Mason Thread Roman Brothers

[Geno]

Welcome!

 

[Verelios]

My friend! Let us leave to Caesar what is Caesar's and leave to Rome what belongs to Rome! We shall carve the world between us.

 

[Kyanrute]

Ave Caesar!

 

[Verelios]

How do you feel about Asia?

 

[Kyanrute]

Asia? My impression is that there will be blood. What do you think about allying each other at start? We could of course try to go for a great Asian townie hugbox with us as its hidden core and both ally a second person instead. It'd could be the more powerful move but would tie us to fully unknown comrades, possibly for life.

 

[Kyanrute]

BTW: beloved, Southern Europe, I have a second in command - Octavian, I gain +1 to Octavian's attack rolls if I control Southern Europe.

 

[Kyanrute]

Gaining more than +3 via territories / 3 seems impossible before the player count is thinned to half or something. Continent bonuses seem to be more achievable short term, at least the smaller ones. The winners of Oceanian thunderdome for one could be in a good spot if they can consolidate Oceania + Siam to themselves with coordinated alliance breaking and re-establishing.

 

[Verelios]

Asia? My impression is that there will be blood. What do you think about allying each other at start? We could of course try to go for a great Asian townie hugbox with us as its hidden core and both ally a second person instead. It'd could be the more powerful move but would tie us to fully unknown comrades, possibly for life.

That's a good idea. Let's hold off on allying until the day almost ends so we can see of we can co-exist with some of our friends and form a hidden core. Depending though, I'll still need to war against a neighbor to get out of Japan.

 

[Verelios]

BTW: beloved, Southern Europe, I have a second in command - Octavian, I gain +1 to Octavian's attack rolls if I control Southern Europe.

Oh, that's interesting. I get a +1 on all defending dice rolls if I control Southern Europe.

 

[Verelios]

Gaining more than +3 via territories / 3 seems impossible before the player count is thinned to half or something. Continent bonuses seem to be more achievable short term, at least the smaller ones. The winners of Oceanian thunderdome for one could be in a good spot if they can consolidate Oceania + Siam to themselves with coordinated alliance breaking and re-establishing.

It depends. For example, it seems pretty likely that some people in NA will be able to get anywhere from 4 to 5 territories because of how people are spaced out. Remember that after the first day we're able to move every 12 hours starting from day 2, which is about 3 times per day. We'll need to be extra careful about them.

 

[Kyanrute]

Oh, that's interesting. I get a +1 on all defending dice rolls if I control Southern Europe.

Makes sense, ally to get the full benefit or don't ally and gain power in the shadows via a wider alliance. A cute little balance thing. I'm game waiting until the day end with the alliance, no need to hurry about it when we know nothing.

It depends. For example, it seems pretty likely that some people in NA will be able to get anywhere from 4 to 5 territories because of how people are spaced out. Remember that after the first day we're able to move every 12 hours starting from day 2, which is about 3 times per day. We'll need to be extra careful about them.

True. The less populated continents will act as fault lines that make the board move. Moves to grab, to counter-grab and moves to block. Formal and informal alliances seem necessary to protect oneself, otherwise the first mover is at a disadvantage because they have to leave a battalion behind on attack and move.

 

[Verelios]

Makes sense, ally to get the full benefit or don't ally and gain power in the shadows via a wider alliance. A cute little balance thing. I'm game waiting until the day end with the alliance, no need to hurry about it when we know nothing.

True. The less populated continents will act as fault lines that make the board move. Moves to grab, to counter-grab and moves to block. Formal and informal alliances seem necessary to protect oneself, otherwise the first mover is at a disadvantage because they have to leave a battalion behind on attack and move.

We should wait and see. It isn't likely that people will attack others immediately, but everyone next to an uninhabitated territory will start off for sure. Whoever attacks in hotly contested areas though runs the risk of being ganged on.

Who in asia do you think is good for an informal alliance?

 

[Kyanrute]

"Interested in a HUGBOX? Feel the need to protect your BEHIND as you move your battalions in FRIENDLY TRAINING EXERCISES? Want to lay the ground-work for a PAN-ASIAN ALLIANCE? A HOT ASIAN is looking for three great HISTORICAL FIGURES for some GROUP ACTIVITY!"

