Scooby Doo 2: Mafia Unleashed - This time there are costumes!

[Neon Phantom]

If you are who I think you are. I can't blame anyone for voting you...

Hi.

First off as things stand I feel really good about these three: Pazzo, San and Scooby Snack. Past experience tells me the players I feel particularly good about can be the most dangerous though.

Most suspicious of Snow Ghost, Wax, Woodsman and Skunkbeard.

Elaborate please.

 

[San Franpsycho]

I bet a lot of you are making pronoun assumptions but I told Ael to match them to my costume lol

 

[Hyde Monster]

I can see a Ghost Bear vote today, but a bit more insight would be great. Four posts so far.

@Ghost Bear did you get around to read through today? You input would be appreciated. Is Boo still your main suspect?

this is an interesting post if ghost bear is scum.

 

[Hyde Monster]

Hey Char let's play a game. Let's pretend Wax is scum, who's with him?

The hard defenders from day 1 maybe or the players who totally ignore him. On a reread I'll find out.

in the alternate universe where wax was scum, this reasoning from gar is lazy. "well the people who defended gar are scum". no scum is going to hard defend a scummate doing bad cosplay on d1. bad post.

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

That definitely puts Wax off the table, so let's try this as there have been some reasonable arguments against him

Vote : Char Gar Gothakon

 

[San Franpsycho]

i tried to gently move the discussion away from wax on d1 (you can check my d1 posts to validate it). i was hoping he would become more coherent today.

Do you think he's going to be back today?

 

[Hyde Monster]

Boo is still my main suspect today, I see no reason to change my suspicions.

I also see someone voting me because I feel “checked out”. Which is weird but I think it was more a prod vote than an actual scum vote.

i know I haven’t been as helpful today as I could be, I finished my reread up to your post I am responding to, but apparently I need to go back and see for some more direct questions.

this post from ghost bear ignores all the other reasoning (like the bad voting behaviour on d1) and just answers to one argument.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

How do we know both are town?

 

[Alien]

People using false pronouns. Welp.

 

[Hyde Monster]

Do you think he's going to be back today?

he hasn't posted in mason chat in 23 hours, so i doubt it

 

[Alien]

Hi.

 

[Neon Phantom]

@Lightning Strikes
Hope you're doing okay after the vaccine.

Sell me on your Snow Ghost push.
Are you only voting for him because he got hung up on all the lying or do you think there's something else there?

 

[Snow Ghost]

Masons? Real masons? Nice. Wouldn't test the claim today. Likely that Wax's AFK streak continues so the confirmation has to wait until tomorrow but hey, what does it even realistically change? The answer is yes no matter what, unless there are bastard elements in the game. The only matter to figure out is if this is a combined lie or not.

Char would be my preferred secondary now.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

vote: cgg

 

[San Franpsycho]

this post from ghost bear ignores all the other reasoning (like the bad voting behaviour on d1) and just answers to one argument.

Ghost Bear is still my top choice tbh, bad reasoning all over and ghosting

 

[BooBeard]

he hasn't posted in mason chat in 23 hours, so i doubt it

Is your mason chat only open during the day or does it work at night as well?

 

[Hyde Monster]

How do we know both are town?

well my role pm says that wax is town, and i assume wax' pm says i am. but that won't convince you, that much i can guess.

only way to know 100% is when me and wax are both dead.

 

[Neon Phantom]

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Why am I a top suspect again? People who were like "yeah ghost bear" or others suddenly place me at the top? Ok I was wrong on my assumption it was scum doing cosplay, whatever, and that's if mason claim is true.

 

[Hyde Monster]

Is your mason chat only open during the day or does it work at night as well?

works days and nights. it's a very vanilla mason chat, no bells, whiskers or bdsm kink dungeons

 

[San Franpsycho]

People using false pronouns. Welp.

In every costume game, but all pronouns are fine with me.

 

[San Franpsycho]

well my role pm says that wax is town, and i assume wax' pm says i am. but that won't convince you, that much i can guess.

only way to know 100% is when me and wax are both dead.

tbh if Wax doesn't show up he'll get voted out or replaced eventually so it's whatever.

