Scum Thread The Lair of The Lost

Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
I also strongly suggest we kill Kyanrute today, all of us are under relevant suspection and we need to keep the lunch pool as wide as possible. Between Ambulance and Kyan, Kyan has been the better player.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Maolfunction said:
No, I'm done trying to convince town it's a bad idea to listen to scum. You opened the game telling off Gorlak for targeting the good players, including me in that lost and yet you target me with a supposed role that could have killed me N1.

I'm done wasting my time.
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AllThingsPurple said:
Before Geno rumbled me I had planned to posess hawthorne, since taking her I felt would change the game least since she had provided pretty much nothing of note.
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LOLOLOLOLOL
 
Geno

Geno

Aight, anyway, then I think this is the most beneficial

Zeke: Standby
Leo: Roleblocks Pancakes
Hawthorn: Strong Kyanrute
Geno: Standby
How does it sound?
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Hawthorn said:
I'm having tons of fun, but I would still be cool with it if ATP stole my role tbh. It would be funny to watch, and all for the good of the mafia! I think we should leave him alive. Just hope he didn't choose the hider option.
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What could have been...
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Maolfunction said:
No, I'm done trying to convince town it's a bad idea to listen to scum. You opened the game telling off Gorlak for targeting the good players, including me in that lost and yet you target me with a supposed role that could have killed me N1.

I'm done wasting my time.
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Geno counter to this is that it was only a 7% chance of killing.

Geno, you should probably say you ran out of shots maybe? We dont know exactly what mal and gor's powers are that contradict you
 
Geno

Geno

EzekelRAGE said:
Geno counter to this is that it was only a 7% chance of killing.

Geno, you should probably say you ran out of shots maybe? We dont know exactly what mal and gor's powers are that contradict you
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Yeah I'm going to counter with this and say there's more benefits than drawbacks. I have a safe plan in mind and a risky one, the safe is say I'm out of shots, the risky one is say I have 3 shots, say I didn't use my third shot and then day 4 claim a red check on pancakes, or I can say I'm out of shots and pop in d4 with a "I lied and I have a red check on pancakes", it's very risky though.
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
Geno said:
Aight, anyway, then I think this is the most beneficial

Zeke: Standby
Leo: Roleblocks Pancakes
Hawthorn: Strong Kyanrute
Geno: Standby
How does it sound?
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Agreed!

Let's go for a flawless victory, no scum dies haha
 
Geno

Geno

Geno said:
Yeah I'm going to counter with this and say there's more benefits than drawbacks. I have a safe plan in mind and a risky one, the safe is say I'm out of shots, the risky one is say I have 3 shots, say I didn't use my third shot and then day 4 claim a red check on pancakes, or I can say I'm out of shots and pop in d4 with a "I lied and I have a red check on pancakes", it's very risky though.
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Meant D5 here
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Hmmm chucky...............................................didnt expect that one
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I may be in trouble with my claim 2mrw.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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EzekelRAGE said:
What priest or entity to use to battle the possession is up in the air.

You are Ash from Evil dead???? so that means you’re sided with Town.

You are a 2-shot Hunter(Role Name can be changed?).
You are on the hunt for an evil entity before they can possess someone.
During the nightphase you can enter the command BOOMSTICK: Target. If that person is the entity you vanquish them. If they are not the entity then you missed hte shot.

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You will find a link to the game thread here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/horror-movie-mafia-ot-villains-vs-villains.292016/
Good luck and enjoy the game! :D
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Technically I just knew about the possession part. With me being ash.....and me fighting possession I just assumed it would be a deadite or the demon from the exorcist. Which is why I posted the two gifs, one from each movie.

Obviously TP didnt want to make it that cut and dry. If i had more shots left we couldve potentially let ATP live BUT, I wasted my shots.
N1 I used it on Kyan.
N2 I used it on Maol
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I think Z beat doesnt buy this lol
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EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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I may just watch evil dead 2 over the weekend to see if I can sell this, if not, back to the drawing board.

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Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
It won't be expected to be from the same movie as Chucky, so it can't be expected to be exact.

