Ty4on
The 4 is silent
With a vote on a nobody :|
Scum Thread The Evil Bears Suite
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Z-beat
only here for the flavor
You missed that whole thing early on then, eh?
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Yeah, I was offline till a half hour ago
A lot... you missed a lot.
Oh yeah, sorry for missing this post before EoD, but yeah no way I could give up that position.
Okay, so we have a ninja kill we should use tonight. Ty4on and I are under scrutiny, so all the more reason to use it now.
Role-cop: Who?
Role-block: Who?
Role-cop: Who?
Role-block: Who?
Jesus we really made it out the depths of hell. Surprised with 2/3 of the lynch trains being scum they managed to hit the town one lol
I'd guess there's a chat blocker. Everyone has a private lover's chat so everyone can be a valid target. Could be a neutral power. Block so many scum, so many town. I dunno.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Neutral feels a bit... old? That was how it was LB1 iirc
So, ninja kill: Frandorin? Fluxzil? Zippedomas?
This is my first LB, so I have no idea what the other two looked like. I just don't see why town would have a power that steals someone from a lover's chat. (If Pirate Bae had been town)
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Sorian
Sorian would be the meme, but I kind of feel there are better candidates. Frandorin being the first since Fran is so suspicious of several scum teams, but that might be a little obvious while Stu is alive. He doesn't let old reads die.
we could kill Dr. Monkey/Stuart, but they had enough suspicion early on.
we could kill Dr. Monkey/Stuart, but they had enough suspicion early on.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Maybe. Sorian would get a lot of flak post our flip bc of his heavy defense.
I am trying to think whose death would move suspicion away from us and towards someone town. The problem is that two f the three real contender votes were scum and the last is dead.
RIP Kitsunelaine and Kalor. We didn't want to do it. ;_;
RIP Kitsunelaine and Kalor. We didn't want to do it. ;_;
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
As for blocking, tracking, and checking I have no clue.
@Terraforce Did you ever come up with what we should fake claim if we’re seen moving? Might impact who we target
@Terraforce Did you ever come up with what we should fake claim if we’re seen moving? Might impact who we target
Kill Brazil if possible, dude is too good a player to keep around
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Correct
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So essentially malus you need to submit the command as close to the deadline as you can.
Also, anyone have thoughts on who we should target for all our stuff?
Check:
Block:
Kill:
I also kinda wonder if we shouldn’t just use the ninja tonight since Tybro will be under suspicion for sure.
Also, anyone have thoughts on who we should target for all our stuff?
Check:
Block:
Kill:
I also kinda wonder if we shouldn’t just use the ninja tonight since Tybro will be under suspicion for sure.
Z-beat
only here for the flavor
That was my thought, yeah.
Yeah, we definitely should use the ninja kill tonight before we lose it. In that regard, I think we should kill one of the more high profile boats tonight. If someone is going to use a watcher power, it's going to be after a day phase like that one. Frandorin wouldn't be a terrible choice, although it would mean we need to keep an eye on the Dr. Monkey/Stuart boat. Stuart is one of the more dogged players when it comes to building on the reads of dead town players, and Fran got uncomfortably close. Fantopinhead we can put off I think. Zipped tends to engage more as the player base thins out, but that means we have a few more days pending whatever other night actions happen. BrawaveZ is an option, since after our argument I feel like if the Motion Detector suspects Ty4on and I, we or BraWaveZ will be under watch (depending on what kind of Motion Detector it is).
Checking... I would be inclined to check the SkyOdin/TheChuggernaut boat. I feel like checking the high profile groups doesn't get us much as they tend to become either kill or lynch targets faster than middle to quiet boats (last day phase not withstanding). TheChuggernaut is damn good at scum hunting, and while I'm not super familiar with SkyOdin, I think the two work well together. We need to know how much extra information they can actually get. Much like the ninja kill, finding out who is and is not a PR should be done early, as results could impact kill order.
Block: S-Dubs? Fantopinhead? This is harder, I think. I feel like S-Dubs is probably a good choice not just because meme-Sorian, but Sorian is the only one that said anything about catching the breadcrumb. If he's the real cop, he wouldn't just immediately counter-claim until he had more. Verollo is also a good choice, I think. Verelios said he's town reading me and I don't think he liked FluxWaveZ being okay with a tie vote. Could help us get vote out BrawaveZ.
Checking... I would be inclined to check the SkyOdin/TheChuggernaut boat. I feel like checking the high profile groups doesn't get us much as they tend to become either kill or lynch targets faster than middle to quiet boats (last day phase not withstanding). TheChuggernaut is damn good at scum hunting, and while I'm not super familiar with SkyOdin, I think the two work well together. We need to know how much extra information they can actually get. Much like the ninja kill, finding out who is and is not a PR should be done early, as results could impact kill order.
