The back of Keighley's Van

[turmoil7]

I wonder if I should vote for bojack rn

I suck as mafia lol

And as town

But I got a 100% win rate as serial killer

 

[turmoil7]

I threw my hat there

Hope for the best out of this

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[BoJack Horseman]

I wonder if I should vote for bojack rn

It's fine, someone has to so it might as well be you. We've got a tough day on our hands

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I may fakeclaim Maximilias Darzi, https://transistor.fandom.com/wiki/Maximilias_Darzi

And make up that there is a poisoner. Saw's potential delayed death would support that.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

^ there is a poisoner and I am a x shot cure doctor

 

[turmoil7]

Lol that's creative, good luck

If sawneeks flip doctor don't know if it will fly, tho.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Lol that's creative, good luck

If sawneeks flip doctor don't know if it will fly, tho.

Even if Saw is doc, it wouldnt matter. I treat poison, which killed Saw.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[turmoil7]

I hope town gift us the Maol misselimination but the odds are stacked against us here

 

[BoJack Horseman]

We're roundly fucked.

Sorry Zeke lol

What a team we make.

I'll just go scorched earth at this point, no one wants to listen to me anyway. Don't blame them.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

And for what it's worth, I was adding up where people are potentially willing to vote, and there's appetite for Maol and even Fando if the wind blows right.

 

[turmoil7]

We have a saying here that goes like

"somehow town will manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"

so the game isn't lost until it's lost

 

[turmoil7]

The old "divide and conquer town by splitting the town vote in two scum wagons" stratagem

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Could you imagine...

Could you imagine... If somehow you, me, and Maol all made it through the day?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[turmoil7]

Maybe malus could be a self watcher? Weak role but relatively useful. He would know that you visited him if so. Malus plays cards close to his heart so wouldn't give hints IMO

I'm thinking what inoffensive power could you be if you are forced to claim

Sleepwalker(every night visits someone randomly without knowing who) is too fucking convenient but would be an excuse if you were seen by malus/someone else

Doctor if you want to go down outing a potential doctor?

For my part I think I will claim vanilla or bulletproof

 

[turmoil7]

wait

what about

odd night voyeur

Observer

wiki.mafiascum.net

 

[turmoil7]

"malus had no actions performed on him last night" would be your cover

 

[turmoil7]

just a suggestion

making fake claims is fun

by all means go with yours if you come with something you like

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[BoJack Horseman]

I'm just gonna stay quiet today, I might squeak by. It looks like they might be able to convince themselves to go Fando and maybe Maol if you leave them to it. I'll be out for a lot of the day but should hopefully be here in the last couple of hours if I need to claim.

I might just go for the easiest option which is basically keep the same role just with Nero's name. Thinking I'll go with the vig kill idea and seeing what happens.

For my part I think I will claim vanilla or bulletproof

I do think you need to get your fake claim sorted just in case it comes to it. The problem is we're gonna have a huge pile of people claiming interesting roles, it's gonna get very sus. But at the same time, claiming vanilla was part of what got Raz voted out. Tough one. Maybe roll the dice and go with your BP idea.

 

[turmoil7]

If your wagon doesn't take off I wonder if I should look for a chance to unload on Maol or not.

Our best vote out today would be Fando but I think Feign is voting there just in jest, he will move to me when he comes back. So not much hope there.

If it's Maol or Leo then depending on who you or me are likely out tomorrow.

About my claim, the problem with claiming something else would be that my play hasn't being consistent with being a PR. Maybe bulletproof could work, but we are ignoring that with the two of us being so suspicious we *want* the vig to waste their bullet on me(instead of killing you) so giving away I am a bulletproof could not play well for us....

 

[turmoil7]

Also if there is a big it is likely a day vig I think.

Last night there were like 4 good targets for shooting

Only the most restrained players would resist.

Who could that me?

Kold?

