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[LaunchpadMcQ]

damn, they got baba too

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Yeah big blow for town. I hope they get san fran, the big meanie.

 

[Baba Yaga]

hi,
that was a fun game so far
I'm sad I'm dead :(
I wanted to say so much and get up a town core and all

Right now I would've gunned hard for Sans who ignored Char completely all game, even when he was the leading wagon, not one comment. lol. I really hope they won't let her get away.

 

[Hyde Monster]

At least scum can't use my dumb meow/baba theory

 

[Cat Creature]

that was a fun game so far
I'm sad I'm dead :(
I wanted to say so much and get up a town core and all

Same here! I was having a lot of fun in this one and was really prepared to dig in today and do a lot of reading and vote analyzing with 2 Scum flips lol.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Chugg may or may not have chatted me the other day after I died and told me who the final(?) scum member is. Town still has an uphill battle ahead of them, even if they get SanFranScumkey.

no clue who the arson is.

 

[Hyde Monster]

Baba hoping I hit arsonist

you should've hit wax just for lols

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Chugg may or may not have chatted me the other day after I died and told me who the final(?) scum member is. Town still has an uphill battle ahead of them, even if they get SanFranScumkey.

no clue who the arson is.

Tell me!

 

[Baba Yaga]

Pazzo! YES! Now dig in and never let her get away!

 

[AllThingsPurple]

So Hyde is Bear? I think we only played once before and I died early on in that game

 

[Hyde Monster]

(also it's not ephi or zeke)

 

[Verelios]

Pazzo! YES! Now dig in and never let her get away!

Big final turnabout energy. Pazzo is that ghost

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Tell me!

Too early to let that one out of the bag. I’ll let Chugg do it if he wants to lol

 

[Baba Yaga]

So Stan, Hyde and Wax would've been my core. I'd ask them if Cat is cool or not (still wasn't entirely convinced)
Next would've been if they trusted me enough to get Sans out today.
Sans got looks pretty bad with Char. Missing everything. No talk until Char was done.

Also D2, Gnome and Char jump immediately on my vote on Sans, defend her and don't want discussion about the Anthos lynch. Red flag. Dead giveaway. I hope they find it.

Based on that a Boo flip would've been my second priority, simply based on how much info we would gain. I had this prepared and all. I was ready to eat a mislynch here just to be able to read the interactions.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

So Stan, Hyde and Wax would've been my core. I'd ask them if Cat is cool or not (still wasn't entirely convinced)
Next would've been if they trusted me enough to get Sans out today.
Sans got looks pretty bad with Char. Missing everything. No talk until Char was done.

Also D2, Gnome and Char jump immediately on my vote on Sans, defend her and don't want discussion about the Anthos lynch. Red flag. Dead giveaway. I hope they find it.

Based on that a Boo flip would've been my second priority, simply based on how much info we would gain. I had this prepared and all. I was ready to eat a mislynch here just to be able to read the interactions.

Sorry baba, who is under the costume?

 

[The Bear]

So Hyde is Bear? I think we only played once before and I died early on in that game

Aeleus spoiled my fun :(

 

[Baba Yaga]

So yeah, outside of D1 we don't have good vote data. D2 is much more interesting in how votes were shifted.

Both Boo and Snow G being town seems so improbable. If Stan bussed here, kudos to him, but not gonna touch this until f3. He would've been set for me.

One between Neon and Lightning is also reasonable. Lightning got townread for nothing, would've reread there definitely. Neon had that silly read that looked like a fake on a scummate.

 

[Cat Creature]

Yeah Monkey is totally Scum here. She hasn't yet handed Town a Scum player on a silver platter yet and its what, D5? And that pretyped from her is bad lol, going after Woodsman now after my read of him not being partnered with Char, and I'm not there to defend it anymore lol, shame on her!

 

[Cat Creature]

Aeleus spoiled my fun :(

Oh wow, would not have guessed that was you lol. Nice to play with you again!

