Scum Thread Cult of Kosmos Chat

[Chuggernaut]

Nat, I'm fully expecting this game to be solved once by you once you get here. No pressure

 

[Sorian]

Yup, really we left all the pieces for you, this should be cake. Thanks Nat!

 

[Brazil]

Hang on

Heroes Vs. Villains 3 Mafia |OT| The Final Battle that will Decide the Fate of the Universe.

Map for N2(Hey Brazil).

www.resetera.com

Who did Kyan upgrade on N2?

 

[Brazil]

Or was this the night when everyone was randomized? Meh.

 

[Brazil]

We could also check movement for N3, but that’s weaker since we don’t know whether they managed to upgrade a teammate on N2

Heroes Vs. Villains 3 Mafia |OT| The Final Battle that will Decide the Fate of the Universe.

Map

www.resetera.com

Going to bed for real now

 

[Chuggernaut]

I FIGURED IT OUT

 

[Chuggernaut]

VERE REDIRECTED THE KILL TO STAN

 

[Chuggernaut]

You know what the most bastard shit in the god damn world would be, putting a scum with a redirect shot into a mason chat with a town with a redirect shot. It makes so much sense. Muffin doesn’t have to claim where he redirected, but if he does scum can just redirect it somewhere else.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Vere is frustrated that town has so much protection, says “Fuck it” and takes a shot at the nexus, Muffin tells him he’s redirecting it to LP, and then Vere redirects it into Stan.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Wait you don’t even have to work it out why Vere shot Launch. He knew Muffin was going to use the redirect because everyone is in the same place. So he targets Launch, Muffin redirects it at another player, and he redirects that shot to Stan so it doesn’t look like the original kill. Then the next day you have a big fucking mess because now Muffin is all “Yo why didn’t LP die”

There wasn’t two shots it was the same shot.

 

[Natiko]

Here's something to keep in mind. We know that we also removed ATP's deathproof and once it was removed ANY visit would have killed him.

We remove deathproof, Aeleus kills him when they go to remove the DP as well

Or vice-versa.

It's a ballsy move to guess at but Hawthorn technically may not have done anything and ATP would still be dead based on what we know.

Meaning no one targeted ATP for a kill but yes, it is just asking to get counter claimed unless they somehow knew he died from visits and not a real killing power.

Eh, but she claimed an actual killing power. Even if you’re town and visited ATP you probably don’t counter that unless you’re really skeptical of Haw. Also it can’t be that Ael accidentally killed ATP because I blocked Ael that night.

I will!

Last thought - we do know Fand was upgraded on N1, since he got a second upgrade and then shot Sorian when he got his item (right?). Maybe we can trace the number of missed kills to see if we find something, since I believe they'd probably be saving up for that extra kill.

Or maybe not :lol

Natiko will figure it out by the time I wake up, I'm sure.

Nat, I'm fully expecting this game to be solved once by you once you get here. No pressure

Yup, really we left all the pieces for you, this should be cake. Thanks Nat!

Guys I don’t even know how I’m awake right now. I got so drunk last night I fell asleep in the tub with the shower running lol At some point I woke up and flopped onto the bathroom floor and passed back out, somehow having hit the stopper but turning the shower off moments before it overflowed. I got fucking nothing lol I’ll sit and try and puzzle more out tonight though.

 

[Geno]

Eh, but she claimed an actual killing power. Even if you’re town and visited ATP you probably don’t counter that unless you’re really skeptical of Haw. Also it can’t be that Ael accidentally killed ATP because I blocked Ael that night.




Guys I don’t even know how I’m awake right now. I got so drunk last night I fell asleep in the tub with the shower running lol At some point I woke up and flopped onto the bathroom floor and passed back out, somehow having hit the stopper but turning the shower off moments before it overflowed. I got fucking nothing lol I’ll sit and try and puzzle more out tonight though.

Omg Nat glad you're ok

 

[Geno]

Oh I forgot something. When you lose your power you get a different one in its place
Illidan: Alas poor Elf, take this power and slay everyone.
Lich Queen Sylvanas: Heh, It's time to even the scales.

Lich Queen Sylvanas has gained a new ability. 1 shot power with the command Forsaken, obey to my command! can be used either day or night, it randomizes all the night actions of the following night, must be public if used on a day, if used on a night it takes effect the next night.

