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[weemadarthur]

So we got 3 in the end! It just involved shooting an inoffensive bystander.

 

[weemadarthur]

Wait thaat’s 4. *counts fingers* yes i still has 4

 

[Verelios]

Hot take:
I’d have supported aeleus’ idea, TP should have taken us up on it.

Which idea?

 

[weemadarthur]

Hot take 2: Bomb Defuser is scum role

 

[weemadarthur]

Which idea?

The one where we let him blow up all the scum suspects.

Yes, I know. They wouldn’t cooperate. But still.

 

[Verelios]

Just because when we met I was scum you never see me as anything else

You might be right, it takes me a while to town read you. I have the same problem with Stu.

 

[Verelios]

The one where we let him blow up all the scum suspects.

Yes, I know. They wouldn’t cooperate. But still.

Lol, I don't think Tearable would've agreed at any rate because we'd definitely kill him before he hits 5.

 

[weemadarthur]

It’s okay, I still scum read you too. You’re capable of ANYTHING.

 

[weemadarthur]

You fall for my Day One Scum Bait, vere? Think I’ve gone nutso every game? I just entertain myself.

 

[weemadarthur]

Stupid Kalor. I didn’t WANT to move.

 

[Verelios]

It’s okay, I still scum read you too. You’re capable of ANYTHING.

Is this a compliment? I think it is.

You fall for my Day One Scum Bait, vere? Think I’ve gone nutso every game? I just entertain myself.

No, maybe, that's the only to play.

 

[weemadarthur]

Do triptans and tequila mix well together?

 

[Verelios]

I would say no, but I would also say live life!

 

[Kalor]

Stupid Kalor. I didn’t WANT to move.

Blame whoever the second person was who moved out of the bathroom before day 1s end. I was planning on choosing them originally to test my role out.

 

[Aeleus]

The one where we let him blow up all the scum suspects.

Yes, I know. They wouldn’t cooperate. But still.

Secret part of the plan: if we knew the bomb zone Kalor could use his ability to kill anyone he liked >:)

Me being around for that counterclaim was really fortunate, I had just reached my station so had the signal to check the game one last time before I left and saw TP's claim, I was so shocked I almost didn't leave the train in time!

What's the chance of the quarters being the bomb zone? Unlikely given Ketkat was in it.

And now for the major item of the day: @Verelios why didn't you heal fanto like I told you to!! You fool!!

 

[Aeleus]

Looks like SweetTP stayed in either the kitchen or the Quarters so given Ketkat checked the quarters last night we should be fine (she's in the kitchen tonight)

 

[Verelios]

Secret part of the plan: if we knew the bomb zone Kalor could use his ability to kill anyone he liked >:)

Me being around for that counterclaim was really fortunate, I had just reached my station so had the signal to check the game one last time before I left and saw TP's claim, I was so shocked I almost didn't leave the train in time!

What's the chance of the quarters being the bomb zone? Unlikely given Ketkat was in it.

And now for the major item of the day: @Verelios why didn't you heal fanto like I told you to!! You fool!!

Yeaaaahhhh, turns out it's a passive self-item. I thought it was possible to to use on others but it seems like not?

 

[Aeleus]

Yeaaaahhhh, turns out it's a passive self-item. I thought it was possible to to use on others but it seems like not?

... I'm going to need to think about that a bit...

@Kalor move anyone?

 

[weemadarthur]

What rooms do we think scum are in? Can we put more of them together?

 

[weemadarthur]

Aeleus you said something in the last game’s spec chat where you just explained, like, what I was doing, to the rest of the posters.

Do you realize.......*you were right*.

Following the logical point further.....you likely think the same way I do.

 

[Aeleus]

Hot take:
I’d have supported aeleus’ idea, TP should have taken us up on it.

Yeah I wasn't lying about my offer. A shame he didn't take it and thus had to die.

What rooms do we think scum are in? Can we put more of them together?

Probably in rooms with zeke or ket, best way to ensure their safety.

Aeleus you said something in the last game’s spec chat where you just explained, like, what I was doing, to the rest of the posters.

Do you realize.......*you were right*.

Following the logical point further.....you likely think the same way I do.

I have no idea where you're going with this but thanks?

 

[weemadarthur]

I have no idea where you're going with this but thanks?

Just wondering if that’s a scary thought.

 

[weemadarthur]

Hmmm nin is no bomber, just came up with the concept freely. Town smith that makes death is self balanced by bad aim and guns that aren’t too reliable. But is a scum overrider a part of this scum team in a game with 2 SKs?