 

[turmoil7]

*Vig not big

 

[turmoil7]

Malus could be it but I think he would had used it when he was on the chopping block

 

[BoJack Horseman]

If there a cautious player they might not want to take the risk. So maybe someone like Hobo who seems a bit unsure?

If it comes to it, Maol might be a better vote out for me than you since people might think I'm more genuine after that. But who know how it'll shake out.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[turmoil7]

Dropping random thought:

What's could a conditional godfather be counter to?

A conditional cop

Maybe Dante activates as cop after being visited by you.

Would be an ingenious power

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I'm not talking today. I am talking Day 1, where he had enough of a presence for Fate to chime in with the theory he was trying to get votes off zipped, which is more than I can say for turmoil.

Let me also ask you this: do you see anyone here who has said maol or bust? I think he was an obvious cop choice and yet no one is leading the charge in that direction. It's part of why I don't want to go for malus, either, despite my thoughts. There are obvious choices for cops to go for and we shouldn't waste their actions.

If feign is cop, he is goin to bat too much for maol

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Dropping random thought:

What's could a conditional godfather be counter to?

A conditional cop

Maybe Dante activates as cop after being visited by you.

Would be an ingenious power

That's actually an interesting idea. They have to get something so why not that? They might even get the vig shot I'm running with. That'd be ironic.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

If feign is cop, he is goin to bat too much for maol

We'll see how EOD goes, but at this point, Feign might be the best kill tonight? Which is a shame actually because he seems eager to throw out some random ideas, would be good to keep town distracted.

 

[turmoil7]

If we really think he may is the cop, absolutely. Killing the cop is always #1 priority.

The only problem would be a doctor protecting him.

I hope sawneeks flips doctor

 

[EzekelRAGE]

We'll see how EOD goes, but at this point, Feign might be the best kill tonight? Which is a shame actually because he seems eager to throw out some random ideas, would be good to keep town distracted.

yea he is

also feels weird not defending myself everyday in mafia

 

[turmoil7]

Well I gambited on feign being a cop with a green check on maol

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Well I gambited on feign being a cop with a green check on maol

We don’t need feign to claim and make it any more obvious he may be a cop, because the doc may protect him. We don’t have a strong kill and don’t want to give the doc any more reason to protect feign.

 

[turmoil7]

Yes, yes, that's why I want to give myself an out from voting for maol

 

[turmoil7]

Yes even if we use the strongkill on him on night 3 he will be alive to give her results during d4... Precarious situation

 

[EzekelRAGE]

If feign is cop and did check maolf

meh, kill maol, hoping that doc would be on malus or Neeks.

Maol looks the worst, so a cop would probably check him tonight.

also we know there is a cop in this game......because we have someone that can become a godfather on our team. (Just fully read that post, think I stopped reading it after you said maol was a reach)

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I got some thoughts but I'm going to keep them to myself for now, see how things play out.

LP is really being scummy tho.

Yes.........hold those thoughts.............hold them until you are in your grave!
=====================

Also this will be my "breadcrumb" post if I decide to go with the poison fake claim. The Cure gif.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

poison curer fakeclaim*

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Very tight today, I'm gonna be a nervous wreck by EOD.

Just so I know if I need to play around it, are you both planning on staying on me in most situations?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Very tight today, I'm gonna be a nervous wreck by EOD.

Just so I know if I need to play around it, are you both planning on staying on me in most situations?

I have not choice due to the posts in the thread. Turm idk since he made a post cooling on maol.

 

[turmoil7]

Very tight today, I'm gonna be a nervous wreck by EOD.

Just so I know if I need to play around it, are you both planning on staying on me in most situations?

If there is a tie for long I'm moving

 

[turmoil7]

But only if I feel safe to do so

If yo see an opening somewhere take it without waiting for us to move

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I'm sorta defending Leo, hopefully ppl go "why he defending Leo, must not want us to flip Leo" and vote Leo. Ppl already linking us for some odd reason.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

5/5 fando/bo but LP will vote Bo

 

[BoJack Horseman]

If I go guys, then good luck. Hopefully you can work something out.