I still think you should try my or Leo's flavor. They both have aspects of "hunting something down"
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
If you do Leo's role, IT, the flavor could be based on the hiding aspect. "These kids will try to hide from you.. but no matter where they go, even into another person's body, you will track them down, even if it takes years, they will never be free of you, now you see that one is in this very game thread"
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Geno said:
There has to be a horror movie with evil priest characters
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Not even evil priest, just a character who gets rid of an evil entity/possessed and that character could be neutralish too.

I'm sure there is someone somewhere
Hawthorn said:
It won't be expected to be from the same movie as Chucky, so it can't be expected to be exact.

I still think you should try my or Leo's flavor. They both have aspects of "hunting something down"
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Hawthorn said:
If you do Leo's role, IT, the flavor could be based on the hiding aspect. "These kids will try to hide from you.. but no matter where they go, even into another person's body, you will track them down, even if it takes years, they will never be free of you, now you see that one is in this very game thread"
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Nah, dont want to steal you guys. If you guys get flipped with it, then it comes back onto me. Plus you guys will have to come up with a whole new flavor too.
I sorta pigenoholed myself into this specific character.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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So, think I've settled on a couple of characters to try and sell this fakeclaim.

Spawn (Spawn) - He uses the chains to strike out at the evil entity (meh)

George Stark (The Dark Half) - Author could control him in the movie, think he used a special blade or gun too. (Decent One, think this one leaves enough leeway. Gonna rewatch the movie again and decide. Been years since I seen it.)

Leland Gaunt (Needful Things) - Could say he had two shots to find the evil entity before they possessed someone. He would visit someone and see if they wanted to buy something. If they are the entity, they will be killed. (meh, but better than spawn maybe?)

Mr. Gray (Dreamcatcher) - Use the command infect with worm, which allows him to see what dark entity plans to possess someone and kill them. Gray had the ability to see memories of the host, could work but kinda meh.
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Now this final one..............this one I may go with. It's simple enough that it could work.

He Who Walks Behind The Rows (Children of the Corn) - You won't let anyone get in the way of your harvest. During the night phase you may enter the command Reap. If the target hasnt possessed anyone you will kill them sending them back to hell.

Yea, i'm liking the corn one. Hard to explain why I would be the only one that has a connection with another unrelated character like that. But I cant explain why TP would give me the power to take out chucky specifically. Take that up with the gamerunner after the game.
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Longshot but it's my fault..............chucky man..........who wouldve thought.........it was Charles........Lee......Ray.......................
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EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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the "back to hell part" would be why I thought it was from the exorcist or evil dead. and would be why I posted those gifs.
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EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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yea you all can. I'm like the perfect buss with my power. But dont push it too far though. Once my flip happens, ppl will put together i was bussed. Let Gorlak lead that charge.

Hopefully Maol vs Geno continues to make noise again 2mrw.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
STRONG:KILL: Kyanrute

I would say go for the most obscure of those options-- I don't have enough horror movie knowledge to say which it is, but I am worried about somebody saying that's their name, or that they're from the same movie.

I've already gotten in trouble for being noncommittal, so I might as well continue and take an attitude of "wow, that seems hard to believe, but on the other hand it's possible, who knows." then vote for Maolfunction again, or Pancakes if they go that way.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Also, good luck Zeke!! I'm glad you both decided to go with such creative claims, it's fun to see it play out
 
Geno

Geno

Should I claim roleblocked? I'll have to wait and see what Stu saw but It'll set up nicely a pancakes d4 red check.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
That's the safest, probably, unless you want to say that you gave an item or something to one of us
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
I think Children of the Corn is the best option, it's the most famous of those movies and most likely to be in the game but it isn't overly popular either, I think it works.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Geno said:
Should I claim roleblocked? I'll have to wait and see what Stu saw but It'll set up nicely a pancakes d4 red check.
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I was thinking about it. Probably all depends on what stu did.

Safest thing is to say you didn’t use it or say you ran out of shots. Plus most of everything that flipped has been x shot neway.

If stu can contradict your target or say you weren’t roleblocked, you are dead.

We also still don’t know what gor’s power does.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Hawthorn said:
Also, good luck Zeke!! I'm glad you both decided to go with such creative claims, it's fun to see it play out
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Thanks
Leo said:
I think Children of the Corn is the best option, it's the most famous of those movies and most likely to be in the game but it isn't overly popular either, I think it works.
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I’m liking it the more I think about it. It’ll probably be the one I go with.

also you guys may want to think about your claims. We may be mass claiming today.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I'm definitely going to claim my own flavor.