 

[Kalor]

I don't think nin is scum. If he is, the override must have came from an item but I don't know if there's any unclaimed items or if he ever had the chance to enter.

 

[weemadarthur]

I haven’t finished rereading the game thread but it’s so looooong. Why didn’t we kill the talkers even faster.

 

[Verelios]

I heavily doubt Nin is scum. This conversation would be a lot easier if he was, but the override makes me believe him.

 

[Aeleus]

Nin could be scum but I think that's unlikely compared to quite a few other players.

 

[weemadarthur]

The gun command had to be posted in-thread, which, barring any more Old Signs, makes it effectively a day weapon. I wonder if narf considered my shooting a person during a night phase. Hmmm.

My point is, aeleus can’t really be scum as an adrenaline junkie, because town has no night kills and it would be stupid. Not even bastard, just stupid.

 

[Verelios]

So you can't shoot the 'gun' from Maol at night? Or is it that you didn't ask Fran?

 

[weemadarthur]

I mean since people who are in the bathroom are restricted in doing any night actions aswell as day actions the following day, I would love to know if it would be possible to interfere from outside.


I for one know that for sure now that the bathroom is indeed some kind of a extended jail

How does nin know this? He didn’t try a override command in the game thread during the day he was bathroom blocked.....is it just from the bathroom message from the mod?

 

[weemadarthur]

So you can't shoot the 'gun' from Maol at night? Or is it that you didn't ask Fran?

I didn’t have a gun when i had the old sign, and now i don’t have either, so no i didn’t ask. Seemed pointless to.

 

[weemadarthur]

low hanging fruit?

we have caught him in a straight up lie about his role, hes clearly fucking with us just for the sake of it (so y'know, anti town at best), and i dont remember anything about there only one scum left?


the fuck is up with you here zeke? we have an extremely good lunch right here and you just want to drop it and look elsewhere?

Imagine putting scum hunting blarg as a feather in your scum hunting cap.

*truffleshuffle*


Siri play Goodbye by Blac Youngsta

This exchange happened before blarg’s redirect as a count of actions was under discussion, and makes me want to kill these 2. Stan was....just not following the claim which was frankly clearer than he says, and zeke is. Well. Right, but could be a scum defending a known town rather than just zeke being bold?

 

[Kalor]

How does nin know this? He didn’t try a override command in the game thread during the day he was bathroom blocked.....is it just from the bathroom message from the mod?

I gathered as much from the bathroom message so it's not too weird that he knows that. Though the "I for one know" implies some greater knowledge that wouldn't make sense with their claimed role. Unless it's just unfortunate wording.

 

[Kalor]

I definitely want to lynch Zeke and Stan eventually. I couldn't tell you anything Stan has done besides encourage Nin to use his override.

 

[weemadarthur]

So you can't shoot the 'gun' from Maol at night? Or is it that you didn't ask Fran?

Or um. This is a thread. Maybe a command could be posted here. Iono. If I get a weak gun I’ll for sure ask.

 

[weemadarthur]

I gathered as much from the bathroom message so it's not too weird that he knows that. Though the "I for one know" implies some greater knowledge that wouldn't make sense with their claimed role. Unless it's just unfortunate wording.

“Unfortunate wording” is what nin does, yet I still try to understand it as a greater whole. Joke will be on me I’m sure.

 

[Verelios]

I definitely want to lynch Zeke and Stan eventually. I couldn't tell you anything Stan has done besides encourage Nin to use his override.

I'm definitely wary of Zeke having two (?) items of questionable use, one which he claims is a BP to explain why he doesn't get Nked.

Or um. This is a thread. Maybe a command could be posted here. Iono. If I get a weak gun I’ll for sure ask.

Yeah, that's fair. I wonder how far Maol thought this through. I'd like for him to give another gun to confirm it wasn't a JOAT ability and he is a gunsmith.

 

[weemadarthur]

Well, I guess if we want to find someone else to vote for now...


How about FEPs?


Vote: flatearthpandas


If all he wants to do is be hostile, swear at everyone, and try to force Faddy to use his role, meh, no loss in my eyes. He could easily be Scum with his voting record, and he's barely even playing.

Not a bad point

I don’t know how to explain unless I role claim, but if I didn’t move then sweetnicole might not be town, I have no way of knowing.

Why do I soooo enjoy watching serial killers compete with each other

 

[weemadarthur]

The bomb serial killer and the sub-group serial killer are already self balanced by their selection processes, scum being likely to spread themselves around rooms because they probably have some room mechanics somewhere. But this game could have like, ended in around 4 days lol. Could you imagine a double SK win, no town no scum win? That woulda been epic.

