The Mystery Machine

[San Franpsycho]

Use it on Baba/Eddy or Kook/Hawthorn.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Use it on Baba/Eddy or Kook/Hawthorn.

Do we want Baba/Eddy? I'm confident we can push him hard D4, I'd rather Kook/Thorn or Ephi/Neon

 

[San Franpsycho]

Is it wrong to be proud of town for actually having their shit together? It sucks for us but in a meta level they did good work today along with their mechanical assist.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Is it wrong to be proud of town for actually having their shit together? It sucks for us but in a meta level they did good work today along with their mechanical assist.

Oh for sure, I think they are doing well despite me complaining. Speaking of, are you worried at all, some are suspecting you.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Oh for sure, I think they are doing well despite me complaining. Speaking of, are you worried at all, some are suspecting you.

I 100% think I'm the next to go. I was hoping I'd get a chance to post again before the day ended but I missed it by about 20 minutes. I'm gonna do a little rereading today and mull over my next move.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I 100% think I'm the next to go. I was hoping I'd get a chance to post again before the day ended but I missed it by about 20 minutes. I'm gonna do a little rereading today and mull over my next move.

Next to go if one of us gets lynched you mean right? Not in general, because I think we have at least 2/3 more people to vote before you are on the table.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Yeah, next of us.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

I miss Chuggs, RIP. Gone but not forgotten.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I miss Chuggs, RIP. Gone but not forgotten.

Same, anyway what's the plan now?

 

[Woodsman]

I think we have no choice but to go for Snack Monster. We can't really afford another green check, and much less another red check.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I think we have no choice but to go for Snack Monster. We can't really afford another green check, and much less another red check.

Yeah, and hope doc works like usual, because I really think his next target is Monkey. Natiko probably uses his ability on Kook?, you do the kill, me and monkey chill.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Yeah, kinda feel like we have to go Snack - but I do think there's something going on there. Snack apparently scanned Gnome N1, but sat on the information. Today he instantly reveals and says he felt he needed to not sit on it any longer. Part of me wonders if he did have a BP which would explain why he came out with the info. Could of course mean a doctor still exists if so though...

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Yeah, kinda feel like we have to go Snack - but I do think there's something going on there. Snack apparently scanned Gnome N1, but sat on the information. Today he instantly reveals and says he felt he needed to not sit on it any longer. Part of me wonders if he did have a BP which would explain why he came out with the info. Could of course mean a doctor still exists if so though...

Scum's only hope of taking out the cop is by shooting them, I've never seen anyone put BP on cop before, it'd be real dumb.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Scum's only hope of taking out the cop is by shooting them, I've never seen anyone put BP on cop before, it'd be real dumb.

Yeah, I'm not saying we don't do it - just nervous lol

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Yeah, I'm not saying we don't do it - just nervous lol

Yeah, I am too, but I think our position is good, most people should town read me for 4 or so days, you are widely town read too, Monkey isn't gonna happen for 2-3 more days, Woody I worry about but we'll think of something when that day comes.

 

[Woodsman]

Char should be set for a while with that soft confirm. I seem to have collected some Scum reads as we're approaching the "hey, malus is quiet let's vote him out"-phase of the game, but I think there are other players left that will gather some heat after last day phase.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Same with the nervous, but not sure we have a choice - we gotta do it. I can also carry the kill, btw. I have a hard time imagining there's something other than cops when the only defense against that stuff we had was the switch, right?

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

I hope so. I’m kinda surprised we don’t have a block but I’m betting Ael built a lot of these town roles with drawbacks

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Lets see who this really is: Spooky Space Kook, Hawthorn

 

[Aeleus]

Command Received

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Just in case...

Woodsman Kill: Scooby Snack Monster

 

[Aeleus]

Command Received

 

[Aeleus]

Spooky Space Kook is not Hawthorn

 

[San Franpsycho]

well goddamn, I think I've lost my touch
I am the worst
RIP
guess I was onto something with the images in the first place

I RESCIND MY SPIDER-VERSE GIF FROM EARLIER

 

[San Franpsycho]

I feel like this is also probably a harbinger of another bad day.

 

[San Franpsycho]

We should have cleared someone else as the n1 chat target, probably, since Geno could bodyjump anyway. Oh well, hindsight.

I think our protection order should be Nat (since he has no other protection > Geno (since he has a soft confirm) > me = malus
Either of us could go, and honestly, I have tons of work to do always so I don't mind being a sacrifice. It could be fun. But we'll see where we are after day start.

