LaunchpadMcQ
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I wonder if Kopite will forget to swap his general to another territory before day end 
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Hawthorn
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Very relieved to have the switcher out of the way!!
Stan, you're right, neutrals are food, not friends. Forgot to be evil for a sec!
Tomorrow will be the day of open warfare, really wish I hadn't wasted all my armies killing godzilla, I just got caught up in the moment.
If Kopite forgets to move his general we can NK him, then either I or puppetmon can take over Oceania & get the continent bonus :-D
Dreading the pressure to mass claim. FWIW the one I was thinking of for myself is still just my own flavor and my 2-shot role cop power, saying that I investigated Launchpad (explaining why I waffled on my read & also why I was so down on the plan to test the traps) and Kopite the night I actually did (I didn't claim to defend him b/c everyone pretty much seemed to believe him).
We can figure it out over the night. It would be great if they try to daykill Fran or Nin and then vote out the other one.
Stan, you're right, neutrals are food, not friends. Forgot to be evil for a sec!
Tomorrow will be the day of open warfare, really wish I hadn't wasted all my armies killing godzilla, I just got caught up in the moment.
If Kopite forgets to move his general we can NK him, then either I or puppetmon can take over Oceania & get the continent bonus :-D
Dreading the pressure to mass claim. FWIW the one I was thinking of for myself is still just my own flavor and my 2-shot role cop power, saying that I investigated Launchpad (explaining why I waffled on my read & also why I was so down on the plan to test the traps) and Kopite the night I actually did (I didn't claim to defend him b/c everyone pretty much seemed to believe him).
We can figure it out over the night. It would be great if they try to daykill Fran or Nin and then vote out the other one.
LaunchpadMcQ
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I think after knowing the alignment cop, the role cop is going to sound like a scum role. I would be really wary of claiming that imo. I would sooner recommend doubling up on a role like MrHedin’s dice booster thing for a specific continent.
Stantastic
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right i shoud probably sleep before i blurt out the whole scum team.
GL with the murders yall
GL with the murders yall
LaunchpadMcQ
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It is so good when you hold off town long enough, they start losing their minds
LaunchpadMcQ
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Stantastic said:
omg
Stantastic
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This is fukin incredible. Like how close are we to majority with all these risk deaths?
Hawthorn
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The fact that you can wait indefinitely to continue an attack could actually be used as a defensive maneuver. Attack someone and let the continue hang out there forever, bubbling them off from attacks by others, or preventing them from attacking.
There are 16 players left, of which we are 4, so we're 25% of the vote. But our win condition is to "eliminate all threats to mafia"...
There are 16 players left, of which we are 4, so we're 25% of the vote. But our win condition is to "eliminate all threats to mafia"...
If I see it's done intentionally I'll stop the attack.
Hawthorn
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Fair enough, I guess it would kind of go against the spirit of the rules
In class so I haven't caught everything, but I glance and saw Fran doubling down and Kawl killing Uzzy out of nowhere. Doubly oof. If we lose even after playing this well, we deserve some kind of consolation prize. Town has killed 7 of their own and only got 1 of us due to a lucky cop scan.
Also nice eye hawth. I just assume our goal is what it usually is for mafia, but instead it specifies all threats are eliminated.
*assumed
LaunchpadMcQ
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LaunchpadMcQ
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Oh dear. Try to copy Hedin’s roleclaim with a different country/continent and bonus. I think Terra has his roleclaim ready. Stan will be asleep
LaunchpadMcQ
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Terra said he’d do commuter or something for the investigation immunity.
Im sweating bullets here. I didn’t think they’d ask me what my bonus was.
Im sweating bullets here. I didn’t think they’d ask me what my bonus was.
Hawthorn
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Here is Hedin's role:
Your role is Town 3 Shot Dice Booster, 3 times in days you can send in the private command Boost for your next attack to have a +2 on the attacking dice roll.
Mine could be: the same but for defense; exactly the same (bad idea I think, but maybe they'll think mafia would never claim a duplicate role b/c it's too suspicious); the same but +1 with 4 shots; the same but I can boost other players (can look back at past results & claim I used it a few times-- maybe I helped weemadarthur!!)
Country of origin Ukraine, and the bonus is some special ability I can only use in Europe, but I never got to Europe.
