Scooby Doo 2: Mafia Unleashed - This time there are costumes!

[Gnome]

doesn’t read like a town read, reads like paranoia. do you have a reason to believe he’s town based on what he’s done in this game?

it’s more that I don’t think scum comes out as aggro as he’s been right out the gate

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

scum comes out the gate aggro all the time

this community doesnt expect scum to buddy up and your support for char yesterday did not have much behind it at the time, so if you are experienced scum player you might try to buddy with teammate to cover for him. would like perspective from others, have had bad experiences with this type of play and might be too close to it

 

[Gnome]

My read of Char is also very much a meta read based on who I think he is which is maybe a bad idea in a game like this, but fuck that I’ll do what I want. I can go into more detail about that, but I haven’t figured out if speculating on who players are is a smart idea or not.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I still don't get why you think I'm scum tbh, feels like empty accusations.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

we don't know if yesterday was town v town or not, so it's stupid to go after players for leading the boo beard train before after going after boo himself. which we should do imo. sorry if you really are new boo beard, but i still don't believe you.

vote: boo beard

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

no idea who gnome thinks char is or what he's talking about, but i don't buy it b/c meta reads are shaky enough without the extra level of having to guess the player. bridge too far.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Also I really don't like this narrative of already excusing a bad lynch that was visible from miles away.

Anthos was a fine d1 lynch, this isn't rocket science. Finger wagging the next day doesn't change anything.

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I'm looking back at the roster now that I'm home and realized that I've fully locked Scoobs as town in all scenarios. No one else is putting that energy into the game. So yeah, SSM is 100% town, no take backsies.

 

[San Franpsycho]

no idea who gnome thinks char is or what he's talking about, but i don't buy it b/c meta reads are shaky enough without the extra level of having to guess the player. bridge too far.

It's pretty obvious who Char is, Gnome too. Maybe two or three others. I don't see anything wrong with meta reading someone if you think you know who you are, not anything more wrong than regular meta reads anyways. People read each other right and wrong all the time. :P

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Anthos was a fine d1 lynch, this isn't rocket science. Finger wagging the next day doesn't change anything.

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I'm looking back at the roster now that I'm home and realized that I've fully locked Scoobs as town in all scenarios. No one else is putting that energy into the game. So yeah, SSM is 100% town, no take backsies.

Hm, scum can put a lot of energy in games too.

 

[Hyde Monster]

sorry for yesterday, but i won't be able to party from now on. so i should be at full capacity.

What a weird kill, wasn't Frankenstein replacing out?

agreed with scooby snack. this is a bad post - something a scum can easily post right after a night phase. "oh dear me i could never understand why scum would make a kill like this".

besides, the night kill makes sense. kill someone whose death wont bring out information but also someone who wont be targeted by potential healers or something.

People need to do more than grumble in a corner or pretend to be drunk to stand out in a costume game.

honey, being a snarky witch makes you wrinkle faster

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

If anthos was such a fine kill, what was suspicious about him? seemed like nobody could name it yesterday & as was predictable he was town.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

agreed with scooby snack. this is a bad post - something a scum can easily post right after a night phase. "oh dear me i could never understand why scum would make a kill like this".

besides, the night kill makes sense. kill someone whose death wont bring out information but also someone who wont be targeted by potential healers or something.

You are overthinking it. Also no from my perspective it doesn't make sense, Frankenstein had made quite a few interactions, I could see a doctor targeting him. Plus, if they thought he was dangerous they could've waited for him to be "replaced"(since he might've used the ability). I don't get the kill and I made the post because I'm literally super bored.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Ghost of Stealin Stan I couldn't have said anything about until he posted just now. I remembered nothing except that he was not Stan. The only Phantom I remembered was Wax Phantom because of the bad cosplay. I didn't even remember there were two other phantoms until I looked. Ghost Bear also, I have no idea.

Wax, Boo, and Alien need to do more than just one thing. Add Baba to that. Cat too. Skunkbeard is awkward, kinda scum read it.

Lightning, Scoobs, Gnome probably good. Maybe Pazzo. Maybe Snow Ghost but fluff can cover a lot and there's a lot of fluff in those posts.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

If anthos was such a fine kill, what was suspicious about him? seemed like nobody could name it yesterday & as was predictable he was town.