I'll just go get drunk in spec chat.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@BoJack Horseman you may not want to claim a pr.

Could be risky with 2 other prs claimed and Maol being one.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

I'm so in two minds about it. Vanilla is such an easy claim but I see what you mean - people might not trust it.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Fuck it, I'm gonna have to go for it and pray for the best.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I'm so in two minds about it. Vanilla is such an easy claim but I see what you mean - people might not trust it.

Say you wanted to gambit the info thing in case you didnt get lynched and could draw a nightkill maybe?


idk. what would be the fakeclaim?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

nvm

 

[EzekelRAGE]

You guys could try a zipped train or jsut let town argue a new candidate.

Probably only go for zipped if you are in trouble turm.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

You've always got Fando to go to turm if you need to save yourself

 

[BoJack Horseman]

I think I'm gonna throw up.

Did we do it?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

And we survive

 

[turmoil7]

lmao we made it by the single hair a bald frog

 

[turmoil7]

Bojack I loved your claim, nice job

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Could you imagine...

Could you imagine... If somehow you, me, and Maol all made it through the day?

The lord works in mysterious ways...

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Bojack I loved your claim, nice job

I didn't expect it to work as well as it did. On borrowed time probably but it gives me a bit more space.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

And I totally forgot about the Sneeks kill as well lol

 

[turmoil7]

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Sneeks, odd night doctor, good call gang

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Kill: Feign

Think it may be too risky for either of you two to do the kill in case of roleblocker.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Yeah good call. I'll have a think about who and if I want to check someone.

 

[turmoil7]

Hopefully they go paranoid and that gives us some slack

 

[turmoil7]

Now, if there is a vigilante in the game we will probably wake up to a dead Bojack...

 

[turmoil7]

Best case: the vig kills Maol

 

[turmoil7]

@BoJack Horseman you may not want to claim a pr.

Could be risky with 2 other prs claimed and Maol being one.

Missed this

Maol is sorted PR?

 

[turmoil7]

*Softed, not sorted

Can I kill autocorrect?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Missed this

Maol is sorted PR?

yea, but maol is probably vanilla trying to tank the kill for a pr.

It was when he was defending himself from the neeks/mal thing.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[turmoil7]

Should Bojack search for Dante?

 

[BoJack Horseman]

I was just thinking about this. Hi by the way.

I think I should because people are expecting it now. The question is do I WANT to find them? And the only thing I noticed last night was Fate saying:

it can give us a vig trmw depending on what scum does tonight

Which I don't know if it's him misreading my role or if he's hinting to check him. If I find Dante then people will expect me to use my vig kill. So I don't know whether to just search Fate and see, or go for a town read like Kold and use that as an excuse.

 

[turmoil7]

Let's say you find Dante and "get your vig kill"

It is a night kill, so you will have to use it on night 3

And then when only one dead happens, you can say you where role blocked. If you are role blocked it is standard the game runner will tell you something like "your action failed, your still have your shot"

Scum on night 3 will know you are probably a vigilante, so they may want to role block you just in case

 

[turmoil7]

Maybe don't be too open about finding Dante or not.

Don't tell them you looked for malus either on night 1. Play cards close to your chest, you don't want to give scum unesseary info. Certainly you don't want to let scum them know if you got your vig kill.

Also, if there is a role that does movement related investigations in the game and they claim you have to be ready to say if you can corroborate their abili. Probably you won't because it is unlikely they tracked you or a watcher/voyeur was on malus but just make it look like you are trying to use your power to solve and figure out people.

And if you don't want to find Dante you can always Dante? Me or Zeke. You won't find Dante and you will still have your movement abili that fits your claim.

 

[turmoil7]

Well, zeke said your role was NAI and stayed there, it would be weird to search him, maybe. As for me I doubted your claim.