I'm not sure about the switcher claim, but I want it to be something simple and standard, not too out-there. I'm considering claiming commuter. The pros are that I don't have to explain when I used actions and Stu can't disprove it. The cons are that I took actions every night & there might be another tracker power & that there might be a real commuter.

For switcher, I would say probably that I switched Ambulance N1 or 2 with someone who can't disprove it. Maybe one of the dead players. Or Leo, I could say that I switched Ambulance with you, since I thought you would fly under the radar?

Then I could say that I was 2-shot and still have one shot left, or that I was 1-shot. The pro of 1-shot being that I can use the remaining switch to benefit us instead of however the town wants. Also I could later say that I lied and am 2-shot if I needed to prove myself.

OK, I think that's the best plan. Mater Suspiriorum, 1-shot switcher, I switched Ambulance with Zipped, or maybe Leo, N2. Let me know what you guys think.

Of course all of the above is only for if we get forced into a mass claim, or if I'm on the chopping block for some reason.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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TearablePuns said:
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Hawthorn said:
I'm definitely going to claim my own flavor.

I'm not sure about the switcher claim, but I want it to be something simple and standard, not too out-there. I'm considering claiming commuter. The pros are that I don't have to explain when I used actions and Stu can't disprove it. The cons are that I took actions every night & there might be another tracker power & that there might be a real commuter.

For switcher, I would say probably that I switched Ambulance N1 or 2 with someone who can't disprove it. Maybe one of the dead players. Or Leo, I could say that I switched Ambulance with you, since I thought you would fly under the radar?

Then I could say that I was 2-shot and still have one shot left, or that I was 1-shot. The pro of 1-shot being that I can use the remaining switch to benefit us instead of however the town wants. Also I could later say that I lied and am 2-shot if I needed to prove myself.

OK, I think that's the best plan. Mater Suspiriorum, 1-shot switcher, I switched Ambulance with Zipped, or maybe Leo, N2. Let me know what you guys think.

Of course all of the above is only for if we get forced into a mass claim, or if I'm on the chopping block for some reason.
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idk about the switcher claim, i forget whether or not it's considered scum role here. but yea hopefully it's ust a name claim only and we can work out the rest later. I know roleblocker for Leo will not fly.
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
Can you guys help me there? I have no idea what to claim.

From the list of roles I found, I thought I could use these: vengeful, commuter, and bulletproof, as none of these would make possible for anyone to know I'm lying.

I also thought I could be lovers with Hawthorn, in which case we could be Ed and Lorraine Warren. We haven't read each other in the game at all, so it might work, and I think the flavor is pretty good, but it could be risky.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Leo said:
Can you guys help me there? I have no idea what to claim.

From the list of roles I found, I thought I could use these: vengeful, commuter, and bulletproof, as none of these would make possible for anyone to know I'm lying.

I also thought I could be lovers with Hawthorn, in which case we could be Ed and Lorraine Warren. We haven't read each other in the game at all, so it might work, and I think the flavor is pretty good, but it could be risky.
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Lovers claim is too risky, and like Geno pointed out on my Ash claim, they are not villains. BP could work, but may already be taken.

Commuter and vengeful may be the way to go, depending on the powers of others. It can work with both those powers too.

If we just name claim you should be good. If we full claim (name and role) maybe just wait til Gor/Pancakes/Mal say what their roles are. That way we know what to go with for your role.
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
Got it. So for names I've thought of the crooked man, from Conjuring, Paimon form Hereditary, Reverend Lowe from Silver Bullet, Ross from Tall Grass. Can we ask TP if any of these are taken or is it a gamble? I think they're credible but not very likely to be in the game.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Leo said:
Got it. So for names I've thought of the crooked man, from Conjuring, Paimon form Hereditary, Reverend Lowe from Silver Bullet, Ross from Tall Grass. Can we ask TP if any of these are taken or is it a gamble? I think they're credible but not very likely to be in the game.
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Just watched hereditary, good movie. TP probably cant confirm those roles but he may be able to give you one?

