Scum Thread Ouma Chat

OJ don't act to rashly, you getting lynched is best case scenario for a scum lynching, but last I looked there is a chance we all live and they lynch zipped or LP
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
I doubt you survive a RB+Switch claim. RB is often considered an anti-town action and Fanto was a switcher too. You also didn't move last night, so claiming active actions can lead into bad things. You don't need to claim three powers necessarily, but I think you need to come up with something. Something passive and not too bombastic.

I have no idea what, would need to do some research.
I mean I forgot to send my night actions, wouldn't that help my case? Also I am not sure how everyone has not figured it out but I'm pretty sure everyone is JOAT.

I am tempted to tell them there is a reason why they all missed but Geno already said one of them came close with 8, heh
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
OJ don't act to rashly, you getting lynched is best case scenario for a scum lynching, but last I looked there is a chance we all live and they lynch zipped or LP
Yeah I am staying put right now. See how unfair this is? There are a lot of lesser activity/posters in the game, just because I haven't been playing regularly I get all the "fun" stuff and everyone else is getting free passes. I doubt my activity would be any different even if I were town, heh, so this blows. But anyway, back to the matter at hand. Maybe ZPH is from the other scum team?
 
ZPH?

I think we can sorta be around and see where people go for. I can’t vote for OJ anymore, so that’s a plus. Salva is making sense though so I think that will be a hard sell, but Zipped, Fran and LP might be up now.
 
I was thinking that OJ can’t really try too hard to survive since his role would be the lynch, but I think town just don’t really doubt fake flips like that.
I fake flipped weem as my own role at HvV2 and people kinda bought for quite some time. OJ could just pass off the idea that he wanted to troll a bit before getting lunched (and winning).
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
I read that Zipped has claimed nexus and according to the internet that role is a policy lynch? Not bad. Also I just want to point out if I don't get lynched someone else will try to shoot me at night or the next day's set of ITAs, so it's better I get lynched now.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
I wonder if I should vote Zipped then cite his role as policy lynch? Would that be pretty scummy? I want something that will return the spotlight to me
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Also I wouldn't have to fake a reason as opposed from voting everyone else, I can just link MafiaWiki lol
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I wonder if I should vote Zipped then cite his role as policy lynch? Would that be pretty scummy? I want something that will return the spotlight to me
Might not be a bad idea to vote Zipped, but I'd wait just a tad since I just voted for em
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Group 2 tearing itself apart, you love to see it.
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I read that Zipped has claimed nexus and according to the internet that role is a policy lynch? Not bad. Also I just want to point out if I don't get lynched someone else will try to shoot me at night or the next day's set of ITAs, so it's better I get lynched now.
That would be perfect! You’d be able to switch yourself with whoever lands at your continent and we’d get an additional kill. I think you would probably be lynched next phase, but then you wouldn’t flip as a switcher and Town would be even more confused looking for who did it.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
OJ---you probably have to post before this day gets ended. I think town is waiting to hear from you and aren't going to turbo ahead of time.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Also I wouldn't have to fake a reason as opposed from voting everyone else, I can just link MafiaWiki lol
That would be perfect! You’d be able to switch yourself with whoever lands at your continent and we’d get an additional kill. I think you would probably be lynched next phase, but then you wouldn’t flip as a switcher and Town would be even more confused looking for who did it.
Fando what do you mean about being able to switch myself? Oh, you mean at night if I survive I should switch me with someone else?
OJ---you probably have to post before this day gets ended. I think town is waiting to hear from you and aren't going to turbo ahead of time.
Vote Zipped then cite the nexus claim as justification? Why are you asking for your turbo btw?
 
Fando what do you mean about being able to switch myself? Oh, you mean at night if I survive I should switch me with someone else?
Yeah, exactly. You’re getting targeted if you survive for sure, so switching yourself with a town read player sounds like the go to move. Further, town wouldn’t know we had you as a switcher if you get lynched after that, which could really work in our favor later on.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Now I’m afraid that Commander Razmos will just day vig OJ in plain sight lol. That would be pretty bad. Come back to the thread when you can OJ!
Not really sure what I should do though, vote Zipped as preservation? I am tempted to just vote for Commander Razmos lol
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
I am tempted to claim this:

I am a neutral. I win once any faction's players are all defeated from the game. I asked the mod(not really lol) what does this mean, and he told me any, so I can win with town, neutral, and scum, provided that I last long enough.

