesting. Even if you sort of know who someone is it gets a lot of ego out the way.

I think the game is building nicely.
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
I think it’s really really interesting that my main scum read is completely glossed over.

I was scum reading fluxwavez pretty hard during the whole OM thread...

And Natiko is completely missing it, bronsonlee and Kopite haven’t posted about it either, but they also haven’t pointed out that Natiko has posted seemingly every bit of my arguments except for that.


Current guess is natiko and Fluxwavez as scum
 
Fireblend

Fireblend

ABLF
Finally caught up on the game I'm supposed to be co-running, had a busy Saturday :P thanks Stu for handling the replacement and vote counts so far.

Love some of the identity mind games going on.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I stop watching 999 for a couple of hours and then the game gets lit.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
This is really funny. Flux is arguing for a room of 3 with himself, Natiko and Kopite.

Nat and Kopite are both scum reading him.

Flux isn't wholly thinking this through.
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
I agree it’s a turbo with 0 immediate consequences. Why not just do it.

I have only played two games with bronsonlee, but I like the cut of his jib. Turbo when it doesn’t matter, dont be afraid

By you all know I am very pro turbo (regardless of my alignment)
 
Fireblend

Fireblend

ABLF
I don't want to give much away about the mini mafia setup... But I'm really interested in seeing what's happening this night >_>
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Faddy said:
This is really funny. Flux is arguing for a room of 3 with himself, Natiko and Kopite.

Nat and Kopite are both scum reading him.

Flux isn't wholly thinking this through.
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Chef Kiss
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

Faddy said:
if Natiko is town?

c'mon dude, he just hammered you out of hand... there is no way? Right!
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Straight up, my last words were merely a form of gambit. I wasn't going to stray from what town wanted, I was going to end up voting for Kopite. I just wanted to see how they both would react to my proposal, to better see if Natiko could actually be town, and if Kopite could actually be scum.

I didn't even place a vote; that was bad play by Natiko. I was ready to die in there anyways, but just as long as we had more information about everyone in there. And yet Natiko just ended it.

So now, if one of them is indeed town, it's going to be a huge mess.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
FluxWaveZ said:
Straight up, my last words were merely a form of gambit. I wasn't going to stray from what town wanted, I was going to end up voting for Kopite. I just wanted to see how they both would react to my proposal, to better see if Natiko could actually be town, and if Kopite could actually be scum.

I didn't even place a vote; that was bad play by Natiko. I was ready to die in there anyways, but just as long as we had more information about everyone in there. And yet Natiko just ended it.

So now, if one of them is indeed town, it's going to be a huge mess.
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Do you think Natiko and Kopite will see it that way?

You said you wanted to Exclude Kopite. If both stay in the game they will say you made a move on Natiko. Both already thought you were scum before entering the room.
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

Faddy said:
Do you think Natiko and Kopite will see it that way?

You said you wanted to Exclude Kopite. If both stay in the game they will say you made a move on Natiko. Both already thought you were scum before entering the room.
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They're both going to justify the exclusion because of what I apparently said, of course.

But what I said doesn't matter: with the plan we spent the whole phase putting into motion, and now the result being a town flip, people are going to be throwing daggers at both of them. What they claim I said will be meaningless, they could be making it all up. The narrative of them being a scum team together will be reinforced.

So if even one of them is town yet still went against everything we said, well, they screwed up big time. We agreed on this entire plan for this specific reason, and yet it was thrown into chaos immediately. Even town should be willing to self-sacrifice if Kopite was town, for all of us.

If they're both town, they gave scum the win on a silver platter.
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

I think I was being too selfless, and thought the others would be as well. I thought that there's no way town would deviate from the plan, and that only scum would. I should have known it never works that cleanly.
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

Wonder who you are. Now to check out Mini Mafia 5. A costume game sounds fun; I hope to participate in one one day.

@Zippedpinhead What made me seem so scummy? This is the hardest I've ever tried to be level-headed, consider all possibilities, and determine what would be best for town, while trying to scum hunt. Doesn't seem like I'm improving.
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
FluxWaveZ said:
Wonder who you are. Now to check out Mini Mafia 5. A costume game sounds fun; I hope to participate in one one day.