 

[The Bear]

Oh wow, would not have guessed that was you lol. Nice to play with you again!

it helps that I played like shit, lol

 

[Baba Yaga]

lol new captain really didn't like me huh?

 

[Baba Yaga]

it helps that I played like shit, lol

Oh no, you didn't! I really like when you turned it up and gave your input. There was a reason I asked you for your opinion before day end. And I would've banked on your support to figure this out. I'm glad we had one more game together with how rarely we play nowadays :)

 

[Baba Yaga]

Also Snacks respect for nailing scum there! It was a great way to go on about that gambit and with how Gnome reacted it was clear, so you kept going which was great!

You can actually see the salt in Sans posts about the gambit, that really hit scum.

 

[Cat Creature]

You can actually see the salt in Sans posts about the gambit, that really hit scum.

This is so true in hindsight lmao.

 

[The Bear]

Oh no, you didn't! I really like when you turned it up and gave your input. There was a reason I asked you for your opinion before day end. And I would've banked on your support to figure this out. I'm glad we had one more game together with how rarely we play nowadays :)

I spent most of the D4 on the BabaMeow theory train.

If I'm being honest, I just had a hard time getting a grasp on the game. D1 and 2 I was visiting friends for the first time since pandemic started, so I was just getting drunk every night. Then after claiming masons it was Gnome day and then Geno day, when getting any sort of interesting traction or information was going to be difficult. It took me until D3 to remember costume nicknames too.

 

[Baba Yaga]

I'm still team Anthos did nothing wrong. Surprisingly 3 scum thought it was not a bad lynch. Welp, Stan's the man. Damn it, could I have made my position on Sans clearer? I really hope they look at her interactions with Gnome/Char.

 

[Baba Yaga]

Don't be too hard on yourself @The Bear. I think you played decent and even I liked your BabaMeow theory ;)

 

[Baba Yaga]

Sorry baba, who is under the costume?

Geno's worst nightmare.

 

[Geno]

Never ever ever would I guess Hyde was Bear. I thought I'd take over Sparks but that'd be expected.

 

[The Bear]

Poor people thinking Wax isn't Sparks

 

[Anthos]

Can I just say this game/d1 pissed me the fuck off.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

Geno's worst nightmare.

Terra?

 

[Chuggernaut]

Can I just say this game/d1 pissed me the fuck off.

Sorry friend :( it was indeed a bad kill

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

If you want to see bad play...read my gossip chats after the game lol

 

[The Bear]

What are you doing Wax.

I never said I was doused.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Also Snacks respect for nailing scum there! It was a great way to go on about that gambit and with how Gnome reacted it was clear, so you kept going which was great!

You can actually see the salt in Sans posts about the gambit, that really hit scum.

lol thanks. I burst out laughing when you posted that Gambit gif, totally had me figured out

 

[Baba Yaga]

Can I just say this game/d1 pissed me the fuck off.

Hi friend, yes it was unfair, but see it was a hard scum push from Sans, who did all she could to manage wagons to her liking.

Anyway who's under the costume? :)

Terra?

No :D Fun Fact: Launch forgot we ever played together (we even were lovers!)

I was known as Gorlak.

 

[The Bear]

 

[The Bear]

No :D Fun Fact: Launch forgot we ever played together (we even were lovers!)

I was known as Gorlak.

We're the old guard I suppose.

I was sus when you said that "based on Arsonist dousing me and Cat, they must be old guard".

 

[Anthos]

Sorry friend :( it was indeed a bad kill

Oh I have thoughts

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Oh, hey Gorlak! Been a while, you were in my first game

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

No :D Fun Fact: Launch forgot we ever played together (we even were lovers!)

I did not forget a second time! I was actually going to answer ATP with “my former Love Boat teammate”, but figured i’d let you answer.

Until the most recent game we were in together, I thought Bear was my partner in Love Boat (who was actually just the gamerunner). I really don’t remember that game very well at all.