 

[Natiko]

Omg Nat glad you're ok

Me too buddy, me too lol

 

[Natiko]

Oh I forgot something. When you lose your power you get a different one in its place
Illidan: Alas poor Elf, take this power and slay everyone.
Lich Queen Sylvanas: Heh, It's time to even the scales.

Lich Queen Sylvanas has gained a new ability. 1 shot power with the command Forsaken, obey to my command! can be used either day or night, it randomizes all the night actions of the following night, must be public if used on a day, if used on a night it takes effect the next night.

Jesus lol

 

[Brazil]

Oh I forgot something. When you lose your power you get a different one in its place
Illidan: Alas poor Elf, take this power and slay everyone.
Lich Queen Sylvanas: Heh, It's time to even the scales.

Lich Queen Sylvanas has gained a new ability. 1 shot power with the command Forsaken, obey to my command! can be used either day or night, it randomizes all the night actions of the following night, must be public if used on a day, if used on a night it takes effect the next night.

Cool

 

[Brazil]

Guys I don’t even know how I’m awake right now. I got so drunk last night I fell asleep in the tub with the shower running lol At some point I woke up and flopped onto the bathroom floor and passed back out, somehow having hit the stopper but turning the shower off moments before it overflowed. I got fucking nothing lol I’ll sit and try and puzzle more out tonight though.

D:

 

[Brazil]

Eh, but she claimed an actual killing power. Even if you’re town and visited ATP you probably don’t counter that unless you’re really skeptical of Haw. Also it can’t be that Ael accidentally killed ATP because I blocked Ael that night.

This is a great reminder. So Haw did in fact visit ATP to do something.

 

[Sorian]

1) Natiko :( Glad you’re ok too

2) I feel like that power never gets used Brazil, hurts us more than helps us if we are trying to protect each other lol

3) Good point, A was blocked so Hawthorn did do something.

Ahhhhhhh ok this game

 

[Brazil]

If I’m the last surviving member of this team I’m using it publicly just for kicks

 

[Brazil]

Wait you don’t even have to work it out why Vere shot Launch. He knew Muffin was going to use the redirect because everyone is in the same place. So he targets Launch, Muffin redirects it at another player, and he redirects that shot to Stan so it doesn’t look like the original kill. Then the next day you have a big fucking mess because now Muffin is all “Yo why didn’t LP die”

There wasn’t two shots it was the same shot.

This is fun and it would actually explain everything, but it also relies on quite a few leaps of faith, hahaha :x

There has to be an easier explanation. Can anyone think of any turning point from the past days that we’ve neglected rereading? A situation in which flipped scum helped other players on a minigame or something.

 

[Brazil]

Oh damn

It actually is Vere, isn’t it

 

[Brazil]

I still haven’t looked at deliberate movement on D3, but the only surviving players that Kyan could’ve upgraded between N2 and N3 are Verelios, Muffin and Aeleus.

 

[Chuggernaut]

I’m telling you, redirected redirect

 

[Sorian]

But why does Vere shoot at and kill a teammate before anyone has flipped? That first flip is crucial and delaying it as long as possible is worth so much. I feel like Kyan wasn't a forgone conclusion at that point for the lynch, was he?

 

[Sorian]

I still haven’t looked at deliberate movement on D3, but the only surviving players that Kyan could’ve upgraded between N2 and N3 are Verelios, Muffin and Aeleus.

The issue here is what VA said, if it's a day command then......? It doesn't matter where anyone is, the map isn't in effect during the day.

 

[Chuggernaut]

But why does Vere shoot at and kill a teammate before anyone has flipped? That first flip is crucial and delaying it as long as possible is worth so much. I feel like Kyan wasn't a forgone conclusion at that point for the lynch, was he?

His name was getting tossed around a lot that day if I remember right, and I’m sure Vere knows that if Kyan did flip that would make him look real good. It’s only a 5% chance too

 

[Brazil]

Seeing who Fand shot at and when he did it would be a good indicator of how scum was playing around with those ITAs. IIRC he spent every single 5% ITA he had on scummates in Marvel Mafia.

 

[Brazil]

The issue here is what VA said, if it's a day command then......? It doesn't matter where anyone is, the map isn't in effect during the day.

But does it make sense for it to be a 2-shot day command? Wouldn’t he be able to use it immediately, then?

We do know for a fact that Kyan deliberately moved during D1 to meet Fand, and we also know Fand was probably upgraded during N1. All signs point to it being a night command.

 

[Sorian]

But does it make sense for it to be a 2-shot day command? Wouldn’t he be able to use it immediately, then?

