Spectator Thread Twilight Zone Watch Party

[heymonkey]

why do they think anyone would know if someone tried to recruit them? tsk

STOP ASSUMING THINGS, FOLKS

 

[Z-beat]

More like they’re just being care free because they think they have the game solved.

That's exactly what I meant by "high on a double kill"

Zeke trying to find the recruit is ironic

 

[Z-beat]

I don't think we can count this as a scum win if we make it. Wee killed the doctor, ynnek and fant confirmed fireblend, WSD might end up converting Zeke, and Zeke might inadvertently kill a town trying to find the recruit.

Perfect episode for it

 

[heymonkey]

Welcome, @Ynnek7!

 

[heymonkey]

I don't think we can count this as a scum win if we make it. Wee killed the doctor, ynnek and fant confirmed fireblend, WSD might end up converting Zeke, and Zeke might inadvertently kill a town trying to find the recruit.

Perfect episode for it

 

[heymonkey]

I'm gonna be off for a bit so if they turbo or something, just grab a mod!

 

[Pedro]

Whenever you're feeling down, when you are about to make a hard life decision, when you get out of your bed and get ready to start your day, when you receive a good hug from a loved one, always remember:

Town will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory​

I'm not even talking about the Townies in this current game, that's just how the universe mantains its balance, and that's okay.

 

[Z-beat]

Maybe they'll pull it off. Either way this was a hell of a game

 

[Ynnek7]

Heya, all!

Holy crap at those early spoilers, lol.

 

[heymonkey]

I...don’t understand why VA is lying here. I guess not realizing that his is definitely a role you claim. ESPECIALLY with this flavor.

Spoiler: VA’s role

He is a beloved child.

 

[Z-beat]

That's a bold strategy

 

[weemadarthur]

I PUT IN BREADCRUMBS FOR HOW THE ROLE WORKS DAMMIT AND COMMUTING IS NOT A COMMAND GO BACK AND READ ME YOU COWARDS

And stop thinking claiming matters, omg sometimes i hate town lol.

*hugs vincent alexander* cause you look like you really need one about now.

 

[Olinad]

Hum sorry to ask, but I couldn't find it anywhere...

...what's a beloved child? :3

 

[weemadarthur]

I’d like to point out that knowing mafia would kill a cop is a PROOF of my being psychic.
Just like all the claims are confirmed.

 

[weemadarthur]

Hum sorry to ask, but I couldn't find it anywhere...

...what's a beloved child? :3

“Beloved”
Is a modifier that generally means it takes one extra vote over majority to vote out the player.

“Child”
Is a role where the game runner posts that they are town. Usually i’ve seen it called innocent child, but whatever. I guess there’s a hidden command for it? The player is sometimes in charge of the timing, other games they just get outed lol.

 

[weemadarthur]

Course if it takes a command sent to monkey and she’s away....lol.

 

[Olinad]

Ooh right.
...so I guess he's playing this dangerous game so that he can just trigger the mod confirmation if it goes bad?

 

[weemadarthur]

Ooh right.
...so I guess he's playing this dangerous game so that he can just trigger the mod confirmation if it goes bad?

Got me.
Sounds like he is trying to not be night killed because he thinks he has the game solved?

 

[weemadarthur]

Good thing i repeated the daily count, or the whole lot of them would have missed it.

*little mermaid facepalm gif*

 

[heymonkey]

“Beloved”
Is a modifier that generally means it takes one extra vote over majority to vote out the player.

“Child”
Is a role where the game runner posts that they are town. Usually i’ve seen it called innocent child, but whatever. I guess there’s a hidden command for it? The player is sometimes in charge of the timing, other games they just get outed lol.

Nah, that’s loved, not beloved. This is like a beloved princess, just a child for the flavor.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Beloved_Princess

If he gets lynched, we skip a day phase.

 

[Olinad]

Oh wow. That's more risky then. He's literally trying to get himself lynched then.
But there's also just one scum left... mmh let's see where this goes.

 

[heymonkey]

It’s super risky. He just may not realize. I’m not sure.

 

[weemadarthur]

Nah, that’s loved, not beloved. This is like a beloved princess, just a child for the flavor.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Beloved_Princess

If he gets lynched, we skip a day phase.

Ooh, sorry for incorrect thing.

Why the heck would he be trying to get lynched tho? Maybe he’s trying not to by making a claim?

 

[heymonkey]

He also just mixed up flavor names. Cappa is gonna nail him to the wall. Wow. Wow. Pedro was right with his quote.



amazing

 

[heymonkey]

For when you get here: VA, it’s okay, buddy. We still love you.

 

[Pedro]

I really don't understand why breadcrumbs have become this necessary thing to play Mafia in this game.