 

[The Bear]

I did not forget a second time! I was actually going to answer ATP with “my former Love Boat teammate”, but figured i’d let you answer.

Until the most recent game we were in together, I thought Bear was my partner in Love Boat (who was actually just the gamerunner). I really don’t remember that game very well at all.

Yeah, that was my first GM work for this community <3

 

[Baba Yaga]

We're the old guard I suppose.

I was sus when you said that "based on Arsonist dousing me and Cat, they must be old guard".

Yeah, I thought Fanto was Kyan. Funnily enough Kyan's first game was ... Love Boat! More than 5 years ago!

Oh, hey Gorlak! Been a while, you were in my first game

Yeah, I would've liked to see more of you here.

I did not forget a second time! I was actually going to answer ATP with “my former Love Boat teammate”, but figured i’d let you answer.

Until the most recent game we were in together, I thought Bear was my partner in Love Boat (who was actually just the gamerunner). I really don’t remember that game very well at all.

No hard feelings :), I remember a bit... we managed to lynch SplinterxCabot who were town. Or Operation Hydrocannon.

Yeah, that was my first GM work for this community <3

'tis was a good game!

 

[The Bear]

Skunkbeard going after Wax, you should know better lol.

 

[Fanto]

Oh right, I remember my other identity read now.

Kook is Hawthorn.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Oh right, I remember my other identity read now.

Kook is Hawthorn.

I thought this too but..

 

[Fanto]

I'm less sure on that one than i was the others, but that was what I had down.

 

[Baba Yaga]

I was expecting to post so I have time, let's make an overview of costume <-> players?

dead
Char - Geno
Cat - Fanto
Gnome - Chuggs
Snacks - Launch
Frankenstein - ATP
Ghost Bear - Zipped
Tech - LP
Hyde - Bear
Baba - Gorlak
Anthos - ?

Spoiler: living

Sans - Monkey
Wax - Sparks
Lightning - Jman
old Captain - Ambulance
new Captain - Wee

thread guesses:
Alien - HP
Kook - Hawthorn

Fanto says:
Snow Ghost - Kyan
Woodsman - Malus
Pazzo - Natiko

So missing
(Kook?)
Snow Creature
Neon Phantom
BooBeard
Stan

 

[Baba Yaga]

Let's talk numbers:
4 scum seems too low, especially with goons
5 is perfect
6 probably too high? at least with an arsonist

We know Gnome and Char, Sans is very likely, so who is hiding?
@TheChuggernaut was your frustration about inactivity real?

And most important of all: Who is the arsonist?! Were they blocked N1 or did they target ATP as well? Why did they ignite :( I would've loved one more day.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Let's talk numbers:
4 scum seems too low, especially with goons
5 is perfect
6 probably too high? at least with an arsonist

We know Gnome and Char, Sans is very likely, so who is hiding?
@TheChuggernaut was your frustration about inactivity real?

And most important of all: Who is the arsonist?! Were they blocked N1 or did they target ATP as well? Why did they ignite :( I would've loved one more day.

I would have loved more than 1 day :p

I know the answers to some of this speculation so ill stay schtum.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Let's talk numbers:
4 scum seems too low, especially with goons
5 is perfect
6 probably too high? at least with an arsonist

We know Gnome and Char, Sans is very likely, so who is hiding?
@TheChuggernaut was your frustration about inactivity real?

And most important of all: Who is the arsonist?! Were they blocked N1 or did they target ATP as well? Why did they ignite :( I would've loved one more day.

Oh nah. I actually was really happy about my scum team. That was my first scum game where that happened.

also I’m glad everyone else also fucked up that Thorny = Kook guess

 

[Baba Yaga]

If Natiko really is in the game, he's probably on Monkey's side, otherwise he would've long gone and pointed at the flimsy bullshit.

San really is out here snatching people's souls.

Yeah, there were posts that were rude. I felt she went a bit too far this game...