Now I can add that this was why I asked why they did not trust Blarg to help as a neutral, also I can reveal I can roleblock. Then town gets angry and lynches me anyway, lol.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Has anyone considered that with the hated modifier, the lack of engagement, and now totally disappearing despite being tagged multiple times, maybe OJ wants to be lunched? Maybe he's a neutral with a lunch wincon? It would make sense that we're down the middle on how to read him, if that's the case.
Someone figured it out lol
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
So yeah I'll just ditch posting and let them simmer and stew on why I haven't done so, even though I posted elsewhere and most people took notice of that.
 
So yeah I'll just ditch posting and let them simmer and stew on why I haven't done so, even though I posted elsewhere and most people took notice of that.

I dont think this is a good idea, Fando could end up getting lynched, I think you need to say something
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
I hope they listen to nin, also I hope someone brings up that if my goal was to get lynched, I would've been much more scummier especially early on but I have not done anything and I actually tried to participate in the discussion regardless of what someone has said.

Also I guess I will use my role tonight if I survive, I'll switch myself to somebody else. Who do you think should we switch? I was thinking the Commander Razmos Singularity, because if I was targeted fatally then we hit two birds, and I'll probably get targeted tonight too. What do you all think? @Geno does the switch include me?
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Sorry if I'm not much help as scum, I love the investigative aspect of this game so I usually favor town roles. My scumplay is nonexistent. This time around I can actually be useful as scum so I hope I get lynched.

Anyway, any thoughts why my train failed?
 
Morning guys.
So yeah I'll just ditch posting and let them simmer and stew on why I haven't done so, even though I posted elsewhere and most people took notice of that.
I think you should show up and see what happens OJ. A good counter to Launch right now and something I’ve seen with Jesters is that they have to survive until X-Day before getting lynched. Otherwise its too easy.
 
Sorry if I'm not much help as scum, I love the investigative aspect of this game so I usually favor town roles. My scumplay is nonexistent. This time around I can actually be useful as scum so I hope I get lynched.

Anyway, any thoughts why my train failed?
Really, stroke of the luck I guess. Terra playing the Ocarina and someone having a weird double or triple vote on you. Inertia means you’ll probably be lynched if you simply ghost the thread, but I think you should try something there first.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Morning guys.

I think you should show up and see what happens OJ. A good counter to Launch right now and something I’ve seen with Jesters is that they have to survive until X-Day before getting lynched. Otherwise its too easy.
Nope, my role doesn't say anything about any day or # of players
 
Nope, my role doesn't say anything about any day or # of players
I know, I know. I mean that you can try and argue (and maybe outright say it later on) that this would be the reason why you just didn’t go crazy at D1 or why you’re still trying not to get lynched at D2.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Nobody will expect that you are a Jester before you flip as one. They are that rare. Launch entertaining it means nothing...for now. Only the thoughts that are spoken are entertained. If you don't fill the silence, it will be filled for you.
 
Since really, it wouldn’t make sense for you to be a Jester and stay alive if you do. Claiming that you need to survive a few days first makes it a fun role to play I think and could be why you were trying to be scummy but ended up being too scum read.
 
Nobody will expect that you are a Jester before you flip as one. They are that rare. Launch entertaining it means nothing...for now. Only the thoughts that are spoken are entertained. If you don't fill the silence, it will be filled for you.
Agreed on this. I don’t think people will take it seriously before you flip.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
My only concern is they agree with launch that he is trying to get himself lynched and don't do it. Or someone vigs him.
Yeah that is my only concern
I know, I know. I mean that you can try and argue (and maybe outright say it later on) that this would be the reason why you just didn’t go crazy at D1 or why you’re still trying not to get lynched at D2.
Wait what does this relate to, my fakeclaim?
Nobody will expect that you are a Jester before you flip as one. They are that rare. Launch entertaining it means nothing...for now. Only the thoughts that are spoken are entertained. If you don't fill the silence, it will be filled for you.
That last sentence is deep, heh. Well, the thing is as someone pointed out, yesterday Sorian summoned me then I came bumbling to my defense, then everyone suddenly piled on me and shot at me. If I post now, Launch will feel vindicated and mention about suddenly appearing when the lynch wincon was mentioned.
Since really, it wouldn’t make sense for you to be a Jester and stay alive if you do. Claiming that you need to survive a few days first makes it a fun role to play I think and could be why you were trying to be scummy but ended up being too scum read.
Well if I claim I need to survive for a few days I shouldn't be mentioning the Jester part? Sorry if I sound confused, the night is getting deep where I'm from
 