 

[BooBeard]

works days and nights. it's a very vanilla mason chat, no bells, whiskers or bdsm kink dungeons

Alright thanks for the response. No sex swing then.

 

[Neon Phantom]

works days and nights. it's a very vanilla mason chat, no bells, whiskers or bdsm kink dungeons

How about whistles?

 

[Neon Phantom]

Vote: Ghost Bear

 

[Hyde Monster]

i don't love ghost bear, char gar or alien at the moment.

ghost bear's voting behaviour and "i don't care meh" attitude reeks of scum coasting at this time.

char gar has had multiple posts i'm not fan of, including that one i quoted above. tunneling on wax is nai though - town can easily tunnel.

alien for being coast on d1 + that potential pocket attempt on boo. today has been kinda nothingcoaster again.

baby yaga raises eyebrows.

 

[Hyde Monster]

i want to vote ghost bear but i don't want to accidentally turbo

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

i want to vote ghost bear but i don't want to accidentally turbo

Turbo's at 11, we aren't in danger of that I don't think

 

[San Franpsycho]

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this is good

 

[Hyde Monster]

san fran is null - if they are who i think they are, this gameplay is completely nai from them - they do it in all alignments.

 

[Hyde Monster]

ok

Vote: Ghost Bear

 

[Hyde Monster]

Alright thanks for the response. No sex swing then.

Spoiler

god i wish.

 

[Cat Creature]

that should be ghost bear at 8 and char gar at 5 now i think

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Those voting me out of nowhere answer my question you cowards, scooby snack I went from null to top scum for being wrong?

 

[Hyde Monster]

gar tunneling on wax makes me feel bit better about them.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

you're not top scum, but i like having more than one train

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

you're not top scum, but i like having more than one train

Yeah ok.

 

[Hyde Monster]

why so aggro

 

[Snow Creature]

Err, I mean I would argue almost everyone in the game has established more connections than Ghost Bear who you're voting (though I do think he's been scummy so not really disapproving the vote, more this inquiry from you).

Well... Can't argue with that lol. Fair enough.

Have I missed when people pointed out what Char did to get votes? Any specific evidence?

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

why so aggro

Because I get 3 votes out of nowhere from people who didn't think I was that scummy. Kook, scooby snack etc. It's a bullcrap push.

 

[Hyde Monster]

Because I get 3 votes out of nowhere from people who didn't think I was that scummy. Kook, scooby snack etc. It's a bullcrap push.

do you think it's because they want to save scummate ghost bear or what?

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

Oh I think I may know who San Fran is. Not that it means much.

Mason claim is believable. Wax doing the bare minimum and then ghosting is annoying but not worth voting for. Char is a viable alternative assuming he doesn't go elsewhere.

 

[Cat Creature]

Those voting me out of nowhere answer my question you cowards, scooby snack I went from null to top scum for being wrong?

you're not top scum, but i like having more than one train

what scoob said. you had a couple votes on you, i added another, it became a viable wagon, people are now choosing whether or not to vote for you, we get their reactions to your wagon, we get your indignation at being a wagon, its all just more content to add to the pile for today. you arent really at the top of most peoples town lists, so you became an interesting question mark, and voting for you gives us things to consider

 

[Lightning Strikes]

Because I get 3 votes out of nowhere from people who didn't think I was that scummy. Kook, scooby snack etc. It's a bullcrap push.

Vote:Char Gar Gothakon

 

[Alien]

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I'd rather not start making guesses at who people are.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

this post is off. could be innocent enough, but rings bells.

Can you answer my question though?

 

[Hyde Monster]

would scum gar react with that much aggro. im not convinced.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

Unvote

 

[Hyde Monster]

Can you answer my question though?

sorry, i've missed it. what was the q

 

[San Franpsycho]

I think these are all good wagons.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

do you think it's because they want to save scummate ghost bear or what?

Idk but it's sus, but I have to vote Ghost Bear out of self preservation.
Vote: Ghost Bear

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

I'm not convinced on Ghost Bear btw, man this sucks fuck this game. I'll claim in the final 5 minutes.