 

[Verelios]

The bomb serial killer and the sub-group serial killer are already self balanced by their selection processes, scum being likely to spread themselves around rooms because they probably have some room mechanics somewhere. But this game could have like, ended in around 4 days lol. Could you imagine a double SK win, no town no scum win? That woulda been epic.

It's really a shame that Zipped didn't manage to convince us a bit more. I reckon that he was just on the cusp of victory with that fake claim.

 

[weemadarthur]

So zipped pulls 5 ppl into a mini thread, they have to vote a scum, zipped is the scum, the 4 townies he tags don’t realize they’ve been kingkitty’d, all 4 townies die and zipped shrugs?

*pats wee on back*

And if I am a Naive Tracker, then Fran did not tell me about it. My role is called a Tracker. Period.

Could still have been Naive, which sucks for blarg....but helped us commit to killing zipped. Should be amusing to cover later.

 

[weemadarthur]

But aeleus, you typed 91313 in thread, and your chemical formula here is 91303. Which one is the typo?

 

[Kalor]

Verelios, did you ever fully claim in this thread? I realized looking at my notes that I didn't know if this chat came from a role or item.

 

[weemadarthur]

Who woulda thunk aeleus making a relatively random sudden choice to join wee in the bathroom N2 would help out 2 scums? It seems so arbitrary.

 

[weemadarthur]

I want to kill feps first.

 

[weemadarthur]

I feel like it's a mistake to try and flip someone that is annoying you more than someone that is being scum read. For Zipped's claim to hold up as true, Fanto has to have some shenanigans going on with his role, and I don't see why we take that risk.

Yes, yes. Good reminder. *sigh*

Also TP was a good sport. *waves*

 

[Verelios]

Verelios, did you ever fully claim in this thread? I realized looking at my notes that I didn't know if this chat came from a role or item.

Didn't yet, though it would be impossible for it to come from an item. I invited Monkey before I was in my first auction N2.

 

[weemadarthur]

we should be enough numbers to lunch zipped and agree on a second place, lets put FEP there


i will switch


vote:flatearthpandas

Assuming feps and turms are scummates, this is a pretty clever move when there’s no real chance anyone but zipped will die.

Do you plan to evadne all the players’ questions, or will you comply with demands?!

Anyone get this, ever? I doubt it. Yummy crumbs.

 

[weemadarthur]

shooo peasants


shooo


you don't even know how to read

What ARE you kyaa. What is Fort Kyaaa. Peasants? Are you an emperor butterfly?

 

[weemadarthur]

I forgot we have a ghost. *toys with asking VA to haunt the library for lulz*

 

[weemadarthur]

I think kyan claimed vig


Vicent haunt kyan

Well shoot. I’m not original.

 

[weemadarthur]

This has been real and it’s been fun but it hasn’t been real fun. I gotta go but if I die I uh. Will be surprised with maol out there. But anyway see you in game thread in a couple. I need brekky.

 

[Aeleus]

This has been real and it’s been fun but it hasn’t been real fun. I gotta go but if I die I uh. Will be surprised with maol out there. But anyway see you in game thread in a couple. I need brekky.

Zeke has his random kill stopper right? I'm expecting 0 deaths

 

[weemadarthur]

Oh but iif i do die kill feps for me, he’s the only one who gave a crap about my role and he hasn’t given a crap about anything else that i recall. I mean, reread first, but still.

 

[Verelios]

Well, here's hoping none of us get shot tonight!

 

[Aeleus]

But aeleus, you typed 91313 in thread, and your chemical formula here is 91303. Which one is the typo?

N is 1, O is 3

 

[Franconp]

Chat is now open.

 

[Aeleus]

So Vere the item you're now claiming to have, isn't it remarkably similar to the BP zeke claims to have?

Turmoil was town, which isn't that shocking. Quiet town is a losing town.

 

[weemadarthur]

What item.

 

[Verelios]

The stomach medicine? Yeah, I suppose. It's for protect and poison (I don't think there's poison).

 

[Aeleus]

What item.

Vere claimed to a protect+antidote shot and when I called him out for not listening to me and using it to stop the fanto kill he claimed it was because he had misread the item and it was actually a passive self target.

 

[Aeleus]

The stomach medicine? Yeah, I suppose. It's for protect and poison (I don't think there's poison).

And that's not suspicious to you at all?

 

[Verelios]

Now that Turmoil flipped town I suppose we'll have to take a hard look at:
Zeke
Feps
Stan
Ket

It feels like scum is definitely in that list.

 

[Verelios]

And that's not suspicious to you at all?