 

[heymonkey]

I really don't understand why breadcrumbs have become this necessary thing to play Mafia in this game.

What's more puzzling is that they realize that mafia can breadcrumb and still promote them.

 

[saenima]

Nah, that’s loved, not beloved. This is like a beloved princess, just a child for the flavor.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Beloved_Princess

If he gets lynched, we skip a day phase.

So we'll skip the night phase If VA is lunched?

 

[Olinad]

So we'll skip the night phase If VA is lunched?

Skip day, so 2 night phases in a row I guess.

 

[heymonkey]

Skip day, so 2 night phases in a row I guess.

yep, two kills in a row.

 

[saenima]

Skip day, so 2 night phases in a row I guess.

yep, two kills in a row.

Oh that's rough.

 

[Olinad]

Technically all night powers are activated twice too. So maybe he believes there's some town role that could benefit from it?

 

[saenima]

Technically all night powers are activated twice too. So maybe he believes there's some town role that could benefit from it?

This could be great if town still had a cop.

 

[weemadarthur]

Maybe ....he thinks he’s a skip-night-phase and therefore mafia-kill role?
Maybe he thinks he’s been recruited?

I’m out of ideas.

*hugs aeleus* you look like you need one too. Zeke has been town in his control of information. He didn’t do anything wrong except be stubborn.

 

[weemadarthur]

What's more puzzling is that they realize that mafia can breadcrumb and still promote them.

AND THEY STILL DON’T GO LOOKING FOR MINE WHICH TELL THEM ONLY COMMANDS GET COUNTED. HAAALP.

 

[Z-beat]

AND THEY STILL DON’T GO LOOKING FOR MINE WHICH TELL THEM ONLY COMMANDS GET COUNTED. HAAALP.

They threw out all of your reads after what happened with saenima

 

[Z-beat]

Fant is especially unwilling to look at them after going in so hard on sae

 

[weemadarthur]

XD

Need zeke to keep on with it. But he appears to have lost interest.

 

[Z-beat]

What's more puzzling is that they realize that mafia can breadcrumb and still promote them.

We breadcrumbed through subliminal messaging to Fant. That's literally ALL we did outside of night kills. The rest was a glorious domino effect

 

[turmoil7]

*

Put an outermafia logo on it

*weemad's breadcrumbs are out of frame

 

[saenima]

In role madness, unverifiable role claims are as good as vanilla townie claims in a normal one, as far as I'm concerned.

Lmao

 

[heymonkey]

Poor LP. His role claim is not going to go well.

Spoiler: LP's role

He's the lone vanilla.

 

[saenima]

Poor LP. His role claim is not going to go well.

Spoiler: LP's role

He's the lone vanilla.

I would just claim neutral survivor at this point.

 

[turmoil7]

Poor LP. His role claim is not going to go well.

Spoiler: LP's role

He's the lone vanilla.

 

[heymonkey]

Well, no matter what happens from here, I'm satisfied with how this has gone. I'm excited to have seen so much interplay within roles and it's definitely a paranoia and misinformation fest. I was worried the scum team would be a little weak, but I hoped the configuration of possible plays would make up for it and here we are.

 

[heymonkey]

VA just messaged me for clarification on his role so maybe he just misunderstood and will clean this up. Hopefully it isn't too late for him. If he gets defenestrated...

 

[turmoil7]

He is SO unlucky his actual role is one town must absolutely not lunch

Backing down will be read as a scum desperation methinks

Time for a second fakeclaim?

 

[heymonkey]

GOOD JOB, VINCENT.

I hope.

CAPPA, I AM DISAPPOINTED IN YOU. KEITH. HONESTLY. YOU SHOULD HAVE JUMPED ON THAT.

 

[Olinad]

Scum are surely going to have to gun for me now

Wow, now I'm curious to see how this will evolve lol.

 

[saenima]

Lmao LP with the casual vanilla.

 

[Olinad]

Is the guy that can send random messages scum or town? That's hilarious lol

 

[Z-beat]

Is the guy that can send random messages scum or town? That's hilarious lol

scum

 

[Olinad]

That's gold then. He made the most out of the coincidence of having sent that message on Night 1 lol

 

[heymonkey]

Is the guy that can send random messages scum or town? That's hilarious lol

Yeah, there's an actual messenger and then there's the hypnotist (Febe) who chooses from a pool of preselected messages (the messages actually come from me based on his targets). It's based on the hypnotist in Town of Salem.

https://town-of-salem.fandom.com/wiki/Hypnotist

 

[heymonkey]

His targeting Fanto twice guarantees Fanto is gonna be mad at me after this game, haha.