@Zippedpinhead What made me seem so scummy? This is the hardest I've ever tried to be level-headed, consider all possibilities, and determine what would be best for town, while trying to scum hunt. Doesn't seem like I'm improving.
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It was the flip to a room no one had voted for day 1. It happened quickly and you were the one who started it. I know spoilers now though, so looking at what happened then under the knowledge I have now makes more sense.

Spoilers make this game make WAY more sense... just FYI
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
FluxWaveZ said:
Make me scum in the next game for once so I can actually use what's apparently my natural inclination.
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My best games are when I’m scum. Because scum stop using me as “he acts so scummy he MUST be scum” as an excuse.

How long has it been since you were scum?
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

Zippedpinhead said:
My best games are when I’m scum. Because scum stop using me as “he acts so scummy he MUST be scum” as an excuse.

How long has it been since you were scum?
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There's only 1 game where I started off as scum, and that was Danganronpa 3. Naturally, I lived until the end there.
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

Oh wait, I mentally blocked Wolf 2, where we almost won but then we all screwed ourselves right at the end with premature celebration.
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
FluxWaveZ said:
Oh wait, I mentally blocked Wolf 2, where we almost won but then we all screwed ourselves right at the end with premature celebration.
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Wolf 2 truly was a crazy crazy game. In the same season as wolf 1 (obviously) and Harry Potter. I was in 2/3 of the games that season and each was wild
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

Gah, I'm still not over it. You know in heist movies where they're all "stick to the plan," and then someone deviates from the plan and it all goes to hell?

I'm not gonna take the blame for that one, either. If Natiko's town, then even if I did go along with my bluff and went to vote him out, and Kopite went along with it, then I'd likely have been excluded anyways. That was the plan we all agreed on and spent the whole phase deliberating! And regardless of what I do, at least let the phase play out instead of turboing when there's been no discussion! If I were scum, chatting with me would still tell you some things. It makes no sense, except for just swinging on emotion, which is always the wrong move.

On the plus side, this will make the next discussion phase pretty entertaining. On the negative side, town lost.
 
Lance

Lance

I think I was probably pretty obvious but we'll see if anyone knows who I am!

I have guesses myself about identities.

ETA: AND I WAS RIGHT ABOUT KEN, TOO? DAMN! I mean, yay me, but also... damn. I hope they listen to me.

Makes me wonder about Trevor here. That waffle at the end "gee I could go either way" made me suspicious but

I think Trevor is Fanto and the waffle makes more sense there as town, with a lower chance of scum, if that's correct. I think Huang is not Fanto, as is the popular guess, and is someone pretending to be Fanto. OR Trevor is Sorian in a very clever acting gig. But that's just paranoia. I think if Trevor is scum, Asuka could be scum with them, accusing me of what they were doing, but I'd have to go back and look at when votes started moving. I might if I want to try to solve but right now I'm gonna just be salty that I got N1ed.
 
Michael

Michael

Oh hey @Lance. Sad to see you here.
I'm sorry I screwed up. Guess I gave everyone too many reasons to either fault me or doubt me lol.

On one hand I'm pissed town had to waste a bullet on Ken when we could've lynched him, on the other one... I was afraid just lynching Ken wouldn't have given Town a lot to go by on day 2, while this looks more interesting. I hope it pays off.
 
Michael

Michael

Mmh is it normal that I still see the box with the textarea to post in the Mini Mafia topic? Didn't try to post, so maybe if I try it doesn't work, just letting you guys know that.
 
Fireblend

Fireblend

ABLF
Welcome, recently deceased! Some really interesting stuff happened during the night and I can't wait to see what claims we get/don't get today.
 
Lance

Lance

Michael said:
Oh hey @Lance. Sad to see you here.
I'm sorry I screwed up. Guess I gave everyone too many reasons to either fault me or doubt me lol.

