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SalvaPot
YEAH
You can, unless explicitly prohibited, so make sure to carefully read your pm's.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
SalvaPot
YEAH
Yep, but that's as much as you can say about the role you created.
Franconp
Frank
That seems like a really good role.
And it was a really good idea not allowing the player to share their created role with others.
The role that I created is a little bit crazy. I had to make 2 roles, a multipower and a killing/investigative role. As I wanted to know who got it I made the multipower to use day commands in the main thread. They have 4 1-shot abilities:
1- Battle royale: the next day phase everyone plays rock paper scissor until only one player remains. The winner gets complete inmunity the next night phase.
2- Dont trust anyone: It divides the players in 3 chats during the night phase where everyone gets a positive and a negative vote. The player with most positive votes from each chats gets a BP, the one with the most negative is roleblocked.
3- I want a recount: the next day phase the values of every votes are randomized (between 0-2)
4- Party time: It allows everyone to talk during the next night phase and also everyone gets a chance to roleblock another player (like ITAS but with roleblocks instead)
For the second role I obviously didn't wanted a investigative role so I made a killing role that wouldn't screw over with us. The player can put a death mark on another player. The target can prevent being killed if they can guess who targeted them. It synergies with the multipower as, if they use one of the day commands, I will know who has my power and if they try to kill any of us we can stop the kill.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
Amazing lmao
I was going to ask if I was the only one with that couldn’t talk about their original role, but that about answers it. That role is a bit bonkers, but I figure this entire game is going to bonkers.
Thinking along the lines of identifying who got your ability to be able to counter it was a great idea. Well done with that.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Yooooo, glad to be mafia again and vetz glad to be it with such an amazing team.
Okay, first of all I got attacked !
One of my initial abilities got stolen :(
Will post my initial role pm and the one I have now.
This is now my current one
Kinda sad that my rouge abilitie got stolen.
Since now I am just a normal neighborizer but I think I can try to sway people into thinking I am town. Hopefully this time I won't eff it up like last game haha.
Okay, first of all I got attacked !
One of my initial abilities got stolen :(
Will post my initial role pm and the one I have now.
This is now my current one
Kinda sad that my rouge abilitie got stolen.
Since now I am just a normal neighborizer but I think I can try to sway people into thinking I am town. Hopefully this time I won't eff it up like last game haha.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Franconp
Frank
I think we all get the " You got attacked! This is your new role! " text. It's part of the flavour that Salva used for the swap.
Is this the role that you created?
To me it seems like you got your role swapped but, coincidentally, someone thought of a similar role as the one that you created.
@EzekelRAGE If you can share the role that you created.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
We seem pretty stacked ability-wise, too.
dumb question for Salva, but I assume we have a regular night kill, as well? And can anyone here use the night kill and their ability on the same night?
dumb question for Salva, but I assume we have a regular night kill, as well? And can anyone here use the night kill and their ability on the same night?
Franconp
Frank
Zeke's role is a day command. He can do the NKs.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
That is true. I was wondering in case anything happened to him.
My activity is going to be pretty low this game due to reasons outside the game, but I'll at least keep tabs on what's going on, especially in this thread. It might be for the best given how easily I've been getting myself in a rut of suspicion the last few games, even when I've played town. There are also a lot of sharp players on town side, but I'm not overly worried about knocking them out early given our ability set and this scum team in particular will do a good job of blending long enough to make that happen.
SalvaPot
YEAH
Yeah you got your faction kill and anyone can use it, but you have to pick between your ability or your faction kill, you can't use both in the same night.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
going to guess that’s a no lmao
Hey, here’s something fun I realized. I think I can weaken a player then have nin visit them with the gossip chat for an extra kill lmao
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Got some clarification. Can talk about one part not the other.
First part is a witch. Can make another player target another.
Franconp
Frank
@SalvaPot How would this power work with a doctor:
3. Desert Spada: Player: Target player becomes "weak." If another player targets this player during the night phase, then your target dies.
If we target a player with that power and a doctor targets them too, does the player dies or they are protected by the doctor?
3. Desert Spada: Player: Target player becomes "weak." If another player targets this player during the night phase, then your target dies.
If we target a player with that power and a doctor targets them too, does the player dies or they are protected by the doctor?
SalvaPot
YEAH
A regular doctor would kill the target if it has been weakened, since it counts as an action done in the target.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
So just to double check Salva, you won’t be giving us fake claim names, right?