 

[Z-beat]

That's gold then. He made the most out of the coincidence of having sent that message on Night 1 lol

Mhm

Saenima's a good choice too.

As for your messages, can I make a suggestion?


"You get the sense someone investigated you last night."

To either fant or wee. If you're right about fant being the partner I want to put pressure on.

he claimed the next day so I'd say that worked out pretty well

 

[Olinad]

Great play :D

 

[Kopite]

Ynnek, were you serious about that Outer Limits reference being a crumb?

 

[Stuart444]

That Vanilla claim. Reminds me of the last role madness game where Vanilla was debated because it was meant to be role madness despite the fact that Vanilla is still technically a role. And there is only one vanilla :P XD

also my breadcrumb now that VA's role has been revealed:

Not overreacting. Merely pointing out the obvious like a child would.

 

[Kopite]

That Vanilla claim. Reminds me of the last role madness game where Vanilla was debated because it was meant to be role madness despite the fact that Vanilla is still technically a role. And there is only one vanilla :P XD

also my breadcrumb now that VA's role has been revealed:

It's a pity you seem to have gone completely out of town consciousness lol

 

[heymonkey]

That Vanilla claim. Reminds me of the last role madness game where Vanilla was debated because it was meant to be role madness despite the fact that Vanilla is still technically a role. And there is only one vanilla :P XD

also my breadcrumb now that VA's role has been revealed:

I hope they remember.

 

[Kopite]

Final scum's lost it poor guy

 

[heymonkey]

And this is only day one of being alone. Imagine by the end of the week!

 

[Kopite]

I'll give him one more day before he pulls a Stuart

 

[weemadarthur]

*

Put an outermafia logo on it

*weemad's breadcrumbs are out of frame

No kidding.
I mean, you’ve seen me leave fake ones a couple of times.
Here I put effort into making real ones that could be easily seen on reread due to sticking out badly as they made no sense as posts....and what a waste of time it was. Back to fake all the way. NAI.

 

[Stuart444]

I'll give him one more day before he pulls a Stuart

LOL

GO Nuts or Go Home

 

[Ynnek7]

Ynnek, were you serious about that Outer Limits reference being a crumb?

At the time, not really, lol. It worked a lot better in hindsight after saenima came up as the Doctor, though.

 

[Kopite]

Confirmed scum puts his two buddies as his top scum?

Fellow scum Z-Beat is chilling in the middle there. VA and Aeleus are sort of in the middle. He has Zeke much higher than Fanto, which is interesting.

I wonder if the neighbours could be recruited. It seems like the sort of thing you'd expect for role madness: have them both start as town but make one recruitable.

Also I wonder if Fanto being hypnotized to sleepwalk to Ynnek was meant to cover for the actual killer, or whether he actually made the kill himself.

LP would've have made good scum this game.

 

[Stuart444]

It feels like everyone is considering Febe confirmed-town now lol.

 

[Z-beat]

It feels like everyone is considering Febe confirmed-town now lol.

Except Aeleus, it seems
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnlySaneMan

 

[Stuart444]

Best scenario for Febe is probably Ael -> LP or vice versa then VA.

Town would be decimated with a double night kill after losing those 2 plus 2 others during the nights after Ael and LP dies.

 

[Stuart444]

Town are done lol.

 

[Kopite]

I think too much needs to go right for Febe. He's a little too confirmed now, so there'll be a bunch of questions on why he isn't getting NK. Revealing he's out of shots will also be a difficult one.

 

[Stuart444]

I think too much needs to go right for Febe. He's a little too confirmed now, so there'll be a bunch of questions on why he isn't getting NK. Revealing he's out of shots will also be a difficult one.

I've thought this.

But I've seen cases of town not asking the all important "Why aren't you dead" in cases where the person is scum.

soooo...

 

[Olinad]

If none of Aeleus, LP, or VA are Scum, then I don't know how to play this game.

I have some bad news then... :)

 

[saenima]

I have some bad news then... :)

If Fire pulls it off, i'm afraid it will break Fanto for good :(

 

[Kopite]

Welcome Aeleus, I thought you played really well this game. Sorry my fakeclaim kinda got you killed earlier than you should've.

 

[turmoil7]

If Fire pulls it off, i'm afraid it will break Fanto for good :(

Front seats again

 

[heymonkey]

I think too much needs to go right for Febe. He's a little too confirmed now, so there'll be a bunch of questions on why he isn't getting NK. Revealing he's out of shots will also be a difficult one.

It depends on them reassessing. They aren't reassessing yet. We'll see what happens tomorrow, though.

 

[Natiko]

I really don't understand why breadcrumbs have become this necessary thing to play Mafia in this game.