Why was it predictable lol? It's only predictable because we flipped him.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

Why was it predictable lol? It's only predictable because we flipped him.

it was predictable because there was literally nothing suspicious about him and the train had no reason to exist, i guess there was a whatever/23 chance of him being mafia, but odds were against it

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

I remembered nothing except that he was not Stan

what if i am stan?

 

[Hyde Monster]

what if i am stan?

what if we are all stan

 

[Hyde Monster]

what is the point of scum boo beard lying?

what is the point of town boo beard lying?

but i feel like he is lying.

we should've just voted out alien

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

it was predictable because there was literally nothing suspicious about him and the train had no reason to exist, i guess there was a whatever/23 chance of him being mafia, but odds were against it

And Boo Beard was more suspicious? I wouldn't say so personally. It's day 1, a shot in the dark, you can't really predict what someone will flip as.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

what if we are all stan

that's a lot of kidnapping for me to get through

 

[San Franpsycho]

If anthos was such a fine kill, what was suspicious about him? seemed like nobody could name it yesterday & as was predictable he was town.

Miss me with this. I literally said why I voted Anthos but 3-4-5 of you keep repeating this. I voted Anthos because he was blending and focused on himself. He wasn't the only one but he felt like a good vote out of that group.

Then you have people like this

I just did a quick reread myself to get an idea, all I really got was a couple of people accused them of potentially role fishing and I think some non-commital posts. Not a whole lot.

I don't want the Boo train, nor Alien, nor Skunkbeard on a reread. So I'll vote:Anthos

It's not that I don't see a reason, just I don't see a reason on anyone else. I've already said why I wouldn't go Boo or Alien, and Skunbeard's shtick seemed too weird for scum right now.

Who didn't have a reason and didn't give one when asked. Why didn't SC want those trains? Why were they good with jumping on Anthos with us when they didn't get the reasons? It's a mystery. There was another sus vote iirc but I'm too lazy to go look right now.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

And Boo Beard was more suspicious? I wouldn't say so personally. It's day 1, a shot in the dark, you can't really predict what someone will flip as.

yeah, because he seemed like he was lying about being new, which is at least a real reason even if you don't buy it. but nobody was even pushing the "role fishing" post that started the anthos train. you can't predict 100% but you can say that the anthos train was bad. like this: the anthos train was bad.

what is the point of scum boo beard lying?

what is the point of town boo beard lying?

but i feel like he is lying.

we should've just voted out alien

i get what you're saying about boo beard, but why go to alien if that's what you think?

 

[Hyde Monster]

yeah, because he seemed like he was lying about being new, which is at least a real reason even if you don't buy it. but nobody was even pushing the "role fishing" post that started the anthos train. you can't predict 100% but you can say that the anthos train was bad. like this: the anthos train was bad.



i get what you're saying about boo beard, but why go to alien if that's what you think?

i voted alien because he feels like a coastscum. if the anthos train was built on the coastscum point, i would have supported it too - problem was that nobody bothered to explain it to my drunk ass at the eod yesterday.

 

[San Franpsycho]

what is the point of scum boo beard lying?

what is the point of town boo beard lying?

but i feel like he is lying.

we should've just voted out alien

Just so this doesn't continue to spread, Boo lied. Boo even admitted to lying. We don't have to guess about this, Boo lied. He pretended to be not new and then new, so there's a lie. But anyone can lie. Town lies, mafia lies, neutrals lie, lying by itself is not proof of anything.

 

[Hyde Monster]

Just so this doesn't continue to spread, Boo lied. Boo even admitted to lying. We don't have to guess about this, Boo lied. He pretended to be not new and then new, so there's a lie. But anyone can lie. Town lies, mafia lies, neutrals lie, lying by itself is not proof of anything.

oh. i missed the part where they admitted it.

and yes, that does make me feel better about them.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

Miss me with this. I literally said why I voted Anthos but 3-4-5 of you keep repeating this. I voted Anthos because he was blending and focused on himself. He wasn't the only one but he felt like a good vote out of that group.