On one hand I'm pissed town had to waste a bullet on Ken when we could've lynched him, on the other one... I was afraid just lynching Ken wouldn't have given Town a lot to go by on day 2, while this looks more interesting. I hope it pays off.
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Nah, killing Ken is great. They don't waste a lynch that it's easy for scum to jump on and instead can go right to digging into who orchestrated that bullshit yesterday. There was no way that swing was on the up and up. woeiroiejargioia ugh
 
Lance

Lance

My guess is that it was Swamped who swapped out? Obviously Stan came in.

I think Asuka is Godfather. I want to know who Huang is, since it's not Fanto (kinda confessed now I see). Which means Trevor IS Fanto. Too many possibilities to pull the Huang prank. I think maybe WSD is Carl? That's kind of a shot in the dark guess, though.
 
Stuart444

Stuart444

Lance said:
My guess is that it was Swamped who swapped out? Obviously Stan came in.

I think Asuka is Godfather. I want to know who Huang is, since it's not Fanto (kinda confessed now I see). Which means Trevor IS Fanto. Too many possibilities to pull the Huang prank. I think maybe WSD is Carl? That's kind of a shot in the dark guess, though.
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Do you want confirms/denials or are you happy with just the speculation for now?
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
I wonder who 999 scum is going to eliminate.

It’s not going to be one of the two from the 3 person room.

So that leaves the other group. My money is on Verelios (60% sure). Remaining (40%) thinks it will be Apollo.
 
Lance

Lance

Ken said:
Well that was frustrating.
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Tell me about it.

My tinfoil hat scum is still Trevor, which would also be funny - but I also think he would have not offed me n1 since I had him as town.

I'll make my real scum guesses tomorrow. Right now I'd be leaning hard on Catalina, I think.

identity spec:
New guess is Sorian is Asuka and kitsunelaine is Catalina. Franklin is Godfather.
 
Lance

Lance

More identity spec
Hmm, maybe I'm wrong on Godfather with recent posts. I'd have guessed Muffin, but not with being in Vegas, so yeah, Godfather or maybe LP. Maybe. I don't know who Kyan is and that's killing me, unless Kyan is Niko? But I figure Niko is a new person from putting votes in mid-sentence.
 
Stuart444

Stuart444

Lance said:
Tell me about it.

My tinfoil hat scum is still Trevor, which would also be funny - but I also think he would have not offed me n1 since I had him as town.

I'll make my real scum guesses tomorrow. Right now I'd be leaning hard on Catalina, I think.

identity spec:
New guess is Sorian is Asuka and kitsunelaine is Catalina. Franklin is Godfather.
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Right on 1, wrong on 2, right on 3.
 
Ken

Ken

Sorry Lance. Asuka spelled it out in the game thread that you were pretty much the safe second option for the NK. Smartest thing I did all game, apparently.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Which is nice because now we move into what could be the final phase and the 5 remaining players will be entering the number 9 door.

1 + 4 + 6 + 7 + 9 = 27
2 + 7 = 9
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

I'm not the one who threw the game! It's called a BLUFF.

I didn't know I was faced with a shoot first, ask questions later strategist.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
So there is a vote on Natiko by saenima and everyone has/is posting.

Therefore there is at least 1 mafia between them.
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

saenima totally got me if he's scum, well done. He's the one I suspected the least. I suppose that's what it'd feel like to be pocketed.
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

I don't get it. Natiko's talking like he actually thought he was in danger of getting excluded that phase when no one had placed a vote on him, and they're talking about going off-script when Kopite's the one who launched it.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Natiko is being a bit reserved here.

He should be attacking sae more here, they should be confirmed mafia to him. Take the line that how could he be sure it was him that was scum and not kopite.
 
FluxWaveZ

FluxWaveZ

Zippedpinhead said:
And then I think you realize who is scum...
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Hm... The way our little room went down, I felt like that was no longer the case for some reason. But it'd make a lot of sense if Kopite was town and Natiko is scum. Actually, that would explain why he hammered like that in the first place.
 
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BronsonLee

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