SalvaPot
YEAH
If you want I could, I don't mind.
SalvaPot
YEAH
All four of them are antagonists, yeah.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
Yeah, some fake names would be great. Our names are dead give aways
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
btw if anyone was looking for the town flavor name, it's in Zeke's PM: Straw Hat Grand Fleet (Town)
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
yea, my power also lets us know there is at least another group in the game that's not town besides us.
Think ima just shoot someone, maybe zipped.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
I thought that too, at first, but then if it was written by a town player, maybe the person wrote it as a way of balancing the vig shot? I can see that being a good drawback for a town vig.
What's your reasoning going to be afterwards? Not that I don't think town would immediately lap that up as you being an overeager town vig wanting to get a shot off before they die lol
SalvaPot
YEAH
Yeah that is the town faction, I think I forgot to do the usual "This guy died and he was town", but yeah.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Let's be honest, I'm Zeke. Do I really need a reason?
Im more likely to get lynched if I have a legit reason to kill someone than if I just randomly killed someone.
lol
Franconp
Frank
Let's be honest, I'm Zeke. Do I really need a reason?
Im more likely to get lynched if I have a legit reason to kill someone than if I just randomly killed someone.
lol
Honestly I was thinking that if someone where able to pull that off it would be you.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
I’m not necessarily opposed to Zeke firing a shot today, though Zipped wouldn’t be my preference just because his role might help us out by causing mayhem.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
O gawd, I didn’t mean to post that vig shot post. It was a saved draft from when I was thinking about it earlier
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
lmao
Franconp
Frank
I was rereading Zeke's role and it sounds like bait. Basically he will kill himself if he targets scum. So if you are town, why would you ever shoot? Either you kill another townie or you kill yourself. Unless there is a confirmed scum, it makes no sense.
Honestly, and I don't want to disrespect the player who created but, it's a shitty role. I would be pissed off if I were town and I got that.
Honestly, and I don't want to disrespect the player who created but, it's a shitty role. I would be pissed off if I were town and I got that.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Yep. That’s why I added the part about it being made by scum lol.
Franconp
Frank
I would claim it. As it is a day command the role creator will know when you use the role in the main thread. Even the command is not generic. It could give you some town points as it seems obviously a scummy role.
You won't be able to use it unless the creator of the role dies or for taking someone with you if you are being lynched.
You won't be able to use it unless the creator of the role dies or for taking someone with you if you are being lynched.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
Is there any chance the role got flipped when it landed on Zeke, i.e. it used to say scum-aligned instead of town-aligned?
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
As in, originally saying “if you don’t hit a scum player, you will shoot yourself”
SalvaPot
YEAH
nah
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
So unless the creator of the role dies, like Fran said, Zeke might have his cover blown as soon as the person he shoots flips scum.
I think that’s right; and at least we now know that was Zipped’s role, so that’s one name off the list of players who could’ve created the vig shot role.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
The person he shoots flips town*
Franconp
Frank
Yes, but they don't know that. My target will be told that they have an override and if they try to use it they will die. I think the role creator had the same idea as I had with the killing role: how I can prevent this for hurting me? If I target the player who created my role they know what it does and they won't use it.
BTW, it's 2 shots.
I saw that gif too. I'm still not 100% sure but it's likely it's Zipped.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
im bout to shoot monkey for the lawlz
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
So ATP most likely made a jailor role
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
if they let me live 2mrw im shooting someone at the sod and gonna act like someone made a role that forced me to do it
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Chuggs im sorry fro the runaroud im just trying to keep you goin to just make noise
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
Yeah, unfortunately I don’t think there’s any coming back from this one. It was a good kill, since we took out one of the best players and a watcher at that.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Yeah. I appreciate the effort though Zeke. You took one for the team
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
And yea, don’t try to save me lol
scum mate wise nothing you guys can do
scum mate wise nothing you guys can do
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Keep in mind if jman kills me, you could set it up that me and him are scum mates.
I kill monkey, the best town player and he kills me. Setting him up for big town points. Say it’s crazy enuff for me to make that plan and goes with it.
I kill monkey, the best town player and he kills me. Setting him up for big town points. Say it’s crazy enuff for me to make that plan and goes with it.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
RIP Zeke. Thanks for your sacrifice. We’ll win this one for you.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Yep. Curse you saved drafts
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Don’t forget what I said about jman. Especially after my flip reveals I could’ve shot him.