Then you have people like this


Who didn't have a reason and didn't give one when asked. Why didn't SC want those trains? Why were they good with jumping on Anthos with us when they didn't get the reasons? It's a mystery. There was another sus vote iirc but I'm too lazy to go look right now.

that's basically what i meant, posts like sc's jumping on the anthos vote. i looked at your posts from eod and you did mention blending, but that didn't seem like the main reason the train took off and tbh a lot of people were blending at that point in the game

i voted alien because he feels like a coastscum. if the anthos train was built on the coastscum point, i would have supported it too - problem was that nobody bothered to explain it to my drunk ass at the eod yesterday.

so it had nothing to do iwth his support of boo beard?

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

boo didn't admit to lying about being new, he claimed that he tried to fake being experienced earlier

 

[San Franpsycho]

boo didn't admit to lying about being new, he claimed that he tried to fake being experienced earlier

aka a lie

 

[Baba Yaga]

Just so this doesn't continue to spread, Boo lied. Boo even admitted to lying. We don't have to guess about this, Boo lied. He pretended to be not new and then new, so there's a lie. But anyone can lie. Town lies, mafia lies, neutrals lie, lying by itself is not proof of anything.

Yes and furthermore he quenched some tears, pretending to be super eager, saying he'd "do anything to not get voted out, please spare me you newbie bullying meanies"

But that's what you're ignoring, I forgot.

 

[Hyde Monster]

so it had nothing to do iwth his support of boo beard?

i remember that support feebly. at the time i didn't think much about it - just someone going to bat for a perceived newbie, i guess.

but now that we know boo lied. hmm. i'm not sure now. it could easily be scum trying to pocket someone (esp. someone possibly new) for future town allypoints.

but to answer, no my vote to alien wasn't there due to it. i voted him before that happened.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Who cares at this point if Boo is new or not. New player pass ended yesterday. We know Boo lied. Now we need to get Boo to do something else.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Yes and furthermore he quenched some tears, pretending to be super eager, saying he'd "do anything to not get voted out, please spare me you newbie bullying meanies"

But that's what you're ignoring, I forgot.

No what you're misunderstanding here is that I remember and don't care. :P

 

[Hyde Monster]

...sound like i need to read everything again and not rely on san fran to tell the td:dr

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

...sound like i need to read everything again and not rely on san fran to tell the td:dr

good idea

 

[Baba Yaga]

No what you're misunderstanding here is that I remember and don't care. :P

Thanks for finally acknowledging this.

Time to move on.

 

[San Franpsycho]

Thanks for finally acknowledging this.

Time to move on.

"Finally"

he says and then votes Skunkbeard instead lmao

Boo said two contradictory things so yes one of them is going to be a lie. That Boo lied is fact. Also fact is that I don't care, people gambit, gambits don't prove alignment, just that people make choices about how to play.

 

[BooBeard]

Thanks gang for not voting me out Day 1. I really am a new player, I can claim my ERA username if you'd like, it won't change much.

Char was on an island Day 1 and seems to continue to draw some ire today. Gnome defending them is interesting, but could be nothing. I'm continuing to keep an eye on Char.

More suspicious is Ghost Bear, who "had to miss end of day" yesterday, and barely participated otherwise, only slapping down a No Vote and then quickly changing after getting called out. I'm getting scum coasting vibes.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I think I know who Ghost Bear is, I think we all do. At the same time it could be bait, but the player who I think it is does miss day ends sometimes if I remember correctly.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

I still don't get why you think I'm scum tbh, feels like empty accusations.

i put down some reasons yesterday but i think i see who you are now. deja vu. will think on it.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

Lot of sniping on early D2 which I'll attribute to the costumes. D1 vote is whatever at this point. I guess no one really caring about the third/fourth wagons might be something.

Really don't care who's who and don't think anyone should be solving that way.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

sans gave read that franky could be vanilla. several people agree with sans in general. scum maybe thought franky was safer kill because doctor might agree with sans and not protect. still a risky kill to go for. also franky said they might replace out. not sure what it says about scum team, maybe missing details or not too concerned with overthinking a kill.

also killing from the top posters first is risky if one of the scum members is high activity. will make people wonder why high activity scum is alive later in the game. possible conclusion is that scum are in the mid to low range of activity.

too much wifom to tell whether scum wants to look at or away from boobear who franky was voting for

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

boobear seems to be telling the truth about being new, but that doesn’t inform alignment. points lightning pointed out could be newcomer mistakes, too.

alien jumping out in front of boobear reads as town. alien as scum has no reason to come forward to help boobear or to sacrifice himself. also very obvious who the player is and their background.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

These wagons suck. I’ll move to Anthos to avoid tie shenanigans if it gets close.