Block: S-Dubs? Fantopinhead? This is harder, I think. I feel like S-Dubs is probably a good choice not just because meme-Sorian, but Sorian is the only one that said anything about catching the breadcrumb. If he's the real cop, he wouldn't just immediately counter-claim until he had more. Verollo is also a good choice, I think. Verelios said he's town reading me and I don't think he liked FluxWaveZ being okay with a tie vote. Could help us get vote out BrawaveZ.
Sorry for not posting again. Forgot I had a team to tend to lol.
My vote for Block is S-Dubs like AB said, or Dr. Stu. The latter in particular I could see being a prime mislynch target if they can't do anything for a night. The ninja I'm feeling should be saved for a low key pair, like Kyan as my partner recommended. From my experience Stan has a slow ramp and is super helpful in the late game, but not as much in the early game. Same goes for Geno, so I don't think we should look there either. Most of the biggest talkers of D1 were also the biggest suspects, so I wouldn't mind just clearing out the quiet peeps for tonight.
The Check off can go wherever honestly. A bit early to say unless someone noticed some crumbing I overlooked. If I had to choose, I would go with the same options as my block, only the inverse option (block one, check the other). Brazil is also a pick I could vibe with for checking. Can't tell if he's uncharacteristically quiet solely due to irl stuff going on, or if he's adapting to his new role.
On the topic of claiming, honestly roleblocker doesn't give many options. I've come clean as roleblocker in prior games since it's a NAI role, but it's hella situational. Jailer was my safest bet unless you @Natiko wanted to go crazy and go stupid with some wild gambits. Don't know what else you had in mind, but I'd rather go safer for now.
My vote for Block is S-Dubs like AB said, or Dr. Stu. The latter in particular I could see being a prime mislynch target if they can't do anything for a night. The ninja I'm feeling should be saved for a low key pair, like Kyan as my partner recommended. From my experience Stan has a slow ramp and is super helpful in the late game, but not as much in the early game. Same goes for Geno, so I don't think we should look there either. Most of the biggest talkers of D1 were also the biggest suspects, so I wouldn't mind just clearing out the quiet peeps for tonight.
The Check off can go wherever honestly. A bit early to say unless someone noticed some crumbing I overlooked. If I had to choose, I would go with the same options as my block, only the inverse option (block one, check the other). Brazil is also a pick I could vibe with for checking. Can't tell if he's uncharacteristically quiet solely due to irl stuff going on, or if he's adapting to his new role.
On the topic of claiming, honestly roleblocker doesn't give many options. I've come clean as roleblocker in prior games since it's a NAI role, but it's hella situational. Jailer was my safest bet unless you @Natiko wanted to go crazy and go stupid with some wild gambits. Don't know what else you had in mind, but I'd rather go safer for now.
No, I meant as in block S-Dubs, check Dr. Stu, or vice versa. Not both on the same pair.
That being said, I came up with the claim independent of the target and didn't think about it until I was going it over in my head later that we need to consider our block with more scrutiny to match up with our in thread claims/reads.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
After some vote analysis prep for tomorrow I think I'm pretty firmly against an S-Dubs or Fanto/Zipped kill as they both look atrocious the moment Tybro flip scum.
I personally think we should go for something like -
Check: BraWaveZ or Rekibro - basically check a boat I could see us NKing soon just to help us prioritize our kills more than anything
Block: Dr. Stu (I townread them in the thread, Terra was undecided, and I can say if pressed about it that I was convinced by the vote analysis that Sorian would be found out as scum and him going so hard against Monkey convinced me she was town and deserving of protection)
Ninja Kill: fran/fando OR kyan/donna just depending on preference. Personally if we kill fran/fando I think we can let tybro get voted out and that scum flip may help hand wave away Fran's other reads, but again I can see why there might be concern about doing that and instead could see kyan/donna go for low info
I personally think we should go for something like -
Check: BraWaveZ or Rekibro - basically check a boat I could see us NKing soon just to help us prioritize our kills more than anything
Block: Dr. Stu (I townread them in the thread, Terra was undecided, and I can say if pressed about it that I was convinced by the vote analysis that Sorian would be found out as scum and him going so hard against Monkey convinced me she was town and deserving of protection)
Ninja Kill: fran/fando OR kyan/donna just depending on preference. Personally if we kill fran/fando I think we can let tybro get voted out and that scum flip may help hand wave away Fran's other reads, but again I can see why there might be concern about doing that and instead could see kyan/donna go for low info
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Kill: I would maybe consider TheSkyChugger. Chuggs had pretty much the whole scum team down in his readlist. It's probably early enough that people won't pay too much attention to that and just assume a low info kill. Other options I could see are BraWaveZ or Frandorin. Frandorin may be a bit risky since it will throw quite a bit of suspicion on Ab4on due to both of them voting there.
Check: If we're not going to kill BraWaveZ I would consider checking them. As was said already, Brazil was in my opinion unusually quiet and could be flying under the radar to not bring attention to him. Other than that maybe some other pair that hasn't pulled much attention.