I like the "used on other players" variation or the "defense" variation best.
Also I am supposed to be doing work this afternoon, crazy pressure to reply right away from TP!
Your claimed bonus is so complicated that nobody will follow up on it LOL
Your role is Town 3 Shot Dice Booster, 3 times in days you can send in the private command Boost for your next attack to have a +2 on the attacking dice roll.
Mine could be: the same but for defense; exactly the same (bad idea I think, but maybe they'll think mafia would never claim a duplicate role b/c it's too suspicious); the same but +1 with 4 shots; the same but I can boost other players (can look back at past results & claim I used it a few times-- maybe I helped weemadarthur!!)
Country of origin Ukraine, and the bonus is some special ability I can only use in Europe, but I never got to Europe.
I like the "used on other players" variation or the "defense" variation best.
Also I am supposed to be doing work this afternoon, crazy pressure to reply right away from TP!
Your claimed bonus is so complicated that nobody will follow up on it LOL
LaunchpadMcQ
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I don’t have time to review it right now. @Terraforce are you available? If not, use your beat judgment
shit shit shit lol
I can review your fakeclaim since no one else is here, sure.
I just hope I didnt get too ballsy with my own claim. I claimed to start in my origin territory haha. I'm hoping they buy it because it seems so stupidly unlikely that no one would fake it. As far as I read I didn't see Geno say you can't start in your territory of origin so I'll just have to hope and pray it works lol
I just hope I didnt get too ballsy with my own claim. I claimed to start in my origin territory haha. I'm hoping they buy it because it seems so stupidly unlikely that no one would fake it. As far as I read I didn't see Geno say you can't start in your territory of origin so I'll just have to hope and pray it works lol
If you're claiming this, I'd go with the boosting other players concept. Only problem is that seems like something you can so easily fake, and they're definitely going to want to test it at some point.
lol THANK YOU TP for buying the claim. Trying to skirt by and having the town cop backing me up is always nice to help.
LaunchpadMcQ
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This dude buys you guys’ claims no problem and gives me a hard time for something I would legitimately ask the moderator and might I add i had actual confusion about wrt Hawthorn’s role??
Puns when you read this: PLEASE
Puns when you read this: PLEASE
Heh nice. Not too different from what I did for my flavor. I knew genghis khan was too obvious so I went for someone else tied to mongolia. I'm glad as hell I didn't go with Genghis since that's who LP is. That would have been bad lol
Hawthorn
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Oh shit, I just realized I made a huge mistake in my claim. I said I can only use it once per day, but I said "I fortified Terra's attack on one of the dinosaurs on Day 3 because I wanted to get rid of the dinos, little did I know that I should have saved it for Godzilla. Then I fortified Kalor's attack on Ynnek today"
I was so sure that the last dino/godzilla attack happened on day 3, but it was today, this long day phase has totally thrown me off, meaning that I described myself as using 2 shots today.
If anyone follows up on LP's posts I'm going to say I was referring to an earlier dino attack on day 2 and got confused, then I didn't use it on godzilla because I wasn't quick enough
But that was really really sloppy & might get me voted out. I'm so sorry if that happens!!!
I was so sure that the last dino/godzilla attack happened on day 3, but it was today, this long day phase has totally thrown me off, meaning that I described myself as using 2 shots today.
If anyone follows up on LP's posts I'm going to say I was referring to an earlier dino attack on day 2 and got confused, then I didn't use it on godzilla because I wasn't quick enough
But that was really really sloppy & might get me voted out. I'm so sorry if that happens!!!
lol you're good. LP is perceptive. I'm surprised he's the only one calling you out, but works out for us lol
Hawthorn
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I know! I can't believe LP's the only one who's seeing this, there are so many holes. I have a post typed out to reply to questions but I'm not going to post it until tomorrow unless I get more scrutiny. We can all workshop our fake claims a bit over the night, if we survive, fingers crossed, knock on wood
LaunchpadMcQ
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This is going south for him. I had to get on the train.
Hawthorn
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LaunchpadMcQ
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I’m glad I got in on that. I want to see Puns try to piece that together
Damn I wish stan was at least here till tomorrow. I was hoping he could get away with attacking D5 before he died. He had quite the army built up.