Your claim of It may be ok, Leatherface being a town role opens the door for others. Leatherface is just pure evil like Michael Myers/Jason isnt he?
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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I am He Who Walks Behind the Rows, from Children of the Corn. My flavor says not letting anyone or anything stop my harvest. I knew Geno was telling the truth about the possession part because my role pm mentions I could kill someone before that possess someone. It didnt say what possessed meant. I thought it meant a post restriction or something like that. Certainly didnt think the person would vanish from the game. Also thought they were scum or neutral. I only remember the fact that they killed adults in the movies, so figured this was some crossover thing like Freddy vs. Jason. I assumed it was the demon from The Exorcist or something from Evil Dead. As far as my actions:

Night 1 I used it on ???
Night 2 I used it on Maol. If you remember day 2. I did a switch from scum reading maol, to defending him. Hedin called me out for it in this post.
Part of my explanation for switching on maol:
EzekelRAGE said:
Hard to explain. Maybe "bad" is the wrong word there. But I don't agree with lynching mao.Let's call it gut. Some of his responses can be harsh(if you arent used to playing with him).I've pulled a couple of quotes where he puts good scum hunting info out there. His follow thru on the info himself isnt there, but the fact that he put that info out there is good. The zipped voter stuff. Ambu pulled a quote from him where he says to look at stuff other than the gor tunnels.

He may not be answering/playing how Gor wants him to, but he isnt killing discussion with noise. In fact it's the opposite. He is trying to move discussion and lessen the noise.

Now look at Geno. You can say both geno and mao both reacted to gor the same. But with Mao he dropped some gems as well.
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Part of "hard to explain" was my role. I looked at maol's posts and thought he isnt playing like his usual town self, but he is still trying to help it seems. The reasoning for his Hedin vote was weak and scummish. Like he is trying to stay a lynch target to not get nightkilled, so thought he was the possesser or w/e. And I had one last shot to use, so figured moving the vote away from him and I could possibly have an answer to maol in the nightphase.
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Not bad...........not bad.

Still need to come up with a name for the role. He Who Walks Behind the Rows the "????"
You are 2 Shot Reaper
Night Action would be to "Reap".

Salva's role of Exposer looks to be made up for this game specifically, so Reaper could work.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Like the above claim. I think it's ok if it's not a standard mafia role. TP clearly has some creative roles out there for this game.

Leo, I think you should do your own flavor! I know I'm a broken record on this, I just think our own flavor is the safest.

That said, I'd be willing to do a lovers claim if we decide to go crazy with it.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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@Geno
Maolfunction said:
Ah, yes, a mass claim which creates even more distraction and noise and pulls attention away from Geno, and lets scum control the flow of the day. Exactly what this game needs.

Vote: Geno

Call me when you're all done with the bullshit and actually want to vote. Town has more than enough information already to make a decision here.
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Counterpoint: Only ppl who would be against a mass claim would be scum team?
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
See how it plays out. Potentially the other way around? I also still think Pancakes could be a mislynch
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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7/4 currently

Cause mislynch and get nk leaves us at
5/4 starting day 5

if night kill goes thru I think I should “slip scum” or put forth my claim with big holes in it to create a lot of noise to distract from the rest of you guys. You guys point out howyou don’t buy the claim etc. I play defeated and hammer myself.

lynching me will kill stu making it 4/3 going into night 5. A kill should win. Especially with the double vote being used.
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EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Matter of fact I’ll hammer maol, that should get me enuff scum points the next day phase. Just gotta hope they don’t have nemore powers that can mess things up.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Should I claim odd-night commuter? Malus said he didn't track me, Stu said he didn't watch me. Would imply I was Geno's target last night. It could be because you thought I was suspicious & wanted to see how I would react, or some other reason, whatever. Fits ok with my flavor.
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
I think we can mislunch Maol today, but if that happens, it's gonna be really difficult to prevent a Geno lunch tomorrow. Do we have a plan to cover that yet?
 
Geno

Geno

Leo said:
I think we can mislunch Maol today, but if that happens, it's gonna be really difficult to prevent a Geno lunch tomorrow. Do we have a plan to cover that yet?
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I'll claim red check on pancakes and pray for the best
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Nice turn around Leo.