Well, it wasn't because I just assumed the item was what it was. What was the item that Zeke claimed BP for?

 

[weemadarthur]

Well double lunch should be nice if we have a decent plan.

I’m up for killing kenny, feps, kalor, zeke and stan.

 

[weemadarthur]

Taco bell may have been poison, but if so, it wasn’t called that in its desc, because VA just said it was a 2 person thingy.

 

[Aeleus]

Well, it wasn't because I just assumed the item was what it was. What was the item that Zeke claimed BP for?

I believe it was the book

 

[Verelios]

Ohhhhh shit, that makes so much sense to eat Taco Bell with stomach medicine.

 

[Verelios]

I believe it was the book

A book as a BP? Odd, but not impossible I guess.

 

[Aeleus]

Taco bell may have been poison, but if so, it wasn’t called that in its desc, because VA just said it was a 2 person thingy.

Ohhhhh shit, that makes so much sense to eat Taco Bell with stomach medicine.

Both the 2 person thing and that VA died instantly mean it's highly unlikely that the taco bell is poison (after all at that point wouldn't a protect on its own work fine)

 

[Verelios]

Hm, what I don't get really is why VA opted to take the TB alone? That's the part where my theories start coming undone.

 

[weemadarthur]

Still need to work out why zipped/blarg happened. Is it kenny’s fault?

 

[Verelios]

Do you think Ynn lied about their PR?

 

[weemadarthur]

Not really. Maybe. Huh, now i don’t know.
I reread thru day 4, will try more later when i’m ....more capable.

 

[Kyanrute]

HEEEEELLOOOOOOOO CULT CHAT!

 

[Kyanrute]

Ynnek in a room where he should not be unless he is as paranoid as I am about noodle lunatic.

Me hopes we get a pewpew and can shootbang someone yaaay.

In general we need to fall back to actual actions, not just this role nonsense. Kill people because they haven't been hunting, not because they have a claim on board.

Who here wants me to commit suicide via feps / get someone in quarters murdered?

 

[Kyanrute]

These were nice apart from my placement in them:

Town
[They/Them] Aeleus|A
[She/Her] Ketkat
[He/Him] EzekelRAGE
[He/Him] Kalor
[He/Him] Maolfunction|Mao
[He/Him] Verelios
[They/She] weemadarthur|wee
[He/Him] nin
[He/Him] Ynnek7|Ynnek
[He/Him] Stantastic|Stan
[any] flatearthpandas|fep
Scum

Now that turmy flipped town, paranoia is starting again. It is still a ludicrous thought that scum would protect from their own NK (Zeke). Kalor could drop on the list if Feps flips scum (N4 Kalor did not move Ket away from the bomb room). Ket isn't a scum role though that kill can be entertained in endgame. Aeleus rivals and eclipses my town karma gained from D1-D3 adventures. Pewpewman gets higher if he ever manages to deliver more shootbang.

With the rest it is a combination of what have they done + votes + a hint of roles on the side.

 

[Kyanrute]

Then I actually look at the votes and both wee and nin should get higher on the list for their commendable actions against beings of mean.

oh well!

 

[Kyanrute]

*ice cream*

 

[Kyanrute]

Re: Fanto-Blarg-Zipped

1) Zipped did a questionable action of tagging nobody N3 and then lied about it.
2) Zipped was blocked.

But scum blocker was dead and nobody has claimed a blocker or a JOAT or something. Still, at least three theories exist for 2:

1) Feps did not win a movement detector but a blocker and used it on N3 and blocked Zipped with it.
2) Vere did not win a movement detector but a blocker and used it on N3 and blocked Zipped with it.
3) Kalor moved Zipped to the bathroom N3. Zipped did not move D4 but on the other hand nor did he mention that he was unable to move either.

 

[Kyanrute]

*vere did not win a stomach medicine le control c control v fail

 

[Kyanrute]

@Narf @Franconp if a person happened to have a cool night action, could they possibly use the action in this totally cult chat right here?

What about a boring night action, like betting for the next day lynch for an instance?

 

[Franconp]

No, they can't. All actions must be used by PM.

 

[Aeleus]

Re: Fanto-Blarg-Zipped

1) Zipped did a questionable action of tagging nobody N3 and then lied about it.
2) Zipped was blocked.

But scum blocker was dead and nobody has claimed a blocker or a JOAT or something. Still, at least three theories exist for 2:

1) Feps did not win a movement detector but a blocker and used it on N3 and blocked Zipped with it.
2) Vere did not win a movement detector but a blocker and used it on N3 and blocked Zipped with it.