VOTE: Ghost Bear

pazzo moving off anthos looks good in hindsight. scum would be too worried about optics of moving off a town mislunch at the last second

Vote: Ghost Bear

missed this. what you got?

 

[Captain Skunkbeard]

missed this. what you got?

Their behavior D1 struck me as someone trying to blend and I was put off by how they were acting before EoD.

 

[Ghost Bear]

How is everyone this morning, that frankenstein role looks pretty neat.

sorry for missing day end, was swimming and could not read.

why Did y’all vote out anthos? That makes no sense.

meanwhile I still want to see a boobeard flip, and apparently boo lied about something?

vote

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

Miss me with this. I literally said why I voted Anthos but 3-4-5 of you keep repeating this. I voted Anthos because he was blending and focused on himself. He wasn't the only one but he felt like a good vote out of that group.

Then you have people like this


Who didn't have a reason and didn't give one when asked. Why didn't SC want those trains? Why were they good with jumping on Anthos with us when they didn't get the reasons? It's a mystery. There was another sus vote iirc but I'm too lazy to go look right now.

Snow Creature and Pazzo's votes both felt kind of odd to me. Pazzo was on Boobeard and stated that they would vote Anthos to break a tie, but then why jump to a vote where I'm the only other person on it? Like, there was no chance of Ghost Bear happening in the last 5 minutes. At the very least, Pazzo was pretty clear about why they were voting for people

Snow Creature's is just questionable and voting for someone that they don't want voted out but tried to paint it as the right call, which doesn't really make sense in my head. So, I'm going to land here

Vote: Snow Creature

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

How is everyone this morning, that frankenstein role looks pretty neat.

sorry for missing day end, was swimming and could not read.

why Did y’all vote out anthos? That makes no sense.

meanwhile I still want to see a boobeard flip, and apparently boo lied about something?

vote

Why do you want to see a boobeard flip if you're not sure what people are accusing boobeard of?

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

Like, looking closer at your vote for Boobeard, you just put this

But after rereading more I am not opposed to it

To that end, I think I will vote boo beard.

vote: BooBeard

What did you reread that pushed you towards BooBeard but also didn't tell you why other people were voting for him?

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

ah my b, i thought pizzo had moved from anthos. if it was from boobear, it looks less good

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

I think I just got ghosted

 

[Cat Creature]

meow


lets see, staring at the roster and vote tool quick to see who i remember...

ive got...

space kook, yaga, alien, scooby, lightning, boo, pazzo, tp, char, san, as town

agreed on snow creatures vote being weird, wouldnt mind pressuring that slot

also agree with san about anthros being a fine vote for d1 and all the discourse about boo, im not too concerned about it. i think the most interesting thing about those votes was the hesitancy to move away from either anthros or boo at eod, so i want to keep an eye on skunkbeard and ghost bear too

i also wasnt really a fan of the alien wagon yesterday, i think lightning is fine, but the other two, hyde monster and neon phantom, i dont remember as well, ill have to give them a reread when i can

hmmmmeow, ill vote for snow creature for meow i guess, that feels like a nice spicy one to start with

Vote: Snow Creature

 

[Cat Creature]

anyone else around right meow?

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Catching up, not much has changed for me seeing the flips and reading through the posts today. Boo’s newbie pass is expired which makes that an angle to re-examine. Ghost Bear and Hyde also haven’t given me great feelings so far. I do think Alien is probably town regardless of Boo’s alignment.

 

[Cat Creature]

Catching up, not much has changed for me seeing the flips and reading through the posts today. Boo’s newbie pass is expired which makes that an angle to re-examine. Ghost Bear and Hyde also haven’t given me great feelings so far. I do think Alien is probably town regardless of Boo’s alignment.

thoughts on snow creature?

 

[Cat Creature]

also who do have as town here pazzo?

 

[Cat Creature]

also who do have as town here pazzo?

who else, i should say

 

[San Franpsycho]

Read the catch up, not much there. Except to say I told you so that Cat would stop meowing. :P

 

[Cat Creature]

Read the catch up, not much there. Except to say I told you so that Cat would stop meowing. :P

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

meow

 

[San Franpsycho]

Really don't care who's who and don't think anyone should be solving that way.