We do know for a fact that Kyan deliberately moved during D1 to meet Fand, and we also know Fand was probably upgraded during N1. All signs point to it being a night command.

We know that Fand was upgraded before the flying dutchman showed up but do we know it was as early as N1?

 

[Brazil]

We know that Fand was upgraded before the flying dutchman showed up but do we know it was as early as N1?

We don’t *know*, but from the scum flips we have, upgrading Fand’s NK-focused PR was probably a priority... and, again, Kyan actually moved from a different spot in the map to meet Fand (+ myself, Royal and VA) on D1.

 

[Brazil]

Fand moved Kyan and Verelios to Africa on D3 after they had already spent the night together in ??? on N2... Hmmmmmm...

I need to check how Muffin got to Africa.

 

[Sorian]

WILL IT HAPPEN

 

[Sorian]

Hawthorn auto sent that triforce piece somewhere dumb, watch.

 

[Geno]

Chuggernaut you have received the triforce Piece: Courage and the item Excalibur

 

[Sorian]

:DDDDDDDD

Come on Zipped, come back for just a few minutes

 

[Sorian]

Who would use excalibur btw from all the characters we know? :thinking:

 

[Sorian]

Oh, Muffin probably?

Everyone has flavor claimed at this point right? Vere is an odd man out, I don't see an item that Seto Kaiba can use.

 

[Sorian]

Well except Brazil of course.

 

[Brazil]

I'm never claiming flavor

never

 

[Sorian]

That's fine but I'm saying for us, we know it's Vere here right?

 

[Sorian]

Or am I missing something, his flavor isn't anywhere else.

 

[Brazil]

Zipped seems to be around btw

 

[Brazil]

That's fine but I'm saying for us, we know it's Vere here right?

Aren't there players who don't have items associated with them? Since there were less chests than players.

We need Aeleus' spreadsheet.

 

[Sorian]

Aren't there players who don't have items associated with them? Since there were less chests than players.

We need Aeleus' spreadsheet.

Everyone has an item associated with them, player items went out in the events too I believe. The grand prizes were just always universal use stuff.

 

[Sorian]

And some people also share the same item.

 

[Natiko]

Haven’t read the thread but fuck yeah if we get the triforce lol

 

[Sorian]

Fucking ghosts running into my mirror.

 

[Sorian]

Zzzzzz keep refreshing here waiting for a Geno post, come on Zipped, do the right thing.

 

[Brazil]

Can’t believe I’m missing out on the fun

 

[Sorian]

It’s really just me yelling at people. It’s not terribly exciting. I can’t believe Zipped came in and then leaves without sending the triforce tho Zzzzzzz

 

[Sorian]

Hey @Geno we’ve never had the courage triforce piece, what does it do on its own?

 

[Geno]

Hm

 

[Sorian]

Yeah, hm indeed

 

[Sorian]

I suddenly don't like anything any more.

 

[Sorian]

I swear to god Geno, if you are playing games with this shit.

 

[Natiko]

Oh no what is happening in here lol

 

[Natiko]

Is Chugg actually bad? :(

 

[Geno]

Nah no games played here, Nobody gave you the triforce piece you're missing

 

[Sorian]

Nah no games played here, Nobody gave you the triforce piece you're missing

Right now I have power and Chuggs has courage, is that correct?

 

[Natiko]

Nah no games played here, Nobody gave you the triforce piece you're missing

Oh, I think Sorian just was asking about the triforce courage that you said Chugg had. Is that not the piece he received?

 

[Geno]

Right now I have power and Chuggs has courage, is that correct?

That is correct, you are missing 1

 

[Sorian]

That is correct, you are missing 1

Ok, the power piece roleblocks someone if you use an ability on them.

The wisdom piece is a bit self watch check

The courage piece does.....?

 

[Geno]

Ok, the power piece roleblocks someone if you use an ability on them.

The wisdom piece is a bit self watch check

The courage piece does.....?

Hm, I wonder

 

[Sorian]

GENO

Is Chuggs bad or not? Lol

 

[Geno]

GENO

Is Chuggs bad or not? Lol

Hm, I wonder.

 

[Sorian]

Hey @Geno if Natiko had bitten someone and created a private chat with them, would he have been allowed to claim the cult in there or would that still be modkillable?

 

[Geno]

Hey @Geno if Natiko had bitten someone and created a private chat with them, would he have been allowed to claim the cult in there or would that still be modkillable?

modkillable

 

[Brazil]

Fuck me

 

[Brazil]

I will kill you Chuggs

 

[Sorian]

Ok, so theoretically, a betrayed Chuggs also can't claim this anywhere else.