You are out there looking for potential dantes, so who can be a Dante?

 

[turmoil7]

After you claimed Fate became adamant on voting me out.... Yeah maybe he is Dante and bought your claim hook line and sinker.

 

[turmoil7]

Also if you find Dante remember we will learn what their role is

 

[turmoil7]

Remember if someone comes out asking you if you found Dante shade them for trying to give info to scum

 

[turmoil7]

I think today will be mostly me Vs Leo with sides of Bojack/Hobo/Zipped/maybe Kold?/LP?

What are you gonna do about your Bojack tunnel zeke?

Bojack it will look suspicious if you side with me after I was on you the whole day phase. Bus me. If I die my power will give credence your claim.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Yeah, my plan was to go in on you hard from the start. I might even just drop an insta vote and start from there. I only realised after the vote that I was on Fando with all three of my D2 reads so I need to lampshade that as soon as possible.

And my only worry if Fate is Dante is what they get in return. Might end up being the N3 kill. Let's just see what happens with this: Dante?: FateShirou

 

[Aeleus]

Kill: Feign

Think it may be too risky for either of you two to do the kill in case of roleblocker.

Yeah, my plan was to go in on you hard from the start. I might even just drop an insta vote and start from there. I only realised after the vote that I was on Fando with all three of my D2 reads so I need to lampshade that as soon as possible.

And my only worry if Fate is Dante is what they get in return. Might end up being the N3 kill. Let's just see what happens with this: Dante?: FateShirou

Commands Received

 

[turmoil7]

hats off to feign if he is vanilla baiting a kill lol

 

[turmoil7]

I hope Dante is a neutral survivor.... we could subtly "recruit" him for our cause

 

[turmoil7]

Let's check the numbers

if the NK is successful and Bojack isn't vigged:

Hobo
EC
Kold
Fate
Leo
Zipped
Maol
Hedin
Neki
LP
Malus

14 players

11 townies* vs 3 scum

if we succeed killing every night, the team needs to mis-eliminate 4 times, town has the margin to chose to No Vote in MeLo( https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miseliminate-and-Lose )

The point is, maybe we will need to be tactical in who and in what order to miseliminate. For example when Zipped flips townie I will look bad, so if there is a choice between let's say Hobo and Zipped and you have no previous stakes in play, go Hobo, but always having care of safeguarding your position first.

(maybe one of them is neutral but probably doesn't matter to our purpose, if they leave the game early with a wincon unrelated to us it improves our odds, though)

 

[turmoil7]

Also if everything goes well in the night kill department the number of miseliminations we need doesn't change, regardless of when and in what order we go down.

The only thing we need is one of us alive to cross the finish line(Zeke in all likelihood)

If we aren't sure of a move, let's not jeopardize the long term position of the team for a short term gain.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[turmoil7]

No powers? What a bummer, hopefully someone will invite you to a night chat or something. You are a Vanilla townie

now I am hope maol and feign didn't share a gossip in N1 instead of being a green check..... if they did they played us good

Anyways not like we have the luxury of choosing here

 

[turmoil7]

Bojack check in after night actions close to know if you were vigged

 

[Aeleus]

FateShirou is not Dante from the Devil May Cry Series

 

[turmoil7]

Bojack?!

BOOOJAAAAAAAACK?????

 

[BoJack Horseman]

I'm still here! For now...

 

[BoJack Horseman]

now I am hope maol and feign didn't share a gossip in N1 instead of being a green check..... if they did they played us good

Anyways not like we have the luxury of choosing here

What's the context of that quote?

 

[turmoil7]

What's the context of that quote?

That's from the generic vanilla role

It's an inside joke in the community

Usually people here loves roles that create night chats("gossips" is how they are called).

I just feared maol and feign trusted each other due to a gossip rather than a green check

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Oh right, gotcha.

I see it now lol

 

[EzekelRAGE]