Spectator Thread Pizza Party!

[Fanto]

So, time for some theorizing about how Chugg can win.

It is currently at 6-1.

If he can get Stan today, then shoot at Ket tonight, that will mean Loki activates and can shoot someone on their way out, assuming she shoots B-Dubs, which she very much wants to.

This means it can get all the way down to a 2-1 LyLo, consisting of Neon, Exodus, and Chugg, tomorrow!

Chugg can then win by convincing Exodus, who he "green checked" to vote for Neon with him, who was actually a Scum Steven... party host... or something...

No! Scratch that! He will convince Neon that Exodus is actually a Godfather! Who also... had... a double vote...

No! Forget everything I said!

Chugg will tell them both that he is, in fact, a Neutral Survivor 2-Shot Alignment Cop,and that therefore one of them has to be Scum, so whoever it is should out themselves and tell him who to vote for so they can win together! Town will try to prevent this by voting for the other player before they arrive, and then Chugg will hammer the win! Easy!

 

[turmoil7]

#teamChuggs

 

[Reki]

I believe Neon would be the most careful on where to vote in that situation. And considering the low profile TheChuggernaut has shown in the last days it would look weird for him to be suddenly pushing them like that.

Ms. Bird has a significant chance to get B-Dubs lunched today too, but I agree that she and Ketkat probably won't survive the night.

 

[heymonkey]

Welcome, @Queen Kong.

 

[Queen Kong]

 

[turmoil7]

Hope you had fun!

And dont worry, town still has the upper hand, being the last scum with so many townies is hard to pull

 

[heymonkey]

Hey, getting NKed just means you were important!

 

[Fanto]

Aww, you did great! Hopefully you had fun, it was fun to watch you play! :)

 

[Queen Kong]

Okay....
I had fun tho. Thanks for the game.

I had the vest I was feeling really safe. :((

 

[heymonkey]

That vest was just a 50/50 shot. Can’t trust those Funland prizes.

 

[Queen Kong]

That vest was just a 50/50 shot. Can’t trust those Funland prizes.

New information.

 

[Reki]

Welcome! You did great, glad to hear you had fun.

so I'd imagine that scum have a role cop to actually find targets.

Yes!

Plus now we know that scum has a strong kill power so that is def something to look into.

Could it be a jack-of-all-trades that's left?

Nooo!

Can’t trust those Funland prizes.

I know you put hints in the description of the vest, but at some point I was worried the detector would malfunction and lead us to a mislunch or something.

The nice part is that it could be the excuse for mafia "using" that item, as EzekelRAGE pointed out. Although that's not really nice.

 

[Sawneeks]

That vest was just a 50/50 shot. Can’t trust those Funland prizes.

 

[heymonkey]

They are deep in it in there.

 

[Reki]

Wait. You get to fuse? As in, you are collectively Garnet???

That's honestly what Ketkat thought would happen when we fused and we didn't even think Garnet would be a role in this game (we discussed it in the chat earlier)

Both Ms. Bird and Neon have been putting pretty good work, even if it leans a bit on flavor sometimes. They're so close to the truth.

You can do it!

I’ve seen scum green check a scum mate before, but that was in a super rough situation for scum, and this is not that if scum is Ketkat and Neon. Like holy shit that would be a weird move. If scum did play a part in this, it’s probably Neon that’s the scum here.

I'm currently town reading Chuggs, but if it turns out that he is scum, then this post will be very fun in retrospect.

You bet.

 

[Sawneeks]

Calculating purely numerical odds, out of us 7, 4 people that are still living were in that bandwagon (exo voted for stan, B-DUbs voted for WSD and I voted for you Chugs), if we assume that there is just one scum left, the probability that it was one of those 4 is 57% (Which could mean it is Bdubs or stan as well), if there are 2, the probability that there was at least 1 scum in that wagon is 85 percent.

Honestly, by this point I'm just confused.

 

[Sawneeks]

Exo is the savior we need. Don't let them keep falling for Chuggs' lies

 

[Queen Kong]

Ughhhhhhhh.... Town please...!!

At least in this game, I don't get target right away like in real life social game.

 

[cabot]

how is b-dubs being considered.

A public day shot vigi? That's really unlikely to be scum.

Also again, if he was scum then why the fuck would he randomly do it on D2.

 

[cabot]

Chuggs has a decent chance to be honest. I think Stan's reveal has brought Town to scatterbrains.

 

[Fanto]

We are nearing peak paranoia at this point. Everyone is Scum.

 

[Queen Kong]

Loki and Ketkat are in such a dangerous position tonight.

 

[heymonkey]

Even when they are off I love the WORK in this game!

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Never go full Fanto.

 

[Fanto]

Never go full Fanto.