Wait what does this relate to, my fakeclaim?
Yeah, I think you can play it from this angle and maybe even fakeclaim it if nothing sticks. It makes sense on a base level and could work if you end up getting lynched; we can just casually direct the conversation to say that you just wanted to play more of the game if people get suspicious of your flip.

Sorry, wasn’t really clear on this I think.
 
Hey hey people, who do you want me to be switched too just in case
Switch or roleblock? Switch you’d still be here with us, but on RB its hard to say now. I think Hedin could be a good one, but I’m guessing the Cult of Whatever will go after him after his claim.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Yeah, I think you can play it from this angle and maybe even fakeclaim it if nothing sticks. It makes sense on a base level and could work if you end up getting lynched; we can just casually direct the conversation to say that you just wanted to play more of the game if people get suspicious of your flip.

Sorry, wasn’t really clear on this I think.
Oh, gotcha, I think I should forego the # of days and just stick with one faction eliminated though because if I just stick with # of days then that means I'll be useless once I reach that day and they'll get suspicious if it eventually ends that way lol.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Switch or roleblock? Switch you’d still be here with us, but on RB its hard to say now. I think Hedin could be a good one, but I’m guessing the Cult of Whatever will go after him after his claim.
Switch, because I think someone will vig me tonight if I live. Also I can just use one power right? Not all of them?
 
Yeah, I think you can play it from this angle and maybe even fakeclaim it if nothing sticks. It makes sense on a base level and could work if you end up getting lynched; we can just casually direct the conversation to say that you just wanted to play more of the game if people get suspicious of your flip.

Sorry, wasn’t really clear on this I think.
And to clarify, claiming this NOW with you as the prime lynch candidate would get you lynched for sure. I don’t think that’s what we should go for now.
 
Switch, because I think someone will vig me tonight if I live. Also I can just use one power right? Not all of them?
Oh, alright. Its just that we can decide that later during the night phase if you make it out alive and see who you get paired with at the random continent thingy.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
If you claim that claim of yours up there, you will get killed. Solo neutrals are a faction of their own and Blarg has already left the game. Even if you change the wincon to any multi-member faction winning, you still die because claiming Survivor in your spot is very scummy.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Oh, alright. Its just that we can decide that later during the night phase if you make it out alive and see who you get paired with at the random continent thingy.
Oh that's right, I need to target someone from the same continent I'm in
If you claim that claim of yours up there, you will get killed. Solo neutrals are a faction of their own and Blarg has already left the game. Even if you change the wincon to any multi-member faction winning, you still die because claiming Survivor in your spot is very scummy.
The thing is this game is too wild even for role-madness games, so who's to say my claim ain't legit?

But anyway, I think it looks like Zippedpinhead will get lynched
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Is this a serious question?
its very common for scum that think their goose is cooked to just clam up so they cant give anything further away.
y'know, never talk to the feds and all that.

Further if OJ wanted to be scum he could be trying much harder, from all iv seen he has walked a subtle and awkward line if its the intention.
Darn I did not know this would be unpopular, well Geno has a surprise in store for them.

Also if Launchpad brought this up maybe something made him think this. What if there is another scum team, our roles are the same? Then Launch is also scum, someone is also like me on the other side. Also if he's scum then I think Zippedpinhead is acting mighty scummy too. Maybe Commander Razmos too is scum. That makes a scum team, right there.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
I hope Launchpad stops the theorizing, someone might listen. Also it'll be weird if I appear now he's doubling down.

Anyway, I think someone should posit that if my wincon is to get lynched I would've tried less, just voted crazily each day, shot ITA, never defended myself from Sorian, also maybe someone can check out my previous game(town) and I got lynched in D1 lol.
 