Players interested in joining this hugbox should quote this ad and state their terms, if any. D1 non-aggression pact is expected of the members of the hugbox. The potential joiners should have the majority of their battalions in Asia or in territories directly bordering Asia. The exact terms of the hugbox are to be negotiated between the members upon agreement over the establishment of the said hugbox.

 

[Kyanrute]

I'd say almost anyone is good for an informal alliance but I'd bar Zipped because he has no battalions nor a general. I'd also be at least slightly hesitant to go with Muffin or Jman because they can play rather wild card-ish but / and both do happen to hold meaningful positions on the map.

Fran is surrounded on all sides, he should want friends.

Having Jman or Terra on our side would be good, that could make exodus Japan a more safe move.

 

[Verelios]

"Interested in a HUGBOX? Feel the need to protect your BEHIND as you move your battalions in FRIENDLY TRAINING EXERCISES? Want to lay the ground-work for a PAN-ASIAN ALLIANCE? A HOT ASIAN is looking for three great HISTORICAL FIGURES for some GROUP ACTIVITY!"

Players interested in joining this hugbox should quote this ad and state their terms, if any. D1 non-aggression pact is expected of the members of the hugbox. The potential joiners should have the majority of their battalions in Asia or in territories directly bordering Asia. The exact terms of the hugbox are to be negotiated between the members upon agreement over the establishment of the said hugbox.

Haha, I love this.

 

[Verelios]

I'd say almost anyone is good for an informal alliance but I'd bar Zipped because he has no battalions nor a general. I'd also be at least slightly hesitant to go with Muffin or Jman because they can play rather wild card-ish but / and both do happen to hold meaningful positions on the map.

Fran is surrounded on all sides, he should want friends.

Having Jman or Terra on our side would be good, that could make exodus Japan a more safe move.

I see, Jman already seems to be sounding out his neighbors and I'm betting he'll try and start off alliances early. If it comes down to it, would you rather ally with Jman or Muffin?

 

[Kyanrute]

Jman. Muffin is railroaded into blocking Oceania either passively or by pushing a knife against Oceanian consolidation. Jman can go NA or Asia and he can help with exodus Japan.

 

[Verelios]

Jman. Muffin is railroaded into blocking Oceania either passively or by pushing a knife against Oceanian consolidation. Jman can go NA or Asia and he can help with exodus Japan.

Alright, let's see what game start has to offer us then. I'm sure someone is going to offer a wacky initiative with this roster.

 

[Kyanrute]

Someone will attack and that will cause all hell to go loose.

 

[Verelios]

Oh man, I hope it's no one in Asia. That would make frothing waves.

 

[Verelios]

So, I have an option of allying with jman or Terra. With Jman we can get into NA and box in Terra between us. With Terra...what do we get?

 

[Kyanrute]

Terra blurted out that he has a 2nd in command, slight town points there.

 

[Kyanrute]

Damn it, it is "Can there be a peace between us?", not "Could there be peace between us?"

boohoo

 

[Verelios]

Haha. I'll set up an alliance with Jman then.

 

[Kyanrute]

I have no idea about anyone.

 

[Verelios]

What do you think of Launch? Just surface reads are fine.

 

[Kyanrute]

I don't play a good town game at all, just so you know.

He allied with Stu, not that anybody else between Oceania and Africa would've done so. He is staying a bit on the side and it might actually be for a good reason.

 

[Kyanrute]

I am curious about how others seem to put great value in their origin territories.

Cult, just get me. I promise to get you in as well btw.

 

[Verelios]

Lol, I would die if there was a cult. It makes sense though, for some historical figures.

 

[Verelios]

I don't play a good town game at all, just so you know.

He allied with Stu, not that anybody else between Oceania and Africa would've done so. He is staying a bit on the side and it might actually be for a good reason.

Hm...a good reason that's beneficial to town or beneficial to him?

 

[Kyanrute]

I don't know Launch's play well enough to tell, it could be either.

 

[Verelios]

Fair, it certaintly does seem like Launch is being quite pleasant.

 

[Kyanrute]

Jman wants to own bits of two continents and then he can do ???.

Shit guesses, episode one.

 

[Verelios]

It seems like he might want a certain number of territories rather than a bonus. It's possible that he could be doing something to those areas, and that's why he called his role scum-like and 3 days are needed.