Hmmm

I feel like Geno is being an ass here.

 

[Brazil]

Why would Geno be an ass

The only possible reason for him to not reveal what the item does is if we don’t have access to that info

 

[Sorian]

Why would Geno be an ass

The only possible reason for him to not reveal what the item does is if we don’t have access to that info

Why would he tell us here that Chuggs got those items instead of privately?

 

[Brazil]

Why would he tell us here that Chuggs got those items instead of privately?

Why would he say jman is town in the game thread

 

[Geno]

Ok, so theoretically, a betrayed Chuggs also can't claim this anywhere else.

Hmmm

I feel like Geno is being an ass here.

I'm not being an ass on purpose, I have nothing to tell you about Courage piece and can't reveal anything about Chugg's revival, that's all there is to it lol

 

[Brazil]

(No shade, a million different moving parts)

 

[Chuggernaut]

Oh god I just woke up. I swear he isn’t telling me either

 

[Brazil]

Oh god I just woke up. I swear he isn’t telling me either

So you’re having conversations with Geno through PMs

I hate this game again

 

[Brazil]

Chuggs, ask him here what the item does

 

[Chuggernaut]

Okay

 

[Chuggernaut]

Geno what does the item do

 

[Chuggernaut]

I can wait and give these to Nat or something if you all are that worried about it

 

[Chuggernaut]

Or Sorian. That’s probably easier

 

[Sorian]

lol

Chuggs I do believe you

but just so you know my vindictive streak runs long and this betrayal would be on a level even I wouldn't find amusing

 

[Geno]

Geno what does the item do

Magnificent piece, think it was made around 5000 B.L.(Before Link) by the goddess Farore, it is said the one holding it has great courage, but what could that mean in Mafia terms? (I really got nothing fams, might've had a power that got used up, might be the only piece that does absolutely nothing of the 3, I mean anyone's guess)

 

[Sorian]

See all I'm getting from this is that the courage piece revived Chuggs and that's even more confusing.

 

[Brazil]

I still love you Chuggs, you’re good

 

[Brazil]

On the other hand, it makes no sense for town to rez Chuggs and not claim it, does it?

 

[Sorian]

On the other hand, it makes no sense for town to rez Chuggs and not claim it, does it?

We just have to trust him, Geno is saying everything publicly here, it's probably fine.

 

[Sorian]

Chuggs if you are a cop, you have to tell me. Are you cop horrifying alignment changed undead monster?

 

[Chuggernaut]

i am not a horrifying alignment changed undead monster :( I’m just a goose

 

[Sorian]

I went looking for a picture of someone petting a goose and I got this weird thing of someone jacking off a goose's neck which I assume is a good thing for them?

 

[Geno]

I went looking for a picture of someone petting a goose and I got this weird thing of someone jacking off a goose's neck which I assume is a good thing for them?

Wtf lol

 

[Sorian]

Wtf lol

Yo idk. If I posted something super offensive or weird, I'm sorry. My intent was just human giving goose good pets.

 

[Natiko]

lol

Chuggs I do believe you

but just so you know my vindictive streak runs long and this betrayal would be on a level even I wouldn't find amusing

Dead lol

I went looking for a picture of someone petting a goose and I got this weird thing of someone jacking off a goose's neck which I assume is a good thing for them?

Brb I have to go, uh, take care of something..

———
I think we just have to assume Chuggs isn’t going to eat us all and move on. Like - we have no killing powers and like hell we could convince the thread to flip the revived townie lol

 

[Geno]

Yo idk. If I posted something super offensive or weird, I'm sorry. My intent was just human giving goose good pets.

Nah it's not offensive, it's more wtf than anything, I chuckled

 

[Chuggernaut]

You know what, I’ll take it

 

[Sorian]

To be fair, Chuggs on his own can’t actually take the triforce piece from me lol now if he has a killer backing him, well.

 

[Sorian]

Can you imagine if the gambit here is that Hawthorn and Launch are the last scum and they threw the courage triforce piece at you as a cover peace offering to "prove" she stole those items. Though as I wrote that, she did definitely steal from both Vere and VA, nvm.

 

[Natiko]

I want to win this with 3-4 of us alive SO BAD. After the grand betrayal in HVV2 I am living for the idea of fucking an entire faction out of a win completely out of the blue lol