It's hilariously obvious who some people are so it's unavoidable.

 

[Cat Creature]

do people know who i am?

or have i successfully cameowflaged myself?

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

thoughts on snow creature?

I’ll be honest I would need to go do ISOs of the two snow costumes to make sure I’m even correctly remembering which is which. I can do that tomorrow.

also who do have as town here pazzo?

Alien, Snack, and San would be at the top. Gnome, Lightning, and Spooky would be a level down from them. Still a lot of nulls.

 

[Cat Creature]

Alien, Snack, and San would be at the top. Gnome, Lightning, and Spooky would be a level down from them. Still a lot of nulls.

I don't remember Gnome very much, but that's probably just a me thing having issues remembering costumes still lol.

 

[Cat Creature]

oh no, i broke my lower case only rule

meow

 

[Cat Creature]

ok, ive got some time meow so i think im gunna do some isos on people i dont remember very well

ill be around to chat as well if anyone shows up

meow

 

[Cat Creature]

feeling decent about hyde i guess, they seemed to be drunk during the entire 48 hours of d1, but they did drop a read list in #554 that showed some thought being put in at least so not totally coasting. their vote on alien seemed to be a search for coasting scum mostly, they talked about it a bit earlier today in #823 and #830 and im fine with the explanation after reviewing the iso. entrance today feels fine, will continue to watch.

not much content from neon, the big stance he took was believing boo and voting alien in #600, and not thinking much of aliens defense of boo in #687. feels pretty coasty, will need to see how he approaches today, id say hes a fine suspect for me for right meow.

 

[Cat Creature]

gunna put a to-do list down on other players i want to iso, may or may not get to them all tonight, kinda feel like playing a video game now tbh

stan, gnome, ghost bear, skunk, woodsman, char gar, snow ghost

 

[Cat Creature]

you folks are gunna be getting a lot of cat posts in a row if you arent around at this time of night, ill tell you what

because sometimes a kitty gets bored and just kinda posts

but im not around all the time

and if theres someone else here, shit, ill play some mafia with ya

but i know how to play by myself too, so dont mind me

 

[Cat Creature]

woodsman is an interesting one, ill fully disclose that i think i know who it is after the iso, and im probably meta reading here, but id say im not feeling too bad about his d1. very interested to hear more of his thoughts on char when hes around since thats who he felt compelled to vote for but didnt fully explain it on d1, just said that he was "raising major red flags" in #530 and then the vote in #536. @Woodsman what were those major red flags?

 

[Snow Ghost]

ok fine

meow

 

[Cat Creature]

meow

 

[Cat Creature]

ok, i think thats it for me tonight, ill get to those others isos i listed tomorrow

cat creature, signing off

meow

 

[Snow Ghost]

huh they cleaned the Boo vote a bit, cool. ghost b is whatever, pure triple question mark, but enter META READ and I could be persuaded to turn it into a minimal town lean at best. stalin's greatest sin I think is his early game, filled with too much filler talk but that's a weapon that can be used against most of us. and he has improved since.

@Wax Phantom noisy start mate but then I feel you started to coast a bit, not cool. where you at reads wise question mark and the other typical nonsense that people write to start conversations with, you know the drill.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

huh they cleaned the Boo vote a bit, cool. ghost b is whatever, pure triple question mark, but enter META READ and I could be persuaded to turn it into a minimal town lean at best. stalin's greatest sin I think is his early game, filled with too much filler talk but that's a weapon that can be used against most of us. and he has improved since.

@Wax Phantom noisy start mate but then I feel you started to coast a bit, not cool. where you at reads wise question mark and the other typical nonsense that people write to start conversations with, you know the drill.

Yeah where's Wax? Probably thinking who to cosplay as.
Vote: Wax Phantom

 

[Gnome]

If anthos was such a fine kill, what was suspicious about him? seemed like nobody could name it yesterday & as was predictable he was town.

it was predictable because there was literally nothing suspicious about him and the train had no reason to exist, i guess there was a whatever/23 chance of him being mafia, but odds were against it

Not a fan of this at all. Feels like posturing. The case was there even if you want to pretend it wasn't. Dude did some sketchy shit, left, and spent all his time when he was back mostly just talking about himself. It's only obvious he's town if you already know what his flip most likely was.