 

[San Franpsycho]

hoooo boy we got played

Chuggs is HOLLERING right now in spec thread

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Well this is all types of unfortunate. Really can't have you flipping before Snow Ghost then.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

But hey...knew it seemed weird to have two cops lol

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Just came back from work and wtf did Snack really gamble that, fuck my life.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Fake rage over, but wtf is that theory that came out of nowhere and everyone just ate it up... I need to think of a claim.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I can claim roleblocker and frame someone but idk if they'll believe it.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Idk friends, I really thought I was safe for a bit, I'll try everything I can think of so I can escape this day.

 

[San Franpsycho]

I don’t know. I’m legit sick and it’s hard to think through strats right now. I think it will be a quiet weekend though so maybe if we sit a bit we will see another wagon form.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Get well soon monkey, I'll most likely be working on day end time, I'm getting pretty fucked. I'll try to hink of something.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

POWER WOLF TIME - gonna do everything I can to argue against your death. And if it backfires... surely scum wouldn't so blatantly defend scum right?!

 

[San Franpsycho]

One thing possible is that we could argue that the Geno votes d2 felt kinda fake? people even apologized and said "ghost bear was always going to be the kill," etc - what if poor dead techni never thought his green check was in such danger that he needed to out himself? it's better to stay low key

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I think it's believable enough, I'll prove DV tomorrow after all.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Actually forgot jman, what a mistake.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I think it's gg for me, how unlucky this game has been, seriously.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Very unlucky. :/

 

[San Franpsycho]

Why does Alien think you'd know who they were?

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Yeah, sorry Geno think you're toast here. Backing away from my power wolf plan lol

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Why does Alien think you'd know who they were?

No idea, wasn't lying there, genuinely don't know who they are. Btw this is on me, I once was a good player, now I'm shit, everyone knows my strategies inside out, they can even tell "classic geno fakeclaims", unless I change my strategy, town or scum I'll be gone in the first few days, I really thought I'd be safe for 1 or 2 more days.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

In hindsight I should've claimed doc and saved Snacks N2 just to out the real one, no comeback from there though.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I'll try some reverse psychology here in case they hear jman.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Might as well. Can't hurt, at least.

I have a weird theory Baba is actually the arsonist and it's an even night power.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Might as well. Can't hurt, at least.

I have a weird theory Baba is actually the arsonist and it's an even night power.

I thought of that too, because of the way he pushed me as arsonist.

 

[Woodsman]

I hate these days when the vote is already predetermined. I have no idea what to talk about.

 

[San Franpsycho]

I'm gonna try to help and if nothing else it should give us some interactions

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I'm very upset about how this game went ngl, bunch of shit dominoes, I'll see you on the other side friends.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Sorry to see you go, man.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Sorry you got got Geno. I'd say we'll avenge you but I'm not feeling super optimistic because it seems San and Wood are getting some heat already, and my head has just not been in the game the last phase or two. Sorry friends :( I will try to do better. Don't want to replace out because that would just suck for the person coming in and also I just never replace out.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

I wonder if Stan is the doc. Would explain why he would be willing to go in so hard on the theory - he'd know he protected Snack the night before, and if Snack got shot after claiming cop then of course scum would feel safe shooting there - they already got blocked once by him. Dunno - just an idea. Don't think we can do anything about it without an actual counter to the doc. Can't shoot Stan tonight.

 

[San Franpsycho]

I’m just trying to make it less obvious when they kill me.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

I need to try and step it up next phase or I’m sure they’ll all turn on me too lol

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

So what are we thinking?

 

[Woodsman]

Stealing Stan will obviously not be voted out after that and he also has some sway over Town. On the other hand he'll be a prime target for the doctor tonight. Other than that I'd say Space Kook or Neon could also be a good kill target. The masons don't seem too much of a threat at the moment, but I think leaving them alive could bite us in the ass in the end.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

I think Space Kook is a possible misvote in the future. Not as sure on Neon. I don't think a Mason kill is the worst idea.

 

[San Franpsycho]

I think one of you should claim tracker and red check me.

It sucks but we are all at risk somewhere. If you claim and are out of shots it’s not so sus if you don’t die with so many other targets and I’m in the ropes anyway. I fucked up with the switch thing.

It’s a risk because there may be a real tracker, but I doubt it? And it’s a Hail Mary for a game that may be lost otherwise without it.