Block: Basically the same as Check.
Btw about the role blocker: Does it block the pair or only one player of the pair?
Check: If we're not going to kill BraWaveZ I would consider checking them. As was said already, Brazil was in my opinion unusually quiet and could be flying under the radar to not bring attention to him. Other than that maybe some other pair that hasn't pulled much attention.
Block: Basically the same as Check.
Btw about the role blocker: Does it block the pair or only one player of the pair?
Might as well kill Frandorin. If necessary, we can then let Pirate Malus throw us under the bus to solidify their role cop claim.
Sorry guys, got new job thats 9-12, trying to catch up now
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Everything should count as targeting the pair I’m pretty sure.
I mean, we know of at least one thing that doesnt. It might be the single exception though.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, I think that’s probably the exception not the rule. I suppose I could be wrong.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
We have less than 2.5 hours - we need to get actions down just to be safe.
@Terraforce If you want a different choice you can override mine
@Terraforce If you want a different choice you can override mine
Ninja Maul: Fandorin
Z-beat
only here for the flavor
I feel like this'll fail
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Oh no that ain't good
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
In what sense?
Well this is a pretty great role to pluck out. The bad news is I would not be at all surprised to see Fando be the one they were protecting unless they believe Bae.
Meh, just a messenger role who cares. Probably best to not hide it though.
Z-beat
only here for the flavor
Ominous, I like it
going to feed animals, brb. right now just want to say coolest/z-beat should probably be up front about the message. Also, we know who to block N2 now.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I would just say you received a message during the night from another player. If people press for what it said go ahead and paraphrase. It’s not a gamerunner message or anything so there’s not much to take away from it other than there’s a role that sends messages.
Holy crap we did, yes. Killed the Vig and found the Doctor. Doctor is a great role to sit a blocker on since they don't get a report back (unless their target dies, naturally).
Z-beat
only here for the flavor
What an odd question to ask on why not Bae. It's obvious why not Bae. First up, they were fairly close to killing her D1, and there's no reason to waste a night kill on a target more likely to die by accident.
I think they're asking why because they're trying to fish for answers on the 2nd most obvious reason: because she's an obvious target she'd also be the target of a protection role should the person with that role think she's telling the truth. That line of questioning making that role public knowledge early on can only hurt town so I'd probably suspect Vincent on those grounds for bringing it up.
I think they're asking why because they're trying to fish for answers on the 2nd most obvious reason: because she's an obvious target she'd also be the target of a protection role should the person with that role think she's telling the truth. That line of questioning making that role public knowledge early on can only hurt town so I'd probably suspect Vincent on those grounds for bringing it up.
Man, Brazil seems super agro this game for some reason.
I'm down with that. I know from experience as town that losing powerful PRs back to back can be pretty demoralizing.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’m not worried about it. Bae having to pull from the exact same playbook as MafiEra is going to bite her eventually.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Hi
Kyan and Donna are the gossips. Not jailers, do not protect from night kills or other actions. Cannot kill.
I told them we checked AB and Tyrion even though we checked the doctors.
Kyan and Donna are the gossips. Not jailers, do not protect from night kills or other actions. Cannot kill.
I told them we checked AB and Tyrion even though we checked the doctors.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Claimed that I was a one shot cop.
Hm, if we die before you do, that's not going to be a good look.
Man, people being rude af and it's only D2...
Man, Sorian doin
Then again, the easy out is for Bae to say she lied to Kyonna since she couldn't be sure if they were scum or not. Not sure how much that helps her case but it's an option.
Not to mention Sorian put in the call for Bae to claim. Bae could try to put it off and have Kyan/Donna verify her when she does, but it'll only delay the inevitable.
Then again, the easy out is for Bae to say she lied to Kyonna since she couldn't be sure if they were scum or not. Not sure how much that helps her case but it's an option.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
I think I’ll breadcrumb to kyan and Donna that it’s red
I think we just ride it out.
That doesn't seem like a good idea.
Z-beat
only here for the flavor
They're pissed. That's good. Angry people aren't thinking
Could always tell them you were roleblocked. It would explain why you're alive and stop the need to return a result.
Yeah but Stu shouldn't have to put up with a scarlet letter just because people think he's scum. The point of the game is for everyone to have fun and that includes scum (or suspected scum).
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
I could see your chat. I told them who we were thinking of checking, that you checked AB and Ty. I could override it if I wanted to by submitting the command last cause bear told me.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
I could do not Mafia / Mafia
Geno being a dick never helps town
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If you got a red check as a one shot it would be wild to not immediately claim it.
I think you either have to say you were roleblocked or you outright claim the red check. You can wait a bit and say you wanted to see people’s reactions. I have no idea what is best, we’re in a rough spot.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
AB and Ty are in trouble of getting lynched today anyway. Is that ok with the rest of you