* I lied about being able to shoot twice in a day phase, salva said I couldn’t, but my pm wording can lead you to believe I could’ve.
* I lied about being able to shoot twice in a day phase, salva said I couldn’t, but my pm wording can lead you to believe I could’ve.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
We’ll keep jman in mind. I think we have a few angles to pursue. Fran built up a solid case for Loki. Terra kind of set himself up on two fronts, also. First, tying his horse to your cart; second, tipping his hand that he created my role, which on its face feels like a scummy role.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
I shit, I may not me dead
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Will wait for salva or someone to confirm. Jman could still be messing around.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
lol wow fell for the ol’ jman feint
You know, Zeke is pretty much dead already, and I’m wondering if it’s better that none of us vote for him. People will expect him to have been bussed for towncred once he was so obviously figured out, and they’ll start looking for scum there first. I’ve had a vote pretyped for a bit now, but I may just feign being absent for the rest of this phase.
You know, Zeke is pretty much dead already, and I’m wondering if it’s better that none of us vote for him. People will expect him to have been bussed for towncred once he was so obviously figured out, and they’ll start looking for scum there first. I’ve had a vote pretyped for a bit now, but I may just feign being absent for the rest of this phase.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
bah, not going to be able to keep quiet since they're meandering, but I'll start pushing different avenues of discussion instead.
I would ask Salva if that’s a question that’s ok to answer. I’ve been thinking about where the line would be for the role I created, and I’m not sure I’d be able to answer that without being modkilled personally. I am being overly cautious and trying to keep with the spirit of the clause.
SalvaPot
YEAH
You just can't talk about how it works. You can answer "Yes/No", but not why.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
That's fair. Thanks for clarifying.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
So that means he has the second part of my role too?
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
Safe to assume so. It should function like it did for Fran.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
Wait, that's a bad assumption actually lol
What if the first and second halves got swapped around too? Some folks were talking about how it feels like they got half of a PM, or that they got a piece that didn't really fit with the rest of the PM (myself included)
What if the first and second halves got swapped around too? Some folks were talking about how it feels like they got half of a PM, or that they got a piece that didn't really fit with the rest of the PM (myself included)
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Yea that's what I mean. Like Nin said he only got like half a role or something and others said the same as well.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
@LaunchpadMcQ I would chime in with the wholle "can't speak about certain aspects of your created role" thing, but I dont want to since I will flip soon.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Actually I think nin may have just gotten a neighbor role that was created by someone else, most likely monkey created it(She left some neighbor crumbs in a post)
and the role nin created, the rogue/neighbor that he thought was his was just naturally swapped.
and the role nin created, the rogue/neighbor that he thought was his was just naturally swapped.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
I say that because
1. Blackbeard power is he copies someone's power. Nin is blackbeard and had a power that copied another one with "black copy"
2. His command for creating the neighbor chat was "eating a pie" in the original role and the new neighbor chat's command for creation is "invite". Salva wouldnt change teh command like that.
1. Blackbeard power is he copies someone's power. Nin is blackbeard and had a power that copied another one with "black copy"
2. His command for creating the neighbor chat was "eating a pie" in the original role and the new neighbor chat's command for creation is "invite". Salva wouldnt change teh command like that.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
I agree with this. That said, what we get back maybe not necessarily be what we sent out. Like Fran is a good example of this - he created two roles, but he got back one role. The question is are the two halves Fran sent out delivering to players on different RNGs, and that's about where I throw my hands up. Piecing that together is going to be very difficult.
So, to keep it simple, do you think we should kill Terra if he inherited both parts of your role?
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Terra is not worth KILLING
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
That is as far as I can go I think.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
I think you may have read what Fran posted wrong. He didnt get back either of the roles he made himself.
The king role he made was created by someone else.
He created the Multipower/death mark role. Which Malus seems to have.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
the king role he has* was created by someone else.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Kyan is neutral
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
Yeah, that's what I meant. Fran created the multipower and killing roles; he got back the king role. 2 exchanged for 1.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Considering the alignment check the gun acts as, taking out monkey was the best course tbh
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Again.
It is not worth KILLING terra.
not worth KILLING
It is not worth KILLING terra.
not worth KILLING