 

[San Franpsycho]

I also think you guess Baba/ GorlakEddy

 

[San Franpsycho]

I considered faking a track on Kook but it only buys me a day and then I die, probably. This way one of you is safe.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Two shots, used one n1 to track someone we were sus on who we know didn’t move (Skunk or Cat, maybe Cat since the meow thing), RB n2, then decided to save the other shot until you had good reads. Then got me. Make sure it aligns with your reads though. Maybe if malus does it, slide in a track on Char instead. Idk. We can work it out. But I think this is best.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Big gamble that there isn't a tracker out there though, and while normally you could guess since we don't have a counter there is no tracker - here it's not as simple given we don't have a counter to the doctor either.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

If I do it I'd have to say I tracked Ghost Bear N1, got not movement, but didn't view it as conclusive. Can point back to past games biting me (Super Mario...UGH).

 

[San Franpsycho]

I look at it this way:

It's a dice roll for us to win at this point anyway. We lost two early, I'm on the ropes, we don't know where malus stands post-Geno (but hopefully better), and you'll be a juicy target soon just because so many people look good. We need to live long enough to see the arsonist take people out (I'm guessing at this point that the arsonist probably hit Frankenstein n1? or can only hit vanillas?) to even make this viable and luckily none of us are good arsonist targets. I'm guessing they need three and if they are successful tonight and there's no firefighter, then tomorrow night they ignite, game gets smaller, you get closer to victory. malus will be in better shape now potentially in a post-Geno landscape. I'm the weak link.

 

[San Franpsycho]

So I figure we can either take longer, suffer, and probably still lose, or attempt a wild hail mary. It's really down to what you prefer because I'm unlikely to be around regardless lol

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

I mean...I do enjoy getting to clown on you (Ambo will enjoy this after the game, it was for you buddy). I have the history to support not putting weight behind a no movement result and reversing stance on you after the heat picked up that I wasn't around for. But maybe Malus could sell it better - what do you think? @Woodsman Me or you for the fake claim?

 

[San Franpsycho]

I don't know if we'll hear from him today before actions lock. I hope so! I wish I'd thought of this last night my time since it was more likely we'd see him.

 

[San Franpsycho]

I can open defending myself on the switch thing and going hard on some people, including you/whomever does the red and then the checker can skate in and be like "lol no"

I can also do the kill. It means we need to pick a safe target though. Because if the doc saves, this won't work, obviously.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

This feels so bad. I need to read the stuff I missed still - is it really that bad for you? Like almost no chance of pulling you back from the brink?

Wax would be I think the least likely to be protected of the essentially confirmed group. If we really don't want to go for a locked green person at all then maybe Snow Ghost?

 

[San Franpsycho]

I think I fucked up the switch thing too much. It's possible I can come back but PoE will get us anyway because there are too many people who are comfortably townread and have no heat at all and no smoking guns.

Don't feel bad. It's historically accurate for you to skewer me in some way :D

I think Snow Ghost would be a better target than Wax, who just isn't playing. I don't want to touch anyone who's been doused, though, and I wonder if they'll douse Wax for the same reason. Hyde would be good, maybe? They promised to go hard on Alien today so it could take out someone actually participating/shade Alien too. And the way I moved off Alien, promised to go in on them yesterday but didn't, etc... that could be used, too.

 

[Woodsman]

I can do the fake claim, but I can't say I'm 100% comfortable with it.

I don't believe there is a tracker when we have a Vanilla Cop, Doctor and Masons, but I'm honestly not the best fake claimer.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Okay, then I can open up saying I reevaluated you and of course you'd bus blah blah blah

and then when I flip, you should both be safe, yeah? Nat does it and I attack you and in the circle I fall, but you two are good. I think it will work, but if y'all have better ideas, I'm open to them!

 

[Woodsman]

Actually, this is from Skunkbeard:

I wasn’t visited last night.

It was when everybody confirmed not to have been in the gossip chat or being doused, but it's strange wording for that.

 

[Woodsman]

Could be nothing, but could also mean a (self-)watcher.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Maybe but I also believe Ambulance when he said he was vanilla right before replacing out. Though let me confirm that he actually said that and I'm not making it up.

 

[Woodsman]

Speaking of replacements: @Aeleus Do we have to guess the new player or is the replaced player also accepted?