We're really on the backfoot here. All three of us are rather high on the lynch totem pole. One of our saving graces is that me and Launch have been butting heads so hard all game it might seem difficult to pair us as scumbuds if one of us flips. We played very well up until now, but we're a bit low on offense.
We're really on the backfoot here. All three of us are rather high on the lynch totem pole. One of our saving graces is that me and Launch have been butting heads so hard all game it might seem difficult to pair us as scumbuds if one of us flips. We played very well up until now, but we're a bit low on offense.
LaunchpadMcQ
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We have definitely played it well. I think we still have enough of us left to win, but it’s going to be tight.
Im waiting for the new map, but Kopite didn’t move, did he?
LaunchpadMcQ
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Saw the map. He did move. Fuuuu
LaunchpadMcQ
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Zipped did not move. It's got to be him tonight.
LaunchpadMcQ
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Kopite said:
Hawthorn
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I can't disagree. I don't think Zipped is really as influential a voice as some others, but we can't have so many confirmed or pseudo-confirmed players around.
Another thing I messed up with my claim is that LP rolled several ones on the roll that I supposedly gave him +2 to, so now I have to say that the modifier only applies to the first roll of the set, or it doesn't apply to ones, or some other limiter. He will definitely go back and check.
I don't think anyone checked Terra, so the commuter claim should be ok. The starting in your bonus territory thing sells it-- it's just weird enough to think nobody would make it up & fits with Geno saying we were put in our territories randomly. Launch's claim is already confirmed and people seem to buy that it could be a town power.
I think tomorrow we should attack as much as possible with thin justifications. Everyone else will be doing it. I don't know if I could get away with attacking Kopite, though if it seems like I'm going to be voted off, I will take Kopite down with me with my conquer action. I might publicly ask your permission, Launchpad, to go through Siam and move into Europe. You guys are right next to each other, unfortunately, but there are plenty of other plausible targets, most notably Fran.
I might as well use my role cop action again, if there's anyone we think might be faking their claim? Another neutral? Then we could put pressure on them.
Terra IMO ninja attacking tonight is also a good idea, but I'm not sure where you would want to go. Same with Launchpad's trap.
Today was tough!!
Another thing I messed up with my claim is that LP rolled several ones on the roll that I supposedly gave him +2 to, so now I have to say that the modifier only applies to the first roll of the set, or it doesn't apply to ones, or some other limiter. He will definitely go back and check.
I don't think anyone checked Terra, so the commuter claim should be ok. The starting in your bonus territory thing sells it-- it's just weird enough to think nobody would make it up & fits with Geno saying we were put in our territories randomly. Launch's claim is already confirmed and people seem to buy that it could be a town power.
I think tomorrow we should attack as much as possible with thin justifications. Everyone else will be doing it. I don't know if I could get away with attacking Kopite, though if it seems like I'm going to be voted off, I will take Kopite down with me with my conquer action. I might publicly ask your permission, Launchpad, to go through Siam and move into Europe. You guys are right next to each other, unfortunately, but there are plenty of other plausible targets, most notably Fran.
I might as well use my role cop action again, if there's anyone we think might be faking their claim? Another neutral? Then we could put pressure on them.
Terra IMO ninja attacking tonight is also a good idea, but I'm not sure where you would want to go. Same with Launchpad's trap.
Today was tough!!
LaunchpadMcQ
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@Geno can I lay a trap and perform the faction kill on the same night?
The commuter claim seems solid, but I wonder if folks will start picking it apart given more time.
As for attacking, I'd like to read the room a bit first. It might be to our benefit to hold off on attacking. Town learned a hard lesson D4 with Jman and Uzzy dead. They were really hesitant to go further. The fewer players there are, the less likely it is that anyone is going to go wild. Terra and I have a good force between the two of us; you need to build yours up a bit, but you do have the Conquer ability. If things hit the fan, that might be the way out of it.
As for role cop, I have no idea. Maybe Puns to see how many shots he has left, but otherwise everyone seems to have claimed and not have really interesting abilities.
I also don't know how many times Terra will be able to night attack without anyone wondering why he hasn't attacked me yet. Does anyone have any idea what the best action there is? Also, the ninja ability only works for the faction kill :/
RE: Zipped, yeah I don't disagree. My preference is Puns, but he will undoubtedly be protected by Kopite since Jman is dead. I do wonder if Puns is out of shots, since everyone seems to have 3 shots. Either way, I'm not sure he would trust a result from me if he did choose me, so hopefully he did not choose either of you two.