 

[Snow Ghost]

Coming back to that Stan read (where did that train go?), I'm leaning more towards town. Ain't a easy call though, I've been spinning around with this for a bit (to bus or to defend aaaah). He is rather all over the place and doing things that I'd see as unforced errors as scum. Skunk vote, aggro moves against Boo and then bending over soon after, the various semantics things. Not like scum are perfect though, not arguing that, it's more that many of Stan's "errors" come from Stan himself - he does not seem to inhibit himself and what he posts. It'd be a somewhat dangerous and a forward-thinking scum play to do that.

Those voting me out of nowhere answer my question you cowards, scooby snack I went from null to top scum for being wrong?

Not voting for you but suspecting you. The tunnel is the main thing I don't like. You picked a play on D1 and stuck by it and would've stuck by it until Wax is dead or confirmed. That move allowed you to coast and when people tried to get you to do something else, you refused. Add a meta read and oh boy are the bad bells ringing. I try to not let the meta influence my views too much though, I could be wrong about that after all.

 

[Wax Phantom]

I can confirm mason

 

[Hyde Monster]

I'm not convinced on Ghost Bear btw, man this sucks fuck this game. I'll claim in the final 5 minutes.

why last 5 minutes and then leave no room to react and re-formulate our thoughts.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

@Lightning Strikes
Hope you're doing okay after the vaccine.

Sell me on your Snow Ghost push.
Are you only voting for him because he got hung up on all the lying or do you think there's something else there?

Nasty Fever last night but I am fine now.

That plus the way he posted Day 1 was sus to me. They have been posting better things lately though.

 

[San Franpsycho]

I'm not convinced on Ghost Bear btw, man this sucks fuck this game. I'll claim in the final 5 minutes.

You're the new turmoil lol

 

[Neon Phantom]

I'd rather not start making guesses at who people are.

Not that half of the post. The other half of the post. I don't care who you think is under the masks. Talk to me about your reads.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

I'm not convinced on Ghost Bear btw, man this sucks fuck this game. I'll claim in the final 5 minutes.

Claim right now or my vote is not coming off you no matter what you say.

 

[Hyde Monster]

Claim right now or my vote is not coming off you no matter what you say.

while i don't support claiming 5 minutes into eod, this post is also bad. it's 9 v 6 right now to ghost bear. this feels like fishing.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

How do we know both are town?

Based on Hyde's info there's no chance of mixed alignment imo. It could be an outright lie to save Wax, but that feels like some shit you worry about later on if neither have died - not right now.

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lmao

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Char vote here feels a little too close to deja vu for me, and I know how that ended the last time if I'm right on who CCG is.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

why last 5 minutes and then leave no room to react and re-formulate our thoughts.

Because idgaf. I'm Geno btw, if I get lynched for this I hope town loses, you guys trash up every single fucking game, town wins by a hair or get pummeled, f it.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

while i don't support claiming 5 minutes into eod, this post is also bad. it's 9 v 6 right now to ghost bear. this feels like fishing.

That's because it is Fishing

 

[Hyde Monster]

That's because it is Fishing

what do you gain as town from fishing gar's role

 

[Hyde Monster]

Because idgaf. I'm Geno btw, if I get lynched for this I hope town loses, you guys trash up every single fucking game, town wins by a hair or get pummeled, f it.

this part was obvious at least

 

[Gnome]

Unvote

 

[Lightning Strikes]

what do you gain as town from fishing gar's role

If he's going to claim anyway he should claim right now not right before end of day when there's no time to think and will lead to panic unvote.

If he does not want to ever claim then fine but if he's claiming anyway now is the perfect time.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

If he's going to claim anyway he should claim right now not right before end of day when there's no time to think and will lead to panic unvote.

If he does not want to ever claim then fine but if he's claiming anyway now is the perfect time.

I don't wanna claim if I can avoid it.

 

[Gnome]

Yeah, Char is clearly Geno. That’s why I was trying to not read too much into him being all tunneling and aggro, because that did not lead me to the correct choice last time. Explains the weirdness about scum role speculation too because I know he could body snatch accounts last costume game.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

I don't wanna claim if I can avoid it.

Fair enough.

 

[Technicolor Phantom]

So...anyone want to vote Skunk?

 

[Hyde Monster]

ghost bear being completely awol gives me some pause. but it's not impossible for scum to do.