 

[Baba Yaga]

Gnome, Char, Sans + 2

So based on the statements in this thread, these are not scum:
Wax, Captain, Snow G, Snow C

based on who is pushed:
Kook, Woodsman

Based on play:
Stan

This would be the time to dig into these:
Boo, Neon, Lightning, Pazzo, Alien

Is Boo really scum? Was it that obvious?

 

[Baba Yaga]

The Snows are unknowns in the game, so even longer list. This is going to be hard for town. Especially if they don't find Sans today. Still no idea who the arson is.

I'll call Boo and Pazzo (no wait he just called her out, argh idk, pending on what happens) Lightning as scum. And Woodsman as Arsonist?

 

[Anthos]

Oh now were worrying about game integrity

what about day one when someone knew someone else signed up?
alright im out

 

[AllThingsPurple]

"Breaks the spirit of the costume party" says the guy who immediately broke the spirit of the costume party.

 

[Verelios]

TLDR: Sans is mafia. Sans has been hyper aggro and tossed out throwaway "so and so is definitely town" posts because she KNOWS they're town, but she doesn't want to focus there because she needs misvotes. Sans exhibits tried and true mafia tactics of setting up chain votes without using those words (and I have been scummates with her before - this isn't just some blind shit I'm pulling from my ass. I know with 100% certainty it's a tactic she uses). Sans straight up slipped in regards to Gnome. She waffled on CCG. And ultimately she had to step back from Kook because she believes that's where the arsonist is, and scum need the arsonist to help them.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Yeah, that's a really good read by Paz. He's putting in some work

 

[Fanto]

Great post from Natiko there, A+. I think if me and Gorlak were in there still it would be an easy push today with us on board too, but hopefully he can still rally the troops to get that flip.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

"why is Sans still alive if they're town"

Sans:

 

[lokiduck]

Oh now were worrying about game integrity

what about day one when someone knew someone else signed up?
alright im out

To be fair... lol the Newbie didn't realize they weren't supposed to tell others and all the other FGO peeps namely me who was like giving them links to Fate/Mafia and the mafia wiki so they could learn about roles (yes they were telling the truth on why they picked up terms and role names lol) totally spaced on telling them not to tell anyone they signed up if they ended up doing that.

So if you want to blame anyone for that nonsense, blame me for forgetting.

 

[lokiduck]

Also I 100% kind of think Ephi is Neon Phantom purely on the fact that they made a post saying they fell asleep after coming home from work when they were planning on playing mafia.

I could be wrong especially with the pronouns (I could see Ephi changing them tho to hide better) but I really feel like it might be the case. So watch me be wrong LOL.

 

[Baba Yaga]

Yes, Pazzo! You'll do it! I also buy the Kook = Arsonist theory, looks like it's spot on. So I'd be sus of new captain, but you all said the slot is town. Pazzo is clear. I think Jman is obfuscating hard right now.

Last two scum have to be between Lightning and either Neon or Boo. How wrong am I?

 

[Baba Yaga]

Damn it, I misread and chuggs never mentioned Snow Ghost in here. It's Snow Ghost isn't it, he's the last one.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Jesus Jman.. calm down.

 

[Baba Yaga]

What do you know that I don't ATP? :(

Sans is set. After that I'd still flip Boo. And than the great research would have to take off, but info from here makes that impossible now - in other words: I'm ready for spoilers!

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

 

[AllThingsPurple]

What do you know that I don't ATP? :(

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Spoiler: Hint About Scum #4

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Go boo go!

 

[Verelios]

On rereading sans, i don’t see the non towny behavior some of you are paranoid about.

Her towniness is inversely related to her ability to make good reads in early game ;P and her early reads were terrible.

her inaccurate semantic argument with gnome doesn’t look a planned scummate argument, it’s too stupid for that, a real argument would be about some of gnome’s worse gameplay in a different manner imo. Plus saying the words came from scum chat doesn’t really make sense because of the way discussion unfolded, there’s no phrase in the middle of the argument that could have been in another place.