Aside from this I agree with Kook in that those Ghost Bear posts look real bad. It's making me nervous about the Boo vote that seems to be springing up again.

 

[Snow Ghost]

I just did a quick reread myself to get an idea, all I really got was a couple of people accused them of potentially role fishing and I think some non-commital posts. Not a whole lot.

I don't want the Boo train, nor Alien, nor Skunkbeard on a reread. So I'll vote:Anthos

So is this a protective post (Boo and Snow C are scum mates), written to effectively swing the vote +2 towards Anthos? Or are the two not connected and is this just Scum C. somewhat cracking under pressure (day end, gotta look good and be doing things for the good of the town etc.) and realizing that he has done no legwork on any of the candidates? Or is it just the townie version of the 2nd idea: a lost townie who knows nothing apart from his own confusion?

Snow C's original vote on Boo is a tad bizarre if they are mates. Ain't it I think.

So is the post and the explanation that comes later:

It's not that I don't see a reason, just I don't see a reason on anyone else. I've already said why I wouldn't go Boo or Alien, and Skunbeard's shtick seemed too weird for scum right now.

posturing or real? I can't call it posturing with confidence, as I struggle with the Boo unvote being a scum move. If you have no known reads, why back off from the one read that you've expressed so far? The townie explanation feels the easiest to believe.

 

[Woodsman]

I believe Boo when he says he's a new player, so I don't think people moving their votes off him at EoD is scummy. However the protection is now expired, so it'll be interesting to see who still scum reads him today. I don't really have an opinion about the Anthos removal since he was mostly flying under my radar. Of the wagons at EoD I might have joined there too if Char wasn't happening.

woodsman is an interesting one, ill fully disclose that i think i know who it is after the iso, and im probably meta reading here, but id say im not feeling too bad about his d1. very interested to hear more of his thoughts on char when hes around since thats who he felt compelled to vote for but didnt fully explain it on d1, just said that he was "raising major red flags" in #530 and then the vote in #536. @Woodsman what were those major red flags?

It's mostly how he reacted to Wax. He tried really hard to paint it as scummy with some rather far fetched reasons. Another red flag for me was his post about planning to cosplay as someone but then not doing it because he saw he rolled Town. Why would you first plan your Scum strategy, when it is much more likely to roll Town?

 

[Baba Yaga]

Snow Ghost reiterating the case against Snow Creature seems like busywork. A whole lot of words to say I don't feel it.

I'm vibing with Cat's post. Meow.

Not feeling Pazzo's list at all, but it's 4/6 Anthos voters so no surprise here. Why is Lightning town? He hasn't done much if anything so far.

Woodsman since you're around, can you tell me what you think of the captain and the vote push eod?

Sometimes mafia is just absurd. All Skunkbeard did was fluff talk, vote Boo and never give any meaningful insight. Look at his posts D1. Nothing. It's so obvious. Scum was probably afraid to go after him. Yet Anthos was voted out for being sketchy, sure.

 

[Snow Creature]

Welp looks like I've got myself in a dumb position.

I'll do a reread and actually put some effort in because I don't really have any scum reads, only town leans from D1 (those are Snack, Kook, Baba and San) but those are just lose vibes that I feel good about. I'll see if that changes on the reread.

 

[Snow Ghost]

@Lightning Strikes On a scale of 1-10, how much do you want to off BooBeard today? Your desire to vote there was rather strong yesterday.

RE: BooBeard, I still don't like the emotional manipulation but I'd give the man the following 24h to act before reconsidering that vote.

Snow Ghost reiterating the case against Snow Creature seems like busywork. A whole lot of words to say I don't feel it.

naaah, thinking is the fun part of the game and I like to think "live" like that. don't have to make notes if my posts are the notes, ain't no way I'm going to remember every single thought I ever had otherwise.

I don't think you should feel like you do. I offer possible scum angles to the posts and actions and explain why I don't buy them. I do this contrary to the starting trend against Snow C, it'd be so much more easier for me to just abstain from the discussion or support the anti-C agenda in some manner. It is weird busywork from scum me, unless Snow G and Snow C really are Scum G and Scum C instead. Or are you arguing that I am going for the "I told you so" -play where a scummie defends a townie under heat?

 

[Woodsman]

Woodsman since you're around, can you tell me what you think of the captain and the vote push eod?