I literally never breadcrumb. I always find them kinda lame - if you’re town then you’re just sprinkling reasons to get yourself killed. I feel like mafia have more incentive than anyone to breadcrumb for a fake claim. Generally makes me not put much stock in them.

 

[Natiko]

Welcome @Aeleus

 

[heymonkey]

Welcome, @Aeleus! You did your best and we enjoyed watching.

 

[Aeleus]

I knew that there was something off about fireblend!

(I totally would have ignored him and lost though)

 

[heymonkey]

Now you get to hang out with us and watch. :)

 

[Z-beat]

So since you're dead that means two nights, I suppose

 

[Aeleus]

Also, for those who want it, a spoilery thing (reveals something about game design)

Spoiler: spoilery stuff

There is a hypnotist who sent a message to someone saying "you were investigated last night." Hilariously, that person was actually investigated last night by someone else.

I'm not kidding when I say I almost put in a conspiracy theory that fireblend is scum who recruited fantomas and the stuff talking about hypnotising was a lie, but I dismissed it when I remembered Fanto had actually been investigated lol

 

[Z-beat]

Ah wait that's VA

 

[Z-beat]

I'm not kidding when I say I almost put in a conspiracy theory that fireblend is scum who recruited fantomas and the stuff talking about hypnotising was a lie, but I dismissed it when I remembered Fanto had actually been investigated lol

Spoiler

Zeke is the recruit, he's also not recruited (yet), we planted the message on fan. Kinda ironic that he killed you for being the potential recruit.

 

[heymonkey]

I don't think the recruit will happen and I'm so sad about it.

 

[Z-beat]

I don't think the recruit will happen and I'm so sad about it.

Did cause some paranoia though. My presence remains, lingering over the game, like a silent fart in a crowded elevator, driving you mad

 

[heymonkey]

Did cause some paranoia though. My presence remains, lingering over the game, like a silent fart in a crowded elevator, driving you mad

Pretty sure you and my husband would be -best- friends.

 

[Aeleus]

I think fireblends got this as long as he can keep his morale going, at least if we get to Zeke we might get scum there (does he know he's the recruitment target)

 

[Z-beat]

I think fireblends got this as long as he can keep his morale going, at least if we get to Zeke we might get scum there (does he know he's the recruitment target)

If I understand it right, he doesn't, making his concern with the recruit hilarious

 

[weemadarthur]

I literally never breadcrumb. I always find them kinda lame - if you’re town then you’re just sprinkling reasons to get yourself killed. I feel like mafia have more incentive than anyone to breadcrumb for a fake claim. Generally makes me not put much stock in them.

It’s also a great move for a town bulletproof, or perhaps the very important Motion Detector.

Or maybe I just like making fake breadcrumbs and then spinning it.

 

[heymonkey]

He does not know he could be potentially recruited. They should all, however, be asking why they are neighbors and not masons.

 

[Z-beat]

The idea is breadcrumbing hints that are so vague that they're only available to you until you claim. That way you don't get targeted

 

[weemadarthur]

The idea is breadcrumbing hints that are so vague that they're only available to you until you claim. That way you don't get targeted

I’ve done that.
I got told it wasn’t even a breadcrumb, more of a mote.

It was probably a lie anyway tho.

 

[Natiko]

It’s also a great move for a town bulletproof, or perhaps the very important Motion Detector.

Or maybe I just like making fake breadcrumbs and then spinning it.

Trying to bait a NK attempt/scum PR visit and breadcrumbing your actual role are pretty different situations to be fair.

The idea is breadcrumbing hints that are so vague that they're only available to you until you claim. That way you don't get targeted

Sure, and when those hints are so vague that it could easily be argued you're mafia that was seeding a fake claim so obscurely that you wouldn't risk being counterclaimed in advance? I just don't think it does much for me. It's NAI in a large majority of cases unless an additional player can verify your claim.

 

[Z-beat]

Sure, and when those hints are so vague that it could easily be argued you're mafia that was seeding a fake claim so obscurely that you wouldn't risk being counterclaimed in advance? I just don't think it does much for me. It's NAI in a large majority of cases unless an additional player can verify your claim.

Thing is, it's hard to disprove something like "I AM A DOCTOR" spelled out with all the capital letters in your post.

Or you can go all Series of Unfortunate Events with it and use spelling errors

 

[Natiko]

Thing is, it's hard to disprove something like "I AM A DOCTOR" spelled out with all the capital letters in your post.

Or you can go all Series of Unfortunate Events with it and use spelling errors

Those examples are ones more likely to be caught then not. Like I said, I think it’s just a risk not worth taking as town. It doesn’t “prove” anything.