what are we doing town? if turm and Bojack are off the table today, who would we be shooting for next?
I still think there's probably scum among the players who were pushing for a more apathetic approach yesterday. Between the four of them, there's a decent chance at least two are scum between Hobo, LP, Leo and Hedin.
But if there's only one, then town needs to look at the late Raz voters, and people who have been off wagon consistently. People like Zeke, malus or EC.
I know today feels like an easy day, but it shouldn't be. There's a decent chance turm has just been misguided townie this whole time, and scum are perfectly fine letting town walk themselves into this flip, hence why there's not much going on today so far. We need some pressure on other spots, otherwise town's gonna walk themselves into a losing position again.
I could swear there was a game were Fando was madbussing teammates. Anyways not very interested going there this early in the game.
I am indeed a mad busser; it's actually a really bad habit that I have and proof that I suck as scum. I'm surprised you know about this though as we were never scum together.
Paranoia had me thinking that maybe this was something mentioned in scum thread, but Maol is the only player in the game that I've been scum with (and bussed lol) and I don't think he'd share that specifically any way.
Sorta similar to my paths I said earlier, we have the same conclusions anyway. Hobo is the decider.Day 5. Vote out Ambulance/Zipped. 8 left.
Night 5. Maol can act but not Fate. Assume scum gets the kill off. 7 left. Koldanar dies.
Day 6. Pick the other between Zipped/Ambulance. 6 left.
Scum gets a guaranteed kill on Fate N6 and they have to because he can act but not Maol. This is the safest option. 5 left.
Day 7. Me, nin, Hobo, Zeke, Maol. Vote me off or nin. 4 left.
Next night is Night 7 and since Sneeks had no self protection caveat, Maol can protect himself. Scum shoots either me or nin. Zeke is too risky to target. 3 left.
Now you have Maol and probably Hobo and Zeke left. 1 neutral, 1 town, 1 scum. Hobo can play kingmaker and scum can win with him. Who is scum then?
My truffle shuffle bretheren!Zeke also had a chance to hammer Maol yesterday and they didn't.
I bring this up because at that point in time the only players remaining that Kold had had active votes on were Maol and Nin (via Malus). If scum had been able to get Maol sent off at that point they could have safely killed Kold night 5 which would have activated nin as our conditional vig...who could only shoot themselves. I just feel if scum wasn't already on the waggon at that point they would have jumped at the chance.
I'm almost positive that Zeke is clean.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOThe unexpected Raz vote D1 made scum look bad enough that they likely resolved to start bussing. There were others suspicious enough to die but generally it was always going to be an uphill battle for them.
The fact that Zeke was on Raz is a pretty good indication that he's town. So if it's between him and Ambulance, I lean slightly more towards Ambulance.
But I don't want to look ahead because it's likely just Zipped.
Scumreads Fate - No too bad since me and maol felt the same about fate possibly being scum. But............I still think it's Fate. Going off votes, he's the most suspicious to me. Hedin/Ambulance is also possible.
My name is Henter Jallaford
I am aligned with town
My role is cop
I expected a cop. The checks are convenient.
Even throwing shade on Fate after the claim. Sowing doubt.But considering scum had a conditional godfather and this is a normal setup I see reason to disbelieve it.
Speaking of godfather, remember when Hedin mistakenly thought Raz was one?
And now it's time for interesting facts!
Never voted scum off
Shifted votes to save turm :
Shade on Koldanar who turned out to be IC.Bonus post by Koldanar trying to shade 3 townies.
Maol pushed Zeke to reveal more about his role, and then floated a wild theory that scum shot BoJack. If scum died targeting someone, scum would want to know if they can do that again, and if they seem hesitant to reveal, that may be scummy. It's too risky to target Zeke at night so keep him until the end and try to undermine him as possible scum in the meantime.
Don't forget the fake tracker claim on EC. He claims it was to dodge the NK. There were plenty of options that night that had more town cred than Maol. It wasn't to get EC killed either because he was well on his way to dying before the claim even happened. It was done to lure out the real tracker.
BoJack was a Dante cop. Raz was a PR cop. A town tracker would be a logical counter, but Maol had to make sure there wasn't one in the game. He baited a counter claim. Either way, he'd use the backup claim and then eliminate the tracker freely, since the doctor is dead.
TL;DR: Maol is scum
1. Despite claiming to live another night and be useful, there's a scenario like the one above where he survives until the end. We have a tendency to leave claimed PR's alone so scum can resolve the slot, but scum has higher priorities at the moment.
2. Backup cop/doc seems too strong in this setup.
3. Fake tracker claim was done to bait a CC, as a tracker is one of the biggest threats to scum now. Nothing to do with trying to survive another night.
4. Don't forget Hobo is neutral survivor so town doesn't have that much wiggle room
LP's response:voting maol out right now means i die tonight
and with how much the rest of you post
we will most likly make it to MYLO
Didn't care about Fate living. The check isnt even the important thing about Fate. It's the fact that Fate is confirmed town should be reason enough to possibly save fate. A confirmed townie voice.You will die either way. Scum is not going to let you get another check off.
Yet he ended up pushing maol and getting him killed.If Koldanar is IC then scum is most definitely Ambulance.
You can flip me after because I don't want to be around at MVLO to figure it out.
Considering that the phase isn't over suggests last scum is already on my wagon.
The three vanillas were on that wagon.
Zeke isnt the type to mentor scum like nat does
so i can believe zeke let bojack/turm/raz act go out that way
zipped wasnt around much this game
maybe scum team didnt have a leader
if zeke was scum, i think he would have directed the team better...