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

Because idgaf. I'm Geno btw, if I get lynched for this I hope town loses, you guys trash up every single fucking game, town wins by a hair or get pummeled, f it.

This feels almost overly defensive when Ghost Bear is 3 votes ahead of you and only 2 away from being hammered

 

[Hyde Monster]

This feels almost overly defensive when Ghost Bear is 3 votes ahead of you and only 2 away from being hammered

meh, town geno always self-detonates when getting any heat. feels genuine.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

This feels almost overly defensive when Ghost Bear is 3 votes ahead of you and only 2 away from being hammered

Listen, I'm on phone and can't see votes, idk how many Ghost Bear has, I lost track at this point.

 

[Snow Creature]

ghost bear being completely awol gives me some pause. but it's not impossible for scum to do.

Eh, I could see scum laying back hoping another train gains steam.

 

[Hyde Monster]

Eh, I could see scum laying back hoping another train gains steam.

i suppose. i mean, there was was push for wax and me, and now other trains are being set up.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

Listen, I'm on phone and can't see votes, idk how many Ghost Bear has, I lost track at this point.

Your phone cant open Google Docs?

 

[BooBeard]

Eh, I could see scum laying back hoping another train gains steam.

I'm thinking this as well. It's either that or they've given up, which is lame.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

I'm thinking this as well. It's either that or they've given up, which is lame.

Or they are just not around.

 

[San Franpsycho]

ghost bear being completely awol gives me some pause. but it's not impossible for scum to do.

idk, defending Ghost Bear would also feel suicidal if scum so who knows. Last minute wagon swaps?

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Your phone cant open Google Docs?

I don't have google apps on my phone.

 

[Hyde Monster]

idk, defending Ghost Bear would also feel suicidal if scum so who knows. Last minute wagon swaps?

if bear is scum, i'd look at baby yaga and the wagons raised against me and wax.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

I doubt scum would want to Bus Ghost bear in this spot which makes me think Ghost bear is town.

 

[Gnome]

We’re close to turbo so I’ll avoid putting a vote down, but I’m on Ghost Bear in spirit

 

[Hyde Monster]

I doubt scum would want to Bus Ghost bear in this spot which makes me think Ghost bear is town.

why not. easy town cred.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

why not. easy town cred.

I dont buy it.

 

[Cat Creature]

yeah ghost bear feels pretty inevitable at this point tbh, its been a fine flip all day

 

[Hyde Monster]

I dont buy it.

why not

 

[Lightning Strikes]

why not. easy town cred.

This game is too wide open right now for it to be a town cred play since basically everyone pushed Ghost bear for a while.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

Well see if Im wrong but I am like 95% Ghost bear is town.

 

[San Franpsycho]

If you have an absent partner who is an inevitable vote of course you bus lmao

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

This game is too wide open right now for it to be a town cred play since basically everyone pushed Ghost bear for a while.

Too wide open????? The fuck does that mean

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

just caught up. i believe the mason claim or at least don't want to test it for now. geno aka char gar has been voted off while town many times for similar grouchy behavior, so imo ghost bear is still the best wagon.

not sure of his alignment, but ii'm not worried about a lack of alternate trains. the thing with "where are scum? why aren't they defending him?" is that that reaction is the defense. scum know that quiet eods freak out town. also probably some of them are bussing if he's scum.

i know i defended gb before, but i've been persuaded by the argument that scum too can phone it in

 

[Gnome]

Hm.

Vote: Lightning Strikes

 

[Hyde Monster]

if ghost bear scum is awol from scum chat, then it would make sense to bus them now.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

also probably some of them are bussing if he's scum.

Yeah of course there are scum non the wagon I hust dont think the day progresses like this if he's scum.

 

[Pazzo the Ghost Clown]

Yeah, I've been pretty sure this day was going to end with Ghost Bear gone ever since he chimed in with that contradictory statement earlier. I doubt scum would be too eager to defend him in this spot, instead probably hoping to just push an alternate wagon. That became a lot harder with the masons claim, and thus you get a quiet EOD.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

Yeah of course there are scum non the wagon I hust dont think the day progresses like this if he's scum.

why not?

 

[Gnome]

Not a big fan of the confidence in this flip and the role fishing earlier