Sometimes mafia is just absurd. All Skunkbeard did was fluff talk, vote Boo and never give any meaningful insight. Look at his posts D1. Nothing. It's so obvious. Scum was probably afraid to go after him. Yet Anthos was voted out for being sketchy, sure.

Looks like the push for Skunkbeard was more a flash in a pan than a real push. Technicolor makes some good points when he votes, but the subsequent votes look more opportunistic than anything. I agree that Skunkbeard fading into the background is not really good look, but those votes look like people just looking for an out, so I'm not sure what to make of it.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

slept on it. something about gnome still not sitting right, but will come back to that later. feeling better about char. need to look at some other players.

 

[Snow Creature]

Right! I've done a full reread and have far too many notes.

Vote me if you want, I can see why you think what you think. Though some words being put in my mouth: I never said I didn't want Anthos, I just kept asking for an explanation why and didn't get one/completely missed Sans' explanation. I voted that way because I didn't like the Boo train anymore (more on that later) and felt I had to vote one of those two ways.

If I'd voted on a random vote, I would have been scum read. If I no voted, I would have been scum read. Impossible situation.

That's all I'll say in my defence. Believe me or not.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

It's hilariously obvious who some people are so it's unavoidable.

Speaking for myself only, I am making zero effort to hide who I am so I guess my style is quite obvious to others. As for figuring out others, I get flashes but haven't really thought too much about it. Heck, you could give me the player list and I probably wouldn't be able to match people to costumes.

Anyway.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

Looks like the push for Skunkbeard was more a flash in a pan than a real push. Technicolor makes some good points when he votes, but the subsequent votes look more opportunistic than anything. I agree that Skunkbeard fading into the background is not really good look, but those votes look like people just looking for an out, so I'm not sure what to make of it.

A third wagon usually takes off if the leading wagons get valuable claims or there's enough outrage over the votes. We didn't get any, plus it's Day 1 when you could probably vote for anyone and get away with it. The lack of defence is whatever but the train wasn't big enough to require one.

Maybe it could be a safe spot to park a vote but we can't know until we get more flips.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

Right! I've done a full reread and have far too many notes.

Vote me if you want, I can see why you think what you think. Though some words being put in my mouth: I never said I didn't want Anthos, I just kept asking for an explanation why and didn't get one/completely missed Sans' explanation. I voted that way because I didn't like the Boo train anymore (more on that later) and felt I had to vote one of those two ways.

If I'd voted on a random vote, I would have been scum read. If I no voted, I would have been scum read. Impossible situation.

That's all I'll say in my defence. Believe me or not.

Please don't do this. It's mild early pressure based on the only day vote we've had so far. If you've done a reread you must have suspects. List them. Don't capitulate.

 

[Snow Creature]

Please don't do this. It's mild early pressure based on the only day vote we've had so far. If you've done a reread you must have suspects. List them. Don't capitulate.

I'm getting to it, just didn't want a big post everyone would ignore.

 

[Snow Creature]

Now, some reads.

First, Boo. I know I was on them early on, but I've done a 180 on a reread. I 100% believe they're new because their posts read just like a newbie trying to fit in and play the MafiEra way. I know because I've been there myself. As for alignment, it's NAI, but I'm more inclined to look elsewhere. Also, I like this part of their post:

More suspicious is Ghost Bear, who "had to miss end of day" yesterday, and barely participated otherwise, only slapping down a No Vote and then quickly changing after getting called out. I'm getting scum coasting vibes.

Because I compeltely agree. So I'll look to see if they have a good D2.

My town leans in order of towniest to less towniest:
Snacks
Sans
Snow Ghost
Pazzo
Lightning

Alien and Gnome are also slightly on that list, but I'm watching them. Alien's defence of Boo was NAI, but something about them seems earnest.

Feeling scummy about:
Ghost Bear - see Boo's reasoning. Exactly what I had in my notes for them.
Cat - At first I thought their schtick was whatever, but I have a weird gut feeling they're just flying through. Jumped on different votes quickly in the latter half of D1.
Woodsman - A lot of their posts felt like they were just reiterating something someone else said. Set off alarms.

If you need more of an explanation why for any of them, I will. Don't want to dump literally every thought on you.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Lightning

Why?