But both of these ask the question of why out of all the player block zipped?

3) Kalor moved Zipped to the bathroom N3. Zipped did not move D4 but on the other hand nor did he mention that he was unable to move either.

This is unlikely given wee claims to have recieved a message telling them they weren't roleblocked when kalor moved them out of the bathrom (I also received a message telling me I was roleblocked when I was in the bathroom)

 

[Kyanrute]

But both of these ask the question of why out of all the player block zipped?

This is unlikely given wee claims to have recieved a message telling them they weren't roleblocked when kalor moved them out of the bathrom (I also received a message telling me I was roleblocked when I was in the bathroom)

The best idea seems indeed to be 4) we don't know enough yet. If we go with that, we are expecting a straight on lie with one of the claims - some other scum manipulative role must exist.

Could Ynnek be a scum joat?

 

[Aeleus]

Could Ynnek be a scum joat?

I don't see how Ynnek's claimed ability helps scum, it's role madness so it's reasonable to assume that there will be lots of moving roles so scum learning how many people in a room move doesn't help them lots. It's primary use seems to be catching out fakeclaims or catching the person who performs the kill command.

JOAT is a possibility I guess but still a weird one.

 

[Kyanrute]

I don't see how Ynnek's claimed ability helps scum, it's role madness so it's reasonable to assume that there will be lots of moving roles so scum learning how many people in a room move doesn't help them lots. It's primary use seems to be catching out fakeclaims or catching the person who performs the kill command.

JOAT is a possibility I guess but still a weird one.

Scum could use it to scout out active roles and give themselves a cover: "yeah I did not move like Ynnek said so I did not do the kill!" Scum are missing an investigative role as well. On the other hand now that I've taken a look at his room picks, I don't see the JOAT being the more likely option.

 

[Kyanrute]

Ynnek's reasoning for not using a shot on D3 sucks - he was concerned about five other people sharing the room with him but he already had scanned two of them.

The obvious implication in all this is that he had two shots and is baiting the kill if town.

 

[Aeleus]

Ynnek's reasoning for not using a shot on D3 sucks - he was concerned about five other people sharing the room with him but he already had scanned two of them.

The obvious implication in all this is that he had two shots and is baiting the kill if town.

Just letting you know, this is the kind of thing that you don't share in this chat.

You never know who is watching

 

[Aeleus]

@weemadarthur could you give us an update on your medium results?

 

[weemadarthur]

@weemadarthur could you give us an update on your medium results?

The dead still don’t think nin should die and it’s not morning so I don’t have last night’s responses. And I am bright enough to not share things where anyone may be watching if I don’t wanna.

 

[weemadarthur]

Ynnek's reasoning for not using a shot on D3 sucks - he was concerned about five other people sharing the room with him but he already had scanned two of them.

The obvious implication in all this is that he had two shots and is baiting the kill if town.

The other obvious implication COULD be that ynnek lied about his role, because he is scum. And that’s why blarg died. (I figure zipped woulda got got either way).

Partly I think I didn’t like his “support fanto” move because it looked like sucking up rather than helping.

 

[weemadarthur]

But why is nin absolutely reading enough to make random responses showing he’s paying attention, but yet, isn’t THERE.

 

[weemadarthur]

For maolfunction to be scum, the entire scum team would have had to be making a master plan of maol being a potential “last man standing” with the option of giving a gun to town, because he conflicted heavily with all the flipped mafia.

For kyanrute to be mafia, something similar, except kyan’s alleged role is....not nearly as town aligned looking. A repeat double voter could be anything, double vote to scum is not that uncommon. It’s not a good play if the claim is supposed to save the team member in a pinch.

 

[weemadarthur]

Now ynnek is in a room with me and A, i don’t move at night and neither does A. What is the point of ynnek’s decision here? (Or am I wwrong and kyan is in here, I didn’t look, this is from memory). It means ynnek is wasting his own role as written.

 

[weemadarthur]

Or checking up on us, but like, we’re not the ones kenny claims to think are scum, right? I’ll go look again.

 

[weemadarthur]

No i was right. What’s he hoping to check, here?

 

[weemadarthur]

How DID turmoil get fanto’d again? I guess playing scummy works for the role tho. Better to be team killed for the bonus?

 

[weemadarthur]

I don’t get feps arguing with A about why he doesn’t scumread A enough, lol. The

 

[Kyanrute]

Just letting you know, this is the kind of thing that you don't share in this chat.
You never know who is watching

I don't think it matters that much. I operate on the basis that whatever I can deduce, the parties with more information would or at least should be able to do as well.