Geno, it's up to you about the commuter claim, since it would involve one of your checks. I think linking us is ok, since there are so few players left in the game. I don't think they would vote me out before you, and your flip wouldn't mean that I lied.

On the other hand, you're not facing too much suspicion on the Stu issue and you could have targetted a mafia with some innate role blocking capability. Maybe that would be simplest.
 
Geno

Geno

I saw this game in my dream btw, I saw malus pming me telling me to vote Maol in the pm and when I did it a trap triggered and I died instantly and I then was legit mad irl.
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
I'm thinking I'll go with the Reverend Lowe claim. For those who haven't watched Silver Bullet, he is a priest who suddenly becomes a werewolf and starts terrorizing the town at night. He isn't a villain per say because he doesn't want to kill, he loses controls when he transforms.

I think I'm gonna say I'm bulletproof, and my flavor is about me only being vulnerable to a silver bullet, but no one knows that, so attempts to kill me are futile. However, I should be careful not to be discovered by the town, or they could lynch me while I'm in human form.

Also, I'm gonna say im BP first and will not reveal my name. If someone asks, I'll say I'm wary of revealing it because it could lead to misinterpretation. With some pressure, I'll spill out the flavor and say I am worried town will think a player who is a werewolf would have to be scum, since I had that exchange with Gorlak about wolves earlier in the game.

I think it's pretty credible, how do you feel about it?

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Nice turn around Leo.
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You laid some groundwork there, I tried to go along without being too obvious :p I think we can get a Maol lunch today.
 
Geno

Geno

It's risky, 3 shot doc+Gorlak+ theoretically me who can heal and give out vests+you is a lot of protection.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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So..... stu and mal didn’t mention character with their claims. Frankenstein is another gray area character isn’t he?
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Geno said:
It's Frankenstein's monster, who was the villain I think? Frankenstein was the doctor.
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Was it scream where that question was asked? I remember some horror movie made that particular point in the movie about the difference between the two.
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But yea, Frankenstein's Munster was moreso like misunderstood or something. I dont remeber him being an outright killer, more of a sympathetic character. I never watched a Frankenstein movie though lol.

Looking at summaries he was just evil in in the earlier movies so we good.
I wish mal/stu claimed their flavor though.
 
Geno

Geno

EzekelRAGE said:
Was it scream where that question was asked? I remember some horror movie made that particular point in the movie about the difference between the two.
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But yea, Frankenstein's Munster was moreso like misunderstood or something. I dont remeber him being an outright killer, more of a sympathetic character. I never watched a Frankenstein movie though lol.

Looking at summaries he was just evil in in the earlier movies so we good.
I wish mal/stu claimed their flavor though.
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I think you're safe to claim the corn thing, we're missing a lot of classics, 1 might be Dracula, the one from scream, girl from ring, jason, leatherface, no way the corn thing made it in and all those are not.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I'm going to go back to the switcher claim. Leo, is it ok with you if I say I switched Ambulance with you N2? Won't mess up any potential claims?
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Maol was leatherface wasnt he?

Oh Im pretty sure Children of the corn is safe. Moreso thinking about leo/Haw and their claims.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Geno would Leo claiming vengeful be too much with CP being a double voter? Or is vengeful seen as a scum role?

If the answer is yes to either of those questions, Leo may just need to claim commuter.
 
Geno

Geno

EzekelRAGE said:
Geno would Leo claiming vengeful be too much with CP being a double voter? Or is vengeful seen as a scum role?

If the answer is yes to either of those questions, Leo may just need to claim commuter.
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Since a day vig has flipped I think that a vengeful will be seen as a scum role by town. For the commuter claim, how will Hawthorn justify a N3 Maol Leo switch?
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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O shit...............Gor and Mal are confirmed then.

Gor's power redirects his target to Gor.
Mal tracked Zbeat, getting a result that zbeat tracked to mal. But with gor's power, he was actually tracking gor.

So they confirm each other.
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Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I was going to say Leo and Ambulance N2, not Leo and Maol N3? The idea being it was to protect ambulance by switching him with an under the radar player

I don't think switcher is seen as a mafia role.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Did Gorlak say he gets a notification of what the power actually is? I don't think they fully confirm each other
 
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