The commuter claim seems solid, but I wonder if folks will start picking it apart given more time.
As for attacking, I'd like to read the room a bit first. It might be to our benefit to hold off on attacking. Town learned a hard lesson D4 with Jman and Uzzy dead. They were really hesitant to go further. The fewer players there are, the less likely it is that anyone is going to go wild. Terra and I have a good force between the two of us; you need to build yours up a bit, but you do have the Conquer ability. If things hit the fan, that might be the way out of it.
As for role cop, I have no idea. Maybe Puns to see how many shots he has left, but otherwise everyone seems to have claimed and not have really interesting abilities.
I also don't know how many times Terra will be able to night attack without anyone wondering why he hasn't attacked me yet. Does anyone have any idea what the best action there is? Also, the ninja ability only works for the faction kill :/
It's hard to pick apart a commuter claim unless i'm straight up inconsistent about it. It's just a matter if they believe me or not.
But yeah, shant be attacking tonight. Puns is probably out of shots, but rolecopping him wouldn't hurt. Slim pickings with the mass claim and all.
The reason I agreed with Zipped lynch is because she's low info and we're not taking chances with Puns. Wee would also not be a terrible option. I might prefer her to Zipped actually.
Either of you have a running tally of who Kopite targeted last night?
i said lynch but i meant night kill whoops
LaunchpadMcQ
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Hold on, going to need to look at this again at the computer. Kopite said some stuff before he realized how his role worked correctly.
LaunchpadMcQ
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Kopite's targets so far, which takes Zipped out of the equation. I do not think Kopite is totally sold on wee's claim, so I would be ok with killing her. Actually, wee is the only target that makes sense now. Verelios would be a risk too, because even though Kopite did not mention him, he posted this list when Jman was still alive and Puns did not reveal his result.
Don't know what this is in reference to.
Thanks for that Launch. I agree. So looks like I'll be Ninja'ing wee then.
If he can trap and kill on the same night
LaunchpadMcQ
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I don’t think you can reach wee(?). It will have to be me, ironic since we just got the long range kill and yet wee is right next to me.
Zipped's he, you got 1 strike.
LaunchpadMcQ
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KILL: Ural
Someone double check that for me on wee.
Someone double check that for me on wee.
I was talking about wee in the same sentence, it was clearly a mistake on my part.
Seems right to me. You sure you didn't want to trap and me do the kill?
Hawthorn
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I looked over the map and yes, it has to be in Ural, which only Launch is adjacent to. I don't think it matters too much about the long range kill-- with the way Natiko and Stan's pms read, I don't think the theory is really out there anymore that the mafia kill has to be adjacent. The most important thing about having the long range kill is that we can kill who we want, and wee is the best person. If we're sure she's not protected. She didn't move her general, which is good. But we can't necessarily trust Kopite's statements about his plans, he might choose to protect Wee instead of LP or someone, particularly if he thinks she has shots left. He may have changed everything around after Jman died. (I love the chart though!! Good to have the info.)
The trouble is, the only people that Kopite wouldn't consider protecting, we don't want to kill, because they have suspicion on them. So we have to take a risk one way or another. I'm ok with the Wee plan.
The trouble is, the only people that Kopite wouldn't consider protecting, we don't want to kill, because they have suspicion on them. So we have to take a risk one way or another. I'm ok with the Wee plan.
Yeah I thought so.
Hawthorn
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People other than us whose claims haven't pretty much been proven: LP (claimed miller with no other abilities), Reki (no claim), Nin (ability to cancel attacks), Kalor (ability only activates when on last territory). Other than Kalor, who was cleared by TP, any of those people might be neutral. Or any of them might be lying about their ability even if town. I could investigate one of them, just to get more info? Preference would be LP. I don't think miller with no other abilities is likely and I want to take him down b/c of his suspicion of me LOL. Also could do TP, but I think it's very unlikely that he has more than 3 shots.
LaunchpadMcQ
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If you check LP and he is just a miller, we will get no further information. I’m not convinced he is not a miller and also he’s a pretty strong town voice currently; it would be hard to discredit him.
I missed that detail about Kalor, that would not be a bad check to know what to expect.