 

[cabot]

Haters hate that hat

 

[Fanto]

Haters hate that hat

 

[Queen Kong]

I’m really bothered by the fact that there are only 5 hours left and I appear to be the only one scum hunting right now.

I'd love to help, if only I'm not dead... ;;

 

[heymonkey]

Some people earn hate. Like Taylor Swift. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Z-beat]

So close yet so far.

 

[Fanto]

Some people earn hate. Like Taylor Swift. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You need to calm down.

 

[turmoil7]

Ket and Stan entertaining the idea of investigators lying

 

[Fanto]

I feel like they are really close to deciding to go with Chugg today, this is getting intense.

 

[heymonkey]

also i dont know why that gif was so small, it was much bigger in a different window.

because everything is against you now, Ronaldo. Everything.

 

[nin1000]

#teamchuggs you can do it!

 

[turmoil7]

i havnt been making good decisions all game so why start now?

 

[Fanto]

Logic really is pointing to Chugg being their best option for today.

Don't kill the claimed Lovers, that would be silly.

Exodus and B-Dubs both proved their roles with commands in the thread, possible that one is Scum, but wouldn't be wise to go there first.

Neon claimed as Steven and no one countered his Party Host claim, extremely low chance Steven is not Town or not in the game.

Stan and Chugg, the "Cops"

Stan's role claim and results seem highly unlikely to have been fabricated, and would give next to nothing for Scum if they're true.

However, Chugg's role claim and results could easily have been fabricated, meaning he could be lying, meaning he could be Scum.

Chugg is their best bet.

 

[nin1000]

So exodus lays out a scenario in which it makes more sense to vote for Chuggs than me, given my role is verified and we have nothing but faith when it comes to his, so Stan votes for me.


I thought we was lovers man. Do me dirty like this.

but somehow i hope that town realizes this .

 

[Fanto]

That being said, #TeamChugg til the end, baby!

 

[heymonkey]

The next time I'm scum, I'm totally faking a role like Stan's.

 

[Fanto]

The next time I'm scum, I'm totally faking a role like Stan's.

Somewhere, Sorian just got a smile on his face, and he's not quite sure why.

 

[Reki]

#teamchuggs you can do it!

You traitor!

 

[nin1000]

You traitor!

Hey hey.
I am always for the underdogs!
chances are slim but he can do it if he plays his cards right

 

[heymonkey]

Somewhere, Sorian just got a smile on his face, and he's not quite sure why.

....I hate you.

 

[Reki]

Hey hey.
I am always for the underdogs!
chances are slim but he can do it if he plays his cards right

Yeah if he pulls it off it'd be nice.

I believe he has higher chances than you think, but it all depends on Chuggs being calmed and avoiding overreactions to suspicion/votes on him.

 

[turmoil7]

I look at you and i cant help but think "well that there is a rock person".

Truly any role can become the most influential

 

[nin1000]

Also iv had a good gut feeling about chuggs most of the game.

Come on Stan! Think! I know you can do it sometimes !

 

[Fanto]

If they use Stan's results to justify killing another Town member, he is going to hate Monkey so much for giving him this role lmao.

 

[Pedro]

Stan should be using his powers at most to see if someone's lying about their flavor name (i.e. if someone says they're Ruby but stan's check on them says they're Amethyst, or something similar), cause that's all a flavor cop should do.
His role is not meant to be a "Cryptic Alignment Cop", that checks alignment but gives answers in a cheeky way. He's not an Alignment Cop and yet people are using his results to catch scummies

 

[Fanto]

a "Cryptic Alignment Cop", that checks alignment but gives answers in a cheeky way

 

[Fanto]

Things are heating up here.

Will they just vote for Dubs?

Will they take out the Lovers??

Will they actually decide to go for Chugg???

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So all the bussing May save us?

I still don’t know how we bussed each other so hard lol.

 

[Fanto]

Welp, Dubs hammered himself.

 

[Fanto]

Well, Dubs kind of wrote out a playbook for Chugg to get a win tomorrow if Town actually wants to kill the claimed Lovers.

He can kill Neon or Exodus tonight, putting it at 4-1, convince everyone to vote for the Lovers, 2-1, kill anyone, 1-1, Chugg wins.

Otherwise he kills the Lovers tonight, 3-1, MyLo, Town votes no lunch, he shoots probably Neon or Exodus, 2-1, LyLo with Chugg/Stan/Neon or Exodus.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Exo chuggs Stan 3way could be fun. Assuming lovers die and they vig shoot ket/neon.

 

[Fanto]

Or, if he shoots Ket instead of Loki, then Loki gets the shot and if she doesn't hit Chugg, then the MyLo phase is skipped.

 

[nin1000]

I want the meltdowns

 

[Fanto]

how is b-dubs being considered.