 

[San Franpsycho]

oh, I guess he didn't? but this is interesting, from new Skunkbeard, I think:

Scooby Doo 2: Mafia Unleashed - This time there are costumes!

Surprised you didn't go for me to be honest. I have no idea who you are. Well you can see my thoughts above. In short: I have no fuggin idea on Skunk, I keep flip-flopping. But I'm currently checking Stan's theory to see if it holds water, so I'm rereading you. You asked this exact same...

www.outermafia.com

does a town vanilla cop suggest a lack of trackers? I think that truly just two cops on town at all plus nothing from us suggests a lack of tracker

Hmm. We could possibly kill new Skunkbeard just to make sure this doesn't come back?

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

So I'm claiming two shot tracker, N1 I tracked Ghost Bear and got no movement which I didn't find particularly conclusive because of past experience as a tracker biting me. I decided to sit on my second track for a bit because the D2 vote didn't feel like it gave me much to go off - then with the red check on Gnome D3 causing another phase with the air sucked out I continued to sit. CCG's claim including a tracker shot is why I immediately flipped my stance on him once I read it and shit on the claim, even if I thought the gossip stuff was bunk. When I caught up on reading and saw all the questions around Sans D4 I felt like I should take the gamble and use my last shot there because I was well aware of who you were and how crafty you can be.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Yes, I think that's PERFECT.

And I go in hard on malus in my opening post.

What do you guys think?

 

[Woodsman]

I'm fine with that. There should be enough material for you to work with for your read on me.

 

[Woodsman]

I'll try to be around for day start.

 

[Aeleus]

Speaking of replacements: @Aeleus Do we have to guess the new player or is the replaced player also accepted?

If either are guessed I'll let you know

 

[San Franpsycho]

I BELIEVE IN US

 

[San Franpsycho]

Okay, I'll carry the kill. Have we any final thoughts on that? We have an hour to decide.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Then we can use my power on Skunkbeard just to know and use Ambo for the guess. That'll let us know if he's any sort of watcher/tracker/whatever. I just finally read through the posts I had missed - yeah, I can see why you think you're doomed. People are going to take that switch comment as an accidental leak of discussion from scum chat.

I still have a bad feeling this is going to implode horribly, but I think you're right that we're in a really bad spot and can't do much but swing for the fences.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Lets see who this really is: Captain Skunkbeard, A Wild Ambulance Appears

 

[San Franpsycho]

Then we can use my power on Skunkbeard just to know and use Ambo for the guess. That'll let us know if he's any sort of watcher/tracker/whatever. I just finally read through the posts I had missed - yeah, I can see why you think you're doomed. People are going to take that switch comment as an accidental leak of discussion from scum chat.

I still have a bad feeling this is going to implode horribly, but I think you're right that we're in a really bad spot and can't do much but swing for the fences.

it's the difference between failing in general and at least going out legends :D

My suggestion is Hyde Monster but I've been wrong so much this game that maybe we don't trust me and just go for someone really off the wall like Jman.

 

[Woodsman]

Who all claimed doused again?

 

[Aeleus]

Command Received

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Who all claimed doused again?

Cat was one, honestly I don't remember the rest

 

[San Franpsycho]

Cat and Baba claimed doused, none on n1

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

I was inclined to go Hyde as well, I only backpedaled some when we started talking about absolutely needing a kill to go through for this plan to work.

 

[San Franpsycho]

n1 either fail (bc vanilla or bc forgot), Franks, or my tinfoil hat theory about an even night douse and Baba is the arsonist is correct. It's probably not that one lol.

 

[San Franpsycho]

My GUT is that Hyde is a relatively safe kill... but there's a slight chance because basically confirmed. Wax is definitely safer, but doesn't help really beyond confirmed.

 

[Woodsman]

Yeah, I think Hyde could work. He's not the highest on the must protect list and it reduces the pool of "confirmed" Town.

Also as long as nobody of us is doused we should avoid hitting the arsonist.

 

[Woodsman]

Though thinking about it, going for Hyde might confirm Cat and Baba, since we're clearly not interested in hitting the arsonist.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

I say Hyde or Snow Ghost. I'll leave the choice up to Monkey.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Though thinking about it, going for Hyde might confirm Cat and Baba, since we're clearly not interested in hitting the arsonist.

This is a good point but also we don’t know if there’s a firefighter in the game and the confirmed have to die eventually

Though y’know… what if Wax just suddenly starts playing for real? This is obviously someone with SOME savvy.