Hawthorn
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I think LP is a miller, I just think that he has an additional role also. Kalor did make a full claim, he said that he gets an extra 5 battalions when he's down to one territory (but it doesn't work if he stays on his starting territory, he has to gain some then lose some). Impossible to prove + weird sounding, so it might be a lie. I'm up for checking it. I'll put the command in now in case I forget, we can change it later if we want to.
rolecop: Kalor
rolecop: Kalor
LaunchpadMcQ
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Oooh I missed the full claim either way.
Jeez, I don’t even know. Sadly, seems like it’s become a bit pointless with all the full claims out there. Maybe Puns or Reki would be better after all.
Hawthorn
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I think Reki just missed claiming because of time zones, they'll face pressure to claim today.
There's just no way Puns has 4 shots in my opinion. I'd rather stick with Kalor or maybe do Nin, but yeah, it's more likely that we are the only remaining liars out there so the investigation will sadly be pointless.
There's just no way Puns has 4 shots in my opinion. I'd rather stick with Kalor or maybe do Nin, but yeah, it's more likely that we are the only remaining liars out there so the investigation will sadly be pointless.
LaunchpadMcQ
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You’re right. Idek. We probably won’t be getting anything new anyway, but I trust your judgement.
LaunchpadMcQ
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True
Launch I get you want to keep up the act, but you're bussing a bit hard there mate. We're down low so just make sure you're smart about it.
If one between me and Launch dies, this game will probably go to mylo/lylo. Depending on how much damage one of us does on the way out.
Although me and Launch are in an especially precarious position since we're already adjacent. That means we might have to both attack each other on the way out to keep up the act. Depends on how we position this.
Although me and Launch are in an especially precarious position since we're already adjacent. That means we might have to both attack each other on the way out to keep up the act. Depends on how we position this.
Best case scenario that is. Worse case scenario we just lose lol. Hopefully we can kill Zipped before it comes to that.
That would be fine normally no doubt. But currently Launch is bussing me to hell so it would look mad sus if out of the blue he didn't touch me. Vice versa for me, although between the two of us I could definitely get away with attacking more of my other neighbors than Launch could.
But there's enough perceptive players in our community that it would raise a massive red flag if we don't play this right.
LaunchpadMcQ
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I read over Puns' posts from before day end since he's been town leader for a bit now. He is not suspecting you, and I am trying to make the distance between us stay there. I will be careful.
If one of us is on the way out, we should absolutely attack the other one.
We need an updated map. I have no clue where puppetmon is. And where everyone else stands.
LaunchpadMcQ
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What did you all have in mind for Puppetmon?
Hawthorn
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Puppetmon should be in Ural. Options are:
-Attack TP in Afghanistan, could win, but wouldn't kill him as his territories are pretty spread out
-Attack Kalor in Ukraine, same deal
-Move to Siberia and attack Verelios, same deal
-Attack Launchpad in China, con: would lose troops, pro: Puppetmon would become a true member of the team by bussing someone
Not many good options, but we'd better attack asap. I think everyone has forgotten about puppetmon because there's not a map update. TP?
-Attack TP in Afghanistan, could win, but wouldn't kill him as his territories are pretty spread out
-Attack Kalor in Ukraine, same deal
-Move to Siberia and attack Verelios, same deal
-Attack Launchpad in China, con: would lose troops, pro: Puppetmon would become a true member of the team by bussing someone
Not many good options, but we'd better attack asap. I think everyone has forgotten about puppetmon because there's not a map update. TP?
LaunchpadMcQ
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Yep Vere was my thought as well. TP and Kalor are too spread out to do a significant amount of damage so we may as well go for something more than that. It'll make it easier for me to finish him off anyway.
LaunchpadMcQ
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Did you mean move 3?
LaunchpadMcQ
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oops nevermind lol
No idea what the hell TP is doing. This'll make a nice distraction at the very least.
LaunchpadMcQ
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lmao I knew he was going to go a different way, but I don’t think I could’ve expected that
LaunchpadMcQ
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I actually haven’t replied in the thread because I don’t want to keep fighting you, Terra. It sucks :(
haha it's cool. I still expect to be lynched today regardless of what TP is doing now. MAYBE until tomorrow at the most, but my days are numbered.
LaunchpadMcQ
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Puppetmon still has a fighting spirit apparently