A public day shot vigi? That's really unlikely to be scum.

Also again, if he was scum then why the fuck would he randomly do it on D2.

Cabot, let me know if you're ok when you see this EoD.

 

[heymonkey]

Ooof.

I dunno about the nk that was submitted. I'm not sure what I'd do here but I don't think it would be that.

eta: real talk, I would talk to myself all night and change that kill ten times, I know me

 

[B-dubs]

Fucking hell, man.

 

[heymonkey]

Fucking hell, man.

That was rough. cabot burst three blood vessels at least yelling about town killing the vig.

 

[B-dubs]

I knew it was either Loki/Ket or Chuggs. He's got them all in his pocket.

GG scum team

 

[B-dubs]

Gah, I got too hung up on the idea of 2 scum left. If you throw that idea out you're left with Chuggs. I think they can do it.

 

[Fanto]

Gah, I got too hung up on the idea of 2 scum left. If you throw that idea out you're left with Chuggs. I think they can do it.

I did find some irony in the fact that Town usually trips themselves up by underestimating the size of the Scum team, but in this case, they have been overestimating the size of the Scum team.

 

[Fanto]

Chugg's decision for the Kill will basically come down to whether or not he thinks he can convince Town that the Lovers are both Scum.

 

[Fanto]

Chugg's decision for the Kill will basically come down to whether or not he thinks he can convince Town that the Lovers are both Scum.

Or whether he thinks that Town can convince themselves that the Lovers are both Scum lol.

 

[B-dubs]

Or whether he thinks that Town can convince themselves that the Lovers are both Scum lol.

If it were me I'd go for for the latter. Kill them now and you're instantly the target. He's just got to pick someone to kill that won't give him away and will leave him with two votes to pocket.

 

[cabot]

Cabot, let me know if you're ok when you see this EoD.

That was rough. cabot burst three blood vessels at least yelling about town killing the vig.

 

[B-dubs]

Ooof.

I dunno about the nk that was submitted. I'm not sure what I'd do here but I don't think it would be that.

eta: real talk, I would talk to myself all night and change that kill ten times, I know me

Wait, what NK did they pick?

 

[heymonkey]

If it were me I'd go for for the latter. Kill them now and you're instantly the target. He's just got to pick someone to kill that won't give him away and will leave him with two votes to pocket.

Well, I guess he agrees cause he’s killing Neon. We’ll see how it goes.

 

[Sawneeks]

Well, I guess he agrees cause he’s killing Neon. We’ll see how it goes.

monkey i want off this wild ride

 

[B-dubs]

Well, I guess he agrees cause he’s killing Neon. We’ll see how it goes.

Oooh, I wouldn't kill Neon. He seems the easiest to pocket.

Kill Stan imo. He's not around enough to make a difference in voting and could easily see through the bullshit if he is. Pocket Neon and Exo imo

 

[Sawneeks]

Kill Neon and that leaves:

- Ms. Duck
- Stan
- Chuggs
- Exo
- Ket

not sure what Chuggs is banking on here. He might be able to swing a Stan lynch (poor stan) but if he then NKs Duck/Ket they likely will shoot him in the night. Exo would be last man standing and win it for Town

not seeing a good way out of this, boat friend. but i believe in you, you dirty scum

 

[B-dubs]

Kill Neon and that leaves:

- Ms. Duck
- Stan
- Chuggs
- Exo
- Ket

not sure what Chuggs is banking on here. He might be able to swing a Stan lynch (poor stan) but if he then NKs Duck/Ket they likely will shoot him in the night. Exo would be last man standing and win it for Town

not seeing a good way out of this, boat friend. but i believe in you, you dirty scum

How do Ket/duck trigger their NK anyway?

 

[Fanto]

How do Ket/duck trigger their NK anyway?

From what I recall, If Ket had died before finding Loki, then Loki would have just gotten a normal Vig shot.

However, since they fused, now if Ket is shot at night instead of Loki, then Loki gets to pick a target to shoot before the day starts and they will die along with them. But if Loki is shot instead of Ket, then they just die with no Vig shot.

Monkey makes cool roles lol.

 

[Queen Kong]

Oh it's Dubs.
I missed how Chugg learnt there's no garnet?

 

[B-dubs]

From what I recall, If Ket had died before finding Loki, then Loki would have just gotten a normal Vig shot.

However, since they fused, now if Ket is shot at night instead of Loki, then Loki gets to pick a target to shoot before the day starts and they will die along with them. But if Loki is shot instead of Ket, then they just die with no Vig shot.

Monkey makes cool roles lol.

Yeah, that's never gonna happen.

 

[Aeleus]

I did find some irony in the fact that Town usually trips themselves up by underestimating the size of the Scum team, but in this case, they have been overestimating the size of the Scum team.