 

[Kyanrute]

Does he do all that antagonizing against Chuggs if he just needs random territories? Shouldn't he play both sides so he could possibly go Asia or NA to get his n number of territories?

Hard to tell.

 

[Kyanrute]

Yeah, there is something off about me. I am a mason! And yes, dear audience, I do know this kind of play is not optimal. It is fun though.

Dang these get out of jail free cards are good.

 

[Verelios]

Very complicated though. Maybe we should have went into an alliance together to begin with.

 

[Kyanrute]

It might've been the correct play. We should get a hint about that on D2 start.

 

[Kyanrute]

Losing Launch will hurt a lot if he is town. So many of the conversations revolve around him.

 

[Verelios]

It will. But he seems to be trying to bandwagon on reads rather than make them himself. I haven't played with town launch but is he like this usually?

 

[Kyanrute]

I have two games with him, one where I died N1 and the other game was years ago. I have no meta read on him.

Bandwagoning a fair way of putting it, I was thinking myself that while he talks a lot, nobody is really following his arguments and targets.

 

[Verelios]

I have two games with him, one where I died N1 and the other game was years ago. I have no meta read on him.

Bandwagoning a fair way of putting it, I was thinking myself that while he talks a lot, nobody is really following his arguments and targets.

Hm. So it might be hard to tell if he's being genuine here.

 

[Kyanrute]

You think we should vote for the same target, sans day end madness? I don't mind Launch and I am starting to think that Polter is going to be a mislynch.

 

[Verelios]

Hm. How sure are you on Polter?

 

[Verelios]

As for the target, I trust your instincts there. Sometimes I'm way off and end up digging town into a hole, so hopefully you can pull me back whenever that happens.

 

[Kyanrute]

Well I can't reverse my stance today anymore lol but those few posts of his are now giving me second thoughts. He could be scum in a unfortunate position where he can't defend himself because of RL things. Then again, there hasn't yet been too much of a Polter defense force either sooooo... 60t/40s?

MY instincts? Have I ever played a good town game? I don't want to say it, but I fear the answer might be no lol. I don't think the vote coordination matters too much really, I think we can get by without it even if one of us dies and the other has to claim in response. Could be a thing for vote analysis though.

 

[Verelios]

Well I can't reverse my stance today anymore lol but those few posts of his are now giving me second thoughts. He could be scum in a unfortunate position where he can't defend himself because of RL things. Then again, there hasn't yet been too much of a Polter defense force either sooooo... 60t/40s?

MY instincts? Have I ever played a good town game? I don't want to say it, but I fear the answer might be no lol. I don't think the vote coordination matters too much really, I think we can get by without it even if one of us dies and the other has to claim in response. Could be a thing for vote analysis though.

Hey, hey, I remember kyaa being pretty good at sussing out scum, even in an unconventional way.

I think those odds are enough for today.

 

[Verelios]

Almost day end and we have a couple viable wagons. It looks like things can go anywhere at the moment.

 

[Kyanrute]

With the boost to malus' train, this is going to be chaotic.

 

[Verelios]

I still don't see where malus train is coming from. It's a terrible lunch.

 

[Kyanrute]

Is it?

 

[Kyanrute]

We should try to snipe him so we have a chance of getting SE.

 

[Kyanrute]

I think he'll flip as town though and this is just him being angry about the reason he was killed.

 

[Verelios]

Nice job, you're now 1 space away from SE if Malus fails his attack.

 

[Verelios]

I think he'll flip as town though and this is just him being angry about the reason he was killed.

But it still makes no sense why he didn't go after...anyone else on him.

 

[Kyanrute]

Oh and is the rule actually just the last voter, as in it does not matter to whom the vote goes?

 

[Verelios]

No, seems to be the last person on the train.

 

[Kyanrute]

Meh, missed the 33%. Oh well, still got land.

 

[Verelios]

Now you're eating good. Just make sure to get SE tomorrow if no one snipes it.

 

[Kyanrute]

But it still makes no sense why he didn't go after...anyone else on him.

Hmm. That would've been Kalor then. Maybe malus' territory of origin was North Africa?

 

[Kyanrute]

No, he just picked something and went for it.

 

[Verelios]

Absolutely baffling.

 

[Kyanrute]

Ok, the best case scenario is to spawn three in Egypt, move two to SE. Don't expect it to be that easy but at least we are closer than at day start.