 

[Alien]

also very obvious who the player is and their background.

I've not really tried to hide it to be fair.

 

[Snow Creature]

Why?

I just liked their posts when they eventually turned up. If it's JMan, I can see it (not that that's relevant).

If I had an ISO feature on this forum, I'd point out specifically what it was. But they have a great way of explaining their logic, which just comes across as townie to me. It's kind of effortless, if that makes sense? Like they don't have to run through some sort of scum filter and just speak their mind.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

going back to anthos vote, statistically unlikely that the vote is clean. will start there to try to lessen pool of players being looked at.

captain
sans
gnome
boobeard
snack
alien
snow creature

sans and alien are strong town reads. will remove them and myself from running.

boobeard voted for anthos for self-preservation, so it skews the motivation for voting. spent day end defending himself, did not spend as much time on trying to sully anthos. still quite null. guess it's worth asking why he thought he should fake being experienced in the first place if not to hide something else.

captain did not explain his vote, but if it is who I think it is, it's not unexpected for their town play. @Captain Skunkbeard - what were you thinking when you voted for anthos?

what ill say in gnome's defense, player i think gnome is would not have gone for franky on night kill and not as weather vaney as I am used to seeing them. not done much to hide identity, either. not concerned with meta reads, but could also be a flex. otherwise reasonable play from him so far. not likeliest to be scum in this pool.

snow creature more interesting player here. moved from boobear to anthos towards eod. belabors vote towards day end, first reasoning that boo is good a vote as any, then buying boo's story and moving to anthos without much reasoning. it's very messy. scum make mistakes too, but feels too publicly wishy washy. likeliest to be scum, but also likeliest to be nervous town.

if voting within this group, comes down to boo or snow. parking vote for now.

vote: boobeard

will reassess based on responses.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Snow Ghost reiterating the case against Snow Creature seems like busywork. A whole lot of words to say I don't feel it.

I'm vibing with Cat's post. Meow.

Not feeling Pazzo's list at all, but it's 4/6 Anthos voters so no surprise here. Why is Lightning town? He hasn't done much if anything so far.

Woodsman since you're around, can you tell me what you think of the captain and the vote push eod?

Sometimes mafia is just absurd. All Skunkbeard did was fluff talk, vote Boo and never give any meaningful insight. Look at his posts D1. Nothing. It's so obvious. Scum was probably afraid to go after him. Yet Anthos was voted out for being sketchy, sure.

Lightning's interest, and almost immediate earnestness in laying out an argument, felt both natural and very in-line with said player's meta. In a D1 that for me can mostly be described as struggling to get a memorable feel for many players, he made a good impression with relative ease comparatively.

 

[Snow Creature]

Also want to say in favour of Char, they were the first one to try to get people to talk serious, put down some reads and actual effort.

That seems town to me, scum would want to hide in the shitposting for longer.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I just liked their posts when they eventually turned up. If it's JMan, I can see it (not that that's relevant).

If I had an ISO feature on this forum, I'd point out specifically what it was. But they have a great way of explaining their logic, which just comes across as townie to me. It's kind of effortless, if that makes sense? Like they don't have to run through some sort of scum filter and just speak their mind.

Ok, let's say it's a gut read then. That's fine.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

Snow Ghost
Pazzo

tell me about these two reads

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

no idea how everybody's so sure who everybody is, imo you'll be suprised when reveals happen. i'm not trying to hide who i am, but whoever mentioned that there might be a role guessing true identities is right, let's not all take off our masks on d2 or it's not a costume party.

i still think flipping boo beard is the way to go & i still think he's likely lying about being new, but if he is new i think he's town-- scummies would just take the newbie cred, wouldn't try to seem more experienced.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

If I had an ISO feature on this forum
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you can iso by clicking on people's names? unless you get mixed up with postings in another thread you're following...

Also want to say in favour of Char, they were the first one to try to get people to talk serious, put down some reads and actual effort.

That seems town to me, scum would want to hide in the shitposting for longer.

not sure what i think of char, but this is a bad read. "why would mafia want town cred?"

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

messed up my quotes but you get the idea

 

[San Franpsycho]

lmao has Boo even posted today?

 

[Ghost Bear]

I wanted to vote boobeard, because I didn’t like the Woe is me I’m new don’t do this to me. It was really weird and get out of place