I think maybe you make a bogus sounding fake claim, claim you are also a joat town, copy Fran's claim a little not word for word but that you have multiple powers that you have a chancevto use it will sound like scum desperately clutching at straws to save himself..

But I feel the least experienced in fake claims here, so take anything I say with a big grain of salt
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
I did make a bogus claim but Kyan thinks the bogus claim doesn't sound good.

I mean I think at one point I thought I should just claim my role wholesale and leave out the last bit, but roleblocker + switcher is not a town combination lol.

I tried making it fit a good hero character and I thought of Ahri from LoL because her skills fit my roles, but she's a fox and I'm not and I am almost sure there is a species detector in there lol.

So I need to sell my fake claim. Any other human that can roleblock and switch?

The Flash, maybe?
 
Launch is hanging himself on your noose, its great.

He might actually help you flip because people will now think flipping you will help resolve Launch.
 
Inertia will get you lynched if you don’t post OJ, I think that much is for certain. Launch is weird and Fran is weird, but your disappearance from the thread is too much of a thing for town to look elsewhere right now.
 
He should just stay gone at this point i think. I dont think there is any coming back now.

He should stay gone, get lynched and become our secret Roleblocker.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Now is the moment to claim Neutral Survivor. Give them the final desperate struggle of a meanie who is all out of cards to play. Reinforce the scum reads that everyone has on you. Make them hammer it and enjoy the mental images of their contempt as they see the Jester flip.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Now is the moment to claim Neutral Survivor. Give them the final desperate struggle of a meanie who is all out of cards to play. Reinforce the scum reads that everyone has on you. Make them hammer it and enjoy the mental images of their contempt as they see the Jester flip.
Agreed. But we need to do something. They will waffle and it could go bad for us. The iron is hot. OJ has to post and soon. Plus, it's no fun being town and someone stops posting. It's a good tactic here-and-there for bits of time, but overall, I'm a believer in giving the town something to work with, if even a single post, then feel free to vanish again. This silence has been too much.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Agreed. But we need to do something. They will waffle and it could go bad for us. The iron is hot. OJ has to post and soon. Plus, it's no fun being town and someone stops posting. It's a good tactic here-and-there for bits of time, but overall, I'm a believer in giving the town something to work with, if even a single post, then feel free to vanish again. This silence has been too much.

I don't think we need to do anything, this is pretty much set in stone now. I was just thinking that the post you quoted would be a very funny way of doing it. A final taunt from the Jester, if you will.

you really shouldn't lynch me :)

gets lynched, flips as jester

:DDD I TOLD YOU SO :DDD
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I don't think we need to do anything, this is pretty much set in stone now. I was just thinking that the post you quoted would be a very funny way of doing it. A final taunt from the Jester, if you will.

you really shouldn't lynch me :)

gets lynched, flips as jester

:DDD I TOLD YOU SO :DDD
I would be good with this. lol. One post, short and simple, then go away.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
That exact post is bad though, as it will attract vigi's who have still somehow held their shots. It was more about the general idea behind it. If OJ wants to pretend to be a meanie in order to push the lynch forward, he can do so. Silence works too, then he becomes the silent mastermind Jester until the moment we others die.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
If OJ doesn't post soon, I'm going to be forced to have to move my vote away from Zipped, then I think that train loses any steam and chance of happening, which is a shame. We really could have used OJ to take heat for us later to help ensure we saved up enough canon shots, but....town can't be left like this to scramble. I'll give it until lunch, then I'm switching.
 
I'm not sure OJ is going to be around now till end of day, I feel like he's never been around this sort of time.

I dont know how group 2 can lynch anyone but OJ now anyway, especially with Launch and his staunch defense.
 
If OJ doesn't post soon, I'm going to be forced to have to move my vote away from Zipped, then I think that train loses any steam and chance of happening, which is a shame. We really could have used OJ to take heat for us later to help ensure we saved up enough canon shots, but....town can't be left like this to scramble. I'll give it until lunch, then I'm switching.

Tomorrow will be different, we will all be together again, I think someone like Kenny can get lynched before attention turns to us.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
What stinks is that OJ flipping Jester is going to clear up Launch's bad name he just gathered.