 

[Kyanrute]

And the snipe races will become more hectic now that I pulled one off.

 

[Verelios]

Thankfully you only needed this one.

 

[Verelios]

Now we have to be careful of town and scum...

 

[Kyanrute]

Ooh, free troops as well yaaay.

@Geno You reading this thread too? Is something like Reinforce: [Target territory] fine for the reinforcement command or do you want to keep that hidden so everyone can have a cool copypaste battle at day start? Also, can you follow the reinforcement command immediately with a move command in the same post?

 

[Geno]

Plan is for me to make a map when actions lock so you can reinforce before day starts, either way I'll give an hour after day starts where no movement or attacks are allowed for reinforcing, the command is fine

 

[Kyanrute]

Cool, thanks.

 

[Verelios]

You think your isolated troops are going to be attacked?

 

[Kyanrute]

They do make for a good target. Calling more than that with every night mechanic being 100% unknown is hard. If anything, I am hoping we can tell something about the mechanics from the way the attacks and moves go.

 

[Kyanrute]

Ehh, now that I think of it, are they a good target if meanies care about exposing generals? Do they care about exposing generals?

I have no idea!

 

[Verelios]

Ehh, now that I think of it, are they a good target if meanies care about exposing generals? Do they care about exposing generals?

I have no idea!

Maybe. If night attacks happen and they don't need to border you, maybe they'll take the time to whittle you down.

 

[Verelios]

They do make for a good target. Calling more than that with every night mechanic being 100% unknown is hard. If anything, I am hoping we can tell something about the mechanics from the way the attacks and moves go.

Day start is going to be my barometer to see how things progress. Let's hope we didn't get hit overnight.

 

[Kyanrute]

Chugg is dead and there is weird shit on the map on the territories he controlled at some point in the game. Jman lost Alaska to the weird things and went -3. Ynnek or someone scorched GB, Ynnek went -4. nin got +1.

Odd instead of extreme.

 

[Kyanrute]

No moves, but the board was quite full and I don't think people would want to reveal that they can move during the night just yet.

 

[Verelios]

My mind is full of what. What is up with that egg? WTF happened to GB? WTF is going to happen to Canada!?

 

[Kyanrute]

...we should encourage jman to attack the egg.

am sure nothing bad would happen

no way

 

[Verelios]

Well, something needs to be done about it. I'm uneasy leaving it alone.

 

[Kyanrute]

jman will save us

he wanted alaska, he should want it back

jman, the hero of earth

 

[Verelios]

Lol, I somehow doubt things are going to be that easy.

 

[Kyanrute]

EGG WINS!

I am glad I put my money on Egg.

 

[Verelios]

Lol, oh boy. Guess I have to attack it now.

 

[Kyanrute]

You too.

GOOOOOOOOOOO EGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!

 

[Kyanrute]

Hey, we never need to ally for that +1 defensive roll if you don't have any battalions, so that's good.

 

[Verelios]

Lol, I'm not down and out just yet.

 

[Kyanrute]

4200-14000 soldiers versus an egg.

 

[Kyanrute]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Kyanrute]

you killed egg :(((

 

[Verelios]

Wonderba!

 

[Kyanrute]

Note to self: Hedin spends too much time in Risk-land.

 

[Verelios]

What has hedin done today?

 

[Kyanrute]

I am like two pages behind again but he said something about his NE theory and how he was hesitant to drop it still. Not sure if there was anything else.

 

[Verelios]

Blarg is putting a lot of thought into solidifying his position. He either wants security (more territory) or more power by allying with Fran or occupying Australia.

 

[Kyanrute]

And it could just be Blarg. The grand explanation behind it all might just be theoretical for now, even in his head.

 

[Verelios]

True, it's possible.

 

[Kyanrute]

oh it is the i hate town part of every game

 

[Verelios]

Is Polter town?

 

[Kyanrute]

Does it matter? Aren't we at the point where we have to take a stance on whether or not we allow anti-town behavior? We can't kill him on the board today.

A scummy move vs. would scum really do that?

 

[Kyanrute]

Can't we kill Polter today? Fanto takes Central America, Kawl or LP needs to roll big on Brazil re-take, the other hopefully rolls a 5 / 6 when attacking Venezuela.