Also she hasn’t had many posts of wall of text that make my eyes glaze over, which is what i associate with her scum game. Other people did that.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Bad skunk! Bad!

 

[Fanto]

We just had a game where Scum used their night kill on one of their own for Town cred

Wait, did this actually happen? Lmaoooo

 

[Chuggernaut]

Wait, did this actually happen? Lmaoooo

yes, and it worked and I’m still upset that it worked. I’ll give you one guess on which player did it

 

[Fanto]

yes, and it worked and I’m still upset that it worked. I’ll give you one guess on which player did it

Blarg?

 

[Chuggernaut]

Blarg?

Nah, it was Zeke. Not a bad guess though

 

[AllThingsPurple]

On Jman's monkey read..

That was some embarrassing amateur hour shit. Hell I was second hand embarrassed and I am spec. Its terrible gameplay that I would discourage if I was in a chat with him.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

Oh jman.

 

[Verelios]

I also feel San is probably town.

Oh, word?

Sure. Now go back and look at the last time I was mafia, in MGS. Was I fighting with people in the same way?

I'm cranky and irritable as a person, but I am far, far less open about it when I'm mafia unless I let myself get baited, because agreeable people live longer.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Wait, did this actually happen? Lmaoooo

yes it happened, and it worked, and the last three days town voted out a player saying "scum just did this, vote out this person they are scum (which they were) and each day town just voted out the player laying down the hard truths (I was one of those being the second to die in that parade of insanity)

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Zeke, the absolute madman. Gonna have to go read that game lol

 

[Chuggernaut]

yes it happened, and it worked, and the last three days town voted out a player saying "scum just did this, vote out this person they are scum (which they were) and each day town just voted out the player laying down the hard truths (I was one of those being the second to die in that parade of insanity)

Yup. Just day after day of “Hey I think it’s Zeke” and then town killing the person that suggested that

 

[A Wild Shark Appears]

Ugh that game was not my finest hour

 

[Verelios]

Yup. Just day after day of “Hey I think it’s Zeke” and then town killing the person that suggested that

The madmen went ahead with a historical gambit

 

[A Wild Shark Appears]

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

oh wow, I'd forgotten how painful it is to be dead and watch town going down the wrong path. this sucks.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Scum monkey sickens me..

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

Is every quiet player me now?

 

[Chuggernaut]

Scum are very surprised today isn’t going worse for them

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Omg, town is on the cusp of greatness.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Wow, pazzo so defensive..

 

[Verelios]

So here it is. Gnome listed Pazzo, Sans, and Kook as players they thought were town in post #980 (at least one of these must be Scum surely), both Gnome and CGG has remarkably little interaction with Pazzo throughout the entire game and Pazzo both listed Gnome as a town lean and defended CGG in various points of the game.

Now I appreciate I've been lazy as shit in this game and I'm probably totally misinterpreting what I've seen here. If I'm wrong I'm sorry.

Vote:Pazzo the Ghost Clown

Reread of snow creature:
lean scum.
voted both scum but only at the end of the day/wagon once the flip was pretty certain
being too agreeable ;)

it’s not a ‘smoking gun’ more of a paranoia read, but i’d be happy to see the flip and possibly be contradicted.

I see the Captain has a lot of thoughts.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Town is so close and yet.. so far.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

You think it's bad now, wait until f3.

 

[Anthos]

why would a mason tell the thread they were doused?

so scum doesn't have to waste a kill?

 

[Baba Yaga]

Wee is supposed to be town with those reads? You've got to be lying in here.

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Nice work from snow creature.

I think town can win this.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Nice work from snow creature.

I think town can win this.

I'm very optimistic. We have some heavy hitters on town side still in play. It's one of the most focused town teams I've seen in awhile, I think we've been doing extremely well.

 

[Chuggernaut]

wow I can't believe someone would make Paz play CoM. who would do such a thing