Tomorrow will be different, we will all be together again, I think someone like Kenny can get lynched before attention turns to us.
Agreed. If we still wanted to gamble and gather up shots though, we need to survive one more day on top of tomorrow. I think tomorrow is easy. It's the day after that, which is where OJ could have played a part.
 
What stinks is that OJ flipping Jester is going to clear up Launch's bad name he just gathered.


Agreed. If we still wanted to gamble and gather up shots though, we need to survive one more day on top of tomorrow. I think tomorrow is easy. It's the day after that, which is where OJ could have played a part.

I just think the ship sailed ages ago. OJ needed to have made an appearance ages ago. There are way to many questions now.

The x imposters remaining might still get launch some suspicion. There are always 2 imposters in among us.
 
Holy shit I made that mistake when I sent him the PM, removed it fast, I don't think anyone noticed that.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
We have a lot of claims out there, which really narrows our pool for who could be a cop that can investigate us. Once I'm off work, I'd like to start putting a list together of those claims. With what we have left, we can make an educated guess as to a cop and try to RB them with OJ. Agreed?
 
We have a lot of claims out there, which really narrows our pool for who could be a cop that can investigate us. Once I'm off work, I'd like to start putting a list together of those claims. With what we have left, we can make an educated guess as to a cop and try to RB them with OJ. Agreed?
Agreed for sure. We can also try and piece together who’s Reiji based on the item / universe claims.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
I think Launch is Reiji. He desperately wanted to play for Fanto's items and one of those was Hollywood and Gold. Those belong to Reiji. Close to the end today Launch mentioned that he had a villain named in his PM. Reiji is named in my PM so maybe I (Saya) am in his PM. The one thing that makes me doubt this is how he denied having any connection to the item, but that could be him faking it so that the item doesn't get stolen.

Zipped is in SA with Launch and while wee is a lucrative target for protection, the chance that Zipped will protect Launch are still 50/50.
 
ATP can remove it even if someone holds their item, however if it's a permanent upgrade then it won't happen.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Different sorts of upgrades, lovely. Hmm, I mixed LP and Zipped. Those avatars do look rather similar. Zipped can't protect Launch then, good.

Hold a kill or shoot? IMO shoot. VA can shoot, he has major town karma so nobody will be following him.

Shoot who? People not within the immediate POE. Asia is off-limits because Zipped is there. Both Stan and Fran might be threats to Fando and ATP in Europe. Fran though might go for Hedin since they weren't the best of buddies so far. I think I have a good chance to get targeted tonight, but keeping me safe with kills / block should be a low priority for us.

Block who? Someone who could manipulate other actions / check us. Someone in Europe or in ???, as I don't think anyone bothers to target VA.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I'm a huge fan of holding and charging our shot. Charge again and we have 2 stored. Then tomorrow night we can kill 3, unless we wanted to charge once more and get 4 stored, which means we can kill a whopping 5. I would be happy with just 3 tomorrow night though if you all didn't want to gamble.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
And honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised if I were checked. I've played in games where those who are mostly townread are the ones I fear the most because I don't want them sneaking by the whole game under the radar. I've seen them checked just to be sure, and could see the same happening for me. Not super likely, but possible.
 
I thought Launch could be Reiji as well, yeah. I’m cautious because I think he’d be more careful with his role and wouldn’t advertise it like he did mentioning a villain in his own PR. Could be bait, but it’s the best lead since he did go for the Hollywood and Gold.
 
First thought was that we should take advantage of OJ’s non map restricted RB by targeting players in continents that don’t have any scum members, so Asia (Stu, Zipped, Lux/Razmos/ and Terra) and SA (Flush, LP, weem and Launch) this phase. I Besides the obvious potential for a incriminating RB, this could throw town off balance in late game when there are a lot of claims and mechanics talks are heavier.

That said, we know Stan has an active role since he visited Stu last phase and was heard by Blarg. Could be a cop or scout, so I think we could redirect him again or even roleblock him despite me and ATP being in here.
 
Re: stock or kill; I’m always up for a stupid gambit, but I don’t want to be an hindrance to the team and get lynched with 3 stocked kills, so I think I’d just settle for the double kill now.

I think it would only be worth going for another stock if we decide to reach for that elusive 5 NKs. The meme potential would be amazing, really, but I don’t think I’d be able to do it.
 
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