Horrible flashbacks to house of horrors

Oh it's Dubs.
I missed how Chugg learnt there's no garnet?

Scum was given a list of character names (ie garnet, onion) which were guaranteed not to be taken by town roles, allowing safe fake names.

 

[heymonkey]

From what I recall, If Ket had died before finding Loki, then Loki would have just gotten a normal Vig shot.

However, since they fused, now if Ket is shot at night instead of Loki, then Loki gets to pick a target to shoot before the day starts and they will die along with them. But if Loki is shot instead of Ket, then they just die with no Vig shot.

Monkey makes cool roles lol.

I do my best!

monkey i want off this wild ride

no

 

[Queen Kong]

Horrible flashbacks to house of horrors


Scum was given a list of character names (ie garnet, onion) which were guaranteed not to be taken by town roles, allowing safe fake names.

NO!!! That's evil!!!!!

 

[heymonkey]

NO!!! That's evil!!!!!

Yeah, it’s standard practice here, from long before my time. I had a similar reaction the first time I learned it.

 

[Queen Kong]

Yeah, it’s standard practice here, from long before my time. I had a similar reaction the first time I learned it.

You just like hoarding Mafia ghosts.

 

[B-dubs]

From what I recall, If Ket had died before finding Loki, then Loki would have just gotten a normal Vig shot.

However, since they fused, now if Ket is shot at night instead of Loki, then Loki gets to pick a target to shoot before the day starts and they will die along with them. But if Loki is shot instead of Ket, then they just die with no Vig shot.

Monkey makes cool roles lol.

God, so the fact they found each other makes the power worse? Shiiiiit

 

[Fanto]

God, so the fact they found each other makes the power worse? Shiiiiit

Basically, yeah.

Loki was being cagey about it because she doesn't want Scum to know how it becomes activated.

Unfortunately, even mentioning it at all seems to have spooked Chugg somewhat, he doesn't want to target them because he's worried he'll get shot. As far as I can tell, he is going all in on Town deciding to take them out tomorrow for him instead.

(Also, Ketkat just showed up in Lover's Chat and totally thinks Chugg is Scum, so he's right to be afraid lol)

 

[heymonkey]

Ketkat Queen! She’s been so good.

 

[Z-beat]

Some people earn hate. Like Taylor Swift. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Z-beat]

Ketket Queen! She’s been so good.

Ket was the only one I fully town read

 

[Queen Kong]

Ket was one of my suspects because Neeks or someone said she was a believable scum.

(Also, Ketkat just showed up in Lover's Chat and totally thinks Chugg is Scum, so he's right to be afraid lol)

Yes please...

 

[B-dubs]

Basically, yeah.

Loki was being cagey about it because she doesn't want Scum to know how it becomes activated.

Unfortunately, even mentioning it at all seems to have spooked Chugg somewhat, he doesn't want to target them because he's worried he'll get shot. As far as I can tell, he is going all in on Town deciding to take them out tomorrow for him instead.

(Also, Ketkat just showed up in Lover's Chat and totally thinks Chugg is Scum, so he's right to be afraid lol)

Oh thank god. Now all they gotta do is convince Stan.

 

[Sawneeks]

Unfortunately, even mentioning it at all seems to have spooked Chugg somewhat, he doesn't want to target them because he's worried he'll get shot. As far as I can tell, he is going all in on Town deciding to take them out tomorrow for him instead.

 

[Sawneeks]

Out of curiosity has Stan put in a command yet? Maybe they'll base the lynch off of that again.

 

[cabot]

Out of curiosity has Stan put in a command yet? Maybe they'll base the lynch off of that again.

 

[nin1000]

On the one hand I want town to get chuggs today, on the other hand I want chuggs to drag this out some longer and maybe get the win.

 

[heymonkey]

Out of curiosity has Stan put in a command yet? Maybe they'll base the lynch off of that again.

He’s checking Loki and also he hates his role.

 

[Geno]

Lol! I don't ever want to forget it, either :p I think that's the first time I've had to make up a claim like that.

Btw, @Geno , I petition 3-shot bulletproof bodyguard as a role in HvV2 o/

Something close existed in the first one. Btw I hope you play in 2.

 

[Fanto]

This day is gunna be ridiculous lol can't wait.

 

[Reki]

It would be nice to get an unexpected hero like Stantastic to lead town to victory with a flavor clue or something.

Just out of spite for Monkey for giving him that role, of course.

 

[heymonkey]

He might, actually. The clue he got tonight made more sense than most of the clues.

 

[heymonkey]

Welcome, @Neon. Just killing off the newbies in there. Rude.

 

[heymonkey]

I'd say that pre-typed post isn't a good look, but then again, Maple Street happened, so maybe it's necessary.